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Arizona Elementary School Will Whiten The Faces Of Its Own Students On A Mural Because Some Racists Yelled At It [UPDATE]
Jason Linkins HuffPost Reporting UPDATE: Good news. The gutless, carbound racists lost, and the mural is being restored to its "original theme." Jeff Lane, the principal of Miller Valley Elementary School, and Kevin Kapp, the school superintendent, showed up at a protest today to apologize for giving in to whims of mentally deranged adults, spewing racial epithets at a painting: I am not a racist individual, but I will tell you depicting a black guy in the middle of that mural, based upon who's President of the United States today and based upon the history of this community, when I grew up we had four black families - who I have been very good friends with for years - to depict the biggest picture on that building as a black person, I would have to ask the question, 'Why?' Yes. WHY DID SOMEONE PUT A BLACK PERSON ON A PAINTING? You "have" to "ask" the "question!" Anyway, Steve Blair lost too, and I am delighted. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_601436.html |
I believe there must be SOME connection between AZ's SB 2010 (are those the numbers?) and BP's oil spill.........
I'm pretty sure of it. |
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How about oil rig worker jobs are high paying and mostly held by skilled, white males.... yanno. The ones that don't seem to want the low pay, crop picking ones that mega-bucks argricultural corporations offer migrant workers. Just the legal, ones, of course... they never bring undocumented workers over the borders in the back of trucks like they were cattle. But! BP did hire unskilled workers, mostly Latino to clean LA beaches during Obama's prior visit to LA. Only on a temporary basis, however, they were there only while the President was, haven't been back. Rumor has it that they were not even LA residents just like the private security companies BP hired to keep the press off the beaches and await from the marshes. Yanno, the public beaches in which during a time of emergency, the state of LA would have full control over... Freaking BP couldn't even pay local unemployed residents to do their scams with! As if there are not a ton of people there right now unable to fish! Oh, then there is the millions BP has put into ads to tell people how much they are going to do in the clean-up…. How's that? Kind of a stretch, but the only things I could come up with... |
Here you go HSIN:
Arizona school sorry for wanting lighter kids' faces on mural maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...faces-on-mural By the way, Maddows FB page has some interesting comments on this story, including this one: Christopher John Cuthbertson "Stick to the gulf issue Maddow, not nonsense like this !" |
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The thing I want to know is how bad does it have to get before people stop saying that ANY opposition to racist laws, actions or people is 'playing the race card'? It seems that 'playing the race card' applies to any such opposition for 20 or 30 years after the incident. So right now, we are FINALLY far enough removed from the civil rights movement that it is no longer playing the race card. "Making trouble" = "being uppity" = "creating racial tension" = "playing the race card" |
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Yes, how long? And it makes me crazy to hear ... I have friends that are ____________ (fill in the blank). La-De-Fucking Da!! So very much is being lost because of the acting-out of having our first African American president. It is not lost on me that Obama continues to refuse to do anything in which whites can say ... see, he's just another angry black man... The stuff around his not displaying emotion about the Gulf spill is indicative of this. He ran the entire campaign with this on his mind.... |
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I knew that with the financial crisis and recession, we would see an upsurg in bold racist statements, actions, etc. along with obama being elected. But, whoa... |
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If my Spock-like demeanor is ever frustrating to you, just remember the above paragraph. My entire professional and much of my personal life has been built-on and predicated upon having very close control of (and awareness of so I *CAN* control) my emotions. My career would come to a sudden and crashing halt if I developed a reputation as the 'angry, black lesbian'. If I let my emotions out to play in casual company I wouldn't be where I am today and I wouldn't be where I'm headed tomorrow. I know that. In fact, when I am in a long-term relationship with a white woman (as I am now) one thing I will let her know, fairly early on, is that there is a shell that I wear that is almost always on in public. It's not conscious and has its own momentum at this point. It's so ingrained, in fact...well, let me tell you a short anecdote. In my first job in the computer industry, back in 1994, I ended up at IGC Networks (PeaceNet, EcoNet, LaborNet, WomensNet). As a non-profit on the side of the angels, I was NOT the only black woman at the organization--although I was the only black woman working in tech. One day Deborah, Tracy and I (the three black women) were sitting in what passed as our lunch room. Deborah was telling us one of her stories and because it was just us there, we all let our language slip into the