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SoNotHer 10-09-2011 09:24 AM
I am actually laughing out loud. Awesome :-)

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Originally Posted by UofMfan (Post 434237)

AtLast 10-09-2011 12:02 PM
this Supreme Court ruling may very well be the most salient ruling undermining the civil and human rights of our time. Large, public corporations won the keys to control every election in the US with this ruling. Which eventually will lead directly to the take over of this very Court by ultra right wing conservatism in the US.

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 434144)
So I talked to individuals today who were part of the 99%, or however they identified themselves, protest. The signs the group held were mainly directed at stripping the corporation of the legal fiction "personhood."

I got a pointer to this documentary:




I haven't watched this yet, but I remember from Linguistics classes that the metaphor "The corporation is a person" is what allows, for example, a corp to make certain contributions to a political candidate or issue, same as a person. Interesting stuff.

SoNotHer 10-09-2011 12:58 PM
Ferreting out the real news
 
Leave it to RT to put up the best coverage I've seen of the NY protest, the President's take on it, and the very clear message of it:

JAGG 10-09-2011 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by weatherboi (Post 433355)
Most people in this country who are under water or are in foreclosure are so because of criminally over inflated market values, predatory mortgages and unethical credit card companies. All mostly directed by banks, mortgage companies, and their regulators. People were given the illusion that they were living within their means by people throwing misinformation in their faces about the state of our lands market values. I bought my house at peak market value in foreclosure. It is now worth less than that foreclosure price. That is under water and a bad investment on the banks part...not mine. I love my house but if I am overpaying for it what is the point??? The market may never bounce back to what it was. Many other fiscally responsible people have chosen to walk away because of this and I think about it too.
Here is a good web-site you can check out.
http://www.makinghomeaffordable.gov/...ages/harp.aspx

Dominique 10-09-2011 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 434398)
Here is a good web-site you can check out.
http://www.makinghomeaffordable.gov/...ages/harp.aspx
The Making Homes Affordable Act is over. Even after it was given an extension. The rules to qualify were so rigid, only 20% of the people who applied actually qualified. And,
60% of the money made available to help, went unused.

I was trying to find the link. I just read this yesterday. I was quite shocked to read it too. People were calling it the Obama refinance. Basically, lenders were under no obligation to co-operate, so they didn't. More of the same. I'll keep looking for the link

weatherboi 10-09-2011 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 434398)
Here is a good web-site you can check out.
http://www.makinghomeaffordable.gov/...ages/harp.aspx
my only comment to this plan is it was worthless for most!!!

The point to my post was not that i can't afford it, it is just the opposite.
The housing market has created many negative investments for responsible home owners.

Occupy Jax was successful. Of course there were negative reports about the amount of attendees. One councilman tried to have it moved the day of because it was hosted on in front of city hall. We have a Nor Easter coming through so torrential rain was had.

UofMfan 10-09-2011 03:06 PM
I love Alan Grayson!
 

Okiebug61 10-09-2011 03:18 PM
I am enjoying the resurgence of "We the People". I only wish I lived somewhere that was protesting so I could join in.

JAGG 10-09-2011 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellow band (Post 434404)
The Making Homes Affordable Act is over. Even after it was given an extension. The rules to qualify were so rigid, only 20% of the people who applied actually qualified. And,
60% of the money made available to help, went unused.

I was trying to find the link. I just read this yesterday. I was quite shocked to read it too. People were calling it the Obama refinance. Basically, lenders were under no obligation to co-operate, so they didn't. More of the same. I'll keep looking for the link
Heard about it on a radio commercial. I thought it was a new program of some kind. Didn't know it was old and useless. Wonder why they keep advertising it?

SoNotHer 10-09-2011 10:35 PM
He makes some excellent points. Thank you for posting this.


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Originally Posted by UofMfan (Post 434444)

Silvy 10-10-2011 02:55 AM
I've never seen this before!
 
I am from the UK and I've never watched the news when reporting about demonstrations of US citizens against banks, hedge fonds, sharks and monsters. Thank you all for your courage and conviction to show us how we globally have to stand together, reaching out for more ethical values and moral consciousness in capitalism and business.

Dominique 10-10-2011 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 434671)
Heard about it on a radio commercial. I thought it was a new program of some kind. Didn't know it was old and useless. Wonder why they keep advertising it?
Just like you Jagg, I connected to a link that was giving it props, then I hit the bad press. I think due to the lack of co operation by the lending institutions and all of the the red tape involved, it only set people up for more disappointment. I'm hoping they shut it down AS IT WAS, revisit it,
and come back with something better, since MONEY is left. I also read this housing crisis is the worst since the depression. Let's hope they realize a little less restraints will help!

persiphone 10-10-2011 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ebon (Post 431759)
This guy is awesome. This was an interview meant to make fun of the protestors but he schooled the dude.

awesome vid

*Anya* 10-10-2011 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ebon (Post 431759)
This guy is awesome. This was an interview meant to make fun of the protestors but he schooled the dude.
Wow! Wow! Awesomely articulate man!! Thanks for posting the vid Ebon!

persiphone 10-10-2011 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SoNotHer (Post 434362)
Leave it to RT to put up the best coverage I've seen of the NY protest, the President's take on it, and the very clear message of it:

clearly i'm going to have to just stop here for my Occupy news fix :) thanks everyone!

theoddz 10-10-2011 09:39 AM
I love me some Dennis Kucinich. We need a few more good Progressive Independents like this guy and Bernie Sanders in office. :thumbsup:



~Theo~ :bouquet:

Novelafemme 10-10-2011 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by theoddz (Post 434927)
I love me some Dennis Kucinich. We need a few more good Progressive Independents like this guy and Bernie Sanders in office. :thumbsup:



~Theo~ :bouquet:
If I could triple like this I would!!! The man is amazing. And his wife isn't hard on the eyes either. :)

Ebon 10-10-2011 12:38 PM

AtLast 10-10-2011 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by theoddz (Post 434927)
I love me some Dennis Kucinich. We need a few more good Progressive Independents like this guy and Bernie Sanders in office. :thumbsup:



~Theo~ :bouquet:
And Whew!= the district redraws in OH did not take him out of office.

persiphone 10-10-2011 01:20 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-hack...150513737.html

so realistically, what would happen if hackers wiped out the stock exchange?


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