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Hollylane 03-09-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 764347)
I have a question for vaporers who have been doing this a while:

When you smoke a cigarette, you puff/inhale until the cigarette has burned to the butt, or at least I do most of the time. Vaping is different, or has been for me so far. Where I would smoke a full cigarette and feel satisfied for a while, I have experienced an urge to vape one time, but frequently. So, a different pattern is set with the e-cig. I don't know what factors contribute to this. It could be the nicotine level is not high enough. It could be the loss of satisfaction of continually smoking a full cigarette. It could be the lack of other chemicals from cigarettes that contribute to my addiction to nicotine because I do think those other ingredients in cigarettes strengthen your addiction. It may be a combination of all 3.

Does this sound familiar?

:tea:

I vape pretty much all day, it is either in my hand, or next to me if I am awake. I personally feel that despite the level of nicotine that I have in my juice, it is not delivering it to my body in the same manner a cigarette does, and that must be why I use it more often. I have no way of knowing if this is true, but it feels right.

Here's an experience I expected, but didn't expect to have with my mother first (though I should have known better)...

My opinionated mom says to me:

"You probably aren't going to agree with me but...Dad and I were out to dinner the other night, and I saw someone with their electronic cigarette, and they were just waving it around nonchalantly. Like they were rubbing my nose in the fact that they could smoke indoors. I just think that is crass!"

It annoyed me. I love her to death, but mom can annoy me from time to time. So, I said to her...

"Mom, my ecig is helping me not inhale the smoke that can cause me lung cancer. Nothing else has worked. I know that you are happy that I am not smoking, can you not place yourselves in their mother's shoes, and be happy that they found a solution for themselves?"

and Mom says...

"I think it is great that you quit smoking, but you're not planning on "vaping" forever. Are you?"

and I said...

"Mom, I have been smoking since I was 13, this is the only thing that has worked for me. While I may not use nicotine juice for the rest of my life, I may very well continue to vape, if it keeps me from desiring a cigarette.If another person vaping is not having an effect on your health, why do you need to complain about it? Why not be happy for them, or at least be pleased that they will not be a part of the reason our health care costs keep going up? Just think of me, whenever you have that thought."




meridiantoo 03-09-2013 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spritzerJ (Post 764415)

Yes it sounds familiar. When I first started vaping I did so frequently. It took me a long time to work through what felt like enough. Quiet frankly it seemed continuously. It wasn't really but I was like sucking away looking for a feeling that didn't come.

This is exactly what I am experiencing....looking for a feeling that never comes. Not sure what fed/satiated that feeling in the first place. It may not even matter. But, I am glad to hear that phase passes.

Thank you for responding.

Meri :clover:

meridiantoo 03-10-2013 01:29 AM

TSA question/Traveling with e-cigs
 
I will be flying across the U.S. to California in 2 weeks. Does TSA have issues with E-cigs? Or the Liquid? As long as it's checked? Do you guys recommend checked or carry-on with this stuff? And Does California have issues with it?

Thanks for any input.

Meri :clover:

meridiantoo 03-10-2013 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 764523)
I will be flying across the U.S. to California in 2 weeks. Does TSA have issues with E-cigs? Or the Liquid? As long as it's checked? Do you guys recommend checked or carry-on with this stuff? And Does California have issues with it?

Thanks for any input.

Meri :clover:

I answered my own question on the TSA website. In case anyone else is concerned, this is pasted from their website:

"E-Cigarettes are becoming more and more popular and I’m happy to report that TSA has no problem with e-cigs being packed in your carry-on or checked bags. Now as far as using them on a flight, I would suggest you contact your airline and see what they have to say."

"You may transport this item in carry-on baggage or in checked baggage. For items you wish to carry-on, you should check with the airline to ensure that the item will fit in the overhead bin or underneath the seat of the airplane."

meridiantoo 03-10-2013 04:43 PM

Juices become tasteless
 
Do you guys experience lack of taste after while? I'm not sure if it's lack of quality of the juice I am using or that my taste buds become accustomed to the flavor, but unless I just topped off or filled my cartomizer, the juice is pretty much tasteless.