vernacular. This guy George came into the lunchroom and, in mid-sentence Deborah code-switched and dropped back into very precise diction and grammar. We followed her without missing a beat and still laughed at the joke. George, because he was a very hip, liberal guy who had really done some anti-racism work, recognized what had happened and said something about it, being very apologetic that he had interrupted. Deborah looked at him and said "It's cool, George. We know you're down. But this isn't something we can help, it just happens. There's a voice for when it's just black folks and there's a voice for when white folks come in the room. The only reason any of us work here is because switching between the two is second nature." I get Obama. He can't afford to have his emotions show for the same reason that Condi Rice can't, or Colin Powell, or Eric Holder or myself--in fact, Oprah is the only black person of that kind of stature who *can* let her emotions out and then, only *certain* emotions. If you want to know how important this is, you need look no further than one Alan Keyes. He says all the right conservative things, he shows up at all the right conservative people, he has disowned his lesbian daughter to burnish his conservative cred but he's too emotional in public. All the difference in the world. Cheers Aj |
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Oh, I get what you are saying, Aj. I just feel sad that anyone has to do so much personal holding back due to race. It happens with ethnicity, too, which I believe robs people of identity. Then, again.... that's racism! Also, there is just the stereotypes of race and ethnicity around anger and emotional venting, overall and the hierarchy of what is better than. Oh, yes, I bet you deal with the angry black lesbian stuff all of the time, especially in academia. I remember being very nervous with dissertatation committee members viewing me as having a Latin temperament within their ivory towers. And they simply held power me. |
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A can of worms that needs to be opened- our border patrol shooting children? |
Arizona's Next Immigration Target: Children of Illegals
Buoyed by recent public opinion polls suggesting they're on the right track with illegal immigration, Arizona Republicans will likely introduce legislation this fall that would deny birth certificates to children born in Arizona — and thus American citizens according to the U.S. Constitution — to parents who are not legal U.S. citizens. The law largely is the brainchild of state senator Russell Pearce, a Republican whose suburban district, Mesa, is considered the conservative bastion of the Phoenix political scene. He is a leading architect of the Arizona law that sparked outrage throughout the country: Senate Bill 1070, which allows law-enforcement officers to ask about someone's immigration status during a traffic stop, detainment or arrest if reasonable suspicion exists — things like poor English skills, acting nervous or avoiding eye contact during a traffic stop. Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0qqes37tY |
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Frankly, if this were to be passed, I think it is grounds for charges of treason against Arizona. And that would be the point I'll be making to my congressional representatives as a US citizen! So much of this is not only grounded in anti-Mexican sentiments, but so much a part of the birther mentality about Obama. This is so nuts!! Where is the nation-wide outrage? Oh, that's right, a hell of a lot of people are just trying to manage financially during the biggest recession since the Great Depression (many trying to re-train, which takes bucks to do) and we are watching The Gulf region change for all time which will end up with more economic hardship for every citizen in the US. When things are tough economically for people, these kinds of anti-immigration sentiments are rampant, historically. Fighting anything but trying to survive gets very difficult and is a prime target for weakness and pushing through this kind of lunatic and bigoted legislation. You know, I honestly believe that a mass demonstration in AZ from people across the nation fed up with this stuff - enough for a half million porta-potties to be needed is what has to happen! There is great power in porta-potty demonstrations!! Tend to wake people up! Numbers matter!! Porta-Potty Revolution NOW!!! |
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Oh, #1 and #2...now I get it. It's a potty joke!!!!! |
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ROLF! They are a bunch, that is for sure! I just had to do the porta-potty thing because of how the numbers needed for events are calculated. Yanno.... that would be a big crowd with a half million porta potties calculated at hourly usage needed! Would be in the millions!!! Think of a demonstration that large!!! Hummm... damn my son for being in the waste (solid, liquid, recycling, you name it)business.... |
As I thought about this new event and was reading this, I couldn't help but be struck by the irony of today. My company's lawyers filed for my H1-B petition, the precursor towards a green card and potential citizenship. To me, I feel like I'm do not deserve this compared to all those families, kids, friends, etc., who came here truly in search of freedom. Freedom from fear of being attacked by cartels, of potential no hope, and a variety of other things that depress the hopes of individuals.
