No.

cathexis was wrong to push me on this. Then cathexis lied by saying or implying that they apologized to me for their insistent behavior.

I had planned on moving on but only returned to this discussion when I saw the lies and nonsense in cathexis’s last post.

You can Kumbaya all you want, kittygrrl, but you can count me out.

When the person who started all the trouble to begin with shows no signs of being willing to learn from anyone and acts like they are the one who is being mistreated then this is impossible to do in any way that would be positive or productive. I’m not showing kindness towards such egregious behavior.

I wish I had an answer to how to solve racism and white privilege. Unfortunately, I do not. In this situation, I feel people have shown great restraint and just been very straightforward with the person, yet he feels wronged. He tells Orema to not be so emotional (which is very rude and arrogant) when all of his posts are highly emotional and he's been very nasty to her, me, Cin, and Semantics - basically everyone who spoke out. What he did is not okay and showing kindness may sound nice but all that does is give him permission to think what he did was okay. Seems there is no solution other than to drop the matter and hope for the best that he doesn't do it again.

I am not the most patient person in the world and I am sure there are times when it would be a good idea to try to step back and see the situation from their point of view and show restraint. So I don't think your suggestions are without merit. However, in this situation, I don't think kindness is going to help at all. I think being very clear and straightforward is the best approach and I feel that is what people have done. In order for us all to learn from each other, everyone needs to be willing to learn. Probably best to go our separate ways.

still thinking... of the chasms that exist between us (real or imaginery)...we have to figure out a way to leave our issues aside meet in a safe place and learn from/about & enlighten each other. We can do that.

Well if people can do that, and make it last, that will be a first since the beginning of time immemorial.

Shaye Moss, her mom, and gradmother and the violence, threats, and harassment they incurred all because of the Big Lie!

Thankfully there is a defamation lawsuit...


https://protectdemocracy.org/project...ction-workers/

Womens' Rights
 

None of my views have changed about my ethnicity. It's just because many people think of Jewish people as privileged white people. Some are, and some aren't. We have ALWAYS been the initial group that the fascists target if one looks at the history of anti-Semitism. People have pursued Jewish people from at least the middle-ages, probably much earlier. There is much information across the web and in your local libraries and booksellers.

Transgender rights of all sorts, even Loving v. Virginia, or we could go back even further to other SCOTUS rulings. There's no telling how far back they would go.

I think Thomas has made it clear! Gay Marriage

He also murmured about contraception. Mentioned other rulings as well.

This Right-wing SCOTUS (I know they're supposed to be apolitical but this one IS not) will be on a roll basking in the feeling of newly released power.

Rarely in history has a United States senator been so blatantly beclowned as Susan Collins was on Friday.

Four years ago this summer, the Republican senator from Maine announced that President Trump’s latest Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, had assured her that he believed the recognition of abortion rights in the Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v Wade decision was “settled law.”

The senator’s assurance that Kavanaugh would never overturn Roe was completely shredded on Friday by the justice’s own argument for doing just that.

https://www.thenation.com/article/po...susan-collins/

Not only Gay Marriage, but Thomas has a whole list he's itching to overturn!

Sidebar: I had always believed Anita Hill during the Senate confirmation hearings for Thomas! How he's been able to keep his nose clean all this time is beyond me!

An Update.........
 

Following up on what Allahpundit wrote earlier, it’s easy to lose sight of what’s happening up in Maine. But plenty of Mainers are clearly hopping mad about the overturning of Roe v Wade and they’re not venting their anger at the Supreme Court, or at least not all of their anger. They are launching broadsides against Senator Susan Collins (who, curiously enough, is not an opponent of abortion). They are blaming her for putting Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch on the bench, enabling the final decision in Dobbs. Some are demanding an apology while others are calling for her resignation. (Associated Press)

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/06...of-roe-n478740

That will be when hell freezes over for me. Ive tried many times and I get shit on!

Good luck, I see no way thats going to happen.

If the argument is that it is "not mentioned in the Constitution" buckle up buttercup we are going back the Stone Age.

Justice Thomas' wife asked Anita Hill to apologize in a voicemail if you remember some years back...

IMHO... it appears she's been off her rocker for some time.......

Case in point...
 

Virginia Thomas, has faced criticism recently for her actions following former President Donald Trump's defeat in the 2020 election. Among other things, Virginia Thomas exchanged messages with then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows encouraging him to work to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory and urged Republican lawmakers in Arizona, where Biden won, to choose their own slate of electors.

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the Capitol has asked her for an interview.

If Letitia James didn't find enough to nail him.....
 

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What charges might Trump face for trying to overturn 2020 election?

IMHO, MIGHT is the key word!

I have a sicking feeling this SOB is going to walk away scott free while thumbing his nose at all!

Me too! I don’t think he’s gonna face any substantial punishment for anything. I might concern is that he’s going to clear his way to run again. I just saw a poll that said he is way ahead of Biden of who people would vote for if the two of them ran against each other. I can’t take another four years of Trump in office especially with this SCOTUS!

