You do whatever you do best, to get you through you day.

As far as sleep goes... Magnesium is fabulous, Gamma Amino Butyric Acid andSuntheanine. Melatonin makes me wired.

I live on Turmeric. One of the best I have found in terms of Turmeric is Maximized Curcuminoids. This is actually extracted (Curcuminoids) from the Turmeric root. I found this is much more potent than straight Turmeric and longer lasting as far as pain relief goes.

Julie

She (wife) also makes a mask using Aztec clay -- uses acv, tea tree oil, and some lavender oil. She makes it up every week and does one huge mask, and then spot treatments during the week. She has decided to get completely away from using chemicals on her face. We have also decided to stop using harsh chemicals on our skin too. If we are eating good, why would we want to put perfumed chemicals on ourselves?

We use a veggie spray-- I use to purchase the TJs fruit spray, but it always seemed so "soapy", so we switched to the WholeFoods brand which was more "citrus-y" but also more expensive. So there I go, doing research about fruit/veggie sprays and have found one by using Dr. Bronner's Castile soap. Its basically a 1:3 ratio 1 castile, 3 water. It works really well.

And tumeric is part of the ginger family and is amazing for a lot of things.

I love turmeric. I just started using fresh turmeric and ginger in my tea at night. I basically grate ginger/turmeric, add honey and lemon and then hot water. Its really tasty and I've noticed that I feel wonderful and sleep really good at night.

I'm about to chill out with some Valerian after a long day at the VA with my Pops. Or I might have a glass of red wine. Either way, I bet I won't make it to the Sleepy Time tea tonight - I'm freaking EXHAUSTED!

Speaking of Dr. Andrew Weil... the manufacturer of the supplements I take is Keith Block, M.D. Dr. Weil wrote the forward for Block's book, "Life Over Cancer". In the forward, Dr. Weil said that if he had cancer he would go to Dr. Block's Integrative Cancer Center for his treatment.

Block was not my oncologist, but I met with him for consult for diet and supplements (based on my blood work he ordered), after my cancer treatment.

I need to check into Magnesium for sleep. It seems to be all the rage on this thread!

I just picked up "Life Over Cancer" for my Pops!!

Medusa! That is fantastic! Please read it yourself. It is the way that all of us should eat! The integrative/holistic approach is the best when dealing with cancer. I'm glad that you got it for him.

Absolutely! It's one of those books that I decided to get the electronic copy of as well for myself.

I have read in multiple places that Cancer loves sugar and am trying to remember that every time I crave a Coke or syrupy bullshit. I know there are several other triggers for Cancer and am going to do my best to avoid those things at all costs and also encourage my Pops toward healthier foods.

Looks like a great book so far! :)

I use liquid life. I swear by it. You can buy it in the grocery and drug stores here. Or on line. It's impressive. I drink 1 ounce a day , I swear it gives me energy, and keeps me healthy, I rarely get sick. Not to mention getting all the vitamins and minerals a body needs . It's about 28 dollars a bottle but it's totally worth it. 1 bottle lasts for a month.

JAGG, are you referring to this?

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/all-o...r-32-oz-liquid

I admit, that does look like a good quality list of ingredients there! A lot is covered. Go you!

Yes Dapper that's it !!!! You should try it for a month I bet you will see a huge difference in your body.
Dang I need to buy it on line too. It's much cheaper. lol

I think I will order some. I do already take supplements and veggie powder drinks, so I do thinks things are pretty well covered for me. The idea of only taking 2 tablespoons of something a day is attractive as well, though!

I don't doubt that it does create energy (unlike those "energy drinks").

How did you find out about this drink?

I checked out the list of ingredients and it looks pretty impressive!!
Does it taste ok? I'm always afraid stuff like that will taste awful!

Eh, it's only 2 tablespoons. Just hold your nose!

Okay, so I don't usually publicly discuss controversial healing agents, especially those deemed by the FDA as deadly. Which they are not. It just happens to be an amazing find and the FDA hates this fact (it is cheap) and has cured hundreds of thousands of people and millions have taken it without a single death. Go figure!!!

