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AtLast 03-09-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 63902)
This invisablity i'm speaking about is simply not finding a place to belong in the queer world I live in.Even as little as five years ago it wasnt this way,I knew many folks of diffrent ages and then age wasnt a facrtor in anything..not so with the new group that has come along.For one thay are either tweeners or andros or questioning ...cetanly the people who were even close to my age have either broken up and left town or gone underground,the fue I do see hear and there simply dont acknowledge other gay people when we meet in public..not everyone, but the majority.It has become a place of terratorial(sp?) boundries in every bar we have hear.If anyone is over a certan age its like u r in a void,I thought it was just where I live but i'm finding it's other places as well.I was talking to friends of mine who live in another city and they are finding the same prob where thay live.Looks l,ike if u r older u are to old to belong anywhere.

UGH! This sux!

I feel very fortunate that I am a butch queer living where I do.. about 20 minutes from SF. The lesbian, B-F, Trans, Gay communities are very representative of older folks (guess middle-aged on up is a better way to put it).

I believe you are having this problem where you live and wish it wasn't so.

AtLast 03-09-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isadora (Post 63857)

No, it is not part of the reunion...
The Femme Collective proudly announces:
FEMME2010: No Restrictions
August 20--22nd
Oakland Marriott City Center
Oakland, CA

UGH, it is at the same time as the BFP ReUnion! I want to go to little Rock, but, have wanted to attend a femme conference as an ally (and volunteer) for a long time. Oh well, I may not have the $ to go to Little Rock and this is way close by!!

:sunglass:

Rockinonahigh 03-09-2010 09:55 PM

ALH..Yes u are definatly right on the money,most of whats hear is college kids.Near every college has a gsa,we have a pflag that meets once a month but dosent do anything but have a coffee and donut meeting,there is something called pace, but its geared up for the high end folks and to get in u pay a pricy membership fee,plus anything they do in activities cost from 50 to a 100 bucks to go to but even they arent too active.
I was planing on going to visit a fue places to find a more queer place to live,but as long as my back is like it is that wont happen,tho I do keep hopeing for the best to happen.Now if I took out the bf and stone butch equasion and became a guarden variaty lesbian ..would it make a diffrents..I just done know.I just know I cant chang who I am to please other people.

AtLast 03-09-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 63997)
ALH..Yes u are definatly right on the money,most of whats hear is college kids.Near every college has a gsa,we have a pflag that meets once a month but dosent do anything but have a coffee and donut meeting,there is something called pace, but its geared up for the high end folks and to get in u pay a pricy membership fee,plus anything they do in activities cost from 50 to a 100 bucks to go to but even they arent too active.
I was planing on going to visit a fue places to find a more queer place to live,but as long as my back is like it is that wont happen,tho I do keep hopeing for the best to happen.Now if I took out the bf and stone butch equasion and became a guarden variaty lesbian ..would it make a diffrents..I just done know.I just know I cant chang who I am to please other people.


This just not good! I say move here!!!

Something weird with me though, is that I keep thinking of moving because of having a hell of a time with arthritis and living where I do (dampness). But, I have to say that when I read posts like yours and by others that just live in areas that are really very constraining (in age as well as queer populations, etc.), I think think again. Also, my friends would be hard to leave.

I also give just getting older a lot of thought in terms of ever being stuck in some straight old age home! My son has heard a lot about this! Poor guy...

morningstar55 03-10-2010 06:39 AM

morning Loft dwellers

reading all this talk about moving to a better queer oriented place..... well...
i do know...... Dallas TX believe it or not has a awsome queer community, and the area where all the action is......... lol i like to call it gay town. one thing i miss about there. is gay bingo.. lol they have it once a month around the weekend of the 19th. now thats a fun event.
Its worth checking out....
wonder if you can google best queer places to live??? hmmm might try it.
im home for a change........ wooHOoo.....
have to go to the DMV ..... and tax place....
enjoyed a nice lil stroll thru the super market with my daughter last night.. who was just yacking my head off .. LOL ..
it was nice..... and since im the only truck here from my company , i know i wont be here long once i go bk into service
. *sigh*

Daktari 03-10-2010 07:23 AM

Good Afternoon Lofters :chaplin:

I hope everyone is having a great day with laughter and smiles aplenty.

Apropos my last posts, I am pleased to report that my anxiety about the cortisone shots in my shoulder were unfounded :clap: ...it only caused mild discomfort for a very short time and I had a very jolly visit with the delightful lady doctor. I'm not in unusual pain today and have high hopes for some pain-free months - watch this space. There was bad news about my neck but I guess one can't have it all

It's a gorgeous day and I'm about to tootle off out to get the tailor to fix up my newest suit so that it fits like a glove.

ta ta for now lofters :D

morningstar55 03-10-2010 02:10 PM

afternooners Lofters........ are having a nice hump day??
i know i am ..... heh
m aking meatloaf with red skin mashed taters and steamed broccli for dinner.... :)


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Rockinonahigh 03-10-2010 03:06 PM

Morning star..Dinner sounds great to me,i'm haveing chickin and dumplins with home made bread...to sop it up with.yeah I know,reall countyfried...but thats me 100%.

