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Jet 05-07-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by atomiczombie (Post 101178)
I started on Androgel today for the first time. Starting low at 2.5 g per day. In a month I check with my endo doc and see if she wants to take me up to 5g. This is it, the first day of the beginning of a new life, and I'm not scared at all. :)

um *puzzled* why would you be scared?

Leigh 05-07-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus
Congrats!!! You must be very excited about this. BTW, when you have the first shot, not a lot will happen afterward other than slight pain at the shot site ;)

Thanks bro, I'm very excited about finally being able to begin My transition :)

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Originally Posted by Sam
great news. good luck, you feel great after a few months.

Thanks Sam, I appreciate it :)

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Originally Posted by Liam
Congratulations, Braedon!

Thanks Liam :)

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Originally Posted by atomiczombie
I started on Androgel today for the first time. Starting low at 2.5 g per day. In a month I check with my endo doc and see if she wants to take me up to 5g. This is it, the first day of the beginning of a new life, and I'm not scared at all. :)

Thats fantastic news bud, I'm glad your finally on the right path in life :thumbsup:

Logicaly 05-09-2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by atomiczombie (Post 101178)
I started on Androgel today for the first time. Starting low at 2.5 g per day. In a month I check with my endo doc and see if she wants to take me up to 5g. This is it, the first day of the beginning of a new life, and I'm not scared at all. :)

I had at one point considered the gel. I would be curious, if you don't mind sharing of course, what made you decide to go with the gel as opposed to another method?

I would also be curious to hear your experiences with it, since most people that document it, that I can find, are on shots rather then gel.

The Oopster 05-09-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Logicaly (Post 101958)
I had at one point considered the gel. I would be curious, if you don't mind sharing of course, what made you decide to go with the gel as opposed to another method?

I would also be curious to hear your experiences with it, since most people that document it, that I can find, are on shots rather then gel.


I started with T cream, it was cheaper then the gel. I had health problems and it was a good way to see how my body would react to the T. It made me stronger. The draw backs were 1) it's more expensive 2) you do it every day 3) the effects are slower

The advantages were 1) the effects were slower. It gave me time physically and mentally to see how I would react and if T was the right thing for me. By the time we got the dosage up to as high as we could go on the cream I knew i wanted to do the shots.

I recommend if someone is hesitant to start here, or if there are reasons that you don't want to have a lower voice and be hairier over night. Ultimately since i still have female innards is the cream wasn't enough to stop my cycle and more then anything i wanted that gone.

HOpe that helps

Logicaly 05-09-2010 12:31 PM

That does help a lot. My partner is very much against me getting the cream because we did some research and what we did find out is that its possible for her to absorb it into her body as well. Unfortunately there is no convincing her that I can make it safe for her.

The Oopster 05-09-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Logicaly (Post 102280)
That does help a lot. My partner is very much against me getting the cream because we did some research and what we did find out is that its possible for her to absorb it into her body as well. Unfortunately there is no convincing her that I can make it safe for her.

I'm not saying it couldn't happen but I'm guessin that it's more of a wive's tale then anything else or that there are other factors like the partner already having a high level of T.

For me the effects were really slow and like I said some changes just weren't going to happen while on the cream ... gel works a lot like the cream in the fact they are both topical, so I would think someone would have to put it on and constantly rub against their partner just after applying for them to get major effects.

I applied it on the inner part of my upper arm below the pits and my inner thighs ... if I thought i was going to be giving a lot of people hugs and I was wearing a sleeveless shirt then I put on my inner thighs. I generally put it on at the beginning of the day and in general if I was going to be in a position to rub it off on another it wouldn't be til night when it's already been absorbed in my body. I also tend to have underwear on when i have sex so i would also then make sure to have boxer briefs on.