Hollylane 03-10-2013 05:00 PM

I broke into the Dragon's Blood from ECBlends today, I am in vapor-rich heaven...:)

meridiantoo 03-10-2013 11:39 PM

More review stuff of V4L products:
 
I got a 2 battery set with my starter kit. One is manual and one is automatic. I like each for different reasons. The manual allows you to control how much vapor you receive. I like the automatic in that I just pick it up mindlessly and puff without any thought (like while I am working here at my computer). The automatic gives decent vapor, as much as I need or want.

Between the time I place the order and arrival at my front door, the V4L products take 3-4 days. The company is located in IL, I am in GA. So, it's only shipping a few states away. But, it helps that turn-around time is so fast. They ship USPS first class.

I finally know what equipment I have - 808s. If you need one or have a hard time finding one, they have conversion adapters for 510 to 808 or 808 to 510 for about $4 each.

Definitely get a drip tip. Otherwise, you are inhaling from the open end of a cartomizer. Not to mention the excess liquid/juice can potentially leak all over the place.

Happy vaping! :clover:

meridiantoo 03-11-2013 06:25 PM

2 more V4L juice reviews
 
Ordered 2 more juices from V4L and wanted to give feedback on those:

1) Red Energy - tastes exactly like Red Bull energy drink.

2) Plum Crazy - by far my favorite thus far. Not too sweet, very plum-y. Yum!

daisygirl 03-11-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 764833)
Do you guys experience lack of taste after while? I'm not sure if it's lack of quality of the juice I am using or that my taste buds become accustomed to the flavor, but unless I just topped off or filled my cartomizer, the juice is pretty much tasteless.

It's called mudmouth - i mentioned it in a post a few pages back so you probably missed it. Almost everyone goes through this phase. Your taste buds are rebuilding themselves so you'll experience both lack of taste, or a time when anything tastes bad. It happens every so often even with long time vapers. A lot of it could also be the quality of the juice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 765045)
I got a 2 battery set with my starter kit. One is manual and one is automatic. I like each for different reasons. The manual allows you to control how much vapor you receive. I like the automatic in that I just pick it up mindlessly and puff without any thought (like while I am working here at my computer). The automatic gives decent vapor, as much as I need or want.

Between the time I place the order and arrival at my front door, the V4L products take 3-4 days. The company is located in IL, I am in GA. So, it's only shipping a few states away. But, it helps that turn-around time is so fast. They ship USPS first class.

I finally know what equipment I have - 808s. If you need one or have a hard time finding one, they have conversion adapters for 510 to 808 or 808 to 510 for about $4 each.

Definitely get a drip tip. Otherwise, you are inhaling from the open end of a cartomizer. Not to mention the excess liquid/juice can potentially leak all over the place.

Happy vaping! :clover:

#1 When you're not using your automatic you should remove the cartomizer between uses because it will continue a low drain on the battery if it's on there. Manuals should have a 3-5 click on off function. If yours doesn't have this option, again you should leave it without the cartomizer to prevent battery drain.

#2 the 808 does have a converter - most places sell them for about 2-3 bucks, but if you're able to get yours at V4L go ahead and get it there. You'll probably get tired of using converters at some point and get a couple of 510 threaded units :)

#3 your cartomizers come with a plug in the tip - we all used them long before someone thought to use drip tips - you should never vape without the little plug or a drip tip on there, and yes it's easier with a drip tip.

I also wanted to address one thing that really stood out to me in your users' guide. You do NOT want to clean your cartomizers daily. In fact, unless you're trying to change flavors washing a cartomizer will kill it fast. You're also wasting at least 1-1.5ml of juice every time you clean it! I have cartos that still work after months. I don't really use them any more, with the advent of the Ego style batteries and systems, most of us use tanks now.

The biggest use for cartomizers is for "DCTs" which is a dual coil tank. In that system the carto is surrounded by liquid in the tank and drawn up through holes made in the base of the cartomizer and vaped with either that little plug in, or preferably a drip tip. If you tried to clean it, you'd waste even more juice.

Drip tips are fun to buy/collect. There's everything from plain black plastic to fancy blown glass and everything pretty or functional in between :)

I know you're still feeling your way through this. If anyone wants me to write up a more advanced user manual (past the basics) I'd be happy to do it :)

Good luck!

