Based on what I've read, 12% of the population is gay..maybe that's wrong, but based on that say half of that is lesbian and we're talking about 6% of population. How much of that percentage even ascribes to the butch/femme dynamic...? Even if you say half, that's 3%, half femme and half butch, so 1.5% of the population is butch...in America? How many of those butches live in Boise, Idaho?

*crickets* Not very many.

Maybe the lesbian population is larger than that, but it seems to me that most women are looking for someone to join them and their man in a threeway. On this site we have lots of dreamy people, but in Boise I don't see butches looking for femmes for romance and commitment.

I vote we reverse engineer this just a little. I don't know about you, but 'visible' isn't much of a problem here. How about we chip the femmes so we can find them?

The techie in me reeally wants this app!

and I'm a super polite stalker...

:cheesy:

I think it would be fun to carry balloons with our vital information on them...are we single...what are we looking for...interests/hobbies....etc.... :)

Really? I thought it was actually less than 10%, but perhaps I'm the one who's wrong--I've been wrong before. (If straight/bi butch women count--big "if"--then your final result might increase a tiny little bit, but something tells me they aren't super-common either and are also not the ones looking for a third for a three-way.)

I dedicate this poem to the Butches that are most definitely here to stay.(f)
 

I Wrote A Good Omelet


I wrote a good omelet...and ate
a hot poem... after loving you

Buttoned my car...and drove my
coat home...in the rain...
after loving you


I goed on red...and stopped on
green...floating somewhere in between...
being here and being there...
after loving you


I rolled my bed...turned down
my hair...slightly
confused but...I don't care...


Laid out my teeth...and gargled my
gown...then I stood
...and laid me down...


To sleep...
after loving you

Written by Nikki Giovanni

...also in response to Angeltoes' post (sorry I didn't notice this in time to include it in my last reply):

http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...10&postcount=1

Props to Kobi for that post there.

Thats 12% accounted for.

Before I jump to any conclusions, I will give you the benefit of the doubt: did you just pack a couple of thoughts in one sentence?

I am referring to: "Maybe the lesbian population is larger than that, but it seems to me that most women are looking for someone to join them and their man in a threeway".

I am figuring you didn't mean lesbians were looking to join a straight couple in a three-way?

In regards to the scarcity of butches, I think that we need to get more creative in finding each other, since they don't generally knock on your door ( unless you invite them over).

Butches will never be a dying breed and neither will femmes; we are the other half of each other in this yin/yang dynamic that our souls need!

I'm kind of torn on this topic.

On one hand, I am overjoyed and proud that so many self-identified butches are speaking up and saying "I'm here! I'm me! and I'm proud!" This is fantastic, encouraging, and all kinds of wonderful for a femme like me.

On the other hand, I'm super bummed because, while I see that there are butches around, I don't see any around me geographically and have yet to find someone who identifies as butch/masculine that is interested in dating me.

Maybe there are just other intersections going on that I don't know about, like age, body type, religion, etc. It's quite possible I'm just not anyone's cup of tea around here.

No matter the reason for my own searching, I'm glad the thread is here and there's so much discussion going on around it. Not being able to see those we are looking for often leads to the question "are they gone?". It makes sense we'd go looking in the most likely place, then: A forum with butches. So now where do we look in our daily lives?

Yeah, I probably didn't make a lot of sense. That post came from a moment when I was feeling pretty down and not thinking clearly. Feel free to disregard the whole thing. To clarify, I am not saying lesbians are looking to join straight couples.

Perhaps?
 

For me, I didn't claim the identity of Butch until I was 40 years old and that's mostly because of the idea that I didn't want to be labeled, and therefore, stereotyped. It wasn't until I attended Butch Voices in 2010 where I learned about some of our history and finally felt like there are others out there whom I could relate to that I proudly embraced the Butch identity.

Where I am in the US (the Pacific Northwest), it seems as thought the younger generation would rather define themselves as Genderqueer these days. I wonder, though, if they knew more about our history whether they would feel the same as I and claim that identity as part of themselves.

Growing up, I didn't have any Butch role models so finding them later in life helped me find that part of me. Does that make sense?

So, what I'm trying to get at is, perhaps there are Butches out there who just haven't come to yet claim their identity. At least that's what I'd like to believe rather then the think about us dying away.

I was pretty darn happy to see several baby butches at the new coffee shop in the library by my house. One is half owner with her father, she is maybe 24or so. I don't believe that Butch is dying, I just think that the younger gen does not use that term much anymore. Kinda like the new 'Steampunk' dressing of the 00's, is actually the old New Wave dressing of the 80's . Same thing, different word.

I think it might also be cultural. I was talking to a Butch friend at home and she does not identify as Butch, she identifies as Dyke. She has been a part of the Community in my home town for over 20 years and said that Butch is not a common term. I was surprised at this as I have not been a part of that community for long, but I have been a part of many others in different areas of the country and Butch is a term that is very much alive and well.

There are many women in that community that I would identify as Butch, but the term Butch is not what they are using to describe themselves.

I would love to do a poll on personal identities and then cross reference to see how many are involved in other communities and whether that influences their personal identity.

I know I am a huge geek, you don't have to tell me.

What a dreadful thought, this thread is freaking me out.

Hurry Quick!
 

Don't freak out!!! There's a few of them at the Winn Dixie right now....:cherry:

Phew, thank goodness for that, I can breathe again!

~ femmes & butch's aren't going anywhere ~ it's not nice to fool Mother Nature ~ :))))