But again since the changes were so slow and I was applying it directly on myself on a daily basis it's hard to see how it would effect a partner unless like I said their were other factors already contributing to a high level of testosteron in that person.

atomiczombie 05-10-2010 04:37 PM

I am on the gel because my doctor and psychiatrist felt that with my history of mood and panic disorders, I should avoid getting the shots. They don't want to have me hit the highs and lows of the cycle with the shots, basically. As far as topical transference to others, I just wash my hands throughly after I apply it to my upper arms. I then wait 30 min or so for it to completely dry and absorb into my skin, then I shower. Voila! No chance to transfer it to others. :)

Jet 05-26-2010 10:49 AM

Okay....

Finally, I took my first shot of 100 cc yesterday in the thigh. My doctor explained a lot to me as far as what I can expect.

I won't do another shot until one week after next which will be 200. He prescribed my T and syringes etc for a 6 week supply administered every 2 weeks.

I'll be doing my own injections....although my straight friend, Mel said she would do them since she used to be a nurse. God lover her.
I have no idea what i'm going to tell my family.

The only other glitch that might arise is insurance. My doc carries my plan and he's submitting a claim that I hope the company will take. if they deny it, I'll be really pissed off.

Thinker 05-26-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 114618)
I have no idea what i'm going to tell my family.

You tell them the truth. Expect the worst and hope for the best. That way you won't be disappointed, but you may be pleasantly surprised.

You're an adult, and it's time for you to live for *you*......to find your own happiness in this world.

I pray their minds and hearts will be open and that you will experience the best possible scenario.

little man 05-26-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 114618)

The only other glitch that might arise is insurance. My doc carries my plan and he's submitting a claim that I hope the company will take. if they deny it, I'll be really pissed off.


if your insurance doesn't cover the costs for you, there should be a clinic in atlanta that deals with trans patients. i've been without insurance for a number of years and have been out of pocket on my expenses. i found clinics in richmond, DC, and st louis that all deal with transfolk. while it is more expensive for the T, you still have access to medical professionals who are (hopefully) more interested in helping than turning a buck. a more price effective alternative to "name brand" T is to find a local pharmacy that does in-house compounding. that cuts the cost by almost 2/3.

good luck!

Jet 05-26-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by little man (Post 114680)
if your insurance doesn't cover the costs for you, there should be a clinic in atlanta that deals with trans patients. i've been without insurance for a number of years and have been out of pocket on my expenses. i found clinics in richmond, DC, and st louis that all deal with transfolk. while it is more expensive for the T, you still have access to medical professionals who are (hopefully) more interested in helping than turning a buck. a more price effective alternative to "name brand" T is to find a local pharmacy that does in-house compounding. that cuts the cost by almost 2/3.

good luck!

thanks wil
the doc says there shouldn't be a problem, but.....you never know.
he gave me prescriptions for the next six weeks, we'll see.

yanno, I felt so good yesterday..and then worrying kinds of shit started coming up...family...a job....etc...but between you and me and God...i'll tell ya...it feels...right.

little man 05-26-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 114716)
thanks wil
the doc says there shouldn't be a problem, but.....you never know.
he gave me prescriptions for the next six weeks, we'll see.

yanno, I felt so good yesterday..and then worrying kinds of shit started coming up...family...a job....etc...but between you and me and God...i'll tell ya...it feels...right.

it won't take long before you realize you've actually settled into yourself. i can't begin to tell you how that feels. what used to be a really good day for me is now my day to day existence. i never suspected that one could feel this good on a daily basis. T has been a wonder drug for me.

just keep putting one foot in front of the other...most everything else will sort itself out. i was worried about family and work and all that shit, too. while i can't say my family actually understands, they do accept. neither of my brothers (both fairly religious christian guys) even batted an eyelash. the pronouns have been difficult for my parents, but mom got adjusted before she passed and dad seems to be trying. can't ask for much more. i think family gets more accepting as they see how much more comfortable we are within ourselves.

Jet 05-31-2010 05:37 PM

How long was before you started seeing the effects of testosterone injected?

Linus 05-31-2010 05:42 PM

Pretty quick, actually. I think the beard started in a couple of weeks and voice in a month or so. How long it takes varies from one person to another. So patience is needed, unfortunately. ;)

Jet 05-31-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 118933)
Pretty quick, actually. I think the beard started in a couple of weeks and voice in a month or so. How long it takes varies from one person to another. So patience is needed, unfortunately. ;)

he told me it would be longer than that. but like you said, it varies.

