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I learn and have my most profound "aha" moments through personal stories and interaction. Those interactions can happen online, over the phone or in person. Thanks for the awesome dialogue everyone and Snow for starting it all off.. |
I'm jumping into this thread way way late, but I want to chime in on the original June Cleaver question.
I don't feel any sort of femme connection with Junie at all. She was unendingly dull because the only role she had was to facilitate the happenings in other people's lives. My memory may be blurry, but I don't recollect June ever doing anything interesting EVER. I mean, really, even Barbie went to the moon and became a veterinarian. Plus June dressed EXACTLY like every single other girl on the block, and my flavor of femminess expresses itself through the way I doll up. I'm a girlygirl, but I certainly don't want to dress in standard girlygirl uniform. I respect the value of taking care of others that June embodied, but we can certainly take good care of our loved ones while being vibrant femmes in our own right. |
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This was one of the best threads on the site. i’ve enjoyed re-reading it.
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i totally resonate with this post. i don’t think that butches realize, that even when they do this in the spirit of a harmless fantasy, that it causes some of us femmes to feel separated and angry as we have fought to shine in our femme uniqueness.We fight to be seen as FEMME, not a hetero feminine woman. It isn’t about jealousy, it’s about feeling that we belong in this community. One thing that we have is that butches are attracted to us. If they desire straight (heater) women, we wonder where we really fit in. If i were to come up with a list of people i am sexually attracted to, not one straight man or woman would come to mind. |
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I've been referred to by STRAIGHT woman as June Clever ~ maybe to them I seemed that way ~ wasn't about the way I dressed cause I dressed very different ~ it was because I tended to my family and they along w/ my wife came first in my life and priority ~ The woman that did the June Clever reference were also drinking drug abusing mothers who had a lot to be ashamed of. I always took it where it came from. Aside from the 50's garb June wore the fact she cared for her family & children was always respectful way of looking at a parent.
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did it piss you the hell OFF being referred to as a straight woman? Why can’t femme be a gender in the real world! ? |
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Particularly the ideas I highlighted with bold font in Jo's post. <<<<<~~ Quiet, reserved, soft, polite, yet absolutely in charge of my own life. |
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i still wear my P-Town rainbow fleece! i don’t want to go through life as an invisible femme or being compared to straight women! |
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