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Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:25 AM

OK...note cards, or whatever.....

UGH

Linus 08-28-2010 10:26 AM

His hands aren't big enough.

I did a search for pictures and noticed that the ones I saw pretty much everyone had those fold up chairs. I wonder if that is making the crowd seem larger than it is.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:30 AM

Preaching.

Burning Bush...

Moses...

Beck can relate to Martin Luther King the most.

Is he wearing a bullet proof vest?

Linus 08-28-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 181407)
Preaching.

Burning Bush...

Moses...

Beck can relate to Martin Luther King the most.

Is he wearing a bullet proof vest?


Probably. To be real, I'm sure he's had just as many death threats as Obama does. You don't say things like he does without making enemies.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus (Post 181406)
His hands aren't big enough.

I did a search for pictures and noticed that the ones I saw pretty much everyone had those fold up chairs. I wonder if that is making the crowd seem larger than it is.

Makes sense, and a bunch of people left during the previous segment.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus (Post 181408)
Probably. To be real, I'm sure he's had just as many death threats as Obama does. You don't say things like he does without making enemies.

True true...

Though I think the people who would kill a public figure are on his side.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:34 AM

The overblown ego of it all.

"one man can change the world"

"and that person is you"

I thought he was about to go all third reich but he pulled back

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:35 AM

Now he is into the Sermon on the Mount and teaching people to fish.

The poorest among us have all the best blessings....so apparently they need to stop whining?

Linus 08-28-2010 10:36 AM

I was just listening to Beck and noticed he speaks in snippets. It's like he lacks whole concepts and cannot elaborate on them.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus (Post 181414)
I was just listening to Beck and noticed he speaks in snippets. It's like he lacks whole concepts and cannot elaborate on them.

Yep, like sound bites.

Keeping things simple for the uneducated?

Linus 08-28-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 181410)
True true...

Though I think the people who would kill a public figure are on his side.


People who kill others in the name of assassination are not on anyone's specific side but their own delusional state.

Just as much as I don't want the right to demonize the likes of me, I will not demonize them. They are people just like us. Perhaps a little misguided and very set in what they believe, they are still human.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:42 AM

I wonder how many people actually believe this shit?

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 181417)
People who kill others in the name of assassination are not on anyone's specific side but their own delusional state.

Just as much as I don't want the right to demonize the likes of me, I will not demonize them. They are people just like us. Perhaps a little misguided and very set in what they believe, they are still human.

If you look historically political assasins tend to be extremist.

I see Beck and his followers as extremist and dilusional.

I do agree most of them probably are misguided and would not kill anyone...but I think Beck and Palin stir the fear that looses violence, like the dude who stabbed the Islamic taxi driver this week.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:52 AM

I wonder if he is going to say what the "right thing" is?

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 10:59 AM

Wow

we need to go to church and give money so that the US can save people when the apocalypse comes?

"our churches need to stand for that we know is true"

He did mention Mosques.

He is all excited there are helicopters and planes over he thinks to take pictures of him.

Beck still.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:01 AM

I wonder if he stole his hand towel from his hotel?

He is claiming to have 180 million followers.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:03 AM

Here they are...in front of the Lincoln Memorial on the anniversary of Dr. King's speech with their own agenda.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:05 AM

He is crying that he can't find the next George Washington in the crowd.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:07 AM

Reading some more from his non existent notes....

I wonder if he is truly crazy or if this is a front.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:09 AM

Inevitably.....

Bag pipes. Amazing Grace.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:10 AM

Bad bag pipes.

or the satellite is making them off key?

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:11 AM

Palin is crying

MsDemeanor 08-28-2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 181423)
He is all excited there are helicopters and planes over he thinks to take pictures of him.

*cough bullshit cough* DC is a no fly zone.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:18 AM

Beck cries again.

They have raised 1.5 millin $$'s alledgedly.

I keep wondering who is filming this for CSPAN, them?

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:19 AM

So manipulative.

Someone with hands and most of face blown off to pray.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:28 AM

Hideous.

A hideous, manipulative revival meeting

I feel sick, in my bubble I don't always realize that nothing has changed. I say I do....but when I see it it seems too much to wrap my brain around.

I guess I will get back to laundry. I have not said a millionth of what I was thinking...but if you do read, thank you for helping me be able to watch this thing.

and.

Please vote.

Apocalipstic 08-28-2010 11:31 AM

I thought it was over..

Joe D Messina. America the Beautiful.

