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asphaltcowboi 10-27-2012 11:46 PM
naw were all out here but we have been put on the friends list

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Angeltoes 10-27-2012 11:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Butchone1969 (Post 670869)
Ivan :awww:
Sometimes it seems that way, but maybe that's because the media focus is mainly on the femme/femme dynamic. I sure hope butches are sticking around...

Duchess 10-28-2012 01:58 AM
In my opinion, the only thing that's dying are all of the rules that were used to define a Butch's life.
  • You have to be a top
  • You have to be with a Femme
  • You have to be head of household
  • You can't bear children
  • Etc.,etc.......
Makes me tired just thinking about it. Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting there's something wrong with the ideas I've listed nor am I suggesting that all Butches have felt the pressure to uphold a certain idea of what it means to be Butch. However, I have witnessed the torment in friends and a partner.

Cheers to living the life that truly makes you happy!!!(f)


Duchess

Sunny 10-28-2012 03:43 AM
k
 
I am a Butch in a non-Femme area. I get double takes from women here all the time. They look at me thinking I am a guy. I am sure that if I encountered a Femme I would not know unless she flirted with me. Then again one is never really sure.
I had a woman come in to the store to pick out a watch and she kept asking me which one I liked. LOL She picked the one I said I liked and then told the cashier that I helped her pick out the watch. She had strong eye contact. I think she was just a straight woman liking my energy. Oh well, the life of a Butch.

asphaltcowboi 10-28-2012 05:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunny (Post 685809)
I am a Butch in a non-Femme area. I get double takes from women here all the time. They look at me thinking I am a guy. I am sure that if I encountered a Femme I would not know unless she flirted with me. Then again one is never really sure.
I had a woman come in to the store to pick out a watch and she kept asking me which one I liked. LOL She picked the one I said I liked and then told the cashier that I helped her pick out the watch. She had strong eye contact. I think she was just a straight woman liking my energy. Oh well, the life of a Butch.
i hear ya on that.. makes you wonder of shes a femme flirting with you, or if shes a strait woman mistaken you for a guy.. then you wonder maybe shes just a nice person to everyone? should you take the chance and ask her out? if shes a femme it might go well. if shes a straight woman thinking your a guy you get to spend the eve watchung her check out guys that come in and hope she doesnt try to feel you up! if she just a nice person to everyone youll prob have a nice date hearing about her high school sweet heart her mom her sis an that sort of thing.. hmm really want to take that chance? guess a dates a date!

Kobi 10-28-2012 06:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duchess (Post 685800)
In my opinion, the only thing that's dying are all of the rules that were used to define a Butch's life.
  • You have to be a top
  • You have to be with a Femme
  • You have to be head of household
  • You can't bear children
  • Etc.,etc.......
Makes me tired just thinking about it. Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting there's something wrong with the ideas I've listed nor am I suggesting that all Butches have felt the pressure to uphold a certain idea of what it means to be Butch. However, I have witnessed the torment in friends and a partner.

Cheers to living the life that truly makes you happy!!!(f)


Duchess


Thank you for saying this.

Sometimes it feels we are a dying breed when, in reality, we are just morphing into ourselves, not adhering to preconceived notions or expectations, and doing experimenting of our own.

Defining oneself rather than being defined is very liberating and satisfying. Albeit, a bit confusing to some.

WolfyOne 10-28-2012 10:09 AM
We are truly not a dying breed
We come in different sizes, shapes, colors, but we are out there

I may not want to work on cars anymore at my age, but I will work a garden and mow a lawn for a partner, of course, I may want something in return, like an ice cold beer or iced tea or bottled water.

What I think is that with all the stereotyping, I'll use me, with my long hair, may or may not be seen as butch by some, others may embrace it. Seems for some reason some femmes can't see the butch and some butches cannot recognize the femme.

Wolfy, who would enjoy someone that sees me as I am :)

Tommi 10-28-2012 10:34 AM
Butch
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfyOne (Post 685981)
We are truly not a dying breed
We come in different sizes, shapes, colors, but we are out there

I may not want to work on cars anymore at my age, but I will work a garden and mow a lawn for a partner, of course, I may want something in return, like an ice cold beer or iced tea or bottled water.

