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Sam 07-05-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 145949)
Simple Sam and yes I know you too. I am not taking T, nor am I having surgeries. I am male but not going to transition. Therefore I retain Butch. Didn't think you were nit picking.

Thanks Corkey, i was not sure in the last couple years if you decided to take T, that is all i was wondering.

thank you for clarifying

Corkey 07-05-2010 09:16 PM

What, a pleasant answer to an honest question. Really, put your guard down.

Corkey 07-05-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 145952)
Thanks Corkey, i was not sure in the last couple years if you decided to take T, that is all i was wondering.

thank you for clarifying

No problem Sam. Have a good evening.

Queerasfck 07-05-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman (Post 145947)
:hippie: I love these gents. Fellows, you're always welcome in my thread! Let's hear why you love lesbians. I am sure Sam would like to hear! :tea:

Thanks Pasha. Of course I love my lesbian sisters. It was nice of you to start this thread and beautiful to read. Maybe Sam can learn something from it. I just learned something by reading it.

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 145948)
Not all femme women consider themselves "lesbian"

that was all i meant.

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Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 145949)
Simple Sam and yes I know you too. I am not taking T, nor am I having surgeries. I am male but not going to transition. Therefore I retain Butch. Didn't think you were nit picking.

Sam and Corkey! Hello! Its almost enough for a party. Now remember, the question of the evening is "Why Do You Like Lesbians?" Corkey has already shared a loving tidbit about his lady love. Sam, you're next in the circle. Here. :rrose: Hold this. Whoever is holding the rose must share with us an admiration of the lesbian sort. Go ahead Sam. Don't be shy.

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EzeeTiger (Post 145957)
Thanks Pasha. Of course I love my lesbian sisters. It was nice of you to start this thread and beautiful to read. Maybe Sam can learn something from it. I just learned something by reading it.

If you were here I would give you a brownie with your tea Mr. Ezee. You certainly deserve one! Spa does make good brownies!

Sam 07-05-2010 09:19 PM

i'm not shy. but the girlie type of lesbian has an aura about them. better?

TenderKnight 07-05-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TenderKnight (Post 145951)
*sighs and ducks and covers*

here is comes, folks.. hold on to your asses..

I am truely hoping that my sarcasim here was uncalled for.. and if so, I am sorry for interrupting the flow of the thread..

Another reason why I admire lesbians? Because they are proud of being a woman that loves other women.

Sam 07-05-2010 09:21 PM

thank you:rrose:

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 145961)
i'm not shy. but the girlie type of lesbian has an aura about them. better?

Sam, I love when you guys love girlie lesbians! That is one of the things I love about Tmen, when they love girlie lesbians! You get a brownie Mister!

Mister Bent 07-05-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 145946)
your opinion of course.

differences of opinions from all walks of life Bent. you keep yours, i will keep mine.

My opinion is that you should state yours more clearly, if you really want us to buy this attempt at back-peddling:

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 145948)
Not all femme women consider themselves "lesbian"

that was all i meant.

I think that's incredibly obvious, Sam. I think we're all pretty well versed that not all femmes consider themselves lesbian, which has zero relevance to the thread.

There is no way, from the way you worded your comment, that you can honestly expect anyone here to believe "that was all you meant."

It was damned disrespectful to the intent of the thread. Own it.

pajama 07-05-2010 09:24 PM

I am whatever you want to call me....
 
I'm not male or transgendered, label me whatever you please, doesn't matter to me.

I love the two Tmen that I have dated because:
1. They are handsome as sin!
2. Fantastic, creative lovers with some hella stamina.
3. Both, I've heard (didn't know them pre), are much happier with themselves and that shows in how they present to others.
4. Both would do anything to help their friends, both locally and afar.
5. And Both have had the COURAGE to transition at work and at large, and that is amazingly brave! So I totally respect them for that!

I appreciate this thread to uplift our brothers and sisters, not belittle them with left-handed compliments.

A

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TenderKnight (Post 145963)
I am truely hoping that my sarcasim here was uncalled for.. and if so, I am sorry for interrupting the flow of the thread..

Another reason why I admire lesbians? Because they are proud of being a woman that loves other women.

