Gender overlap.

Both male and female.

Now, I am curious as to why in your tags you placed these terms.

bio male, cisgendered, cissexed, transsexed, xy male

Why not the others?

Sorry dude, wasn't trying to make you mad, I'll bow out:):rrose:

I had to delete those because only so many tags are allowed. Since we tend to see more transsexed men at this site versus transsexed women, I figured it would be unlikely those tabs would be looked for.

I do believe I am the FIRST person to get their tags critiqued here!

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Not mad, but thank you.

I have no problem when questions come from a genuine place of a desire for understanding. If that is where you were coming from, then it is all good.

And certainly I have no interest in you bowing out.

Getting offline.

If others would like to use this thread they are more than welcome.

Thanks.

I like bio male/female as in biologically born, with no reference to the now.

I don't like cisgendered at all and I have no discernible reason for that.

I also use XX and XY, but written rather than spoken.

I'm just a transmale on hormones. I do not claim any of the other terms as I do not find they describe me well enough.

I'm third gendered and I dislike the term cisgender. The wikipedia definition: "Cisgender (or cisgendered) is an adjective used in the context of gender issues and counselling to refer to a class of gender identities formed by a match between an individual's gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex.[1] I don't think we should be labeling people according to what society thinks is appropriate behavior. I find this definition particularly offensive to women.

Technical note as well: tags (found at the bottom of the thread) are also generated based on the topic as found in the first post, IIRC.

It doesn't seem to me like anyone here would fit that definition of- an individual's gender identity matching the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex. How many people's gender here actually matches with what society expects of us?

And yes I agree on the woman part. The cost of conformity is high for women (as is non-conformity).

I don't know why but I am not comfortable referring to myself as a transsexual. I prefer Trans, Transmasculine Butch and/or Transman.

I find that when I use the term cisgender or cissex, outside of people from the B-F online communities, the listening audience do not know what I am talking about. When I use the term "Biomale," they have a look of instant understanding come across their face.

None of the above
 

I am a femme and I use the term woman if they present as a woman and man if they present as a man unless they tell me they prefer some other pronoun and I use what they ask me to.

I agree and this is also the reason why I used the term cissexed in my opening statement and the poll.

I put cisgendered in the tags because that term is often used in place of cissexed.

I really don't get it, but.....
 

Ok, so I realized that I left out something rather important in the OP to explain the question.

I said:

I am wondering if how we identify impacts what term we like to use when referring to people who are born with XY chromosomes ("males") and XX chromosomes ("females").

It was half a sentence. The whole sentence should read:

I am wondering if how we identify impacts what term we like to use when referring to people who are born with XY chromosomes ("males") and XX chromosomes ("females") who feel that they were born in the right body.

Does that help?

Linus, is it possible to add that to the first post?

I like XX female/XY male best. I use cisgender as well, especially irl where its less awkward than saying "non-trans." If I'm talking about XX females or XY males specifically then I'll typically use those, but if I'm talking about non-trans people in general I find it's easier to just say cis irl.

But on the other hand that presents a problem. Mostly when I'm talking about cis people I'm talking about heteronormative/traditionally heterosexual folks who have no conflict between their reproductive organs/secondary sex features and their internal understanding of their own sex/gender, and I think it can be a whole other kettle of fish if cis is used as a generalization for the rest of the LGB community unless an individual identifies with cis specifically.

I really have come to dislike the terms biofemale and biomale. Biology encompasses more than reproductive organs, and given some of the hypotheses about the development of a fetus as "transsexed" in the womb, I'm not sure the words biomale and biofemale cover that.

Done and adjusted. :)

Thank you so much, Linus.