Lesbian Femmes & Lesbian Butch Pussy - WOMEN ONLY

[TruTexan]

ok i'm gonna be brave here and start this thread not sure where I wanna go with it other than just to do a simple discussion about lesbian femmes and do you or don't you enjoy your butch's pussy?
I know not everyone ID's on this site is okay with their female body parts so I am not trying to exclude or offend anyone from helping this discussion get started. I"ve not found anything like this on this site so here goes.
I'm a lesbian butch myself and I personally enjoy my lesbian femme partner(when I have one) when she enjoys making love to me which entails oral sex on me, etc etc, etc and possibly other things.
Without going into any detail from the bed room, lets just keep this a general discussion because what goes on in one's bedroom, I see it as sacred and private.


Are there other folks on this site like me that feel this way? Where are you? I been looking but dont' see you around or am I just passing you by?
Please feel free to discuss the topic in an open and friendly manner.
I know that there are others that ID differently and don't have sex the way I do, and that's great. I accept them all as part of my community.
I hope no one is offended. Thanks.

[Nat]

I enjoy butch cunts way more than butch pussies. :tea:

[Apocalipstic]

ok i'm gonna be brave here and start this thread not sure where I wanna go with it other than just to do a simple discussion about lesbian femmes and do you or don't you enjoy your butch's pussy?
I know not everyone ID's on this site is okay with their female body parts so I am not trying to exclude or offend anyone from helping this discussion get started. I"ve not found anything like this on this site so here goes.
I'm a lesbian butch myself and I personally enjoy my lesbian femme partner(when I have one) when she enjoys making love to me which entails oral sex on me, etc etc, etc and possibly other things.
Without going into any detail from the bed room, lets just keep this a general discussion because what goes on in one's bedroom, I see it as sacred and private.


Are there other folks on this site like me that feel this way? Where are you? I been looking but dont' see you around or am I just passing you by?
Please feel free to discuss the topic in an open and friendly manner.
I know that there are others that ID differently and don't have sex the way I do, and that's great. I accept them all as part of my community.
I hope no one is offended. Thanks.

I'm so not offended. More like confused. What you are taking about is not on the lunatic fringe as far as this website is concerned. Lol.

[girl_dee]

i like ALL the parts of my butch lover, the more She shares with me the happier i am!


:wine::sunglass:

[Dykea]

I get you and where your going....

You just wanna know if there was such as a thing as a butch clit FIESTA would would there be only one lone femme w/bottle a rocket and confetti??

We are here.

I'm holding the pinata w/out a blindfold tho btw.


:pinata:

[Apocalipstic]

I guess I never realized that the impression is that we are rare...kind of like unicorns. Heh.

[Dykea]

I enjoy butch cunts way more than butch pussies. :tea:



I'm dying LOLG!!!

[girl_dee]

I guess I never realized that the impression is that we are rare...kind of like unicorns. Heh.

*i * have seen over the years where it has been implied that being femme/butch stone makes one *more* femme/butch.

Not true.

i think many are just private about what goes on during sexytime.........

[Breathless]

I agree with dee..

Sometimes I think we.. generally... spend too much time being what is polite and lady like and yes, proper that we.. again generally hide the sexual side of ourselves.. too much. To protect the privacy of the bedroom, or kitchen floor, or :)

[girl_dee]

I agree with dee..

Sometimes I think we.. generally... spend too much time being what is polite and lady like and yes, proper that we.. again generally hide the sexual side of ourselves.. too much. To protect the privacy of the bedroom, or kitchen floor, or :)

Or .......:blush:

[Apocalipstic]

I get that, though with me it's not for lady like reasons. :sunglass:

I just though it was a given that when people find each other hot there are plenty of ways to have fun that do not trounce on each other's boundaries.

[Lady Pamela]

I find this thread refreshing actually.
In my experience, I have found many butches do not enjoy this as part of the intamcy they are comfortable with.
I find it an honor if I am with a butch who will allow me to express love/lust/energy etc. this way.
It is also very erotic and exilerating to me to be able to explore my partner and see how excited I can get them . When I am not restricted in this area.

I can only speak for myself but I love to explore all areas of pleasure when it comes to pleasing a partner. If they allow that is.

But I have also realized that fewer butches seem to explore this option.
And again, in my own experience..It is usually the old school butches.

This does not apply to everyone I know.
I am one who usually does not speak out on intimate topics. But this one has crossedmy mind as well here and there.

Abother piece of thought;
For butches who have had issues allowing such because of masculine reasons..I have found that if this is done is such a way ..as to use it as an extension on a masculine level, then they also can enjoy it when normally it wouldn't be permitted.

I hope I wrote that correct...ha

[Daktari]

*snip*

Abother piece of thought;
For butches who have had issues allowing such because of masculine reasons..I have found that if this is done is such a way ..as to use it as an extension on a masculine level, then they also can enjoy it when normally it wouldn't be permitted.

I hope I wrote that correct...ha


Yup you got it.

Speaking a little more plainly, one could say, treat your butch's clit like a cock and Bob's yer uncle! Or rather Bob is yer very happy Butchy! :cheesy:

[lusciouskiwi]

I've only been with one male id-ed butch but we only had sex a few times and it was so long ago that I can't really say how different it was from my other butch partners/lovers.

I must say I miss the smell and taste of a lover's cunt.

[Licious]

I am still laughing over the idea that we are rare, like unicorns.

I don't think we are that rare. Are we? :eyebat:

[TruTexan]

Thank you all for your responses.
I, personally, have found it difficult to find a femme willing to participate in this type of pleasuring of me sexually. I don't know how rare it is, I just know that those particular women just weren't interested. Needless to say, I stopped seeing them. So, me, I sorta feel like I'm a dying breed of butch, lmao. I've been out a long long time and it's taken much tenderness and love from good women to help me come out of my shell over the years and actually enjoy this part of myself. After a long hard look back, I no longer want to give up this part of my sexual likings. It's ok for others to do what they do, but I don't want to ever partner up again with a femme that isn't into butch pussy. Call me stingy, a pervert, whatever, but I Like what I like. LOL
I am enjoying everyone's responses and thank you for keeping the thread going, I was quite afraid to talk about this in an open forum for fear of being chastized about it. I thought that by now someone else would have brought this up in a discussion, but I"m glad I did now. It's all good. No longer afraidy cat. lol:blush:

[ArkansasPiscesGrrl]

I am a greedy girl Very very greedy. I am addicted to more.

That being said, along with the fact that I came out very late in life, I love the fact that I am a lesbian. To ME, that means being able to love, and have sexual fun, with a woman. I want to make love to their face, their lips, their necks, their breasts, their belly, their pussy, their thighs, their ankles, their toes. Every square inch of them, I want, I demand, I enjoy.

I also am a Femme who has been deeply attracted to Butch women for most of my life. I love my wife's masculine energy, that part of her that makes her the butch she has always been inside. I am super turned on by the fact that my wife has a butch cock that she wears always. I love that when we are together I can reach over and feel her hardness. I love to lean down and take that cock into my mouth and make love to her like that. The fact that I can reach under that cock and feel her clit and sink my fingers into her pussy, with that glorious cock in my mouth, is a HUGE turn on to me. Or if, after a blow job or hand job (or both!), I move that harness up and climb between her legs to lick that clit and pussy, or even fuck her myself, it is all part of our dance. It is all on the table, you know? I get the best of both worlds, IMO.

Yep, I am a greedy girl Whether I am like a unicorn as well, don't know and don't care. It works for her and I.

But then again, she is addicted to more too, I think. the fact that I am a kinky-assed old lady helps a lot too!! HA!!

APG

[thedivahrrrself]

Considering that the clit is sort of a vestigial cock, a lot of butches look at that as their cock or small cock (see Butch Cock thread for reference, and for general fun reading) So, I don't think it's too rare to find a femme willing to suck either or both of your cocks :)

I've never heard a butch call it a pussy. But whatever you want to call it, make sure it gets all the love it deserves.

<~Former "stone" femme

However, I don't consider myself a lesbian (I'm queer), because I date those outside the traditional gender dichotomy, but that's semantics really. Everyone kind of has their own definitions around these words.

[bright_arrow]

All I'mma say is bring it! :cherry:

[Wrang1er]

Yup you got it.

Speaking a little more plainly, one could say, treat your butch's clit like a cock and Bob's yer uncle! Or rather Bob is yer very happy Butchy! :cheesy:

I don't know about the Uncle part but you are spot on the other "bits". ;)

[TruTexan]

Ahhh yep, suck on mine and I"m all yours...melt in your mouth and all smiles ! :)

[tara_kerrie]

I have been with lesbians who did go down and enjoy doing and ohhhhh boy did it drive me wild.
My most recent gf was "scared of the pussy" (her own words) and boy did i miss that.
I dont know if I could be with someone who was this way again (although since I am starting transition this may change)

[TruTexan]

For me, personally, I like to orgasm many diff. ways, but I have to say, when a femme goes down on me......ahhh feels like a whole other kinda orgasm all together. I like it , I love it, I want some more of it.......isnt' that a song or something? :D

[bright_arrow]

For me, personally, I like to orgasm many diff. ways, but I have to say, when a femme goes down on me......ahhh feels like a whole other kinda orgasm all together. I like it , I love it, I want some more of it.......isnt' that a song or something? :D

I tried so hard, I can't get enough of it - that's how I believe it continues ;)

[Dykea]

I want to invite every single one of you over for margaritas and a swing at the rainbow unicorn pinata!!