The Oopster 05-31-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 118933)
Pretty quick, actually. I think the beard started in a couple of weeks and voice in a month or so. How long it takes varies from one person to another. So patience is needed, unfortunately. ;)

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 118935)
he told me it would be longer than that. but like you said, it varies.

Once i went to the shots my voice dropped probably within a week or so ... I know it was fairly quickly. facial and body hair actually is still a slow process. However my lower body is pretty hairy but I think that was helped out by applying to cream for a couple of years although it didn't really take off until I started the shots. Fortuntately I'm lazy and not thrilled with shaving all the time so am not disappointed with the facial hair although I would like sideburns ... am working on them again. Pretty much no chest hair eaither but I sort of like having a chest that looks like a teenager.

My pleasant surprise has been hand hair although it's not real noticeable.

I'm fortunate also that i don't seem to perspire like others. In fact a female friend of my mine was sweating terribly at a function last night and I just don't have that problem.

Dylan 05-31-2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 118928)
How long was before you started seeing the effects of testosterone injected?

My mental outlook changed immediately...like within minutes, but I think that had to do with so much hullaballoo around actually getting the T in the first place.

I saw changes of different sorts within the first two weeks. It took about a month before my voice changed...although, other people noticed a change sooner than that.

Hair started sprouting pretty quickly. Maybe a couple weeks or a month.

Hair line changed within about 4ish months, and I thinned out up there a little.

It's both faster and slower than I thought it would be when it comes to physical changes. The things I want seem awfully slow, and the things I don't really care about or didn't want are coming much sooner than expected.

But, like you said...it feels right, and I guess I just won't have a flowing, Fabio-hair (but I've never had Flowing Fabio-hair anyways, but I also wasn't hoping to look like Friar Tuck either).

I'm still wondering how long it takes for the T to make me six foot 2 though


Dylan

Jet 05-31-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 118964)
My mental outlook changed immediately...like within minutes, but I think that had to do with so much hullaballoo around actually getting the T in the first place.

I saw changes of different sorts within the first two weeks. It took about a month before my voice changed...although, other people noticed a change sooner than that.

Hair started sprouting pretty quickly. Maybe a couple weeks or a month.

Hair line changed within about 4ish months, and I thinned out up there a little.

It's both faster and slower than I thought it would be when it comes to physical changes. The things I want seem awfully slow, and the things I don't really care about or didn't want are coming much sooner than expected.

But, like you said...it feels right, and I guess I just won't have a flowing, Fabio-hair (but I've never had Flowing Fabio-hair anyways, but I also wasn't hoping to look like Friar Tuck either).

I'm still wondering how long it takes for the T to make me six foot 2 though


Dylan

heh...I wish it would height hehe

Jet 06-01-2010 04:15 PM

Good news
my insurance WILL cover my T

Linus 06-01-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 119729)
Good news
my insurance WILL cover my T

Congrats! That's a regular expensive cost covered. :)

Jet 06-01-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 119730)
Congrats! That's a regular expensive cost covered. :)

Thanks Its good to get that piano off my back.

theoddz 06-01-2010 06:11 PM

Let's see.....it took about a good year, or better, for my voice to drop all the way. I can't sing anymore. :(

I must have hairy lineage because my beard started to fill in the first year and here at 3.5 years, my legs and arms are pretty hairy and I have a nice crop of chest and tummy hair. I'm lucky in the facial hair department, too, and have no problem growing a nice (trimmed) full beard. Right now, due to the heat and my work, I'm just keeping a close trimmed mustache and goatee, with earlobe-long sideburns, and everyone seems to think that looks very nice on me.

