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So I happen to be a Femme Top I've had my hair short and long and not once during my short hair trial was I having "Tweener Butch Tendencies" I'm not sure what that really means or implies perhaps you could shed a light on what you mean? I personally find your post to be WRONG, SEXIST and LACKING EDUCATION regarding gender appropriation. |
Wow, simply Wow!
I have short hair and I don't think it makes me masculine... Hair doesn't make the woman... I cut my hair short as it is easier to manage since I have tons of it... I probably handle power tools better than most, does that make me less than? Does that mean someone will show up and take my femme card away? Pretty sad that you associate someone's hair length with how femme they are or aren't. It is comments like that that make me sick... nothing but assumptions... Quote:
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Your views are narrow, but I'm glad to see that you are able to see that for yourself. The length of someone's hair does not denote their procivities in one way or another. Again, it's their hair and they can do whatever they want with it be it braid it, shave it, flatten it, curl it, or cut it. You, as someone whose hair is not in question, do not have any say in the matter as it is not your hair and your head. I hope I've helped clear up some of your confusion. |
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Better yet how about you don't roll up into The FEMME Zone with that kind of sexist shit.
That would be AWESOME! |
My hair has been long, longer, short, very short, curly, straight, half shaved/half long and every style and colour combination imaginable. At no point was I more or less femme than I am now because that's who I am and who I have always been.
Last weekend I was mixing cement in a bucket to fill in rat holes and at the same time having a minor melt down because I couldn't find the shade of eye shadow (pink but not toooo pink) that I wanted. Our hair doesn't make us who we are, any of us. It is my pleasure to know, very well, one damn fine butch with long hair ;) I hope this helps you LuckyButch. p.s. I have since found the eye shadow (I didn't want anyone losing sleep over that). Crisis over! lol |
Flutter so glad you found the shade of *Pink* you were looking for...
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This entire post from you... Makes me want to show you what a FEMME TOP I am and beat your sorry bottom butch ass. How dare you come in here with your misogynistic sexist and narrow minded view - In the FEMME ZONE? Julie |
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I am both appalled and disappointed by this post. Leads me to wonder if 1982 is your birth year, but even so that is no excuse. My son was born on that year and I must tell you he would never even think, let alone express, such narrow minded thoughts. Besides 30 is not that young. In this day and age I expect more from the younger generation. I think you need to step back and do some real processing and think real hard about what some wonderful women have replied about your post. Perhaps even come back and apologize for your sexist, misogynistic, narrow minded and ignorant opinion. |
Oh dear. I am guessing that you were asserting your preference for femmes with long hair and inadvertently (I hope) inserted your foot into your mouth. Again, I hope.
For me, like Julie, I have had a shaved head, super long hair, medium length, short, and pretty much everything in between. When it's long I wear it up in an Audrey Hepburn type of do. It was starting to get very thin on top from years of being pulled back, so when my partner and I both went through cancer last year, I went short. And I love it! I'm honestly not sure I will ever grow it long again! My femininity has nothing to do with my outward appearance and everything to do with who I am inside. Am I any less femme because I can do the same work (and sometimes harder AND better) a masculine identified person can? Um, that would be no. This is so not the place for heteronormative, misogynistic stereotypes. |
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I would do a semi-permanent dark blue on hair at the nape of the neck (maybe a quarter of your crown) so it peaks out..that's hot right now..and it'd look amazing also..but it will wash out, so you don't have to live with it if you get tired of it. I'd leave it long in back & do something dramatic with in front but that's just me.
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I call it hair liberation and for me it is a deliberate act... Why I cut my hair... I cut my hair because I can.. I cut my hair because my being butch or femme does NOT depend on how I might look or present, but how I feel inside. I use clippers on my hair because I love extremes and stepping out of any box that the world might put me in... I cut my hair so I can grow it back out again, so I can shave it all off... It's a three year cycle.. I shave my hair off because attitudes like yours made me feel like I was less than if I cut my hair.... I can't allow that.. |
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So, if I wear a skirt while mixing concrete, think my femme card is safe? |
Random, I would like to think that your femme card is safe or anyone else's for that matter. We all brings something beautiful to the table so to speak. Rock it!