:pinata:

[bright_arrow]

I want to invite every single one of you over for margaritas and a swing at the rainbow unicorn pinata!!

:pinata:

Sounds like a plan! Are clothes optional?

[Nat]

I've known quite a few butches who've professed they weren't real into giving a girl head - this isn't a one-way gender deal. And some of us femmes enjoy the femme cock experience too...

[TruTexan]

I've known quite a few butches who've professed they weren't real into giving a girl head - this isn't a one-way gender deal. And some of us femmes enjoy the femme cock experience too...

Word...........:)

I ain't skeered.........lol I'll give a femme head all da time!! just sayin. :)

[Words]

I've known quite a few butches who've professed they weren't real into giving a girl head - this isn't a one-way gender deal. And some of us femmes enjoy the femme cock experience too...

Not sure if this is what you meant or not - it probably isn't - but when it comes to oral, I definitely relate to my clit as a cock (albeit a tiny one). I used to fight it, but hey, life is way too short for self censorship, especially when it comes to sex.

Words

[TruTexan]

Call your own body parts whatever you wish and whatever makes you feel comfy in your own skin. There are no rules for calling it what you wish to.
I'm just glad people are coming in to talk about it. Infact, I"m ecstatic !!
YAY !!!!!
I think I broke the silence barrier or a taboo or something *EG* in starting this forum thread.

[Apocalipstic]

Not sure if this is what you meant or not - it probably isn't - but when it comes to oral, I definitely relate to my clit as a cock (albeit a tiny one). I used to fight it, but hey, life is way too short for self censorship, especially when it comes to sex.

Words

Yeah, me too! Totally!

Call your own body parts whatever you wish and whatever makes you feel comfy in your own skin. There are no rules for calling it what you wish to.
I'm just glad people are coming in to talk about it. Infact, I"m ecstatic !!
YAY !!!!!
I think I broke the silence barrier or a taboo or something *EG* in starting this forum thread.

There is actually a Femme Cock thread. One of my favs.

[Apocalipstic]

I've known quite a few butches who've professed they weren't real into giving a girl head - this isn't a one-way gender deal. And some of us femmes enjoy the femme cock experience too...

Yes on both counts!

As long as everyone involved is comfortable, I'm so not into pushing anyone else's boundaries because I don't like mine pushed.

[Dykea]

I don't think there should be any HUGE expectations on whether a butchy gives head or even straps.

OR the reverse....

That a femme doesn't want to give head or strap.

The ENTIRE POINT of lesbians is that two women are getting off and enjoying themselves!!! It's two women who figure out what works for THEM!! Hetero "rules" are for the heteros and so sad to bad... that ain't me.

Now having said ALL that and refocus on the good stuff...
The inside of a butchy thigh makes me believe in whatever gawd is on the mantel.

[*Anya*]

Thank you all for your responses.
I, personally, have found it difficult to find a femme willing to participate in this type of pleasuring of me sexually. I don't know how rare it is, I just know that those particular women just weren't interested. Needless to say, I stopped seeing them. So, me, I sorta feel like I'm a dying breed of butch, lmao. I've been out a long long time and it's taken much tenderness and love from good women to help me come out of my shell over the years and actually enjoy this part of myself. After a long hard look back, I no longer want to give up this part of my sexual likings. It's ok for others to do what they do, but I don't want to ever partner up again with a femme that isn't into butch pussy. Call me stingy, a pervert, whatever, but I Like what I like. LOL
I am enjoying everyone's responses and thank you for keeping the thread going, I was quite afraid to talk about this in an open forum for fear of being chastized about it. I thought that by now someone else would have brought this up in a discussion, but I"m glad I did now. It's all good. No longer afraidy cat. lol:blush:

*curtsies*

Not rare at all here.

Into it?

Yes, lots. :blush:

[imperfect_cupcake]

Oh it's been chatted about before Texan. but the threads are probably burried and even though the majority of butches I meet actually *have* vaginas/cunts (I hate the word pussy, sorry, like some people hate the word cunt) along with having cocks, and are into their cunts being fucked, and their clit-cocks being sucked off, on line the word cock seems to appear more. I have been with quite a few who although don't enjoy being penetrated, they sure as hell enjoy me sucking their "flesh" cock off.

Lots of them enjoy me using a dildo, frottage, sucking, fisting and genital massage, all of which I love doing. I'm service orientated so I'm happy to give whatever it is they want.

I've been happy with certain types of stones (if I couldn't suck someone's clit-cock or flesh cock off for the rest of my life I would be devastated, that's my line). and I've been happy with TGButches who aren't stone but enjoy the inside pathway of their cocks stroked off.

If you have a root around in the past threads, you might find a few of these. Or I could be thinking of the old site, of course. But I do recall having this convo quite a few times on the forums. I think because the default setting on line is "cock" (which could mean inner cock [that ridge that swells up on the ventral/stomach side of the vagina], clit or dildo) it gets confusing.

I'm sorry you are haing trouble finding a girl who likes to be active (in the traditional meaning of that word active/passive/versatile nomers at web dating sites like gaydar girls).

It might be something you could bring up in a way during flirting rather than having to find out the hard way. It's not easy and it can scare the horses but I find it saves me a LOT of grief in the bedroom if I find out before hand if they are going to find me "too submissve" at times. cause if I have to have the "what do you want me to do"/"do what you want, I'm here for you"/"no really, what do you want me to do."/"I want you to do what *you* want to do"/"I'm serious, what would you -"

conversation one more time I'll pull my own hair out. two people orientated the same way doesn't work. even if one is a top and one is a bottom.

but yes, there are oodles of girls out there very willing to slide a bullet vibe up your ass and suck you off while fisting you into next week *coy feminine eyelash flutter*

and be girly about it.

It's just finding them. Join a local group through here? try OKCupid? there are some great sex questions asked on that site that can help orientate you to the right gals.

My profile is up there, if you want some help on setting it up take a look - lezbosushi. I'm not sure how you feel about internet dating but I'm finding it's the only way to meet my community here.

[TruTexan]

I"m a giver and receiver myself. I'm wanting to connect with others that are like myself. It kinda feels taboo to talk about and discuss openly and it seems for almost 50 yrs of living as a lesbian butch woman, that it never is talked about this way. I don't care for calling my own pussy a cock or a cunt, but to each their own. I have no issue with anyone that does. I just want to keep the discussion going in a comfortable direction for everyone that wishes to keep it going. Thanks for all your replies and reps. I appreciate them very much.
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[Bad_boi]

In most any way hy or she would like me to. I don't have any problems doing what makes them and myself happy. It's rare for a butch to be into and FTM however when it happens, its magical.

And yes, I am posting we don't need a bajillon threads all separated by ID.

[TruTexan]

In most any way hy or she would like me to. I don't have any problems doing what makes them and myself happy. It's rare for a butch to be into and FTM however when it happens, its magical.

And yes, I am posting we don't need a bajillon threads all separated by ID.

Welcome to the discussion badboi. No one is excluded here at all. I started this thread to find like minded femmes and am welcoming anyone to join in !! Thanks for your openness.

[imperfect_cupcake]

I"m a giver and receiver myself. I'm wanting to connect with others that are like myself. It kinda feels taboo to talk about and discuss openly and it seems for almost 50 yrs of living as a lesbian butch woman, that it never is talked about this way. I don't care for calling my own pussy a cock or a cunt, but to each their own. I have no issue with anyone that does. I just want to keep the discussion going in a comfortable direction for everyone that wishes to keep it going. Thanks for all your replies and reps. I appreciate them very much.
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Darlin, that's awful to hear. I know that different places have different sub cultures and that makes communication around those things very very different than other areas on the planet. I'm sorry where you've been has been that way :(

I do send you good news that it's not like that all over the world though. In many places it's perfectly normal for a butch to talk about their female genitalia (inset word of preference here) in terms of sex with friends rather openly. At least they do in my subsets of friends :)

I promise you there are lots of butches out there who talk about it too.

Unless, you know, you just started this to meet femmes... :bunchflowers:

:canadian:

:p

[TruTexan]

NO, it wasn't started just to meet femmes. Its the name in the title but it was intended to be able to connect with femmes and others to discuss the topic and make connections in that way . I welcome anyone of any ID to come talk about it here in whatever name they wanna call it. Just for me it was a connection to see what other lesbians felt about butch pussy/cunt/cock/however you choose to call it, and to talk freely with others that possibly have been where I've been. Anywho, thanks for posting.

[Nadeest]

I haven't been with many people, since I transitioned, but...... I'm certainly willing to please my lover any way that we both find mutually enjoyable. I've definitely had oral sex with a woman before my transition, and enjoyed it. I like pleasing my partners, and i doubt that that has changed.