I'm also hot natured (my endocrine system doesn't work quite right) and I was raised in the deep (humid) Deep South, so I already had a bazillion sweat glands. Add T to that mix and....ya....well, I sweat by the buckets. I drip, especially from my head (hence my keeping a nice military style buzz cut) and my back. Oh, and Tabs tells me that I have back hair, too. :|

I guess I'm what you'd call a "Bear". :|

~Theo~ :bouquet:

atomiczombie 06-01-2010 06:38 PM

I am a little bit past the 3 week mark on the gel. Only thing I have noticed is a little acne. But my endo doc started me on a low dose of the gel, and in a week or so after she gets the results of my up-coming blood test, if all looks right she will double what I am applying now. I'm pretty jealous of you guys on the shots and the fast changes you have experienced, but I keep saying to myself, no matter how long it takes, I am on the path and moving in the right direction.

Glad to hear your insurance will pay for your T, Jet. Mine does too, and I was pleasantly surprised.

Jet 06-01-2010 07:33 PM

Nothing has happened yet.
When I get facial hair, I'll shave. (it's my style, I actually don't care about a beard and all.)
I start my second week at 200 cc this week.

Sam 06-01-2010 08:08 PM

Where do ya'll take your shot usually?

The skin on my hips are getting pretty tough.

As i just injected, im curious.

Jet 06-01-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 119862)
Where do ya'll take your shot usually?

The skin on my hips are getting pretty tough.

As i just injected, im curious.

Thigh.......after he injected the T my thigh was really sore the next couple of days then it subsided

Sam 06-01-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 119864)
Thigh.......after he injected the T my thigh was really sore the next couple of days then it subsided

Into the muscle?

i have no issues with soreness in my hip area, my shot giver says that the area is getting tough.

The Oopster 06-01-2010 08:25 PM

Take the front part of your upper thigh and split it in half.... i was taught to do it in the outer front half up close to where your underwear briefs would end. There are less veins up there and out there and I find it rarely hurts at all unless i hit a vein by chance. Otherwise i rarely have any soreness. If I do it down too far or in too far i tend to hit a vein or have soreness. I have no explanation to why but for some reason if I do get a lump it's on my left side ... no clue why on the left and not on the right. sometimes it itches too. But never on the right.

I use to give myself b-12 shots all the time further down always had soreness and problems with veins and when I was showed how to do T shots the dr said the trick was to do it in the area i described.

If i'm doing them every week i alternate sides. Now that i'm doing them every 10 days i'm just doing them on the right since that seems to be my easy side

Linus 06-01-2010 08:28 PM

Ya. I second Oopster's comments. I think it could be related to preferential leg as well as fat distribution (you have more fat on the upper thigh).

Sam 06-01-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Oopster (Post 119870)
Take the front part of your upper thigh and split it in half.... i was taught to do it in the outer front half up close to where your underwear briefs would end. There are less veins up there and out there and I find it rarely hurts at all unless i hit a vein by chance. Otherwise i rarely have any soreness. If I do it down too far or in too far i tend to hit a vein or have soreness. I have no explanation to why but for some reason if I do get a lump it's on my left side ... no clue why on the left and not on the right. sometimes it itches too. But never on the right.

I use to give myself b-12 shots all the time further down always had soreness and problems with veins and when I was showed how to do T shots the dr said the trick was to do it in the area i described.

If i'm doing them every week i alternate sides. Now that i'm doing them every 10 days i'm just doing them on the right since that seems to be my easy side

Thanks i will try that next week. btw im glad surgery went well for you.

Jet 06-02-2010 05:59 AM

here's what he told me last week:

Use the zig zag method on injections. (now I have to call him again; I forgot it) LOL
He injected it in my thigh. Hurtful little bastard.
He started me very slow (100cc) so it won't affect the heart.
Injection is the strongest available method
And injecting the T instead of using oral bypasses the liver.

He also said creams and orals won't deliver, they're too mild. (Hey, this is what he told me.)

I pick 200cc this weekend to administer every other week TFN

Libido will skyrocket
Moods will swing
These are temporary.
I could get acne and baldness if I'm predisposed.

He said, "are you ready for your first injection?"
I said, "hit me."