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I have never had short hair, nor have I ever had the desire to. I think long flowing hair is beautiful on a femme and perfect to run fingers through! My opinion is that long hair is a girly thing. I have 3 daughters all whom have long hair. At one point or another, one of them have said they wanted to cut their hair short. I have told them, if God wanted me to have little boys, he would have gave me little boys, not little girls. :) This is my opinion only...and to each his/her own!
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Makes me think of the saying, "If God wanted people to be gay, God would have made Adam and Steve, not Adam and Eve." :blink:
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wow. why is it that people associate long hair with being female? i mean -that is biologically essentialist and somewhat transmisogynist on top of being really upsetting in general.
personally i am femme and have had long hair, short hair, and shaved (bald) hair. because my hair is super thick, frizzy, and dry, i prefer it either long or bald - currently it's long. but i was no less femme when i was bald...and actually it was emotionally and physically an extremely affirming thing for me as a femme when i did go bald. specifically because my whole life people have attached so much meaning to my hair and i've felt a lot of pain and pressure because of it - shaving allowed me to let go of a lot of that bullshit. but then again, a lot of folks might not think i'm femme enough since i wear jeans and t-shirts pretty often, too. :poc-eyeroll: i henna my hair using body art quality henna powder mixed with lemon juice, and i use coconut oil to make it more manageable. i've never used chemical dyes over henna but if the henna and the chemical dyes are both good, your hair shouldn't fall out. however, because henna binds to the hair unlike chemical dyes (it's reallllllly permanent), you may have some weird color reactions if you try to dye over it. that's why i usually don't recommend henna to folks who are really into getting specific color results or who use chemical dyes a lot. |
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I am sure this wasn't your intention, but this "opinion" may come across as insensitive to some here. And it's kind of surprising to me to find this opinion on a butch-femme-genderqueer forum. Lots of butch women/trans were forced to wear dresses, have long hair, and the like. Gender is fluid and if your daughters are truly "girly" short hair can never take that away from them. And if they are not girly, it's better to let them be whoever they are. I don't usually get into the God thing, but since you did, God made everyone and there is a great variation in gender and gender expression and I am soooo glad for that! Without it the butch/femme dynamic wouldn't exist. Have a happy 4th. |
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Is there even such a thing? femme enough? I used to have thick long hair, wavy and if I let it air dry it was full of curls. Many people complimented me on it. But due to an ailment I had to let it get cut off and wear it shorter now...and feel no less femme than I have before with long hair...and it goes and looks good with ANY clothes I choose to wear. If someone would automatically consider me being butch because I have shorter hair I would feel insulted. Not that being a butch is something wrong..of course not (I looove butches...lol)...but it's just not ME. Personally I despise this whole stereotype 'put in a box thing'..like first sight..'ah..you belong in that box or the other'....or 'oh...she has long hair, must be a femme then'.... And what about bio men who like to wear long hair? Are they femmes too?..lol..no, but seriously: Nothing (hairdo, type clothes, make up or not, toolbox in the hand or not...lol) can 'change' me or make me feel less femme than what I am truly inside! |
My apologies for seeming insensitive. I guess I should just insert foot into mouth and lower my head. I'm sorry. Please forgive me.
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My thoughts EXACTLY....I just recently went through this with someone I met...she firmly stated " I cannot date you because you have short hair" Really???? My hair rocks!!! Long hair doesn't look right on me...and I am femme to the core!! |
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PS: I mean, just look at Halle Berry or Sharon Stone with short hair...hello..??..omg!...they're stunningly beautiful..and totally feminine! http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Cn5F6J5oyz...t%252BHair.jpg http://www.fashionstylestrend.com/wp...inema.May_.jpg |
Thank you Kitty4U!!
You are absolutely right....I guess everyone likes what they like...has their own opinions....it's a sensitive subject for me....seems around where I live, short hair is a downfall. But hey! Their loss, right? Someone will snap me up when they decide to look past the cover and actually open the book...:D |
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I want to see your lovely locks. I betcha you look absolutely fabulous! and I too simply look better with shorter hair, yes... the eyebrow karma is a very good thing and yes, though I am loathe to admit it, I am a vain fucker too, aren't we all on some level or another? :rainbowAfro: |
hair, it grows back
Hey ladies..