Tender, We Lesbians do have some pride goin on, don't we?

You know though, that is exactly one of the reasons I love Tmen. They are so, without fear or regret, proud of their brave selves. Takes my breath away the struggle they go through and maintain all that pride. Love.

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:28 PM

Mister Clark Kent, here. :rrose: Hold the rose. Tell me why you like me. (or any other lesbians).

I like you because you are funny and you are a big enough man to identify yourself without the traditional Tman trappings.

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pajara2 (Post 145970)
I'm not male or transgendered, label me whatever you please, doesn't matter to me.

I love the two Tmen that I have dated because:
1. They are handsome as sin!
2. Fantastic, creative lovers with some hella stamina.
3. Both, I've heard (didn't know them pre), are much happier with themselves and that shows in how they present to others.
4. Both would do anything to help their friends, both locally and afar.
5. And Both have had the COURAGE to transition at work and at large, and that is amazingly brave! So I totally respect them for that!

I appreciate this thread to uplift our brothers and sisters, not belittle them with left-handed compliments.

A

Transitioning in the larger world is absolutely awe inspiring. I agree Pajara. It makes the whole world a better place when Transpeople make this path.

Mister Bent 07-05-2010 09:34 PM

Well, Pasha, you know you just might be my favorite lesbian. I respect the life you've lived and the people and causes you've represented. I admire the gays, lesbians and trans people who have come before me, you and the rest of us, who have allowed us to have the voices we do today.

I have been guilty, in the past, of generalizations that were hurtful, because of hurtful, backlash encounters I'd had. You are one of the people who has gotten me to look at those behaviors and adjust my perspective accordingly.

I like people who are willing to build bridges, not desperately cling to tired stereotypes.

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stearns (Post 145931)
I am a transman who treasures his queer identity and will never give it up. I like and admire lesbians for their tremendous courage and the paths they have forged for our entire community. My closest lesbian friend, Susan, has been out and proud for over 30 years. She brings a rich history, amazing political and social insights, a keen eye for bullshit and a sharp tongue for "-ism's".

Stearns, I seem to have been so busy pouring the fucking tea (smile) that I missed your post at first. Thank you. We lesbians are a dogged bunch about making change, I agree.

Here's some tea Mister. :tea:

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Bent (Post 145985)
Well, Pasha, you know you just might be my favorite lesbian. I respect the life you've lived and the people and causes you've represented. I admire the gays, lesbians and trans people who have come before me, you and the rest of us, who have allowed us to have the voices we do toay.

I have been guilty, in the past, of generalizations that were hurtful, because of hurtful, backlash encounters I'd had. You are one of the people who have gotten me to look at those behaviors and adjust my perspective accordingly.

I like people who are willing to build bridges, not desperately cling to tired stereotypes.

Two brownies for you Mister Vent. I am a sucker for compliments. Let's put somethin stronger in that damn tea shall we? :tea:

Queerasfck 07-05-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman (Post 145990)
Let's put somethin stronger in that damn tea shall we? :tea:

Woot Woot!!!
If this thread's rockin don't come a knockin!!

apretty 07-05-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Bent (Post 145985)
Well, Pasha, you know you just might be my favorite lesbian.

i also like the Pasha!!

but i am not sure it's about 'lesbian' or about the way that i feel that she communicates with this brave sort of honesty/transparency. or maybe it's her dog. either way, i <3 Pasha!!

(and i probably don't belong in this thread as i feel "queer" fits me best most days--but there are lesbians and trans-people that i admire and respect for the people they are--they just also happen to be either lesbian or trans.

*disliking an entire group of people says more about the "disliker" than the group of people!!*)

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman (Post 145989)
Stearns, I seem to have been so busy pouring the fucking tea (smile) that I missed your post at first. Thank you. We lesbians are a dogged bunch about making change, I agree.

Here's some tea Mister. :tea:

And a brownie!

I went diggin in the cupboard for some wine and I couldn't find the damn stuff.

Mister Bent 07-05-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman (Post 145990)
Two brownies for you Mister Vent. I am a sucker for compliments. Let's put somethin stronger in that damn tea shall we? :tea:

I vote for gin, skip the tea.