What I think is that with all the stereotyping, I'll use me, with my long hair, may or may not be seen as butch by some, others may embrace it. Seems for some reason some femmes can't see the butch and some butches cannot recognize the femme.

Wolfy, who would enjoy someone that sees me as I am :)
I love your long hair. I love you..., and when the right femme comes along, I'll screen her for my Brudder, a Butch who is comfortable in being just who you are. :phonegab::praying: WolfyOne, No pretenses, just a strong moral character, and ...a what character at that.

:mohawk:

You promised to do the same for me..:phonegab::phonegab:

WolfyOne 10-28-2012 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommi (Post 686004)
I love your long hair. I love you..., and when the right femme comes along, I'll screen her for my Brudder, a Butch who is comfortable in being just who you are. :phonegab::praying: WolfyOne, No pretenses, just a strong moral character, and ...a what character at that.

:mohawk:

You promised to do the same for me..:phonegab::phonegab:

My biggest bromance and advocate is you...my bestest brudder in the world.
Thank you for such kind words about me as you know, I love you back.

There is nothing in this world I would not do for you, short of killing anyone.

Sitting here, missing my bestie :)

GraffitiBoi 10-28-2012 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asphaltcowboi (Post 685827)
i hear ya on that.. makes you wonder of shes a femme flirting with you, or if shes a strait woman mistaken you for a guy.. then you wonder maybe shes just a nice person to everyone? should you take the chance and ask her out? if shes a femme it might go well. if shes a straight woman thinking your a guy you get to spend the eve watchung her check out guys that come in and hope she doesnt try to feel you up! if she just a nice person to everyone youll prob have a nice date hearing about her high school sweet heart her mom her sis an that sort of thing.. hmm really want to take that chance? guess a dates a date!
Been there. Done that. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it just becomes a story to share and laugh about with my brothers around the bonfire! LOL

SelfMadeMan 11-03-2012 10:37 AM
I have so many wonderful, amazing Butch friends that I adore, and I can assure you, they are NOT a dying breed!!! Butches have such a long, rich history, and are so important to the GLBT community, and I know I sure don't want to see that tossed by the wayside. I *hope* what's dying are the stereotypes and incorrect propaganda - that Butches all want to be FTM, and that all FTMs are ex-Butches... FTM and Butch are two different identities, and it makes me sad how much animosity there is between the two. So PLEASE, to all the Butches out there, don't feel like you aren't super important to this community, and don't feel unappreciated, because I KNOW I'm not the only one who loves and supports you!! (Plus Butches are hot)

Graham 11-03-2012 11:26 AM
gosh
 
I hope not....I feel pretty alive!:vigil:

fever 11-04-2012 11:49 PM
Hmmm
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by asphaltcowboi (Post 685827)
i hear ya on that.. makes you wonder of shes a femme flirting with you, or if shes a strait woman mistaken you for a guy.. then you wonder maybe shes just a nice person to everyone? should you take the chance and ask her out? if shes a femme it might go well. if shes a straight woman thinking your a guy you get to spend the eve watchung her check out guys that come in and hope she doesnt try to feel you up! if she just a nice person to everyone youll prob have a nice date hearing about her high school sweet heart her mom her sis an that sort of thing.. hmm really want to take that chance? guess a dates a date!
Well now, if a lovely femme smiles at you in Raleys or Trader Joes in N. Cal, it could be me!!!! So, please say hello. Lol

Candice the travelling femme

Sun 11-05-2012 12:20 AM
Just my .02 worth on this topic. I previously posted a longer comment on this issue.

The words "dying" and "Butch" in the same sentence make me uncomfortable first of all. I love my Butch friends dearly. Lots of women are interested in Butch folks. Trust me on this, I hear it all the time.

My experience is that there is no way to tell if a woman identifies as Femme, bi, lesbian..whatever and who knows if she is married, single, poly, looking..you know what? We over process this stuff. If a woman is making eye contact with you she is interested in something. Take a chance and talk to her. Reach out. It could be the best choice that you ever make.

Kobi 11-05-2012 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun (Post 692401)

The words "dying" and "Butch" in the same sentence make me uncomfortable first of all.


I hear you on this part Sun. Everytime this thread is resurrected, my mind goes weird places like:

~who do we petition to have "butches" put on the endangered species lists?