I LOVE hair, I mess with mine at least once a week or once every 2 weeks.. My momma always tells me, "your hair is gonna fall out" well momma its been many moons and it hasnt fallen out yet!! Have fun with your hair it grows back lol.. |
I had the one of the worst hair experiences with a salon less than a couple of weeks ago. I was getting my hair cut (donated to Locks of Love!) and colored for the Reunion and things seemed to be fine at first. I loved the style and the way the color turned out, but when I woke up the next morning, it looked like I had beaten Barney and/or Grimmace to death while in bed. :(
One side of my face, my hands and my sheets and pillows were stained purple. Not purple in a 'that's a normal amount of transfer for a new semi-permanent coloring' but a 'the bitch didn't rinse all of the product out of my hair' thing! After fighting with the manager about having the stylist redo my hair and Luvs calling back again once I'd gone to work, I got in later that day for the stylist to remedy the issue and that's when things got really ugly. She begrudgingly washed my hair (after only wanting to dab some cotton to my head....which I already did that morning so that I could go to work without purple smeared down my face) and then started to restyle it. I was turned away from the mirror and didn't see how badly she was damaging my hair until I smelled the burning. She absolutely fried my hair in several sections. I mean, that hair has been completely singed and now is the texture of a scrubbing brush. Brutal! Then she started snipping at my hair to cut off the burnt ends, winding up with a similar but different cut than what I had and what liked. The sad irony? After all that....the redo and the burning of my hair and it being cut into a less pleasing style....she still left product in my hair, which I had to wash out at home that night. :blink: I paid 2 c notes for that treatment too. Well, they will NOT be getting any more of my money and I have blacklisted them with anyone that will listen. I did, however, learn that Ulta has a salon inside their store and the stylists there seem to be much better and the prices are better too. It's a win win for the next time I go in, but for now....I have weeks to months of hair growing before all of the singed hair will be gone. Sad! (w) |
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In my former career of beauty (hairdressing), this was exactly how I built my clientele - solving lots of miscarriages of service: color, styling, cuts, service (big emphasis on service). Just know I'd help you in a heartbeat if you lived out here on the west coast, Gemme. :rrose: |
^5 Katzchen thank god for ppl like urself , I just cut all my long hair off .. first last spring i cut about 7 " off then 3 weeks ago i cut it all off . and I LOVE IT !! the tops and sides are layered. I had a hairdresser do the length .. It's a very piecey cut .. sexy when i bloe it out .. boppy when i leave it curly. I did the layering myself. for some reason I cant find a good hairdresser that can cut and style curly hair. I can't wear a straight cut hair style ..
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Mine is getting long cant wait to wear a braid again.
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I've been growing out my hair since 2007 and am pondering chopping it all off once the weather is warm again. Thing is, I do a lot of photoshoots and work at bar events where I'd like to have long hair to do pinup styles. Does anyone have experience using wigs for stuff like that?
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I wasn't sure where to ask this question, so I thought this might be the most appropriate thread.
I use a dandruff shampoo. I don't have dandruff, I have neurotic tendencies where germs are concerned. That aside, it seems to have left my scalp smelling kinda odd (or maybe I am just being neurotic again). What can I do to bring a nice scent to my scalp? Aromatic shampoos, conditioners do not help. So, my question is, can I add a few drops of lavender essential oil to my shampoo/conditioner and let that sit on my scalp a while without fearing hair loss/scalp burns? I know that some essential oils, if not heavily diluted, can burn or cause irritation. I thought someone here might be well-versed in this area. Thanks! :clover: |
I have waist long, straight (a bit frizzy:furious:), natural brown hair. I love long hair, most of the time I wear a... wait, what is the translation for "Gretchenzopf"... ah, a Heidi braid. :lol2:
I like short hairstyles as well, they can be very feminine. |
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You could also blow dry it. Before anyone throws something at me, letting it air dry might give it a "funk" No oils!!! |
I know that wigs get a bad wrap but have you thought about trying one? I've got a couple since I have kinda crazy purple short hair and I love them. They give you a change anytime you want it without any commitment. Just a thought!
My other thought is that it's just hair. It grows back and if you don't like it, wig! ;) |
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