-daisy

meridiantoo 03-11-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisygirl (Post 765709)
It's called mudmouth - i mentioned it in a post a few pages back so you probably missed it. Almost everyone goes through this phase. Your taste buds are rebuilding themselves so you'll experience both lack of taste, or a time when anything tastes bad. It happens every so often even with long time vapers. A lot of it could also be the quality of the juice.

Daisy,

Ahh I did read that post, but I thought it was too soon for me to start experiencing that yet. Ty for telling me!


Quote:

Originally Posted by daisygirl (Post 765709)
#1 When you're not using your automatic you should remove the cartomizer between uses because it will continue a low drain on the battery if it's on there. Manuals should have a 3-5 click on off function. If yours doesn't have this option, again you should leave it without the cartomizer to prevent battery drain.

#2 the 808 does have a converter - most places sell them for about 2-3 bucks, but if you're able to get yours at V4L go ahead and get it there. You'll probably get tired of using converters at some point and get a couple of 510 threaded units :)

#3 your cartomizers come with a plug in the tip - we all used them long before someone thought to use drip tips - you should never vape without the little plug or a drip tip on there, and yes it's easier with a drip tip.

I also wanted to address one thing that really stood out to me in your users' guide. You do NOT want to clean your cartomizers daily. In fact, unless you're trying to change flavors washing a cartomizer will kill it fast. You're also wasting at least 1-1.5ml of juice every time you clean it! I have cartos that still work after months. I don't really use them any more, with the advent of the Ego style batteries and systems, most of us use tanks now.

The biggest use for cartomizers is for "DCTs" which is a dual coil tank. In that system the carto is surrounded by liquid in the tank and drawn up through holes made in the base of the cartomizer and vaped with either that little plug in, or preferably a drip tip. If you tried to clean it, you'd waste even more juice.

Drip tips are fun to buy/collect. There's everything from plain black plastic to fancy blown glass and everything pretty or functional in between :)

I know you're still feeling your way through this. If anyone wants me to write up a more advanced user manual (past the basics) I'd be happy to do it :)

Good luck!

-daisy

Thank you so much for all of this, Daisy. I would personally love an advanced user manual. I am still trying to figure it all out.

Meri :clover:

LaDivina 03-12-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 764537)
I answered my own question on the TSA website. In case anyone else is concerned, this is pasted from their website:

"E-Cigarettes are becoming more and more popular and I’m happy to report that TSA has no problem with e-cigs being packed in your carry-on or checked bags. Now as far as using them on a flight, I would suggest you contact your airline and see what they have to say."

"You may transport this item in carry-on baggage or in checked baggage. For items you wish to carry-on, you should check with the airline to ensure that the item will fit in the overhead bin or underneath the seat of the airplane."

Make sure that if you carry on any juice bottles, that they be less than 3 oz and go in your quart-size bag of liquids. (I put my spare filled tanks in there as well.) We just got back from vacation and did that, and had no problems at all. We didn't try to use them in the plane, though...we didn't want to incur any misplaced wrath from our fellow travelers! :)

LaDivina 03-12-2013 01:15 PM

By the way, our last order from ECBlends was shipped with a freebie bottle of "Buttered Keoke Rum Coffee," which is really good! It steeped for probably 2 weeks before I tried it.

meridiantoo 03-12-2013 05:38 PM

Another random thought on vaping
 
I have noticed the juices at V4L have a stronger tobacco-y/nicotine taste to them that competes with the flavor. At 24mg, you taste both the nicotine and the flavor. At 11mg, you taste a lot more of the flavor. This may be only true of V4L juices; I don't know yet.

:moonstars:

daisygirl 03-13-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 766237)
I have noticed the juices at V4L have a stronger tobacco-y/nicotine taste to them that competes with the flavor. At 24mg, you taste both the nicotine and the flavor. At 11mg, you taste a lot more of the flavor. This may be only true of V4L juices; I don't know yet.