[imperfect_cupcake]

NO, it wasn't started just to meet femmes. Its the name in the title but it was intended to be able to connect with femmes and others to discuss the topic and make connections in that way . I welcome anyone of any ID to come talk about it here in whatever name they wanna call it. Just for me it was a connection to see what other lesbians felt about butch pussy/cunt/cock/however you choose to call it, and to talk freely with others that possibly have been where I've been. Anywho, thanks for posting.

I'm teasing, Texan, I'm teasing...

[TruTexan]

It's ok, really. I was just answering your post.

[SaltyButch]

This is an interesting thread, I've often thought I am a rare breed..I am not fond of labels and yet I've embraced a few...I'm an Old School Lesbian butch who is also cock id'd. In getting to know someone, the usual questions are asked and when delving into the relationship territory you explore the likes and dislikes of each other.

I am a woman and in being so I embrace all of who I am, this is often met with surprise, because it seems that there are alot of "butches" who don't at which I myself am surprised, but respect everyone's choice. I love when a woman embraces the totality of me, my mind, my heart and my body. I'm a lesbian and I enjoy the feel of a woman, and I love how she touches me and makes me feel. We naturally all have our preferences and I am no different I certainly prefer a woman's hand caressing me.

So, as we each share the same world but travel different paths, let's not only explore to understand but accept the differences in each of us.

[TruTexan]

Excellent post Salty. Thanks.
I enjoy a woman caressing and making love to me too. It's an awesome feeling being loved in return in this way for me. I know there are differences among butches and how they feel about things like this topic. I respect them and honor them for who they are and hope that in return they will do the same with me and others like me.

[TruTexan]

Having a butch pussy myself, I sure miss a femme's love making. argggggh.

[Jet]

I enjoy butch cunts way more than butch pussies. :tea:

lol............

[~ocean]

~ oy ~ I don't know what to say ~ in this thread ~ lol ~I ^ 5 all your honesty and applaud that you know who you are ~ I think the dynamics change with your partners desires, as theirs do with yours ~ just make love ~~~~~ :)

[TruTexan]

OH hell, I"m game for almost anything so long as the femme I'm with wants it too. It's fun to share moments of different intimacies that are shared ones. I enjoy sex a lot more if the femme I am with is enjoying every aspect of love making with me.

[caffeinelover]

Warning: I came out very late in life, and don't consider myself a lesbian, as I am only attracted to butches and masculine presenting female bodied or genderqueer individuals.

I am predominantly attracted to certain power and energy dynamics within the butch/femme continuum.

To me:it's really about finding someone completely hot and having this incredible electric connection than body parts and sexual acts. I find butches extremely hot, and certain power dynamics extremely hot, so giving oral sex, in that particular context, is something I enjoy doing.

I've been mostly with soft butches with a few hard butches who never i.ded as butch but were certainly qualifying.

I've never been with a Stone butch but if I were with someone who didn't like to receive oral sex I wouldn't miss the act as long as I could caress and explore their body, and give them pleasure in ways that they enjoyed.

[Kobi]

It is amusing, and not in a funny way, when a thread for lesbians femmes and lesbian butch pussy has postings from people who don't consider themselves lesbians or even female.

This behavior is insulting and demeaning to women who love other women. It is also a gross display of sexism and misogyny i.e. lesbians need input into the sex lives and preferences from people who are neither lesbian or female.

[Candelion]

"Sometimes She Lets Me" by Alison L. Smith And I always love it when they let me. :)

[tapu]

"Sometimes She Lets Me" by Alison L. Smith And I always love it when they let me. :)

Wow. I might let you. When you put it like that.

My pick-up line used to be, "Do you want to date me?" "I'll let ya."

[Rolo]

I find that the way someone gets off, or how they identify or relate to their pussy/cock and thier comfort level is totally up to them and I've never found this to be a problem. It's up to those two ppl to determine what works for them and if they're sexually compatible. It does not make me feel like youre less of a butch if you call it a pussy, if you love oral or if you even like penetration.

That being said, I'm a femme who has loved many a butch pussy in various ways that were specific to that person and I'm more than willing to please in any way that they enjoy.

[caffeinelover]

Wow!

I'm floored at the comment made.

I identified fully as a lesbian 3 years of my life. I now don't feel the label fits me,one of the reasons being the intolerance I experienced and still do in lesbian space, looking the way I do and not being perceived as femme because not having the visible marks I am supposed to wear to be flagged as such.


During the time I identified 100% as a lesbian, I had butch lovers and this is the time and experience I drew from when responding to the post.

I also put a big warning. If being a lesbian is a woman loving women, as you so defined it, then I am a lesbian at this point and time. However I am also attracted to people who are female-bodied but in between genders. At this point of my life, this is what I like and what I am attracted to. So did I interact with lesbian butch pussy? Yes. Did I identify as a femme lesbian? Yes.
Do I now identify as a femme lesbian? Yes, but not exclusively, because the attraction to trans people and a few ( gasp ) men.

I think, in the future, it would be advisable for people who think talking about a lesbian experience but not identifying as lesbian is unacceptable to say so in the title of their post.

Off to my local lesbian bar!

I

[C0LLETTE]

I wish to be clear that this post is not in direct reply to ANY preceding post in particular but rather a general unease about how difficult it is to discuss certain topics and to make a proposal as to why that happens. I doubt any of my theory is original or new to most of you.

Simply, I confess: I am confused.
Seems most folks know what they like (after they've tried it) but problems arise when they give it and themselves a name/label. Not terribly surprising when definition has become a free-for-all and folks insist on the right to make up their own.
Even when terms are largely agreed upon, we bend over backwards to avoid questioning outliers or self definitions that defy logic and/or coherency. We don't want to hurt feelings so we nod supportively at every personal definition even when it seems like babble and serves no communicative purpose except stringing buzz words together.

Am I completely off base? Sometimes it seems to me that there's a cottage industry out there creating ever more convoluted definitions of stuff we already know.

I've been a "lesbian", having sex with women for over 50 years now. For me, it's never been more complicated than that. As for whether they were butch or femme? Lotta times it was too dark to tell.

[C0LLETTE]

It's just occurred to me that I may have completely misunderstood this entire thread. If that's the case, I figure someone will set me straight and till then I ask indulgence.:o

[TruTexan]

OK first of all this thread was created by me,the OP, for the intent and purpose for lesbian butches and lesbian femmes to discuss lesbian butch pussy without interjection from folks about anything but what the title states. So far we've had several comments made that appear to me to be misogynistic and sexist by folks that don't even ID as lesbian. I"ve not been here much lately and I apologize for that. I have been busy dealing with life in r/t.
Personally I don't have a cock, to me a cock is something I use on my partner that attaches to my body in a strap or is handheld, I don't see it as an extension of myself.I have a pussy and a clit which is NOT a cock to me. Therefore this thread is about Lesbian butch pussy as the title states.

I want this to be a frank and open discussion from folks that ID as lesbian here, about butch pussy, not butch cock or anything else. Please don't start taking this thread into a place that it is NOT intended to go.
Lets keep this thread on track. I think I have said enough.

[TruTexan]

bumping the thread to get read and keep it going for lesbian IDs to interact in.

[Kenna]

NO, it wasn't started just to meet femmes. Its the name in the title but it was intended to be able to connect with femmes and others to discuss the topic and make connections in that way . I welcome anyone of any ID to come talk about it here in whatever name they wanna call it. Just for me it was a connection to see what other lesbians felt about butch pussy/cunt/cock/however you choose to call it, and to talk freely with others that possibly have been where I've been. Anywho, thanks for posting.



It is amusing, and not in a funny way, when a thread for lesbians femmes and lesbian butch pussy has postings from people who don't consider themselves lesbians or even female.

This behavior is insulting and demeaning to women who love other women. It is also a gross display of sexism and misogyny i.e. lesbians need input into the sex lives and preferences from people who are neither lesbian or female.




OK first of all this thread was created by me,the OP, for the intent and purpose for lesbian butches and lesbian femmes to discuss lesbian butch pussy without interjection from folks about anything but what the title states. So far we've had several comments made that appear to me to be misogynistic and sexist by folks that don't even ID as lesbian. I"ve not been here much lately and I apologize for that. I have been busy dealing with life in r/t.
Personally I don't have a cock, to me a cock is something I use on my partner that attaches to my body in a strap or is handheld, I don't see it as an extension of myself.I have a pussy and a clit which is NOT a cock to me. Therefore this thread is about Lesbian butch pussy as the title states.

I want this to be a frank and open discussion from folks that ID as lesbian here, about butch pussy, not butch cock or anything else. Please don't start taking this thread into a place that it is NOT intended to go.
Lets keep this thread on track. I think I have said enough.


OK..I have followed this thread with interest and intrigue since it started. However, I didn't post because I felt silenced (or isolated is better to describe how I felt kinda left out) as well as confused....

Please read my tone as questioning...not confrontational...
I identify as Femme...I am a proud woman who loves women (not attracted to ALL women, but my primary attraction is to other women)....I never have and do not Identify as Lesbian or Dyke. The reason I do not is because of the hate and stigma that I grew up with about such identities and lifestyles. If I happened to use those terms in reference to myself in the past, its because I felt the need pressed upon me by the LGBTQ Community to conform or else be made to feel less than. ...I was hated by the het world if they thought I was a lesbian, then made to feel NOT LESBIAN ENOUGH by certain long term lesbian members of our very own Community. ....It took me many years to come to terms with that and to comfortably embrace Femme and what it means to define me.