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by apretty (Post 145993)
i also like the Pasha!!

but i am not sure it's about 'lesbian' or about the way that i feel that she communicates with this brave sort of honesty/transparency. or maybe it's her dog. either way, i <3 Pasha!!

(and i probably don't belong in this thread as i feel "queer" fits me best most days--but there are lesbians and trans-people that i admire and respect for the people they are--they just also happen to be either lesbian or trans.

*disliking an entire group of people says more about the "disliker" than the group of people!!*)

I won't turn back the love no matter how you ID fam! Jump on the luv wagon, I'll be the captain. :pirate-steer: <--- love pirate

bonne-maman 07-05-2010 09:50 PM

You all are wearin me out with your luv. I actually have to go to work tomorrow, the horror. (I am a teacher, have been off for a month, working summer school 20 hrs weekly for 4 weeks in July) I must retire for the evening, but will be back tomorrow afternoon to see who held the rose, oops, here it is :rrose:, while I was away.

It is SUCH a lesbian thing to do to pass an object around a circle to take turns talking. I love the idea of a buncha Tmen in a circle doing a lesbian-type thing. Kisses on your stubbly, or not, cheeks.

Nat 07-05-2010 10:04 PM

I am not so into identity this week. I like people who are like poems because they move me. I am in love.

Andrew, Jr. 07-06-2010 06:36 AM


I'm a transman and I adore all people. There is not one group more or less that deserves less love than another group as I see it. In fact, I think that that is what we need more of is love. I just get tired of having to limit myself to one or another because of social norms.

As for dating, I only date lesbians who are femme. The more femme the better for me. It is a ying/yang approach to life and living simply. Life is just so short to be so limiting. I am with you Nat. This week is just not a week for id's either. Just too much going on here too. Shew.

Andrew

bonne-maman 07-06-2010 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nat (Post 146013)
I am not so into identity this week. I like people who are like poems because they move me. I am in love.

Hi Nat, Long time no see! I absolutely agree...this thread is a tiny chunk o love...

bonne-maman 07-06-2010 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr. (Post 146114)

I'm a transman and I adore all people. There is not one group more or less that deserves less love than another group as I see it. In fact, I think that that is what we need more of is love. I just get tired of having to limit myself to one or another because of social norms.

As for dating, I only date lesbians who are femme. The more femme the better for me. It is a ying/yang approach to life and living simply. Life is just so short to be so limiting. I am with you Nat. This week is just not a week for id's either. Just too much going on here too. Shew.

Andrew

of course Andrew, love belongs everywhere....

AtLast 07-07-2010 12:51 PM

I am going to use this thread as a kind of affirmational space.... come back and read it often. Especially when some stuff around these issues gets tough in other threads. I need to keep focused on all the good in all of the very good people here! Hear you, see you, know you... let your light in to help me through the rough spots.

Thank you for this thread!

JustLovelyJenn 07-07-2010 01:05 PM

Today my love is talking to a therapist about being trans for the first time. I wanted to stop and say how proud I am of hym for that. How brave I think all Trans folks are for doing that. Its a scary thing to admit and embrace that you are who you are, even if the world around you doesn't understand (and for hym, they never will). To look at the potential of loosing people in your life and having the courage to say "if they don't love me for me, I can live with out them."

I admire Transmen for their STRENGTH of character!!!

bonne-maman 07-07-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 147206)
I am going to use this thread as a kind of affirmational space.... come back and read it often. Especially when some stuff around these issues gets tough in other threads. I need to keep focused on all the good in all of the very good people here! Hear you, see you, know you... let your light in to help me through the rough spots.

Thank you for this thread!

Well, thanks to you at last, for the lovely compliment of this post.

bonne-maman 07-07-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JustLovelyJenn (Post 147210)
Today my love is talking to a therapist about being trans for the first time. I wanted to stop and say how proud I am of hym for that. How brave I think all Trans folks are for doing that. Its a scary thing to admit and embrace that you are who you are, even if the world around you doesn't understand (and for hym, they never will). To look at the potential of loosing people in your life and having the courage to say "if they don't love me for me, I can live with out them."

I admire Transmen for their STRENGTH of character!!!

You said it! Transguys are so strong. Good goin for your love! What a great day.


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