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It is, to me, short-sighted to blame the ills of a city, state or nation on a single factor. There is too much intertwining going on in the world today. Children born in the US should be, by all rights, American citizens (as per Amendment 14, clause #1). Quote:
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I've heard rumor that MN Rep Michele Bachmann is an anchor baby. Can we send her back first?
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If the Federal Government doesn't take on this, then it will just be one more thing to be disappointed about Obama and his administration. We have a saying here, it goes something like: Too much (insert ice cream truck music) not enough ice cream. That is how I see the Obama years so far. Quote:
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We could only be so lucky, lol to send her back! [/QUOTE] Well, we are jesting here, and I so get it, but, get really upset with anti-anchor baby stuff that I don't want anyone in the US sent anywhere via this trash. But, I sure can think of a few places I would love to send this woman! But, you all have a point!! You ever think about her as a GOP Presidential or VP candidate... or better yet.... Liz Cheny! I really think she might be a GOP candidate in 2012... ARGH.... You were just joshing, huh? |
Steve King Suggests Illegal Immigrants Can Be Spotted By Their Shoes Or A "Sixth Sense" |
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Now, I don't think that any such law will see the light of day. The Constitution is *very* explicit on this matter and while most people don't realize *why* the 14th Amendment exists, there are those of us who are beneficiaries of that amendment who recognize precisely why it exists. (For those who don't, at the end of the Civil War, the status of black Americans was up for grabs. Up until that point, we were not considered citizens in a full legal sense. The 14th Amendment was passed to get around what the Southern states *wanted* to happen which was that black citizens would not be considered citizens of the United States. So the 14th was passed to make it clear that American citizenship automatically adheres to anyone born here. Forgive me for being so blunt but I do not trust the majority enough to see that Amendment repealed or even substantially changed. ) I understand the strategy the Republicans are trying. In the short run (2010 - 2012) it *might* pay off although I think it's a long-odds gamble. Past 2016 they will rue the day they decided that stoking racial resentment was the path to electoral glory. Cheers Aj |
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You bring up a really good point--the *real* problems America are facing aren't really related to immigration. Compared to the effects of letting our education system falter and turning our backs on science, they are trivial. Compared to allowing American corporations to move their headquarters off-shore to avoid paying corporate taxes or moving jobs overseas, immigration just fades into the background. Compared to a trillion dollar defense budget all the social services *combined* do not even begin to compete for the amount of weight they have on the economy. But improving the education system is a long-term project and will require more money with the payoff being intangible, so we don't want to do that. Passing laws that reward good business behavior and punish bad business behavior are difficult so we don't want to do that heavy lifting either. Cutting back our defense spending by, say, half gores way too many sacred cows. Immigrants are easy. They are nice slow-moving target and have the added virtue of large numbers of immigrants looking substantially different than the majority so blaming them is the path we've chosen in this country. Why do the hard thing that will require courage, sacrifice and will when there's a ready-made scapegoat right at hand? Yes, it's cynical but that doesn't mean it's wrong. Cheers Aj Quote:
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And out comes the more obvious racist nature of the Arizona law. This law isn't about legal versus not "legal" immigrants. It's about the colour of the state of Arizona. With an aging white boomer population that has more conservative leanings, I'd imagine this holds well with many of them.