The women I have been with have identified as Soft Butch (my first g\f who cringed if you called her lesbian or dyke but LOVED her identity as Soft Butch and loved her Femmes); Gay Female (who felt negative things when identifying as butch or lesbian but stated she was only comfortable being rreferred to as a Gay Female); a Woman that loves Women (who hated the term lesbian when used to address herself or her lover); and
an Androgynous Woman (who also didn't claim lesbian)...

I have also dated a Transgender Butch. Neither one of the above liked to refer to their genitals as pussy or cunts because it made them feel gross and objectified (I am speaking for those I have been intimate with, no one else). I as a Femme am very attracted to certain women and am not stone, also cringe at the word pussy because of the disgusting and objectifying way that bio males have directly referred to Me. Or calling me or my lover of choice "a pussy". ....leaves me with a feeling that I have to duck my head every time I hear that word.

I also want to sometimes yell....HEY, I am a lesbian by YOUR definition, but I just don't claim it for personal reasons. Why am I made to feel like I am not lesbian enough?

The women I have been with are also lesbians (several butch, others "tomboy" or androgynous) by outside definitions. Why are they made to cringe if they either are referred to as such or if they don't claim it?

TRUST ME!! If given the "yes, I like it, I love it, I want more of it!"...I would and will dive right in and lavish them with so much attention they will break the headboard grabbing it as they buck and kick, begging for release.

If I happen to be with a woman or transgender person that ID's as Stone, I would never gross their boundaries nor ask to.

How is it I offend to participate in a discussion about an activity or subject I enjoy simply because I have never identified as Lesbian? And how is it that I don't qualify to pparticipate because NONE of the women lovers I have had identify as lesbian?

Again I have that tight chested feeling that I am not lesbian enough.

And I don't understand Kobi's post referencing individuals being offensive because they don't consider themselves as lesbian or even female. (That's a statement not a question) The Transgender Butch I once dated said they acknowledged their history as a woman butch that loved other women and didn't feel right erasing their history or feelings simply because they currently embrace their transgender journey and identity.

Now I know why I hadn't previously posted in this thread the intimate details of how I enjoy pleasing my women....

[Kenna]

NO, it wasn't started just to meet femmes. Its the name in the title but it was intended to be able to connect with femmes and others to discuss the topic and make connections in that way . I welcome anyone of any ID to come talk about it here in whatever name they wanna call it. Just for me it was a connection to see what other lesbians felt about butch pussy/cunt/cock/however you choose to call it, and to talk freely with others that possibly have been where I've been. Anywho, thanks for posting.

bumping the thread to get read and keep it going for lesbian IDs to interact in.

TruTexan...I mean no disrespect. My previous post took me too long on my new tablet then I had to try again...in the mean time you posted the above...Now I'm really confused. This is in the Butch Zone and now appears it belongs in the Lesbian Zone.

I am a non-stone Femme that would lavish in giving oral to my Butch or "Gay Female" as I note above, but I seriously do not feel like I belong in your "lesbian circle".

[Kenna]

OK first of all this thread was created by me,the OP, for the intent and purpose for lesbian butches and lesbian femmes to discuss lesbian butch pussy without interjection from folks about anything but what the title states. So far we've had several comments made that appear to me to be misogynistic and sexist by folks that don't even ID as lesbian. I"ve not been here much lately and I apologize for that. I have been busy dealing with life in r/t.
Personally I don't have a cock, to me a cock is something I use on my partner that attaches to my body in a strap or is handheld, I don't see it as an extension of myself.I have a pussy and a clit which is NOT a cock to me. Therefore this thread is about Lesbian butch pussy as the title states.

I want this to be a frank and open discussion from folks that ID as lesbian here, about butch pussy, not butch cock or anything else. Please don't start taking this thread into a place that it is NOT intended to go.
Lets keep this thread on track. I think I have said enough.

And in reference to your statement above about people that "do not even ID as lesbian"...unbeknownst to you or others, they may have walked in their life as lesbian at one time or have a hard time claiming that term. Please don't erase them or their journey...or inadvertently make us feel invalid. Just because you don't see them as lesbian, doesn't mean their feelings or previous experience isn't valid to your subject or stories about them as a female\woman having sex with other women,

[TruTexan]

And in reference to your statement above about people that "do not even ID as lesbian"...unbeknownst to you or others, they may have walked in their life as lesbian at one time or have a hard time claiming that term. Please don't erase them or their journey...or inadvertently make us feel invalid. Just because you don't see them as lesbian, doesn't mean their feelings or previous experience isn't valid to your subject or stories about them as a female\woman having sex with other women,

Kenna I am not erasing anyone, it is the fact that lesbian butches that ID as women or female that are being erased here in this thread by male ID coming in a making fun of or misogynistic sexist statements. And why is it that when I want talk openly and freely with other lesbian butches and femmes about butch pussy that they have to come in and interject turn the thread into a butch cock thread? This is not the intent of the original statement I made for the thread. It erases me as a lesbian butch woman when they do that. I dont' have a problem with anyone except those trying to erase the women lesbian butchs in this thread and the femmes that love them and their pussy's. My whole intent and purpose is for those that ID as lesbian butch women and femmes that love us and lesbian butch pussy to be talked about openly. NOT butch cock, that is a male termnology. This is not a male thread to discuss male things in. Anything referring to males should be put into another thread of their own. Thats how i see it. And it's upsetting to those of us that are lesbian woman identified butches that we are contstantly forced to talk about male things in our own threads made for us to comment in and share stories in. I don't go into their threads and post mysogynistic sexist statements about them and try to turn their threaad into a lesbian butch woman thread talking about lesbian butch pussy in a male oriented thread talking about butch cock. Thats how I see it. period. I haven't erased anyone. I have plainly asked that the posts here remain on topic that this is a lesbian butch pussy and lesbian femmes who love us thread and nothing more than that. It's not for male interjection and mysogony and sexist comments to come in here and post. It's very upsetting to me the OP that I have become erased by those comments. period.

[TruTexan]

TruTexan...I mean no disrespect. My previous post took me too long on my new tablet then I had to try again...in the mean time you posted the above...Now I'm really confused. This is in the Butch Zone and now appears it belongs in the Lesbian Zone.

I am a non-stone Femme that would lavish in giving oral to my Butch or "Gay Female" as I note above, but I seriously do not feel like I belong in your "lesbian circle".

I placed this in in the butch zone because we are lesbian butches here. We ID as both and because we are butch and talking about butch pussy and the femmes that love us it belongs EXACTLY right here where i placed it. Period.
I am the OP and this is where I want the thread to belong because I believe it belongs here because we are talking about lesbianBUTCH PUSSY. Period.
If I had posted in the lesbian zone then someoen like you would probably disturb the flow here and say hey this doesn't belong in the lesbian zone because it's about lesbian BUTCH pussy and lesbian femmes that love us.
I hope you get this and understand it now. I wish not to discuss this matter. It's now a closed matter to me. Thank you.

[The_Lady_Snow]

You know what fucking irks me to the core? When people (general) deem "pussy" as gross, not valid, not ok to talk about... That's some woman hate and internal issues surrounding butch pusssy, vagina, cunt or pussy in general.

It irks me because when dick is being shoved down our proverbial throats via threads, posts, poems, erotica society no one says a god damn thing.


I'm glad that this pussy owning manifesto space is here, it's glorious, it's hot and it deserves to be discussed, appreciated, and lusted after, it's about time!


Isn't it odd how Femme pussy is dandy, no one ewwws that, oh wait sometimes we have when it's femme on femme, pussy is always eewwwed when convenient.

[TruTexan]

You know what fucking irks me to the core? When people (general) deem "pussy" as gross, not valid, not ok to talk about... That's some woman hate and internal issues surrounding butch pusssy, vagina, cunt or pussy in general.

It irks me because when dick is being shoved down our proverbial throats via threads, posts, poems, erotica no one says a god damn thing.


I'm glad that this pussy owning manifesto space is here, it's glorious, it's hot and it deserves to be discussed, appreciated, and lusted after, it's about time!

HUGE LOVE FOR YOU LADY SNOW.THANKS FOR BACK UP ON THIS ISSUE. I MUCH APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR OUTSTANDING COMMENT YOU HAVE MADE. IT IS ABOUT FUCKING TIME FOR THIS FRANK AND OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT LESBIAN BUTCH PUSSY AND LESBIAN FEMMES WHO LOVE US. Thank you Lady Snow ((((hugs))) and KOTC*

Justy

[Kenna]

I placed this in in the butch zone because we are lesbian butches here. We ID as both and because we are butch and talking about butch pussy and the femmes that love us it belongs EXACTLY right here where i placed it. Period.
I am the OP and this is where I want the thread to belong because I believe it belongs here because we are talking about lesbianBUTCH PUSSY. Period.
If I had posted in the lesbian zone then someoen like you would probably disturb the flow here and say hey this doesn't belong in the lesbian zone because it's about lesbian BUTCH pussy and lesbian femmes that love us.
I hope you get this and understand it now. I wish not to discuss this matter. It's now a closed matter to me. Thank you.