~I see commercials.....similar to the ones where polar bears are trying to gingerly make their way across globally warmed pieces of thinning, fragile ice.....stranded butches searching for stable ground, roaming the world, in a seemingly endless solitary quest.......

~the creation of a non-profit Save A Butch Foundation where in exchange for a donation, you adopt a butch, get photos and letters to keep you informed on how your butch is alive, well and thriving. Also comes with address labels.

~maybe a butch gps system? We get chipped, they download the app, instant visibility and access! Hmm. Or instant stalkerism. I might need to rethink this one.

~"butches as a dying breed" is really the new Tea Party propaganda campaign to undermine gender variance for the benefit of white men with penises. This new campaign will run parallel with their current quest to remake women into barefoot, pregnant, dependent, subservient beings. Okay that was just a slanted reminder to get out and VOTE tomorrow.

~we dont have to worry about butches becoming a dying breed even if we are evolving. If there is ever a shortage, I'm sure ConAgra will find a way to make a large variety of shelf-stable, frozen, and refrigerated reconstituted/re-engineered butch.

Graham 11-05-2012 08:56 AM
A SLOGAN
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 692557)


I hear you on this part Sun. Everytime this thread is resurrected, my mind goes weird places like:

~who do we petition to have "butches" put on the endangered species lists?

~I see commercials.....similar to the ones where polar bears are trying to gingerly make their way across globally warmed pieces of thinning, fragile ice.....stranded butches searching for stable ground, roaming the world, in a seemingly endless solitary quest.......

~the creation of a non-profit Save A Butch Foundation where in exchange for a donation, you adopt a butch, get photos and letters to keep you informed on how your butch is alive, well and thriving. Also comes with address labels.

~maybe a butch gps system? We get chipped, they download the app, instant visibility and access! Hmm. Or instant stalkerism. I might need to rethink this one.

~"butches as a dying breed" is really the new Tea Party propaganda campaign to undermine gender variance for the benefit of white men with penises. This new campaign will run parallel with their current quest to remake women into barefoot, pregnant, dependent, subservient beings. Okay that was just a slanted reminder to get out and VOTE tomorrow.

~we dont have to worry about butches becoming a dying breed even if we are evolving. If there is ever a shortage, I'm sure ConAgra will find a way to make a large variety of shelf-stable, frozen, and refrigerated reconstituted/re-engineered butch.
SAVE THE BUTCHES!!!!

Elijah 11-05-2012 09:25 AM
I wonder what prompts this question?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am certainly not dead, nor am I moving to change My ID.


~Elijah

Sun 11-05-2012 10:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 692557)


I hear you on this part Sun. Everytime this thread is resurrected, my mind goes weird places like:

~who do we petition to have "butches" put on the endangered species lists?

~I see commercials.....similar to the ones where polar bears are trying to gingerly make their way across globally warmed pieces of thinning, fragile ice.....stranded butches searching for stable ground, roaming the world, in a seemingly endless solitary quest.......

~the creation of a non-profit Save A Butch Foundation where in exchange for a donation, you adopt a butch, get photos and letters to keep you informed on how your butch is alive, well and thriving. Also comes with address labels.

~maybe a butch gps system? We get chipped, they download the app, instant visibility and access! Hmm. Or instant stalkerism. I might need to rethink this one.

~"butches as a dying breed" is really the new Tea Party propaganda campaign to undermine gender variance for the benefit of white men with penises. This new campaign will run parallel with their current quest to remake women into barefoot, pregnant, dependent, subservient beings. Okay that was just a slanted reminder to get out and VOTE tomorrow.

~we dont have to worry about butches becoming a dying breed even if we are evolving. If there is ever a shortage, I'm sure ConAgra will find a way to make a large variety of shelf-stable, frozen, and refrigerated reconstituted/re-engineered butch.
OMG Kobi this cracked me up! Thank you, I needed a good laugh.

There is nothing quite so valuable to me as a great sense of humor.
Still lmao...

Girl_On_Fire 11-07-2012 08:42 PM
This is a great thread topic. I had often wondered the same thing. For years I used to say that "there are only two butches in Connecticut and they're with each other". Not that there would be anything wrong with that but still...:(

Tye 11-07-2012 10:52 PM
I agree with Elijah, we are still here! Tye


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