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[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW8puRqE4Sc&feature=related"]YouTube - When the World Stopped Turning: A 9/11 tribute[/nomedia]

This is a little victory for all of the people that had loved ones die on 9/11 and symbolically cutting the head off the snake so to speak....the President gave an awesome speech i think and a well deserved thank you to all of our military...
what a way to die...in a nice big mansion using women as human shields... unlike all the innocent victims of 9/11

It's not silly at all. This is what Presidents do, this is what citizens expect of their President. It doesn't matter if people already know, it's his duty to stand before this country and deliver the news.

Maybe you'll feel better about it after Donald Trump examines the body *giggle*

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The collective GOP brain must be exploding right now. Not only will this news knock them off the front page for a bit, it's going to make this a bad time to criticize Obama. Plus there's that whole favorables are going to soar thing - his poll numbers are probably already up. The final kicker is going to be this September, when the country observes the 10th anniversary knowing that Obama was responsible for finding and killing OBL.

Im glad Binladin is dead,now I wanna see the body......

Was anyone else disturbed by the fact that all the celebrants of this EVENT appeared to be under 30 and were acting like they were at a kegger, and they JUST happened to have BIG American flags in their closet saved just for THIS day? Sorry but I was embarrased, as an American by the display, and I feel like it was SETUP, prior to the announcement. I heart Obama, but his ratings have been in the tank, and I believe this has much to do with the presidential race of 2012. Timely news after all of the Trump speak, the tornadoes, and the Royal Wedding....pretty good news bites on a slow news day....If the dude is dead, good, he was not a nice fellow, but killing the head does not kill the body. Or maybe I'm just cranky,lol.

At first I was stunned, even a bit numb- then personal memories about 9/11 and loss struck.. phone calls to friends and a cousin in new York. Then, thoughts of how horrible this decade has been for our country. There is a generation of our military that have been going through hell and back again, and again!

I even felt strange feeling joy over his being killed. I wondered how this could help the families of 9/11 victims- and then thought about the USS Cole, the first WTC bombing, the London subway bombings, several other slaughters by Bin Laden’s supporters all over the world including thousands of Muslims as well as attacks within the last couple of weeks. Then, I decided I didn't feel badly about our going in and just killing him.

And I too, love it that it was Obama standing up there giving us this news. Eat that, GOP!! But, I also would like to see some unification in the US. I'm tired of the banter and no real solutions to the really big problems we have. Sick of being a cynic. I want some healing. And I want our troops to come home- but this isn't going make this happen any sooner. But it might give our troops a lift!

I'm looking foreword to reports on all of the details of how this all unfolded. GeeZus... Obama was just cracking jokes at the Correspondent’s dinner yesterday and he had given the order to go with this plan the day before!! Yup, life turns on a dime.

Of course the president should make these kinds of announcements in an official manner! That is part of his duty to us. This is a big and important national announcement concerning a long and painful time for us. But Bin Laden’s ugly hand has been behind the killing of many, many innocent people all over the world.

I just read something on Huff Post about everyone with flags. Apparently, as soon as people started gathering, the folks from Servicemember's United dug a bunch of leftover flags out of their closet (heh) and ran down there and started passing them out. I take a little bit of joy in the fact that everyone is waving *gay* flags around.

As for the rest of it, I'm mostly just conflicted. While I do have a small urge to put out the flag, I'm finding it difficult to "celebrate" anyone's death. I would say that I'm feeling more somber than celebratory right now.

They buried him at sea. The Freepers and conspiracy folks are gonna have a field day with this. The GOP is probably crafting attacks; after all, they've already given credit for this to Bush....

A Marine
 

I'd like to thank our Armed services for their dedication and sacrifice in accomplishing this mission. I hope the families and friends of those killed at ground zero, the Pentagon, that field in PA, and those killed fighting the war on terrorism can find some closure and maybe some peace in their lives now.
" Let the whole world know that today is a day of recogning, let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong, cast your stone away, let the guilty pay.... it's Independence day!"

I know I might be putting my lefty card in peril, but I do have an "Old Glory" in my closet. And I hang it on July 4th and Veteran's and Memorial Days (for service members past in my family). have put up a "Rainbow," too. It will be out tomorrow- more for the 9/11 victims and those that were involved in this mission.

Also, in DC, flags can be bought in every 24 hour convenience store around. There were quite a few service members that were at that rally and in NYC- makes sense that SM United would hand out flags. I can understand people wanting to gather and wave flags around this. But, I am having some somber feelings myself because this has made me think so much about this entire decade and all that has stemmed from 9/11 not the least of which are the deaths of over 5000 of our troops and countless civilians. And our lives in terms of security being changed forever as well as all of the hateful sentiments toward Muslims and Islam when the majority are as opposed
to any terrorist activity. And the really sad thing is that we will never be the same as before 9/11. hell, airport security keeps taking on new dimensions and whacko legislators hold bigoted hearings in the name of "national security."