I meant no disrespect and kindly requested my tone be read as questioning and stated I was confused. Thank you for clarifying. My intent was never to disturb the flow. I stated I am a non-stone Femme that has loved her Butch Women.. You have clearly defined that I am not welcome in this conversation because I don't and my lovers don't identify as lesbian. Back in a little box I go...
Enjoy

[Kobi]

Kenna, you made a valid point. I did not see that the OP invited any id to weigh in on butch pussy. I concede that one.

When I see a title clearly saying lesbian femmes and lesbian butch pussy, it seems like a pretty simple thing to me. It is about women.

Just as you often feel misunderstood and invalidated as a femme, so do those of us who are lesbian butches. We are thrown in with various derivations of male even tho we proudly claim our femaleness and our female bodies. Can you imagine what it feels like to be told a butch is a butch is a butch....male, female, all the same. It sucks.

And, I too, was reluctant to post in this thread because when males invade a space meant for females (unless they want to talk about their pussies) it makes me uncomfortable. It feels very voyeuristic to me and it makes me feel violated both as a female and as a lesbian.

[Kenna]

You know what fucking irks me to the core? When people (general) deem "pussy" as gross, not valid, not ok to talk about... That's some woman hate and internal issues surrounding butch pusssy, vagina, cunt or pussy in general.

It irks me because when dick is being shoved down our proverbial throats via threads, posts, poems, erotica society no one says a god damn thing.


I'm glad that this pussy owning manifesto space is here, it's glorious, it's hot and it deserves to be discussed, appreciated, and lusted after, it's about time!


Isn't it odd how Femme pussy is dandy, no one ewwws that, oh wait sometimes we have when it's femme on femme, pussy is always eewwwed when convenient.

It also irks me to the core also (exactly how explained above). However, if the woman I am intimate with doesn't llike the term, I don't use it. I don't like the term used in reference to me because I've been called it to objectify me or my woman lovers. I can't disrespect my butch women lovers who don't want the term used for themselves. As for the "dick being shoved down..."...every time I read or hear such, it makes me want to puke...but no one wants to hear my calling them out or would even "hear me" as to why it isn't right in a Lesbian Butch thread or even a woman only thread,

I had several valid questions and stated I was confused. I wasn't looking to be made to feel even less welcome or less than.

I believe it is glorious to claim it and own it...as well as discuss with PRIDE.

[Kenna]

Kenna, you made a valid point. I did not see that the OP invited any id to weigh in on butch pussy. I concede that one.

When I see a title clearly saying lesbian femmes and lesbian butch pussy, it seems like a pretty simple thing to me. It is about women.

Just as you often feel misunderstood and invalidated as a femme, so do those of us who are lesbian butches. We are thrown in with various derivations of male even tho we proudly claim our femaleness and our female bodies. Can you imagine what it feels like to be told a butch is a butch is a butch....male, female, all the same. It sucks.

And, I too, was reluctant to post in this thread because when males invade a space meant for females (unless they want to talk about their pussies) it makes me uncomfortable. It feels very voyeuristic to me and it makes me feel violated both as a female and as a lesbian.




Thank you very much and kindly, Kobi. I can certainly respect all that has been directed and clarified to me.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nat
I enjoy butch cunts way more than butch pussies

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jet

lol............


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I believe this is the invasion, and since it didn't get reported or asked to clarify, we may want to ask for clarification or about intent...


It's the only male entity I read in here, am I wrong?

[Kenna]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nat
I enjoy butch cunts way more than butch pussies

_______________________


Quote:

Originally posted by Jet

lol............


_____________________


I believe this is the invasion, and since it didn't get reported or asked to clarify, we may want to ask for clarification or about intent...


It's the only male entity I read in here, am I wrong?

Thank you. Now that I see the example, I do see that as an invasion. However -I shouldn't mention this in public, but so I may answer you directly - I can not report such because I have the quoted individual on ignore. I wasn't being complaicent , I had a valid reason for "not seeing" the invasion.

[Rolo]

Originally I loved the idea of this topic. Now it seems very unappealing. Everyone's offended or feels unaccepted... Watching this evolve has been unattractive to say the least. I'm new so I don't really know how all this works here at BFP but I saw a topic I could relate to so I posted. I read all the posts before posting and I kind of wished I didn't. I included the word cock because I noticed some had preffered this word... I have no expirence in that yet I was trying to be respectful.

It's hard to be exclusive when you have to be inclusive

[Kenna]

Originally I loved the idea of this topic. Now it seems very unappealing. Everyone's offended or feels unaccepted... Watching this evolve has been unattractive to say the least. I'm new so I don't really know how all this works here at BFP but I saw a topic I could relate to so I posted. I read all the posts before posting and I kind of wished I didn't. I included the word cock because I noticed some had preffered this word... I have no expirence in that yet I was trying to be respectful.

It's hard to be exclusive when you have to be inclusive

I sincerely apologize if my participation has made you feel this way. My intent was asking for clarification on how I fit in as Femme and how my women lovers fit in...and to get an understanding of how my participation would/might be offensive since I don't directly identify as lesbian (neither do any of my previous women lovers.) It wasn't until an example was given that I was aware of the incident where someone who identifies as male "changed the space".

[TruTexan]

I meant no disrespect and kindly requested my tone be read as questioning and stated I was confused. Thank you for clarifying. My intent was never to disturb the flow. I stated I am a non-stone Femme that has loved her Butch Women.. You have clearly defined that I am not welcome in this conversation because I don't and my lovers don't identify as lesbian. Back in a little box I go...
Enjoy

Kenna, you make a valid point. I am with kobi in that this is a thread about women period in the truest form.. I"m sorry if I misread you, it was not my intent. I want you to feel welcome here because you are a woman, even though you don't ID as a lesbian, but you are still a woman loving a woman. I was not trying to exclude you and I did do a fair job explaining all the things in my head that I wanted to say.
I hope this helps clarify more for you. This is women's space here and only for women, not for male or men. WE need our own space and it needs to be respected and not intervened with by those that make fun of or say mysogynystic and sexist things here, it's not fun to be erased, disrespected and the thread interrupted by them.

[Kenna]

Kenna, you make a valid point. I am with kobi in that this is a thread about women period in the truest form.. I"m sorry if I misread you, it was not my intent. I want you to feel welcome here because you are a woman, even though you don't ID as a lesbian, but you are still a woman loving a woman. I was not trying to exclude you and I did do a fair job explaining all the things in my head that I wanted to say.
I hope this helps clarify more for you. This is women's space here and only for women, not for male or men. WE need our own space and it needs to be respected and not intervened with by those that make fun of or say mysogynystic and sexist things here, it's not fun to be erased, disrespected and the thread interrupted by them.

Thank you. I appreciate you and the space.

[Bad_boi]

I like it :P Sadly there are not too many butches I have met that are interested in FTM's. When I find them its a fun time. No matter what parts.

[C0LLETTE]

oyyyyy.. I don't think I can bear to read what's bound to come next. Maybe you should have read up into the thread first, Bad_boi.

[Rolo]

I sincerely apologize if my participation has made you feel this way. My intent was asking for clarification on how I fit in as Femme and how my women lovers fit in...and to get an understanding of how my participation would/might be offensive since I don't directly identify as lesbian (neither do any of my pervious women lovers.) It wasn't until an example was given that I was aware of the incident where someone who identifies as male "changed the space".

Oh it's not like that at all. I'm speaking on everything as a whole. No apology needed. You're free to speak your mind, and share your related expirence. I didn't make the thread, but I do enjoy butch pussy and wanted to add to the thread and read about other who do as well. There's not much of that going on

[Kobi]

I like it :P Sadly there are not too many butches I have met that are interested in FTM's. When I find them its a fun time. No matter what parts.



Bad Boi, we just spent 2 pages of posting to clarify this is a woman's space.

As you id as a transman, I'm presuming either you didn't read what is going on or you are asserting your male privilege to do as you please, regardless of what women say. That is sexism.

This is just freakin ridiculous.

[Kenna]

And in reference to your statement above about people that "do not even ID as lesbian"...unbeknownst to you or others, they may have walked in their life as lesbian at one time or have a hard time claiming that term. Please don't erase them or their journey...or inadvertently make us feel invalid. Just because you don't see them as lesbian, doesn't mean their feelings or previous experience isn't valid to your subject or stories about them as a female\woman having sex with other women,

I like it :P Sadly there are not too many butches I have met that are interested in FTM's. When I find them its a fun time. No matter what parts.



Bad Boi, we just spent 2 pages of posting to clarify this is a woman's space.

As you id as a transman, I'm presuming either you didn't read what is going on or you are asserting your male privilege to do as you please, regardless of what women say. That is sexism.

This is just freakin ridiculous.




Kobi, you stated something I didn't immediately see...maybe because of the point noted above that I still had in mind?
Sometimes "hard conversations" need to take place and those like myself (woman loving another woman) feel the need to ask for clarification.
(Please note in my quote that I mention female/women individuals.

[TruTexan]

I like it :P Sadly there are not too many butches I have met that are interested in FTM's. When I find them its a fun time. No matter what parts.