MMS is simply Chlorine Dioxide and I take it daily. When I was in India, I was covered with open sore mosquito bites all over my body. The doctors were more than concerned I would get Malaria, but I knew different. I was drinking MMS daily and while my sores were ugly, I was working 16 hour days and traveling the country side and should have been sick, beyond sick. I do not share the with many, but I have breast cancer (diagnosed in 2011) and I take MMS daily as a preventative of growth and people, nothing is growing. I believe in this, like some believe in the gospel.

I am going to put some links here and just implore you to read. Jim Humble who founded this in 1996 by accident, has been treating people for free in third world countries. This is not expensive, it is pennies a day and he really does help people.

http://http://jimhumble.org/

http://mmswiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Just keep an open mind.

EDITED: I opted to not have a prophylactic mastectomy or chemo. I chose this route instead.
EDITED AGAIN: Under no circumstances am I suggesting people follow my personal protocol. This was simply MY CHOICE for MY BODY!

Julie

Ok, JAGG, I ordered some. I will let you know what I think!

TF, will actually be a good one to try it. Since she takes no vitamins/supplements (unlike me), her body is a clean slate. She said she is open to trying it.

Hey, Julie, I am sorry to read of your diagnosis. I didn't know you had been having to manage something like this. Please know I respect your choice to not utilize surgery and chemicals to rid yourself of this disease/slow down/stop the growth, of the disease. (f)

Dapper - The only time I remember I have this is when I have to go for my 6 month mammo's and mri's and my 2x a year visit to my breast surgeon and oncologist. Other than that. I completely forget, until something reminds me like this thread. And trust me, my oncologist was not happy with me and my choice. And as far as I know, it could be gone. It is cellular and has not progressed into a mass. I have had a biopsy this then for a benign adenoma - but i am high risk, so any mass it going to be checked immediately. They caught it early, stage 1 and it was found after I had my reconstruction surgery from a previous partial mastectomy.

Yep, tumors FEED off of sugar. That is how they grow. I used to get so pissed when I would go into my chemo infusion room every other week and see the peppermints and candy bowls at the nursing station for the patients. Agh! <they removed them by the time I stopped going there...cough>.

That book, the way one eats, the supplements one might take, etc. is all about making the body inhospitable to cancer. We all have cancer cells, but some people are more predispositioned to getting it. It isn't the predisposition that gives you the cancer, it is whether or not there is environmental factors in your life that can result in the growth of cancer. cancer does not magically appear because your body is predisposed to it based on genetics. Cancer does not grow in a predisposed vaccuum.

I got colon cancer at age 39. I was of average weight/nicely toned body, but ate like shit. I also didn't do any structured exercise, I drank alcohol regularly, did not get enough sleep, did not attend to my emotional health while having a high stress job, and live in a state that is in the top 5 when it comes to getting cancer (poor air quality). Having that predisposition + those factors resulted in my getting cancer. If this was not my environment, there is a good chance I would have never gotten it.

So, now I have to make my body a place cancer has no power to grow in. The foods I eat and the way I take care of my mental health and body is what can keep it from happening. It is about creating an inhospitable place for cancer.

I really need to reread that book. As I sit here writing this with my glass of wine (at least it is wine...and red at that!), all I can think about is how far off the path I have become again...not terribly off the path, but I could do much better. I'm glad for this discussion.

Thanks for sharing all this. I hear you say that you don't think about it, yet at the same time, you live your life doing good things for your body so that your cancer doesn't return (such as taking the correct supplements for you). You have just made fighting cancer a part of living your life.

As an aside, do you take Coq10?

Coq10! I saw some giant bottles of that earlier today at Sam's Club when I stopped to get my Pops a "reward pie" for going to the Oncologist and getting poked.


Have seen a lot of good writings about this one as well. Saw an article a few days ago about studies that were done back in the early 60s where folks who had certain types of Cancer had low levels of Coq10 in their bodies. (and apparently our bodies produce this naturally!!??)

