Is up to 27 states now.

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Ohio, Michigan, Misssissippi, Missouri, Montana, New York, New Jersey, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn, South Carolina, Tenn, Texas.

Lots of unhappy people.

Have all the cool people move out of Texas (what, like a tenth of the population) and move all the tea party racists from other states into Texas and let it secede. Can you imagine how mean-spirited and angry that place would be. Let em hate on each other.

Whenever a gay kid self-identifies, he or she is given the choice to leave the country of Texas and come to us. There will be loving chosen family and friends waiting to welcome her or him.

32 and counting.......
 

Excuse me?

I rather like this idea....

I wonder if there is a country that would want such people....... <eye twinkle>

Obviously I am joking, but . . . Texas brought us George W. Bush and all that has meant. I think there's going to be some derision -- for a generation or two anyway. Maybe more.

Seriously, is there a more proudly reactionary state in the union? Texas has had FIVE times, FIVE TIMES the number of executions of any other state.

Texas is an outlier in so many measurements of progress, especially given its great wealth, that it boggles the mind. It's not that it's poor and ignorant. It's rich and determinedly proudly ignorant. I can imagine loving one's home regardless, but conservative Texas is beyond a red state. It really is another country.

The Texas Board of Education has done more harm to high school social science and science teaching -- nationwide -- than maybe any other entity in the U.S. Texas is a huge market, and, in the past, publishers created texts that could be sold in Texas under their laws, texts that deny there is a separation of church and state, that discuss evolution as if it were ONE possible explanation for biological diversity, texts that pretty much ignore the presence Hispanics in the U.S.

As an educator, I have thank Texas so much for wielding that influence.

I googled -- this article is a year old. It quotes another article, from The Washington Post, that I did not bother to look up.

Oooo, I read the rest of the article. I like this quote --

Thank you, Texas.

I have to enjoy the fact that changing demographics are eventually going to turn Texas into one big beautiful blue state, regardless of how reactionary its conservatives are. Looking forward to that day.

AZ woman runs down husband for not voting
 

This conservative did a little more than wring her hands. She ran over her husband with a car.

There is always talk of people moving to Canada and Secession after an election. For both, I have but one thing to say:

If you don't like it here in the good old U.S.A. because your candidate didn't win, stop whining about it and threatening to secede; quit making idle threats and get the fuck out and don't come back. There are people lined up around the world who would leap at the opportunity to come here and take your place.

It doesn't matter which political party wins or loses; the other side is going to cry, flail around on the ground, and whimper about leaving the country or seceding. In a few months, it will all pass, as it always does. We live in a free society. If one doesn't like what is happening where they are, they have the right to change that up to and including finding another country to call home. I say quit the foaming at the mouth and get on with it. I will not lose one moment of sleep over anyone threatening to secede or leave the country; it is little more than post-election rhetoric.

Glynn

I honestly have to admire the level of hysterics the conservatives are displaying. The amount of weeping and moaning and gnashing of teeth is impressive. I am enjoying it, honestly.

The thing I found most beautiful about pseudo-conservatives who thought Romney would win in a landslide saying they are going to Canada is the breathtaking ignorance it displays. Think about it, these people are saying, "A Kenyan, Muslim, Atheist, Marxist, Socialist, has taken over the country and tried to bring European Social Democracy to our nation so we're going to move to Canada which is a nation with a Social Democratic social contract."

You've *got* to love the idea of moving to a *more* left-leaning nation because this country took a few incremental steps to the left.

Cheers
Aj

I think it's the allusion of the White Christian Man ruling a nation, especially a Conservative. They seem to believe that because the Conservatives are in power somehow we're not as socialist as we are as a nation/culture. :canadian:

Well, you know how it is. I mean, when's the last time *you* saw a white man in the halls of American power? I mean, we haven't had a white president in, what, almost four years! It's even worse when you think about Secretary of State. When was the last time a white man held that position? It's been at least 10 years.

Cheers
Aj

These are separate posts and I know that you weren't saying you were pleased with the woman running over her husband, but reading both of these posts made me think....

...this could have just as easily been us. The strong beliefs and fear that we had that the country would be doomed if Romney took over office is just as strong in Republicans.

I questioned in a post prior to the election the effect of the election results on the losing party...I wondered if there would be an increase in anxiety, depression, etc. for those whose candidate didn't win.

My guess is that this woman truly, deeply believes that things will get worse for her family due to Obama winning, and it just put her over the edge, so to speak.

Election Results
 

Today I went to the California Secretary of State website to try and analyze election results. What I found surprised me.

There are a total of 59 counties in California. Votes are tallied from each preceint by County. First I looked to see how each County voted on the 11 propsitions on the ballot. To my amazement each of the 59 counties all agreed on each of the 11 Propsitions. Perhaps the percentages of Yes and No votes varied by County but in the final tally of each single vote for the propositions every county had the exact same result. All of the Propostions passed or not, across the board, the same in each County. (I hope this is making sense. The percentages of votes varied but the "pass or fail" was identical statewide.)

Then I took a look at the Presidential vote in each of the counties and it was pretty much what I expected, conservative counties voted in majority for Romney, more moderate and/or Urban Counties voted for President Obama. The exception was Orange County. Historically Orange County votes Republican. This time Obama won in Orange County by a samll percentage.

In the Senate Race, the same. conservative counties voted for Elizabeth Emken, Republican. (In this race Orange County voted in the majority for the Republican.) In the more progressive and/or moderate Urban Areas, Senator Feinstein, Democract won.