Bad_boi, this is a women's only space. I don't understand why you would come in here and assert your maleness priviledge either, you ID as FTM. The title of the thread should tell you it's a women's only space in itself.
I don't find it funny at all, I find it sexist and after 2 pages of this have been discussed about males coming in here and invading our space here and being disruptive. Apparently you may not have read those pages or flat out just don't give a rats butt about it and posted anyway.
WE don't go into male spaces and post there and change the flow or anything for you guys. So stop doing it here. Please don't make anymore discussion about this. We'll stick to our threads and you stick to yours??!! Thanks.

[C0LLETTE]

"butch pussy" seems pretty clear to me.
Whatever happened to that topic, anyway?

So much energy has to be devoted to defending women's spaces that whatever they wanted to do in that space just goes out the window. It's a particular pity in this case cause the topic is such a good one.

[Kobi]

"butch pussy" seems pretty clear to me.
Whatever happened to that topic, anyway?

So much energy has to be devoted to defending women's spaces that whatever they wanted to do in that space just goes out the window. It's a particular pity in this case cause the topic is such a good one.



It absolutely boggles my mind why a woman would not understand why it is important for women to defend their right to have a space free from male influence and intrusion.

This is just freakin nuts.

[Medusa]

I'd like to interject something here -

The title of the thread is pretty clear to me to say "Lesbian femmes and lesbian butch pussy". It is most certainly implied that this is women's space in the title but, in fairness, I DO see how someone of any gender could read the title and think it was a thread for all who *enjoyed* Lesbian Butch pussy. I think we can all agree that Butch pussy can certainly be desired by any and all genders, therefore a person glancing at the title and not taking the time to read the actual thread could very well assume that input was welcomed by folks of any gender.

I am now amending the title of this thread to be more clear so that there is ZERO room for confusion as to who this thread is for and about. You all have repeatedly stated throughout the thread who this thread is for and I support this discussion happening as intended.

With the title of the thread amended, there should be no further input from people not identified as women.

I do hope this helps get the discussion back on track!

Thanks,
Medusa

[TruTexan]

I am a lesbian butch woman, I have a pussy and a clitoris, not a cock. My cock sits in a drawer made of silicone. That being said.........
I love having a femme partner that performs oral sex on me, it drives me insane and actually I can cum from her doing it. I love eating pussy just as much as the femme I'm with and trust me when we're partnered with the right match, it can be mind blowing sex. I love love love oral sex either receiving it or giving it. I don't call it giving head either and I don't identify with calling it that. It's oral sex period. It's sucking a clit, tasting her vagina juices,eating pussy, etc. that's what I"m talking about. I just love the hell out of it. I also love other things that go on but that's for another thread topic I suppose. I Love making love with a femme who isn't afraid of diving right into my pussy and taking what she wants and making me cum and vice versa. This is the way I want to go in this thread. Lets talk about it discuss it like adults that we are. Explore ideas, etc. So with all this said, please begin posting again and lets keep this thread right back on track.
Justy

[*Anya*]

I have not said much in here. It is always a balancing act for me to share myself honestly without sharing more of my girlfriend than she would want. Respecting her boundaries is important to me.

She just calls my nose in my iPad time: "when you go on that butch femme blog".

She has never asked the name and she realizes it is my "me time"; in the same way her playing golf is "her time" (we kinda gave up trying to teach me golf).

We made love last night and it was fantastic. 14 months later and it is still so good.

I am a lesbian.

I love pussy.

I love Butch pussy in general and my GF's butch pussy, the absolute, very best.

I love the smell.

When I first go down on her, I first have to breathe in deeply. For me, it is like entering a secret garden. I always get my first rush of excitement at simply the smell of her.

I try to go very slowly, to prolong our arousal.

Not always very easy to do.

I adore the silkiness of her juice, the feel of the satiny inner labia, the hardness of her clit and the tightness of her vagina.

I almost cum at the first touch of my tongue to her. I find it deeply arousing.

I have loved eating pussy from the very first time I ever went down on a woman. Of course, the first few times I did, I felt awkward and unsure. Was I doing it right? Is she liking it? Am I any good at it?

As time went on, I learned to just let myself go, to really be at one with the woman and pay deep attention to her every sound and movement and when I find that perfect spot for her-not to change the tempo or change what I am doing with my tongue at all (unless asked, told, ordered to change-harder, a little more to the right, yes, there!

I digress...

I love that she identifies as a lesbian, a female, a butch woman that loves femmes.

This femme in particular.

I adore, adore and swoon at the fact that she loves for me to go down on her.

I loved it so much last night, I came while going down on her.

It feels like lightening in a bottle and I feel so lucky to have it.

:moonstars:

[Happy_Go_Lucky]

You are so much in love! So very, very happy for you. What a lucky butch. ;)

[TruTexan]

Anya, what a lovely post about lesbian butch pussy. I couldn't agree with you more on what you've stated. I feel the same way when I am partnered with a femme. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us all. Much appreciated ma'am.

[Kobi]

Anya, thank you for that beautiful, warm, sensuous, and loving post.

Obviously, you appreciate and enjoy all the female body has to offer. And, I am sure your partner derives immense pleasure from having her female body appreciated, cherished and loved.

This was a very inspiring post, very woman positive, very accepting of the female body and all it has to offer, and very lesbian validating.

[imperfect_cupcake]

I do suck butch clit. However I'd would like to assert that the butch cock I also suck is NOT male.and not a male term. Its female cock. It's dyke. It resides on a female body and used by someone of a female sex.

To me, female cock is lesbian.

And it gets used in conjunction with butch pussy. Neither one of which is male.

I really dislike this cock=male, pussy=female shit that happens here a lot.

Most of my Lesbian partners identify with BOTH.

But yes I do understand the need for space about pussy.
I just get irritated with things being gade I to a dichotomy when I reside in space that are both or neither. Its why I'm often not welcome by local lesbians. So I get a bit irritated.

:)

[ForeverMe]

ok i'm gonna be brave here and start this thread not sure where I wanna go with it other than just to do a simple discussion about lesbian femmes and do you or don't you enjoy your butch's pussy?
I know not everyone ID's on this site is okay with their female body parts so I am not trying to exclude or offend anyone from helping this discussion get started. I"ve not found anything like this on this site so here goes.
I'm a lesbian butch myself and I personally enjoy my lesbian femme partner(when I have one) when she enjoys making love to me which entails oral sex on me, etc etc, etc and possibly other things.
Without going into any detail from the bed room, lets just keep this a general discussion because what goes on in one's bedroom, I see it as sacred and private.


Are there other folks on this site like me that feel this way? Where are you? I been looking but dont' see you around or am I just passing you by?
Please feel free to discuss the topic in an open and friendly manner.
I know that there are others that ID differently and don't have sex the way I do, and that's great. I accept them all as part of my community.
I hope no one is offended. Thanks.



I am one of the femme lesbians that love a hot butch woman. My preference has always been those that identify as women. I personally have no interest in being with any woman that has no interest in my giving of myself fully. I've heard all of the reasons for butch women not wanting to receive oral sex, touching, or numerous other things and I totally respect that, for them. It is just not for me. I want a butch woman that can hold my hand, kiss me passionately, make me weak in the knees just hearing from her. The woman that can and will hold me when I'm sad, listen to me when I'm upset, make love to me when we want and need each other and fuck me when the time is right. I need that woman that can match me with my supercharged sex drive. I need a woman that I can kiss until she is breathless, share our hopes and dreams between us, take care of her every need and desire. Make her day better when she's having a tough day. A woman that I can lick from head to toe, hopefully having her beg for more. I love to please.

My "type" of desires are not for everyone, but butch pussy? Oh yes PLEASE! :wine:

[TruTexan]

Well dip me in honey and throw me to the femmes then by gosh !! Woohooo, thought this thread was dead as a door nail. LOL


Feel free to discuss anything that comes to mind about the topic, preferences, etc. I don't necessarily have a direction to go with the thread, so please feel free.

And thanks HB, for your post, very informative and a learning curve for me. I appreciate the input.

Thanks to all whom are posting here. Enjoy :P

[ForeverMe]

Well dip me in honey and throw me to the femmes then by gosh !! Woohooo, thought this thread was dead as a door nail. LOL


Feel free to discuss anything that comes to mind about the topic, preferences, etc. I don't necessarily have a direction to go with the thread, so please feel free.

And thanks HB, for your post, very informative and a learning curve for me. I appreciate the input.

Thanks to all whom are posting here. Enjoy :P

I love honey!!!

[TruTexan]

I love honey!!!

Dare I ask what other flavors you like? hahahha:sunglass:

[bokster]

I like receiving AS MUCH as I like giving - it's 2-way or the highway for me, baby!

[ConCrtAnge1]

I must say I have loved reading this thread.. Having only ever dated Butch women I truly never knew there were as many labels for Butches.. However since being single after many years I have discovered all these new labels.. Makes for one hell of a confused femme! I personally must say I love to be with a butch who loves to be made love to. I wanna touch every inch of your body as I want you to touch mine! I love the whole act of foreplay into love making I love the taste of my butch on my lips. :-) I can and will respect my partners wishes and needs but it is a me thing that I need to beable to fully take in my butch as well.. :-) thanks for this thread!!!