:moonstars:

That's one of the functions of steeping - to reduce any weird tastes in the juice from nicotine. There really shouldn't be a taste, but it does happen. I make my own juice and depending on the source of the nicotine some adds no flavor, some reacts with the ingredients (most common way you end up tasting it) and sometimes it tastes a little peppery. In the last 2 scenarios you'd want to steep it. Either with hot water baths (the fast way) or by just giving everything time to meld and lose the nicotine taste. The best way is time - hot baths can fail, but they can't hurt to try. The higher the nic level, tobacco flavor - the more steeping you'll need. Higher end juices use better nicotine and other ingredients (which is usually why they cost more) but they can still need steeping so don't automatically assume it's juice quality - although if you took a poll among people who started with a vapor company like V4L you'll hear a lot of people say the juice was horrible (not my opinion, just things i've heard!) and at some points not even vapeable :(

GL!

-daisy

PS - you can't steep cartomizers so if you're buying pre-filled - what you have is what you get :(

meridiantoo 03-13-2013 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisygirl (Post 766945)
That's one of the functions of steeping - to reduce any weird tastes in the juice from nicotine. There really shouldn't be a taste, but it does happen. I make my own juice and depending on the source of the nicotine some adds no flavor, some reacts with the ingredients (most common way you end up tasting it) and sometimes it tastes a little peppery. In the last 2 scenarios you'd want to steep it. Either with hot water baths (the fast way) or by just giving everything time to meld and lose the nicotine taste. The best way is time - hot baths can fail, but they can't hurt to try. The higher the nic level, tobacco flavor - the more steeping you'll need. Higher end juices use better nicotine and other ingredients (which is usually why they cost more) but they can still need steeping so don't automatically assume it's juice quality - although if you took a poll among people who started with a vapor company like V4L you'll hear a lot of people say the juice was horrible (not my opinion, just things i've heard!) and at some points not even vapeable :(


GL!

-daisy

PS - you can't steep cartomizers so if you're buying pre-filled - what you have is what you get :(

Daisy ~

I will try the hot bath method and see if that works, remembering to put tape over the labels so they don't come off. I will be ordering from either or both HHV or/and Alice in Vapeland when I return from vacation. I will have to make these do for now - hopefully, some steeping will improve the ones with the higher nicotine levels. Honestly, the taste of smoking tastes so bad, even the very nicotine-tasting juices are better than ashtray mouth :cigar:

Thanks for your help again, Daisy!

Meri

:moonstars:

Hollylane 03-14-2013 10:05 PM

Alice has delivered, and I now have to wait to travel down the rabbit hole(wait out the steeping process) :|

Besides my two 50ml glass bottles (Black & White Cookie, and A Quiet Morning...both delicious on the drop test), with eye droppers and adorable little trinkets attached to their necks, they sent 5 samples, of which the Lemon Loves Cake is the most fabulous...

The packaging was just as amazing as Medusa's...

Loren_Q 03-15-2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 767490)
Alice has delivered, and I now have to wait to travel down the rabbit hole(wait out the steeping process) :|

Besides my two 50ml glass bottles (Black & White Cookie, and A Quiet Morning...both delicious on the drop test), with eye droppers and adorable little trinkets attached to their necks, they sent 5 samples, of which the Lemon Loves Cake is the most fabulous...

The packaging was just as amazing as Medusa's...

Hmmm... I ordered the same week you did and haven't gotten mine yet.

meridiantoo 03-15-2013 12:58 PM

V4L battery info
 
I just wanted to give some info on the batteries I purchased from Vapor4Life. I seem to use the automatic battery more. If I keep it attached to a cartomizer for the whole day, meaning I am using it all day, then the battery life is about 12 hours. It recharges in about 4 hours. The manual battery lasts about a day and a half and takes about the same amount of time to recharge. Both batteries are VK classic models.

:clover:

uncommondialogue 03-15-2013 01:04 PM

Totally Wicked Tornado Tank Review
 
I have been watching a lot of different sites for vaping and I am so glad I purchased the Totally Wicked Tornado Tank. It has great reviews. I got a wee bit confused about dripping while reading this site. I guess because with this system it is an automatic dripping system...no need for the mess of carrying around juices, etc. Thought I would post this system for others to take a peek at. I love it!
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...o+tank+reviews

Hollylane 03-15-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren_Q (Post 767716)
Hmmm... I ordered the same week you did and haven't gotten mine yet.

Might be a few days behind mine. It sometimes takes them several days to work the same day's orders. At least that is what I saw happening from their tweets.


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