I'm glad that younger people are out there as most of those we have lost in the Iraq & Afghanistan wars are very young. Why wouldn't there be a generational connection among these young people? One was quoted as saying that this was like “VJ Day” for their generation. I kind of get that (although, the struggle against terrorist activity will be forever with us).

Yup, somber- I totally get that.

I wish they would have taken him alive. A trial would be what I would prefer to outright killing him.

I guess I am a cynic also... or else my inner conspiracy theorist has been jump started, but I find it a tad odd that no photos of his body have been released. When Saddam was located, the photos of him being taken into custody and while in custody were all over the world. His hanging was public and ran every two minutes on every news channel.
Bin Laden was the WORLD's most wanted terrorist, shot in the head, body recovered for DNA testing, buried at sea and no one had a cell with a camera? I think if they had time to do DNA research to confirm his identity, they would have had ample time to find a suitable photo of his corpse to release, because ( and I apologize for the cynicism) there is no way in hell those soldiers would not have taken photos of him. This is a HOORAH moment without a doubt, but I will probably reserve my celebration until I see the photos. It's kind of like the infamous "weapons of mass destruction" that weren't there. Bin Laden just feels like another boogeyman or scapegoat in our ongoing struggle with terrorism.

Maybe more shall be revealed in the days and weeks to come. I try to remain open minded, but I tend to prefer evidence. If this helps close a chapter for families and victims of the 9/11 attacks, then I am ever so grateful, because they have suffered far long enough. If it helps send a message to the next "Bin Laden" out there that they too, will be hunted down and killed then good!

Yeah, I hadn't heard about any of this until I woke up today and thus far the story keeps changing and revealing more as the morning progresses. I think it premature to form any "real" opinions about any of the "facts" until it has all had time to be processed.

I am quite sure that any photo of any human shot in the head would be gruesome.

Will just keep listening as things unfold.

I don't mean to rain on folks parade, much less piss in the collective Wheaties...
This is my opinion...
What if said "snake" is a Hydra?...
Cut off one head, 3 more shoot up, and no I do not agree with the analogy of a Presidential assassination for that very reason..There IS such a thing as Presidential line of Succession...
Mr. President died? Ok Mr. Vice-Prez takes over, they shot him too?? Ok, NEXT.....
I too am glad there's one less Terrorist, however I will agree with a few in saying this was a very very public Headhunting expedition for a very long time, and they claim they "Buried" his ass in the Ocean in accordance to supposed Islamic Laws?
Are you aware that there's no such thing as dumping a dead corpse in the Ocean being mandatory funeral service?...
Yes, the corpse must be washed. by Loved ones, it also must be enshrouded in pure cotton, and returned to the EARTH within 24 hrs, quite similar in reasons as Judaic mandates.
When I heard the Ocean deal, 2 things popped up in my head
a-} This will be fodder for skeptics and conspiracy theorists galore [like another poster here]
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b-} All these years, hunting that little prick, starting wars, killing civilians left and right and of course Service men and women..and they dump his fucking body rather quickly in the Ocean after a covert Shoot-out in a Country that has had the U.S. of A stepping on eggshells for years???
It's kind of fishy, hell I even thought "Well, maybe the SEALS in their pissed off hyperness just Threw him overboard to be done with the headache"..
But then, where's the Proof of either capture, death or Success, other than their "solemn" word....
Someone even pointed out it could be a Double for Osama, I kind of doubt it, Obama did say after quite some time of verifying stuff, he gave the "ok", and yes I'm aware Obamas public rating is in the floor for quite a few reasons...
One of them is people expected him to be mr. superman-fix-it-all-NOW, apparently ignoring the fact a President can't do much w/o Congress...
My final pet peeve is, do you remember when 9/11 occured? I'm more than sure that is ingrained in our memories like a very bad nightmare come true.
When they broadcast all those Peasants, all of those "anti-Amrikan" muslims in faraway Countries...Singing and Dancing...
The bitter sting of being disrespected in such a way that many americans commited quite a few hate crimes by Attacking anyone remotely Identified with either Islam, or the stereotype of Islam...
Who's to say those people on tv, singing and dancing..
Chanting U.S.A as if we were in the Olympics and winning Gold medals, don't provoke the exact same bitterness in other Countries that quite seriously detest U.S. Policies on "helping" other countries?...
We should've been the Better Man, it's great we're pleased there's closure for those victims Families, but we should've done our own "praising" without throwing a very visible Party over the Death of a very dangerous man who lead a very Fanatic terrorist Faction.
They did worse? Ok, true..
But, like my momma always asked..
"If your friends Jumped off the fucking bridge, u gonna do it too?"