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It is easy to say we shouldnt deal with immigration issues because there are other more pressing problems affecting the country. Unfortunately, we use this excuse to avoid dealing with many issues because no one wants to be seen as the bad guy about any issue. Illegal immigrations costs us taxpayers billions and billions a year in services i.e. education and health care plus immigration costs of housing illegals awaiting deportation hearings and providing them with legal representation to name just a few. With the downturn in the economy and Americans struggling to find work, my allegiance is with the people who belong here, not with those who deliberately circumvented the laws because they wanted to do so. That type of selfish, self serving behavior is insulting. One can only wonder what these people might be able to achieve if they put their energy to work in changing the conditions in their own countries rather than invading others. |
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The problem I have is that this law has no distinction between law abiding American Latinos and American Native peoples and immeragrents who have come here seeking jobs that most Americans won't do. It is racist and is racial profiling at it's worst. Any one who isn't lilly white will be subject to this unreasonable search and seizure law. It is basic discrimination, cloaked in states rights. It is unjust, unfair, and totally unreasonable.
I do think we need to do the hard work of reform, but not at the risk of American citizens being jailed for not having their birth certificates on them. All American citizens have the bill of rights to use, their 5th amendment right of self incrimination, but they shouldn't have to use this as they have every right to be here, they are US. |
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My allegiance is with a people who are being pegged and have a fucking spot light shown on them now because of their color. I can't believe how you think that these human being are taking the jobs of hard working American's who are out there competing for them.. You need to look around more Kobi you fucking seriously do... PS When my momma came over here all illegal and shit, she did not cheat ANYONE out of the maids job she got... |
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i'm not in the sort of mood to educate today, so you'll just have to trust me:
your (gonadal?!) statement is both misguided and illogical; a stupid and an overtly simplistic, racist view of our history of scapegoating (pick your brown person and odds are you'll come up with someone whos people are/have been disenfranchised) and continues to go on (scapegoating works!) in this state (AZ) and in pockets of shit-hole towns throughout this (USA) country. so if you know a racist that needs a job, that thinks a mexican took his/her job, i have just the thing for you: http://www.takeourjobs.org/ please educate yourself. or don't. Quote:
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Hey Kobi!!!
What is important to recognize from the article you posted is that the study includes the social impact that undocumented workers kids have on the system but what Camarotas' study doesnt include is the impact their future contributuions will make on our society. Camarotas number one concern back in 2004 was to make these numbers as big as he could. The article is bogus and not a good measure for reform because it is so slanted. Grant Quote:
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And I need to add the numbers of white, middle and upper middle-class LDS polygamous offshoot people with dozens of children on welfare!! Take a gander at how much taxpayer money goes to these people! And the men that have fathered all of these kids are only financially responsible for those within the marriage that is legally recognized. I get really ticked with the BS advocated about immigrant (yes, illegal) social service and education taking from US citizens. Not to mention corporate welfare in the US!! The fact of the matter is, big Agriculture (and service industry) businesses have been bringing in illegal’s to work at shit wages for decades and is the culprit with how many illegal’s are here. Frankly, they should be footing the bills for illegal’s here. And citizenship should be moved along for these people so that they are part of the tax base and can live here and prosper and see their children have education and opportunity. And please universe, get Latino [populations especially registered to vote en masse! This is the fastest growing population in the US today and they need some political clout! The taking our jobs argument is just plain incorrect! Yes, educate yourself and stop knee-jerk talking-point responses!! Get the damn facts! |
It is always amusing how if you dont not ascribe to the knee jerk bleeding heart liberal stance , one is subject to ridicule and rudeness. Im used to it here.
It does not diminsh the fact that illegal workers diminish the wages of Americans....why pay more for American workers when we can go get illegal day laborers for a mere fraction of a living wage. It also undermines our overall standard of living. But, why focus on those facts when we can resort to how Americans dont want to do real labor. Funny, how our economy is in the tank and I see more Americans doing landscaping and general labor work this year then ever. A job is a job, and our priority should be to citizens and those here legally. Companies can use H2 visas and get workers here legally to do "scut work". One does not have to resort to illegal people. But, as I said, it is easier for knee jerk liberals to be profane and rude then to inject any rhyme or reason into the situation. Preying on emotions rather than facts is sad but customary. |
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I was rude, I will continue to be rude as long as people come in here with their bullshit about how we take ya'lls jobs.. It's clear Kobi, I don't see no white folks out in the fields picking your pack of peppers... Like I said look around out of your white zone once in a while... |
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