Jet 06-02-2010 06:05 AM

Sidebar:

My family will shit. Especially the uncle that I duked it out with over being gay.

The Oopster 06-02-2010 01:36 PM

If anyone every needs it I could send ya a copy of the letter I sent my family. It would have to be as a pdf file since my computer was stolen and i'm too lazy to retype the thing. But I could easily scan the copy I saved for myself.

My family was mixed. Brother disowned me, but didn't surprise me. Hardest part has been no contact with my nephews. The youngest just turned 18 but has one more year at home since he was held back. Once he graduates I'm going to send him and his brother a bried note with birthday/graduation/christmas money and let them make their own decisions. Won't go into anything deep within them just let them know that they get to make their own decision and if they ever want to talk about it I'm here and even if they chose not to have me in their life at this time the door is always open.

Parents are better then I thought. It's not a huge topic of discussion and they live 1000 miles away. However I haven't gone home. Sometimes I'd like to but I guess I just don''t want to put them in an uncomfortable situation.

Jet 06-03-2010 07:11 PM

Correction of typo

I receive 1oo miligrams/1cc
lol
you guys prolly think the doc is crazy
2cc starting this week

Jet 06-03-2010 07:14 PM

since i'm going to go thru puberty, do i get to have wet dreams? ha!

Dylan 06-03-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 121800)
Correction of typo

I receive 1oo miligrams/1cc
lol
you guys prolly think the doc is crazy
2cc starting this week

I was wondering how often you're supposed to do the 2cc


Dylan

betenoire 06-03-2010 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet (Post 121800)
Correction of typo

I receive 1oo miligrams/1cc
lol
you guys prolly think the doc is crazy
2cc starting this week

I'm glad you corrected your typo. I was having a good chuckle to myself over the idea of you trying to inject a nearly a full CUP of liquid. Cuz, you know, 200cc = 200ml = nearly a cup. (240-ish ml in a cup)

Jet 06-03-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 121875)
I was wondering how often you're supposed to do the 2cc


Dylan


starting this week and then every 2 weeks as i understand it.
He initially wrote my Rx for 6 weeks, but then my insurance co. covers rx for 30 days at a time
So he re-prescribed my Rx; when i go pick these up on Saturday, i'll see if he changed the dosage every 2 weeks
bear with, i'm new at this.

T D 06-04-2010 08:08 PM

Where are you in your transition? Got my first injection today 100mg
How long have you been on T? 2 hours LOL
How much T do you take on a bi weekly or monthly basis? It's gonna be 100mg for a while
How does your body react to your shot intake? So far so good
Are you pre or post op top and or bottom? Pre-op. Was going to do top surgery first, but won't have funds until early next year.

Where and Who did your surgeries? Help others out. If you have questions, ask them here. I'm pretty sure I'll be using Brownstein in SF

I'm 58 years old and have been thinking about this day for over 20 years. My mom had a heart attack in March, and a quadruple bypass. My step dad of nearly 50 years died 25 days later of complications from a heart valve replacement... These two events left me wondering this.... "when is it MY time?" I decided then and there, IT'S NOW!

There ya have it.

added: I meant..... "when is it MY time to LIVE for ME". Just wanted to clarify that ;)



Jet 06-04-2010 08:13 PM

Congrats TD!

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Originally Posted by T D (Post 122841)
Where are you in your transition? Got my first injection today 100mg
How long have you been on T? 2 hours LOL
How much T do you take on a bi weekly or monthly basis? It's gonna be 100mg for a while
How does your body react to your shot intake? So far so good
Are you pre or post op top and or bottom? Pre-op. Was going to do top surgery first, but won't have funds until early next year.

Where and Who did your surgeries? Help others out. If you have questions, ask them here. I'm pretty sure I'll be using Brownstein in SF

I'm 58 years old and have been thinking about this day for over 20 years. My mom had a heart attack in March, and a quadruple bypass. My step dad of nearly 50 years died 25 days later of complications from a heart valve replacement... These two events left me wondering this.... "when is it MY time?" I decided then and there, IT'S NOW!

There ya have it.



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