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Apocalipstic 04-21-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UofMfan (Post 89427)
Thank you Apocalipstic, I believe that WWII was probably the Us's last shining moment, sadly.

As to if it is our nature to be Nationalistic? I think you may be on to something. From the very get go we are taught to stay with our "group, "circle", "Posse", "family", and so on., so it is no wonder this is how we turn out.

What makes what the State of Texas is trying to do dangerous, in my view, is to teach children, most of whom have very little parental intervention, that they are better, superior, than other children in the world simply because they are US citizens.

How is this conducive to world peace and better understanding and relations with your neighbors? Aren't we all in the same group, as human beings?

I think it is very dangerous, but I don't think it is that different from what is already being taught.

Does that make sense?

I completely agree with you and dream of a day when at least something taught in US is actually true and good.

I know I am still pretty bitter about the pack of lies I was taught.

UofMfan 04-21-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 89440)
I do think it is important that we remember we are not the only country who pushes for their own exceptionalism though. We are not exceptionally different in preaching being exceptional.....definitely obnoxious though.

I understand, but I would like to know how many countries have it spelled out in their school curriculum. I for one was not taught that for the few years I went to school here. Maybe it is something worth looking into.

Apocalipstic 04-21-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UofMfan (Post 89443)
I understand, but I would like to know how many countries have it spelled out in their school curriculum. I for one was not taught that for the few years I went to school here. Maybe it is something worth looking into.


Very interesting. I see now what you are saying. Yes we have a history of Nationalism, but is it taught per se in curriculum?

I know before & during WWII Germany and Japan did and we know how that went. And yes, I think the Soviet Union and China...

I keep wishing the US was more progressive.

UofMfan 04-21-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 89451)
Very interesting. I see now what you are saying. Yes we have a history of Nationalism, but is it taught per se in curriculum?

I know before & during WWII Germany and Japan did and we know how that went. And yes, I think the Soviet Union and China...

I keep wishing the US was more progressive.


Exactly!, and this is the part that strikes a chord with me. And let's not forget Cuba.

So how can we as a nation denounce those countries that are doing what Texas is trying to do? Are Conservatives so blind not to see this?

Apocalipstic 04-21-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UofMfan (Post 89453)
Exactly!, and this is the part that strikes a chord with me. And let's not forget Cuba.

So how can we as a nation denounce those countries that are doing what Texas is trying to do? Are Conservatives so blind not to see this?

That is the big question isn't it? What possibly can they be thinking?????

I sincerely have no answer, it makes zero sense to me.

UofMfan 04-21-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 89457)
That is the big question isn't it? What possibly can they be thinking?????

I sincerely have no answer, it makes zero sense to me.

Me too. I am hoping maybe someone can comment on that and enlighten me! I am open to that.

I would also like to know how those who reside in Texas feel about this. But in the scope of things that get passed in Texas, maybe this isn't a big deal to most. To me though, it means a whole new generation of trouble.

Apocalipstic 04-21-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UofMfan (Post 89467)
Me too. I am hoping maybe someone can comment on that and enlighten me! I am open to that.

I would also like to know how those who reside in Texas feel about this. But in the scope of things that get passed in Texas, maybe this isn't a big deal to most. To me though, it means a whole new generation of trouble.


Meee toooo, I watch the news and wonder how possibly anyone could think it is a good idea.

Hack 04-21-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 89364)
Loving this thread!

I sometimes wonder if WWII was our last shining moment as a Nation. Jake, your trip sounds amazing! How wonderful to get to see the good side of what the US has done.

It was. Thank you.

*wistful little grin*


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