CoQ10 (Ubiquinone,) helps regulate our blood sugar, lowers our blood pressure, helps keep our gums healthy, and all kinds of good stuff. While it is true that our body does make CoQ10, many medications (primarily anti-depressants,) deplete what is made. No daily value has been established, I take 100mg/day, and I can always feel it, when I forget to take it - I feel better when I take CoQ10.

As usual do your homework, and ask your Doctor before taking any supplements.

Wonderful thread, Thank you Medusa.

" The PH Miracle " is another good read regarding inflammation.

I'm currently learning about fermented foods.

"Nourishing Traditions" is an incredible book about Weston Price's work.


"Healing Tooth Decay" is my next purchase. Based on the work of W.Price it focuses on healing dental deficiency through nutrition.


Thank you all for your contributions!

I have a problem with driving at night cause of bad stigmatism (?) in both eyes,recently I got new glasses but the place I got them from didn't do the lenses right so they will be doing them again and right this time,they were supposed to put a h.d. tint on them plus tri focals not bi's.My question is,what can anyone do for tired sore eyes? Driving at night is killing me as my eyes burn and run tears,I have eye drops but can anything work better,even bright lights in a building is an issue at times.I am back to wearing my old pair that have magnetic h.d. shades to use as I need them.

I am high risk for breast cancer and colon cancer. This has been a part of my life for 20 years. So yes, I live my life fighting cancer daily. You are SO RIGHT!

I take a product by Thorne - Q-Best 100 which is Coq10. I also take a bunch of other supplements.

I had a bit a scare last month (really scary) and they found I had a blood clot through a DDimer test (+3400). I thought I was having a heart attack, but it was a blood clot that had most likely broken off. Therefore, I am on natural blood thinners and tons of cardiovascular supplements. My heart and lungs (surprisingly) are strong and young.

I have an appointment next week with my naturalist and we will see where I am at and what supplements we need to add. Since taking her protocol, I feel healthier than I have in years. Though expensive - this is running about $250 a month, but my boss is paying for everything. In contrast to the $6 a month I would be paying for pharmaceuticals :|

I am happy to read Dapper that you are doing so much better since your colon cancer. It is so important for us to be vigilant with our bodies.

Liquid life comes in different flavors. I get mango flavored. It has a strong vitamin after taste. I chase it with a swig of diet coke. Make sure you shake the bottle well to mix it everytime you use it . But I am convinced it is why I have no gray hair and still feel like I did when I was 18. It is made from an ancient root of some sort. They had a factory in Tulsa and my company used to ship it for them. But a few years ago they moved to Ca. That is how I know about them. I have been using it for 16 years.

Medusa-

Every cell in our body has CoQ10. The purpose of CoQ10 is for cellular growth and maintenance. That is pretty much the whole ball of wax when it comes to our body systems, right there!

I think you are referring to a study done in 1961/1962 (?), where they found that people with many different types of cancer (colon, lung, breast, etc), had low amounts of CoQ10. There was some evidence that CoQ10 supplements was helpful to individuals with breast cancer, but I have not heard of any studies replicating this.

Julie-

I use Integrative Therapeutics UBQH.

I hear you about cost. I pay around $300-$350/month. I am fortunate in that I have someone who helps me with the cost, as well. What I take is based off the blood work I did for K. Block, M.D. I was supposed to follow up with more blood work after 6 months, but I am irresponsible like that. It has been 2 years and I have just been ordering the same stuff. I doubt it would change that much, but I do need to follow through.

Medusa - speaking of Block, he was really cool. He was a bit rough looking when I met him because he had just taken the red eye home from a snow boarding trip! He's an old hippy, too.

Finished up my old standby facial moisturizer that was full of shit I couldn't pronounce and am switching to all natural products. Started with vitamin E oil and have some cocoa butter also.

Already loving the vitamin E!