The Supreme Court just announced that it’s going to take up LGBTQA+ rights up in the fall. For all those who are married now, be aware you might not be for much longer. Those who are insured through their employers, You could lose that insurance, as well as your partner could. For those who enter hospitals, your partners will no longer be allowed to follow you in the back. Kate crimes will not be prosecuted harshly if at all. We probably won’t even be allowed to do pride events and parades. They are coming for us and they just announced it!

We already are back in the Stone Age!

That started when they overturned Roe v Wade....

Could you please post the link to this? I've tried and tried finding the article but to no avail!

I know Thomas has suggested the court take a look at these, but I had not heard they definetly had decided to in fall.

:goodpost:

Nearly 850,000 people signed a petition demanding that Justice Clarence Thomas should be booted from the Supreme Court following Roe v. Wade ruling.


Unfortunately I doubt if a Justice can be moved just for their voting stance.

And Justice Thomas’s failure to recuse himself may be wrong, but it’s not judicial misconduct.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...al-misconduct/

Well, the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are from a more fundamental document, The Declaration of Independence.

I know their argument is that it isn't specified.

Supreme Court sides with former Bremerton, Wash., high school football coach, ruling he has Constitutional right to pray on field.

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday sided with a football coach from Washington state (6-3) who sought to kneel and pray on the field after games.

The justices ruled that the coach's prayer was protected by the First Amendment.

Isn't refusing an abortion to women some sort of double standard then?

IMHO overturning Roe Vs Wade is just another way men are determined to govern what women can do with their bodies!

Last week several important Right-wing 2nd Amendment decisions, SCOTUS struck down Gov. Hochel's (D-NY) light-weight state gun control legislation

SCOTUS wants to kick everything except gun control back to the states.

One good thing that came out of the District, Senator Chuck Schumer made loud verbal threats to the conservative Justices. He's really angry over Roe.

Senator Schumer's office is also circulating a petition to Federalize abortion access. Please sign this is you come across this.

Yes we are going back to the Stone Age thanks to the Republican Party and people like you who vote for them. Next up for the Supreme Court - taking away LGBTQ rights.

Took the words right out of my mouth! Some of us have a memory longer than a gnat.

"....people like YOU....."

This country will be unrecognizable if these unelected (selected by the Kochs and The Federalist Society) SCOTUS have their way. Many parts of this country will be paralyzed by fear of being arrested for .... reading the wrong book?!

Rational folks had thoughts like this yet dismissed them as being paranoid and hyperbolic. Look around, this coming dystopian landscape (already here in Florida and elsewhere, coming soon to a republican state near you) brought to you by christo fascists who are getting off on the damage being done to women.

It will only get worse if we do not vote! They are gerrymandering the fuck out of certain areas where a Dem won't have a snowballs chance to win in decades. We can prevent more suffering if we vote! Do it before our votes will not matter, they are getting their way with submitting their own electors if an election does not bode well for them. Some have already taken up the "pussy-grabbers" playbook by not conceding and yelling "stolen!"

I and so many others are done playing, we are outraged and petrified of things done and will be done. No more "let's just be reasonable and talk this out."

This is my state. I am horrified! This child is close to the age of my granddaughter. Not only was this young girl raped, now she is being raped by the system and by politics.



https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...n-in-ohio/amp/

The fact that JDeere would come in here and act like overturning Roe was a bad thing after voting for the Republicans for many years - based on his own posts - is absolutely outrageous. Everyone on both sides has known for decades that overturning Roe was a top priority of the Republican Party and why it was so important to vote. There are absolutely no excuses for anyone who supports the Republican Party. They are anti-woman, anti-children, racist, anti-LBGTQ and more. Why would any LGBTQ person put their own rights at risk and those of their community. It has been very very clear that the Republican Party is an enemy of the LGBTQ community. Absolutely no doubt at all.

Yes we must vote. We have to fight harder than we ever have in our lives and being chummy with those who are trying to take us down is not part of a winning strategy. They are willing to go to every extreme length including overthrowing Democracy.

Agreed...this also applies to those who didn't vote for Hillary in 2016. I've had people tell me "I voted but voted independent or write in." If you don't vote Democrat then you are voting against us. Had people who didn't like Hillary but hated Trump voted for Hillary we wouldn't be in the situation we are now. Those Supreme Court judges would likely be Democrat.

They (Republicans, social media, and media such as FOX and some others) have made Biden look so bad I don't know if the Dems can hold on to the oval office. You have to vote with us because a vote in any other direction is against us.

Donations given for Susan Collins re-election.....
 

The Federalist Society, the conservative legal group that pushed Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's appointment, has been the biggest contributor to the re-election campaign of Sen. Susan Collins, the embattled Maine Republican, since she voted to confirm him, federal filings show.


https://www.salon.com/2020/07/10/is-...campaign-cash/