[TruTexan]

Welcome to the thread ConcrtAnge1. Glad you enjoyed reading the posts here.
As for labels , yes, there are many ID's for butch for many. It is whom they have grown into being in their time. I'm still not familiar with all the labels of our community, there always seems to be one more that I 'm not familiar with and it's a learning curve for me.

[ConCrtAnge1]

Welcome to the thread ConcrtAnge1. Glad you enjoyed reading the posts here.
As for labels , yes, there are many ID's for butch for many. It is whom they have grown into being in their time. I'm still not familiar with all the labels of our community, there always seems to be one more that I 'm not familiar with and it's a learning curve for me.


Thanks so much for the welcome :-)

[imperfect_cupcake]

Hey cca, just a word from a a girl used to using sites and been in many different dyke-genderqueer communities. I have dated/partnered/payed around with many different butch people. And depending on the community, they either use lots of different a labels (like here) or they just use one or two but still have the same variety of types of self concept.

Usually I tend to ignore the label or name, and just talk to them about how they like to be turned on, what they enjoy in bed, what they don't, listen to their stories, make suggestions and see how it floats or not. I find one person's ID mostly doesn't match another person's ID of the same ID. Or, two people of different IDs have very similar ways of having sex, loving and sharing and self concepts. That's also why some of my partners have no ID'd as butch at all, but they still behaved, self conceptualised, related and had sex like my butch partners.

Don't worry too much about the names. Talk to them as individuals instead. Even something like "stone" is very diverse in how they conceptualised their sexuality.

Many of my lesbian partners don't see themselves as having a pussy and many of them do. Many of my genderqueer butch partners see themselves a having one.

Lots of my butch playmates did not wish to use a cock at all, and some of my non-butch IDd partners were utterly dyke dick mad.

I have not found that ID to mean anything but a personal concept. I don't even consider myself a femme when I'm in North America. As it saves on assumptions from *within* the community on this side of the pond.
So, easiest way to figure all of the IDs? Don't. Just get to know people as individuals and let them tell you about themselves and their ideas around what it means to them.

[TruTexan]

Hey cca, just a word from a a girl used to using sites and been in many different dyke-genderqueer communities. I have dated/partnered/payed around with many different butch people. And depending on the community, they either use lots of different a labels (like here) or they just use one or two but still have the same variety of types of self concept.

Usually I tend to ignore the label or name, and just talk to them about how they like to be turned on, what they enjoy in bed, what they don't, listen to their stories, make suggestions and see how it floats or not. I find one person's ID mostly doesn't match another person's ID of the same ID. Or, two people of different IDs have very similar ways of having sex, loving and sharing and self concepts. That's also why some of my partners have no ID'd as butch at all, but they still behaved, self conceptualised, related and had sex like my butch partners.

Don't worry too much about the names. Talk to them as individuals instead. Even something like "stone" is very diverse in how they conceptualised their sexuality.

Many of my lesbian partners don't see themselves as having a pussy and many of them do. Many of my genderqueer butch partners see themselves a having one.

Lots of my butch playmates did not wish to use a cock at all, and some of my non-butch IDd partners were utterly dyke dick mad.

I have not found that ID to mean anything but a personal concept. I don't even consider myself a femme when I'm in North America. As it saves on assumptions from *within* the community on this side of the pond.
So, easiest way to figure all of the IDs? Don't. Just get to know people as individuals and let them tell you about themselves and their ideas around what it means to them.

HB, THIS is a very informative and beautifully put post. I thank you for taking the time to put your thoughts together and sharing them in the thread.
You're very well spoken. :)

[ConCrtAnge1]

So, easiest way to figure all of the IDs? Don't. Just get to know people as individuals and let them tell you about themselves and their ideas around what it means to them.

Hey there honeybarbara, thanks for the post.. I love the idea of NOT trying to figure it out :-)

[Diablo]

i just discovered this thread....very interesting....very interesting.

[ForeverMe]

i just discovered this thread....very interesting....very interesting.

Oh yes!! Super interesting!!!

[vagina]

It is not only the Butch pussy that I crave, although I worship at her altar. It is everything that comes in that Butch package- the thighs, the breasts, the back and the butt.

Being a Femme lesbian, I get extremely turned on performing cunnilingus on my Butch. Just the though makes me ache and burn.

[Kobi]

It is not only the Butch pussy that I crave, although I worship at her altar. It is everything that comes in that Butch package- the thighs, the breasts, the back and the butt.

Being a Femme lesbian, I get extremely turned on performing cunnilingus on my Butch. Just the though makes me ache and burn.




Hmm. Quite unusual and unique introductory post.

Welcome to The Planet.

:detective:

[vagina]

Thank you for the welcome. I thought that I would just jump right in and get straight to the point.

This post was pretty much the whole reason for joining the planet.

So, another Thank You to TruTexan for starting this thread.

[TruTexan]

Thank you for the welcome. I thought that I would just jump right in and get straight to the point.

This post was pretty much the whole reason for joining the planet.

So, another Thank You to TruTexan for starting this thread.

Well welcome to the Planet. I ask you though, why you chose the screen name you did instead of something else? Curiosity is why I ask you this.

Anywho, hope you enjoy the Planet and make lots of new friends.

[vagina]

TruTexan, to answer your question regarding the name. I did originally try to open an account with the name I typically use- Katyaxkatya... however I used my spam email to register and wasn't able to ever log on.

So, instead to commemorate the post on Butch Pussy I decided to go by VAGINA.

[TruTexan]

Interesting choice. And thanks for your posts.

[ForeverMe]

It's tea time!! Now where the hell is that honey?

[TruTexan]

It's tea time!! Now where the hell is that honey?

lol I think it's in the cupboard. :sunglass:

[lamuymuyfem]

keep it up - I'm learning a lot…..

lesbian sex is so deliciously complicated…...:cherry::fan::rose:

[TruTexan]

keep it up - I'm learning a lot…..

lesbian sex is so deliciously complicated…...:cherry::fan::rose:

It is so deliciously complicated isn't it !! YUMMY !! :P

[vagina]

My ex asked me to strap for her (butch) and it blew me away. We never got around to it because of other issues... But she also would tell me I'm not ready for it, etc... And maybe I wasn't. Now, I am so turned on by the thought of strapping for a butch and making love to a butch in MY lap.

I like making love to butches and kissing their bodies, eating pussy, ass, and sucking on breasts and nipples.

I like to be the service-or and even more I love it when a butch begs me to make love to them. I wish more butches would do that and not feel self conscious about it.

I love to give oral sex to butches and hearing them moan and groan. I love to feel her climax in my mouth because it makes me wet/ gives me orgasm as well.

The whole stone butch thing is a myth- that they are the only ones who can cum from giving pleasure to someone else.

I'm a femme and I feel the same way- that I get turned on if my partner is showing that she likes whatever it is that I'm doing.

But it's the butches that I want. I've been with femmes/ bi girls/ straight girls and it's ok.... But def not like being with a butch lesbian.

With my ex, she would get really turned on and in the mood if I talked to her. Since I'm quite shy, I didn't want to speak in English, so instead I would turn her on my speaking in Russian... Saying things like I've been dreaming of you all day. You are so beautiful, I want to make love to you. It turns me on when you're so wet. Etc, etc. it got the job done. And after she cums, I would climb on top and rub pussies and get off that way.

I'm talking to a woman, not a man, so why would me talking to her not be feminine . When making love to a butch, I get so soft... So so soft. Not like when they fuck me. And the way I talk is extremely feminine.

What I think some butches misinterpret is that just because I'm so soft and sweet that it makes them feel like a femme. But, that's just not possible .

And I do feel that butch lesbians are beautiful. I know many prefer handsome and that's fine. But they are still women.

Now, to describe more accurately what my experience also entails... Butches are often irritable when given too much attention. They often take your hand and mouth away. They get frustrated if they can't cum. They don't want to be touched and referred to as women. They don't want to be made love to.

[Happy_Go_Lucky]

why some of member Vagina's posts makes the temperature go up several degrees. *Gulp

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/51/03/28/5103282f8ea58cf2f1203e86572b7e71.jpg

[TruTexan]

why some of member Vagina's posts makes the temperature go up several degrees. *Gulp

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/51/03/28/5103282f8ea58cf2f1203e86572b7e71.jpg

It sure did........ :)

[vagina]

What I like about being with a butch is that butch women complete my puzzle with their pieces. They make love to me exactly how I like and they respond to my love making in a way that makes me comfortable. In relationships, I like to be romanced by a strong, tough woman who does turn into putty in my hands. And vise versa I like to be able to do the same for my butch. I like to be able to dress in the stereotypical woman design of dresses and heels, etc and be able to treat my butch woman in the same type of manner.... To spoil her because she deserves it.

[TruTexan]

What I like about being with a butch is that butch women complete my puzzle with their pieces. They make love to me exactly how I like and they respond to my love making in a way that makes me comfortable. In relationships, I like to be romanced by a strong, tough woman who does turn into putty in my hands. And vise versa I like to be able to do the same for my butch. I like to be able to dress in the stereotypical woman design of dresses and heels, etc and be able to treat my butch woman in the same type of manner.... To spoil her because she deserves it.



ok ok...........drooling over here. :)

[*Anya*]

I love this thread.