Can anyone explain why all counties voted the same on the propositons but not in the nation wide races? Yes, I know propositions are not officially partisan but most of us know which Party supports each Proposition. Thanks for your help.

Greyson, I am just trying to wrap my mind around Orange County, CA voting for Obama.

Perhaps the demographic is finally changing but it is still called the Orange Curtain.

It used to be a hotbed of the John Birch Society!

I lived there for 20 years and met more than my share of rabid Republicans.

Are you sure? The OC Register said this:

http://www.ocregister.com/sections/elections/president/

PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT
Orange County California Precincts Reporting 100%
100%
Barack Obama - D 44.2% 385,963 59.1% 5,581,902
Mitt Romney - R 53.6% 467,901 38.6% 3,645,245
Gary Johnson - L 1.2% 10,598 1% 98,890
Jill Stein - G 0.4% 3,440 0.6% 57,788
Roseanne Barr - P 0.3% 2,429 0.4% 36,974
Thomas Hoefling - A 0.3% 2,218 0.3% 27,105

Anya and Linus,

Below is the link which I was reading about 7:30AM this morning. I know I was shocked. I remember when the old saying about Orange County was "Behind the Orange Curtain."

Okay, I was on my second cup of coffee when I read this, or thought I did. Do either of you have an idea about all of the counties agreeing on each proposition?

Thanks for your input, seriously.

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/

I would have fainted dead away if Orange County had voted Obama.....

Greyson my friend....I'm not sure what you mean about the Propositions vote because if you go here: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/maps/...sures/prop/34/ you will find that 11 of 59 counties voted yes while the rest of the counties voted no. For those who don't know a yes on Prop 34 would have abolished the death penalty (yes CA has the death penalty) and instead made it life without the possibility of parole. It failed 53% no to 47% yes.

Prop 30, 32, 33, 34, 37, 39 also had counties voting yes and no.....that is 6 of the 11 Propositions.

I am confused by your question.

Well, yes, there would have been a lot of dismay, but I think it's a little different. I think on some level the conservatives are aware that their time as the big bully on the block is over. Seriously, I do think the election marks the end of the so-called culture wars. I think the conservatives got to flare up big in the primaries and were slapped down in the general election. They know what the demographics mean. In addition, they have used gay rights propositions cynically to get the white vote out so that their candidates got a boost. This time gay marriage won. It's a sea change. Not just Obama winning.

These are white people, sometimes well off people, having to face the fact that they may never be the force they were in this country. (BTW, I have no idea whether the driver of that car was white. Speaking in general). They are enraged. The tone is different than it would be for us. Even though Obama is the encumbent, even though the Democratic Party is in less disarray than the Republican Party, the fact is that historically the people currently represented by the Republican Party have held much more power in this country than those represented by the Democratic Party. They still do.

But they couldn't buy this election. That's one amazing thing. And demographics are changing. The culture is changing. Young white evangelical males are not even as conservative as their parents on some social issues, like gay rights. The misery they are feeling is not just because they lost an election. They truly see that the future is not theirs. They do not know what to do with themselves, they are so pissed off.

And that's why I am gloating. Not just because the other side lost.

That's party shit. The fact is that white male people will never ever hold the power they once did in this country barring some kind of change in civilization a la The Handmaid's Tale.

It was all I could do not to sing out loud to someone I know, "It's the end of the world as you know it. It's the end of the world as you know it. It's the end of the world as YOU know it. And *I* feel fine."

*proudly dancing on the grave of the moral majority and nothing anybody can say or do is going to muffle one little bit my BLISS*

I have lived through Reagan, Bush and W. Clinton was more Republican than Nixon in many ways. He sold poor people down the pike with welfare reform and has talked for years about that with pride. He knows better. I have forgiven him, but his Presidency did not feel like much of a relief from the Reagan ideology that has prevailed most of my adult life.

It's a new day. It really is. We are going to raise taxes on the RICH. OMFG.

*It's the end of their world as they know it . . . . . . *

Hi Toughy and all you other politco junkies. I really do not have the time to go back and take a look at the site right now. I have an unexpected dental emergency going on right now.

Honestly, I am almost afraid to go take a look. I studied it for about two hours yesterday morning and if I misinterpretted what I thought I was reading, well maybe I need to get some sort of medical evaluation. My apologies to all of you.

Why would Linkletter be proud?

ADULTS??? What would that mean?

Ooooo, I googled. "KIDS say the darnedest things" is your allusion. And then the ADULTS comment.

Kobi, being passive aggressive is not too mature. Just sayin.

I say Rubio, Christie, Jeb Bush are all being looked at by the GOP.

I understand all eyes are on Hillary's final call when she leaves as SOS.

Lawd. *shakes head and displays a hint of a smile*

I'm too busy following the latest idiotic moves by John McCain. He's so concerned about Benghazi and wants Watergate-like hearings. Plus he will do whatever is in his power to block Susan Rice from becoming Secretary of State. Meanwhile he was too busy ranting in front of cameras at his press conference yesterday that he missed a classified intelligence briefing on a Senate committee he's serving on. It was a three hour briefing with testimony from officials from the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA and the National Counterterrorism Center about Benghazi. Apparently there was a "scheduling error."

He calls the Whitehouse administration incompetent and Susan Rice not very bright. This from the man who picked Sarah Palin as his running mate and voted for Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of State despite all of the untruths she passed along from the Bush administration, whereas Susan Rice was not involved in Benghazi and was just the messenger based on CIA briefings on what was known at the time. Yeah he's real concerned about Benghazi.