Incubus..glad the shot was easy on ya,I have herd both good and bad about how much it hurt to get them.

ALH...Being Dallas is only three hours a way from me I am going to tale a weekend a month or every other month and go for a long weekend.Who knows what will happen or not..with the new air service I can go to Austin as well.It's not like moveing but will be ok.

Today I joined a health club,it's got all kinds of really neet new equipment.I was looking at all the exersise equipment I have and boy do I ever need an up grade cause the stuff is geting old and well used.With my senior didcount I got full use of everything for $35.00 a month..it's compareable to golds gym.

Jet 03-10-2010 06:42 PM

Just finished dinner and sayin hey.
Off to a work out.
All have a good one.

Sunny 03-10-2010 11:08 PM

How is Everyone????
 
Hey A belated Happpppyyyyyy Birthdayyyyy to Christie......You get better with every year!!!!!

Sorry to hear we have alot of people in pain. I had 2 slipped dics removed when I was 12. It was very traumatic and painful. I made a full recovery and was able to lead a normal life. Nothing like back pain. I had alot of crushes on the nurses though. LOL When I was in the Hospital I would put their soaps on so they would all come into my:flying: room and keep me company. LOL

Morning I hope you are feeling better by now. Ice is the best thing when first injured.

Also I am interested in the bargains you found at Costco. I work for them. People seem to go crazy when shopping with us. LOL

Anyway have a great night everyone....sleep well Sunny:flying:

morningstar55 03-11-2010 05:13 AM

heyyYY morning Lofters.......
hey there Sunny..... hadnt seen u around in a while..
in a lil bit here i head to my truck and get things ready for heading bk on a load...... dont have one yet... but im the only truck here from my company so i know i wont be hangin here long.. ha..
last night, had some self satisfaction from meeting up with someone to donate a piece of my art, for a big benifet the gay community in Buffalo is having for a girl whom was stabed in the eye , a victim of a hate crime, it was all over the news here a few months ago.


http://www.towleroad.com/2010/01/buf...++%23gay+news)

cinderella 03-11-2010 05:21 AM

Well, not sure if I fit into this group...I turned 67 this past December. Let me know if I'm an OK participant, or if I need to open an 'Ancient Group' (60's and beyond...) thread.

Daktari 03-11-2010 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 64743)
Well, not sure if I fit into this group...I turned 67 this past December. Let me know if I'm an OK participant, or if I need to open an 'Ancient Group' (60's and beyond...) thread.

I'm sure you're an 'OK participant' and do 'fit in' in here cinderella, no such thing as too old.


Welcome to the Loft :chaplin:


Good morning assorted Lofters...busy day today and joy of joys my girl will be here tonight for the start of a couple of weeks together :groucho:

miss entycing 03-11-2010 07:26 AM

Good morning Lofters
:cheer:

another dreary overcase day here in the Carolinas... and it had been so lovely till yesterday...... anyways, taking mama to lunch today and maybe a little shopping afterwards-
tho I hate to shop, my mama lovesssssssss spendin' money!
:giggle:

Hope y'all have a deliciously decadent day today with lots of smiles!
:happyjump:

Soft*Silver 03-11-2010 12:34 PM

I just want to add that Youngstown, Ohio has a great LGBT community, and while small, is very active. I have been out in all my jobs here. My mobile home park has other openly gay people living here. And we have all 4 seasons. While I would love a longer growing season (I am an avid gardener) I cant give up my fall and winter. Cleveland and Akron and Pittsburgh are a short drive away. And our housing is so cheap! I am buying a house for $10,000. Can you beat that where you live?

morningstar55 03-12-2010 09:42 AM

morning lofters

wow its friday already......and i just got a load sent to me to go pick up that will have me end up 83 miles from home...... hmmmmmmmm what should i do ?? lol

miss entycing 03-12-2010 10:11 AM

Mornin' Lofters...
hope y'all are doing ok

been 3 days of dreary, foggy and rainy! Some sunshine would be right nice-
:4femme:
save me!
:whine:

Wryly 03-12-2010 10:38 AM

Hey Lofters!

MS - a weekend at home sounds like fun! Second visit in a week!

Well - I'm almost over this cold. Still a bit of problem with the sinus and a slight cough - - but I feel so much better. Going to go out today - maybe get a haircut or see a movie - take a nice long walk.