Again, just my 2cents
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I'm with you- as usual, reporting and source checking via all of the news networks is on rapid fire. There is a lot we do not know about yet. But, you can bet there will people that doubt every single thing about this- there always is. Photo rigging, the timing in terms of political gain, etc. The fact is that we do not get the details of every step in these kinds of situations.

Like you- I can wait for some information that isn't mixed in the heat of the moment. But, the na-sayers will say nay... the level of distrust about government in the US today runs deep. Some of it, I understand, some of it I don't- some is irrational.

Yup.... taking my time with allowing things to unfold. I do absolutely believe he is dead and I am much more interested in the Pakistan factor in why he was where he was for so long. But, have to wait for the goods on that, too. But it does bother me that people are bashing the US government, military and Obama, but are not questioning Pakistan's role in why the hell he was 5 miles from their highest military training academy and 35 miles from their capital.

:fastdraq:I have to see his cold dead carkus before i beleive it!:fastdraq:

Ok, so he's dead. There might be some sense of accomplishment or feeling that the bogeyman is dead but that's all he was, a bogeyman.

The islamist extremist / jihadist threat was always and has always been much more than about Bin Laden even if sometimes the western media have personified the threat through Bin Laden. By all accounts, Bin Laden had limited practical leadership for most of the last decade and, in any event, there are thousands ready and willing to take his place.

I'd celebrate if a war was won or terrorism was defeated. However, that's not the case. No celebrations from my (admittedly non-American) perspective.

I, as always, am suspicious. I wonder if Presidents really know what is going on? Do they tell them the truth? Who is they?

If indeed he is dead, I would like to see our troops come home and given the medical and mental health assistance they need to return to their lives.

"do you want to play a game??""
 

It's all good. Apretty's got this. She's locked and loaded with her guns ready.....one in the chamber. Right now she's got our condo on heightened security lock down, def con "orange".

However, I have to worry about her judgement! She's been up in our cul-de-sac partying all night with our neighbors!

Yippee ki-yay muthas


send healing light and your prayers!

He's been dead for awhile. This poor lady Benazir Bhutto was murdered after this.

exactly this:

It's a somber household here, I now worry about my life long friend Dickie Padilla who's over in the middle east, our brothers, sisters, parents and children out there on the frontlines.

It's not a time to celebrate for me, I just hope they come home soon.

What she said!

An interesting perspective that echoes my feelings...

http://http://truthout.org/chris-hed...ath/1304343151

...specifically this portion: "When I was in New York, as some of you were, on 9/11, I was in Times Square when the second plane hit. I walked into The New York Times, I stuffed notebooks in my pocket and walked down the West Side Highway and was at Ground Zero four hours later. I was there when Building 7 collapsed. And I watched as a nation drank deep from that very dark elixir of American nationalism … the flip side of nationalism is always racism, it’s about self-exaltation and the denigration of the other."

I think this is complex. I've been listening to Al-Jazeera and Npr this morning, and I've also been reading different friends' from different circles reactions.

My understanding is that many Pakistanis feel their sovereignty has been violated. Also, possibly that the command was to kill him rather than to capture OR kill. There is the hope that since he was found in a city rather than in the hills between Afghanistan and Pakistan, that maybe there can be negotiation for the drone strikes to stop now.

A Marine stationed in Afghanistan was interviewed on NPR and he stated the general mood where he was stationed was mixed relief along with the knowledge that they have at least 6 more months to go. They have not been celebrating but have been cautiously discussing the event with Afghanis, and he said the people in the area where he is have said it's good bin Laden is dead.

There is a story that bin Laden's wife threw herself in front of him and shielded him with her body - and that she was killed too - and there was a mention of how that sort of story is likely to be seen as heroic.

The fact he was buried at sea has also been discussed. Many Americans are talking about conspiracy theories or at least distrust regarding the information given. One of the interviewees on Al Jazeera said it was probably done because it was practical. That if they had buried him, his burial place could have become a shrine and that it would have been inappropriate to bring him back to the US. I suppose I like the sea burial better than having pictures of his dead and mangled body on the front cover of newspapers and on tv (like they did with Saddam's sons under Bush), but to me it seems very weird to dump his body at sea before anybody starts asking hard questions. I do hope all this means that things can become more peaceful and that the world can stop being so us-against-them for a while. (no matter which us and which them).

A girl I've know since elementary school now lives in Turkey. This was her reaction last night: A decade and a pan-Middle East genocide later, he's dead. The MOST conservative estimates put the number of civilian deaths across Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq at around 300,000. So, please excuse me if I don't join in on the jubilation.

I think it's important to remember that although bin laden was (as I see it) a villain, al qaeda's success in radicalizing young Muslims has been fed a great deal by what has been perceived as injustice toward Muslims as well.