I had no idea about the relevancy to CoQ10 and breast cancer, etc. Really interesting. I am going to check this out. I have used supplements from Integrative Therapeutics. They have great products. And Dapper, I am pretty lazy about blood work as well. I kinda put it on ignore. I find that doctors can make us much sicker than we might actually be.

Medusa - Can you do me a favor and post a link to the Aztec mask. I want to try it with the apple cider vinegar. I wonder if there is something natural out there for puffy eyes and those irritating small lines I am beginning to see on my face (dammit).

This is it:

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You mix this with apple cider vinegar (even says you can on the label) and let it dry, then wash it all off. My face was smooth and balmy like a mushroom when I was done. LOVE this product and it's super cheap considering how much of it you get!

Well, this isn't an herb per se but it is natural:

I have recently discovered a LOVE of coconut oil. Originally picked it up to cook with but have been using it as a lip balm, on my face, and in my hair as a conditioner. I LOVE this stuff. It smells amazing and soaks into dry skin so well.

:)

Coconut oil is excellent for you. Sounds like you have found a lot of uses!

I have recently stopped using shampoo in my hair. A mix of bicarb and water leaves it very clean when I'm pretty dirty or sweaty. A mix of apple cider vinegar and water a couple of times a week when it's less dirty leaves it nice and smooth and it stops smelling when it dries.

Next project is to make my own deodorant. Apparently apple cider vinegar works well on its own but it is quite acidic so I don't know if I want to do that every day. I've got a few patches of skin healing from getting rid of some moles using ACV though, seems to have worked really well.

My partner made deodarant once when she was experimenting. It took her a lot of time and it was messy to make (she says). She poured it into those cupcake paper things. Hard to hold and was messy in the hand, as well. Other thing is that it was really hard on the armpits...didn't really roll on.

Anyway, we (ok, I), just make sure to buy aluminum free deodorant.

The homemade laundry soap she makes works fine, though.

VCO works for me as a deodorant, I kid you not. I was kind of skeptical when I read about it, but tried it anyway. No wet, sticky feeling, and most importantly, no smell after a quick walk around the block. I've thrown out my old deodorant already.

I've been taking a tablespoon spoon of VCO everyday (been giving my dogs the same amount and have seen some really cool benefits on them). I have also blended in a few drops of lavender eo in a pump bottle for my skin.

I'm going to check out the argan oil next as posted by Daktari.

I've stopped using shampoo as well - I use baking soda now. It works really well and leaves my hair soft and not oily or dried out - zero dandruff too. :)

I make my own laundry soap as well - did you already post your recipe? I can go look for it if you did - if not, will you post it?

I used the recipe on this link --> here <--

I got that from FB - I used to belong to a lot of prepper and homesteader FB pages that posted things like the laundry soap recipe, how to make your own neosporin-type salve, cold medicine, decongestant, deodorant, etc.

I am trying to get more of the chemicals out of my life and bring in more natural stuff that works just as well, but cheaper and safer. :winky:

Parker -

Yep, same stuff. Minus the Purex fabric softener. I feel mixed on using the Oxyclean (more chemicals), but TF thinks it is important to keep in there (so we do). I have found most homemade laundry soap receipes (online, anyway), are the same. Pretty standard ingredients.

Our homemade laundry soap comes from my Gayboy, Emmit, and I believe it has shaved up "Zote" soap, washing soda, and rainwater. He also adds some essential oils to make it smell wonderful and it works like a freaking CHARM! I might be forgetting an ingredient though because I haven't started making it myself just yet.

We did try the homemade fabric softener and I DID NOT like the recipe we used. It involved vinegar and made our clothes smell like fucking pickles!!

Parker! I'll ask him for the recipe! He is such a crafty boy an is always making bath bombs for me and laundry soap! Last year he crocheted 2 gorgeous scarves for me and 2 fun hats with pompoms all over them!

He even crocheted a hat for Gracie!!

Does anyone here make their own capsules? I've got questions about dosages for turmeric and some other stuff.