Was hoping to take some pics today but it is too overcast.


morningstar55 03-12-2010 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wryly (Post 65531)
Hey Lofters!

MS - a weekend at home sounds like fun! Second visit in a week!

Well - I'm almost over this cold. Still a bit of problem with the sinus and a slight cough - - but I feel so much better. Going to go out today - maybe get a haircut or see a movie - take a nice long walk.

Was hoping to take some pics today but it is too overcast.



.. haha .. dont you know it......... annnnnnnnnnnd fun part is
there are some St Patty day parties going on around town... wooHOO.im half irish soo its always kinda fun.. lol lol


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WfkDySPdHs"]YouTube- Irish Songs Mix[/ame]

AtLast 03-12-2010 11:55 AM

Morning, Lofters!

Hoping it stops raining so that I can finish a storage shed I am building. I'm slow as it is, so this seems to be taking forever!!!

Going to make some home made soup today. Hits the spot during winter. My weekend will just be spent at home with chores and my fur-kids. Was hoping my son would be around with the Granddaughters, but not this weekend. Phooey! Miss them!

Thinking about auctioning myself off.... :floatbee:

Jet 03-12-2010 12:31 PM

Flying by to say hey. have a good one all.

Daktari 03-12-2010 01:58 PM

Evening Lofters. I hope everyone is having a frolicsome day with laughter and love along the way.

I'm on the opposite coast of the UK as of today, spending some time with the delectable Mrs.I - when she's not teaching, or studying or writing essays. :flyingweed:

Jaques 03-13-2010 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 64743)
Well, not sure if I fit into this group...I turned 67 this past December. Let me know if I'm an OK participant, or if I need to open an 'Ancient Group' (60's and beyond...) thread.

OK, when you get to 70, you can start up a "coffin dodgers" thread:seesaw:

morningstar55 03-13-2010 08:01 AM

mawning Lofters
looks like a Tim Hortons morning to me......
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...0923080717.jpg

top of the morning to u . Mr Jaques hope your having a fine saturday so far....
glad to see you here.... Cindy,rella ..heh..
Incubusters....... hope you and the Mrs. has a pleasant weekend.

DELSDAUGHTER 03-13-2010 08:40 AM

happy saturday morning to all the lofters....sorry i havent been on in a while....busy busy busy.....

plus its idol season..lol

well my kid is driving cross country with he three frends...so here hoping that they all arrive safe

yesterday she told me mom its crazy windy in arkansas
and then i saw on the news there was a tornado that touched down....eeeek

Jaques 03-13-2010 11:34 AM

good morning, or rather afternoon now here morning star and everyone - yes ive had a good day working on the garden, the spring daffodils are poking through the soil and its beginning to warm up after all the cold and snow we had, i live by the sea, so its lovely to see the sun glinting on the water in the distance..............

FR 03-13-2010 12:58 PM

hi guys im putting this in several threads if u are disabled or older or us supplements this is important-ty


http://www.care2.com/causes/health-p...ealth-freedom/

Sunny 03-13-2010 11:52 PM

Goooood Evening
 
Hey Morning that breakfast looks very good...... Hope you are having a fine day. Thanks for the Irish songs. I have Irish also in my background. Actually do not know who my Grandfather was so I could be almost anything. LOL

Cinderella, Age is all in the mind. You are most welcome here. Have you ever found your Prince?????

Ol' Jet, That is some collage of pics you put together. I bet you have the Femmes eating that up. LOL

I am off Sunday. I will have a relaxing day at home. Maybe make some eggplant parm. Have a grrrrrreat day everyone. Sunny:sailing:

Soft*Silver 03-13-2010 11:59 PM

hello Lofters...am feeling a bit under the weather. I ran out of my ulcer and hiatal hernia meds and oh...not feeling so well tummy wise..but along I go through the day into the next when I can go get my meds again! Dont you hate it how reliant we are on meds as we age? I remember thinking I was made out of cast iron. Probably was but I put enough alcohol in me early onto turn myself into a rusty tin! (smiling softly)good thing I got into recovery or you would have had to put me in the scrap pile!

On the other side of my emotions, is excitement. Tomorrow I am picking up the waterfall vanity and bed my sister bought me for my new house. I cant wait to have all my make up and jewelry in the same area, an area dedicated just for them. A dream come true!

I hope your weekend is good...and that the rains I am hearing about didnt do any damage where you are!

Jet 03-14-2010 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny (Post 66570)

Ol' Jet, That is some collage of pics you put together. I bet you have the Femmes eating that up. LOL

You'd be surprised, but thanks anyway Sunny. have a good weekend.