I feel right at home here and want to fist

(wanna, wanna)

... bump the thread,

:stillheart:

I can't sleep. Think I'll drag the sweetheart butch away from golf on TV for some of our snuggle time.

Best euphemism ever!

Nightly nite💋

[Mel C.]

subscribing....pretty clear from the few posts I read that I want to start at the beginning...yum! Thank you for providing much needed happy thoughts before bedtime.

[CyberStud]

What an absolutely wonderful thread. Probably not the best one to read before I have to go to work but it has definitely put a smile on face and a spring in my step which makes for a productive day!

[EnchantedNightDweller]

Good thread but yes, not the best to read before going to work! Lol

[Mel C.]

I am glad Tru started this thread. I think that there is a misconception that women who identify as butch somehow give up their erogenous zones in the process. What I like (or don't like) depends on many things, including but not limited to my partner, my hormones, my self-esteem, etc. I do find that people (femmes) are sometimes hesitant to explore what works and what doesn't. I "get" that the hesitation is sometimes due to past experiences with butches who don't want contact with their female parts but we (butches) aren't all cut from the same cloth.

I enjoy each opportunity to find the "right" spot to touch/lick/suck/fuck to get as many orgasms as possible until one of us has to tap out from exhaustion. It would be fabulous to be with someone who was willing to take a similar journey with me. I am female, not feminine, and my female parts count in the bedroom (or wherever) too.

By the way, to the femmes who are posting their willingness and/or desire to please a butch pussy (or your preferred term), thank you...and yum!

[TruTexan]

I am glad Tru started this thread. I think that there is a misconception that women who identify as butch somehow give up their erogenous zones in the process. What I like (or don't like) depends on many things, including but not limited to my partner, my hormones, my self-esteem, etc. I do find that people (femmes) are sometimes hesitant to explore what works and what doesn't. I "get" that the hesitation is sometimes due to past experiences with butches who don't want contact with their female parts but we (butches) aren't all cut from the same cloth.

I enjoy each opportunity to find the "right" spot to touch/lick/suck/fuck to get as many orgasms as possible until one of us has to tap out from exhaustion. It would be fabulous to be with someone who was willing to take a similar journey with me. I am female, not feminine, and my female parts count in the bedroom (or wherever) too.

By the way, to the femmes who are posting their willingness and/or desire to please a butch pussy (or your preferred term), thank you...and yum!

Mel, thanks for your post ! I couldn't have said it any better bro. Kudos to you !

ETA: I haven't been coming online much but I sure thought this thread had died some time ago. Thanks to all whom have posted here and revived this thread. I think it's worth talking about the misconceptions and some such things and anything else y'all wanna talk about here.

[Prudence]

LMAO.. I just came across this thread and wailing over here. I understand ya Tru.. I really do. Im one of you. Its like it doesnt matter when it comes to the bedroom with these two type people. When it comes to love making with one of our kind.. you cant tell where the butch or femme begins or ends with either of us.

[CherryWine]

I love this thread. I will say that in my personal experience, it has never taken from partner's masculine energy nor from my feminine energy when she allows me to indulge in every bit of her body. In all honesty, sometimes it seems to intensify it.



Oh, and.....


The inside of a butchy thigh makes me believe in whatever gawd is on the mantel.

:bowdown:

[TruTexan]

I love this thread. I will say that in my personal experience, it has never taken from partner's masculine energy nor from my feminine energy when she allows me to indulge in every bit of her body. In all honesty, sometimes it seems to intensify it.



Oh, and.....



:bowdown:

Cherry, I would happen to agree with your post. It doesn't take away from my female masculinity or my energy or my partner's feminine energy at the time , when we indulge in every bit of one another's bodies. It does actually intensify mine for sure.

[flapdoodle]

Fabulous topic indeed.

I am not with the majority here, but, that matters not.

Those I'm attracted to and those I attract dig the fact that I do not "return" certain sexual favors. This does not mean I don't satisfy my partner, because, I do.

All too often they did not combust from what I was doing to them, but rather from things they were doing to me.

I have never just climbed into bed with a butch and made assumptions. Since I wait a significant amount of time before givin it up, I have ample opportunity to discuss, get to know...the desires of the butch I am with. I made darn sure of it. I too needed to be heard. A sexual need or kink expressed to me that is not something I am into, means, to me, we are not compatible, Period. I will not even go there, why bother? ...and yes, to me it really is that cut and dry.

Many i have dated expressed an interest in things such as BDSM. I am not interested in that. As much as I may have liked them, hot or not, it was Good-bye. I don't stick around thinking MY pussy will somehow change them into liking what I do or no longer liking or needing what they do with my wicked "pussy power" That's a game I never played.

I think problems occur when people don't take the time to discuss sex before hand, also, many want a relationship that makes them feel happy and are willing to do anything to have that "happy" feeling. I am not one of them.

I married a butch who does not desire what I do, and, I respect that. If she was to change her mind down the road and wanted me to explore her in ways I never have, again, a conversation would take place.

In the past, when asked if I would do this or that, I never thought of it as making a butch any less masculine, not at all. Simply personal preference.

I do not care what my wife or anyone else calls their genitals....again, to me, not an indication of butch or masculine or not, it's just a word, it's all just words.

So, I do not go digging for gold in my butches body parts...I let the gold flow downwards, but, I'm right there to catch it.

Thanks Tru, awesome thread!!!!!

[Ascot]

I totally get off on tasting myself in my lover's kiss.

[*Anya*]

I totally get off on tasting myself in my lover's kiss.


I love this.

Delicious, in so many ways.

Yes. Yes.

Yes.

❤️

[TruTexan]

I know what goes on in my own mind when I'm totally enmeshed between a femme's thighs. BUT, I was wondering what goes on in the minds of femmes when they are enmeshed between their butch's thighs and having Their way with them? What kinds of thoughts run around in your mind?

[TruTexan]

BUMP ! just because.

[thedreamerin]

Y'all made my ovaries hurt.
Good lord.
*wipes the brow*

[Daisy Chain]

Y'all made my ovaries hurt.
Good lord.
*wipes the brow*


LMAO! So funny...and true !

I`ll come back to this thread when I`m a little braver.......

But I`m so happy to read such honest and open posts and and such rightly deserved respect for whatever our personal preferences are.

DC

[TruTexan]

LMAO! So funny...and true !

I`ll come back to this thread when I`m a little braver.......

But I`m so happy to read such honest and open posts and and such rightly deserved respect for whatever our personal preferences are.

DC

Don't be so shy and afraid to post, DC, it's all good here. No one knows you so why not open up and share. LOL

[C0LLETTE]

Seems to me that when someone is between your thighs, you are either turned on or close to, by that time...but if you start stopping, at that point, to think things over and calculating the other person's butch/femme quotient, I'd be thinking that someone is being objectified and this may be a short trip.

[Martina]

Seems to me that when someone is between your thighs, you are either turned on or close to, by that time...but if you start stopping, at that point, to think things over and calculating the other person's butch/femme quotient, I'd be thinking that someone is being objectified and this may be a short trip.

Who said they were stopping to calculate the other person's butch/femme quotient? I must have missed that post.

Re objectification, getting off on someone's masculinity or femininity is not objectification. Do you honestly think it is?

[Femminator]

My Butch usually prefers to give and not receive, but there are occasions where she does, I take full advantage. She fully enjoys it at this point and so do I. I sometimes will even orgasm a second time when I get the chance to taste her. So, yeah, I think most Femmes, unless they are Stone variety like to please their Butches in this manner.

[TruTexan]

Ya know, I just miss having a loving partner, one that I can enjoy myself with, love and be loved by, and have the special occasions where loving her and her loving me in a sexual way is oh soo good.
It's been a while and I have memories but memories are one thing, the real thing is totally better. And I just can't do the casual sex thing, it's totally not for me.

[C0LLETTE]

Seems to me that when someone is between your thighs, you are either turned on or close to, by that time...but if you start stopping, at that point, to think things over and calculating the other person's butch/femme quotient, I'd be thinking that someone is being objectified and this may be a short trip.

I realize that "if" is a very small word and easily overlooked. I apologize for not having typed it in bold, underline or italics...and any misunderstanding that may have ensued.

[Martina]

I realize that "if" is a very small word and easily overlooked. I apologize for not having typed it in bold, underline or italics...and any misunderstanding that may have ensued.

The presence or absence of the "if" doesn't alter much. What response in this thread even prompted you to say this? Is this the way you think of butch femme people or people on this thread or? This is one of many dismissive remarks you have made over the years regarding butch-femme. You usually refer to labeling in these discussions. Your comments sometimes imply very respect for the thinking/decision-making/preferences of those who value the butch-femme dynamic.

[Tuff Stuff]

Well,I for one was not offended.I like lesbians,I like their lips..on my lips.I like their lips on my clit,on my tits,on my thighs,on my neck,on my forehead..not in that order.I don't much like the idea of her being the penetrator :readfineprint:but i'm game for anything else she has in mind.

[TruTexan]

Well Dip Me In HONEY and Throw Me To The Lesbians !! lol