Linus 08-28-2010 03:44 PM

I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

Rockinonahigh 08-28-2010 04:59 PM

In this day and age I should think people whoul have more smarts than to fall for the snake oil side show they put on,but I gess if a rable rouser can holler enough loud enough...somebody will show up to see what its all about.

Corkey 08-28-2010 05:01 PM

I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

Toughy 08-28-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 181418)
I wonder how many people actually believe this shit?

depending on who asks, how they ask and what they ask........somewhere between 25-35% of white folks in this country.......it's been that way ever since I have followed politics..........the last time this happened it was over the 'Godless communists' with Senator Joe McCarthy

that said..........the 'God sent me to do this' thing is getting truly truly scary.....really scary...this just seems really different............the lies keep being repeated and the media reports it like fact.......truth is a lie and the lie is the truth....so the media says.........

Ebon 08-28-2010 06:09 PM

I can't wait to see what the Daily Show has to say about this whole thing.

theoddz 08-28-2010 07:53 PM

I think that, since times are so tough now with unemployment, scaled back social services, people who have fallen on hard times find solace in religion. Who was it, Karl Marx who said that "Religion is the opium of the people."??

Oh, okay, here's the quote:

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." -- Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

~Theo~ :bouquet:

Nat 08-28-2010 11:13 PM

These people scare the crap out of me. I didn't watch. Beck grosses me out. Palin too - in a different way. I don't blame religion. I blame human nature. Human pack behavior. Human gullibility. Human brain-laziness. Human lack of compassion. Etc.

Nat 08-29-2010 07:36 AM


Apocalipstic 08-29-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 181597)
depending on who asks, how they ask and what they ask........somewhere between 25-35% of white folks in this country.......it's been that way ever since I have followed politics..........the last time this happened it was over the 'Godless communists' with Senator Joe McCarthy

that said..........the 'God sent me to do this' thing is getting truly truly scary.....really scary...this just seems really different............the lies keep being repeated and the media reports it like fact.......truth is a lie and the lie is the truth....so the media says.........

I grew up with "god told me to" how does one argue with that which makes no sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Organicbutch (Post 181601)
I can't wait to see what the Daily Show has to say about this whole thing.

I know...I am eat up. I can
t wait! We are taping them...Colbert too and Oberman and Rachel. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by theoddz (Post 181681)
I think that, since times are so tough now with unemployment, scaled back social services, people who have fallen on hard times find solace in religion. Who was it, Karl Marx who said that "Religion is the opium of the people."??

Oh, okay, here's the quote:

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." -- Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

~Theo~ :bouquet:

True and SCARY.
I don't agree with the part about abolishing religion to make people happy...but otherwise, I agree with Marx...Yes, I lean very far to the left, but stop at the forcing people to give it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nat (Post 181785)
These people scare the crap out of me. I didn't watch. Beck grosses me out. Palin too - in a different way. I don't blame religion. I blame human nature. Human pack behavior. Human gullibility. Human brain-laziness. Human lack of compassion. Etc.

Cynthia was watching, so I watched with her.

I agree that everything falls apart when people are involved. Human nature freaks me out.

Apocalipstic 08-29-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nat (Post 181827)

lmaooooooooooooooooo

"you know where you are"

really????

Apocalipstic 08-29-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 181580)
I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

We drank 2 pots of coffee and yelled at the TV together.

theoddz 08-29-2010 10:31 AM

Oh, I wasn't trying to state that I thought religion out to be abolished. I don't believe that, but I do agree with Marx that people, as a group, tend to gravitate more to it during hard times.

We're living in terribly difficult times now. People are clinging to whatever gives them hope and religion has often filled that need. It gives solace, but at the same time, there's enough double-talk and room for interpretation in various religious scriptures to give people with lost hope plenty of license to blame or condemn others.

One of the big reasons that Hitler was so able to "hypnotize" the masses was that, after the defeat they suffered in WW1, the German people were demoralized and their country, particularly the economy, was in shambles. In this case, Hitler was able to utilize Nationalism as a tool to garner support for his extremist and evil goals. We're seeing that again, like yesterday's Beck Rally....emotionalism hyped up by appealing to the conservative American's sense of national pride, patriotism and religious convictions. Same thing happened in Nazi Germany.

I think this is what I find so squicky/scary. Yes, it is "pack mentality"....at its worst and most dangerous.

~Theo~ :bouquet:

waxnrope 08-29-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus (Post 181554)
I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

That's just it. There's no depth, no real concrete anything. This was the way of Palin's failed journey. Witless platitudes served upon a platter of whiteness, distortions, and a reconstructed(for their own aims) G-d. When it is over, all one can utter, really, is, huh?


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