Princess4u 03-14-2010 02:40 AM

No my dear friend I think YOU would be suprised....and remember....I am the boss and I know best LOL!! smooches dearest one!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 66578)
You'd be surprised, but thanks anyway Sunny. have a good weekend.


Jaques 03-14-2010 02:54 AM

[QUOTE=softness;66571][I][COLOR="DarkRed"]hello Lofters...am feeling a bit under the weather. I ran out of my ulcer and hiatal hernia meds and oh...not feeling so well tummy wise......

I have a hiatal hernia and gerd problems and the meds i was on for yrs made it worse, until i tried apple cider vinegar, bicarb & spring water (not tap), 3 times a day, it works and its very good for anyone with athritis/skin problems as it regulates your acidity ph levels............anyone interested google Earthclinic.com..........

Soft*Silver 03-14-2010 04:27 AM

I wonder if this is why I crave apples when I dont have those meds....thanks for the tip..I will try it...

[QUOTE=Jaques;66599
I have a hiatal hernia and gerd problems and the meds i was on for yrs made it worse, until i tried apple cider vinegar, bicarb & spring water (not tap), 3 times a day, it works and its very good for anyone with athritis/skin problems as it regulates your acidity ph levels............anyone interested google Earthclinic.com..........[/QUOTE]

Daktari 03-14-2010 04:38 AM

A very good morning to all Lofters :chaplin:

I hope everyone has a wonderful day doing what they want with the folks they want to do it with.

Commiserations to those feeling poorly I hope you're feeling better soon.

It's a sunny Sunday here and Mrs.I is engrossed in an assignment that has to be handed in tomorrow and preparing for a presentation tomorrow too poor lass. That leaves me to catch up with my reading and get out for a walk in the sunshine. I also forsee a movie night coming up, I have some fantastic dvds of films I've not seen for a very long time and am looking forward to seeing with new eyes, eg Barry Lyndon and the Last Emperor

Jaques 03-14-2010 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by softness (Post 66633)
I wonder if this is why I crave apples when I dont have those meds....thanks for the tip..I will try it...

I have 2 tablespoons of acv, with l/4 teaspoon bicarb soda mixed with a glass of spring water on empty stomach, dont eat for an hr after taking acv nor take it for 3 hrs after eating, so you can fit it in with your meals............i also find cutting back on red meat, booze, bread or anything with lactose, milk etc helps, eating lots of fresh veg & fruit - but try not to eat fruit with anything else because it only takes half an hr to digest and if you have a meal which can take anything from 3 - 12 hrs to digest, depending on what you have eaten, the fruit sits on top of that fermenting, which is why you make lots of acid and people often say "oh, i cant eat fruit" - they can but on its own...........i am no expert but since l994 i have studies diet and tried things out, so i can only speak from my own experiences

morningstar55 03-14-2010 06:46 AM

good morning Lofters

wow all this talk about meds and tummy stuff........ i get some heart burn now and then, i can eat spicy stuff all day long and it not bother me then there are other times it does. thinking it must be my stress level.
i also been discovering I can not eat past 6/7ish pm.... when i go to bed.. oh wow...... it haunts me. lol
well im still home today, and looking forward to head downtown here in BUffalo NY to some St.Pattys day celebrations.
I know i could use a day of some fun and meeting up with some friends.
:)
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Daktari 03-14-2010 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morningstar55 (Post 66664)
good morning Lofters

wow all this talk about meds and tummy stuff........ i get some heart burn now and then, i can eat spicy stuff all day long and it not bother me then there are other times it does. thinking it must be my stress level.
i also been discovering I can not eat past 6/7ish pm.... when i go to bed.. oh wow...... it haunts me. lol
well im still home today, and looking forward to head downtown here in BUffalo NY to some St.Pattys day celebrations.
I know i could use a day of some fun and meeting up with some friends.
:)
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I hope you have a fantastic day celebrating morningstar
:beerbros:

morningstar55 03-14-2010 05:42 PM

evening Lofters..
well had a nice time seeing a lot of some old friends and made a couple new ones.... at the St Pattys day party.......
I didnt make it to the parade which was down the street...... but its ok .. it was soo cold and windy out there....... i came home chilled and i was inside the whole time.
now im home, in my warm place, making chicken cacciatore.
have some hot chocolate , and then laundry. Im sure i will get sent out tomorrow somewhere, at some point.

miss entycing 03-15-2010 11:16 AM

Afternoon Lofters,
it's a beautiful day here in the Carolina's... sunny and very spring like- and I am very happy that the rain is finally gone!

Hope y'all are having a lovely day today, and I hope everyone's smilin....
:cheer:

ruthie14 03-15-2010 12:23 PM

Afternoon lofters. Another gray soggy day in NJ. Matches my mod so I guess its ok huh


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