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Daktari 03-08-2013 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 763434)
I just saw this thread bumped up and am working on quitting (not very successfully so far).

My question is, did any of you use vaping to quit?

:moonstars:

I should preface my post by telling y'all I do have a strong opinion about the vape/pretend cig things.

From my observations of many who are currently using the vape (pretend cig) I can only conclude that they tend not to give up because they're not actually quitting the visual and mental cues that make them smokers. The fact that vaping is legal indoors maintains their reliance on the ingestion and use of the emotional crutch they say they're hoping to break.

We're having a prolonged debate in the fellowship at the moment about these vape things. Those who believe they have a right to do what they want when they want with no regard for others think they should be able to smoke their vapes in meetings until folks point out to them, "aren't you meant to be giving up smoking, why can't you wait like the cig smokers have to?" Which leads them to vape outside, with the smokers, as usual. No change of habit or behaviour which seems to defeat the object really. Staying indoors away from the smokers to vape, still maintains the habits and the reliance on putting something in your lungs to make you feel better.

The only way to give up smoking is to break the habits, behaviours and emotional attachment to something that is bad for us. I don't see how the vape cigs actually do that. In my opinion they maintain the smoking status quo.


DapperButch 03-08-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 763637)
The only way to give up smoking is to break the habits, behaviours and emotional attachment to something that is bad for us. I don't see how the vape cigs actually do that. In my opinion they maintain the smoking status quo.


Said perfectly.

I would be curious to hear from ex-smokers who used this method to quit. I am betting that there is not as high quit rate as there is for other methods.

I do believe that Strappy is/was using this method. Would like an update.

DapperButch 03-08-2013 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 763548)
Sorry for my lack in showing up..life has been a little fast paced lately..smiles

Congrats to all who have kept smoke free.
And congrats to all those just starting.

As I have said before, I suggest you read the entire thread.
People here have been very helpful in ideas.

As of the 4th of this month I am smoke free 13 months...and still going!


Keep it up peeps...grin
It is worth it.

Hey, Lady Pamela!

So what happened with the testing? All clear?

Loren_Q 03-08-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 763637)


The only way to give up smoking is to break the habits, behaviours and emotional attachment to something that is bad for us. I don't see how the vape cigs actually do that. In my opinion they maintain the smoking status quo.


I do use e-cigs and also have strong options on the use of them. For one, I do see them as a substitute for smoking and keep the same behaviors as I did when I smoked. I do not vape when I'm in a restaurant, meeting, in my cube at work. I do not vape in other peoples homes. My feelings are even though the vapor is "generally recognized as safe", I do not wish to impose on others.

My reasons for wanting to quit smoking is not so much the addiction, but the health concerns. Inhaling burning material, inhaling tar, etc. is known to be horrific for my body. My mother passed away from COPD, I keenly understand smoking to be deadly.

FTR, I'm 30 years clean, 19 years sober. Unlike my drinking and drugging, I didn't lie, cheat or steal to smoke, I didn't ignore responsibilities nor did my personality or values alter when I smoked. I didn't smoke to run away from my feelings, I did use it to take a mental time out so I could go back and work on those feelings.

I smoked off/on for over 30 years. I've gone cold turkey, used the patch, gum, Zyban, Chantix. I've had smoke-free periods ranging from 1month to 8years. In all of these attempts, the craving didn't leave me, I always felt that I was just holding on... barely. One thing that always happened was I was unkind to myself. I was unkind if I smoked and it often felt unkind to not smoke.

In some cases, the least upset could get a cancer-stick in my mouth in no time flat.

With e-cigs, I'm not ingesting toxic material known to cause cancer. Am I getting nicotine? Yes, when I'm using liquid that has nicotine, although much of what I vape has 0nicotine. Does nicotine make me lie, cheat or steal? No. Is nicotine itself bad for me? From all that I've read, not in the quantity I ingest.

Is all of this rationalization? Perhaps, but one thing I know for certain, I have not smoked during a very trying period of time. I know if I didn't have my trusty e-cig, I'd be back smoking.

This is my experience, your mileage may vary.

Loren

meridiantoo 03-08-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 763637)
I should preface my post by telling y'all I do have a strong opinion about the vape/pretend cig things.

From my observations of many who are currently using the vape (pretend cig) I can only conclude that they tend not to give up because they're not actually quitting the visual and mental cues that make them smokers. The fact that vaping is legal indoors maintains their reliance on the ingestion and use of the emotional crutch they say they're hoping to break.

We're having a prolonged debate in the fellowship at the moment about these vape things. Those who believe they have a right to do what they want when they want with no regard for others think they should be able to smoke their vapes in meetings until folks point out to them, "aren't you meant to be giving up smoking, why can't you wait like the cig smokers have to?" Which leads them to vape outside, with the smokers, as usual. No change of habit or behaviour which seems to defeat the object really. Staying indoors away from the smokers to vape, still maintains the habits and the reliance on putting something in your lungs to make you feel better.

The only way to give up smoking is to break the habits, behaviours and emotional attachment to something that is bad for us. I don't see how the vape cigs actually do that. In my opinion they maintain the smoking status quo.


Daktari,

I completely agree that it requires a lifestyle change to successfully quit all nicotine. I quit for 2 years in my 20's cold turkey. I am eager to quit now and not return to this awful habit. I plan to make adjustments in all things connected to my nicotine habit in order to officially quit.

I understand that simply substituting the e-cig for a real cig is not great, but it's also, at least from what I read, much better than smoking something burning/on fire and known to cause cancer among other diseases. All moral debates aside, if you need the crutch to wean off nicotine, at least in my eyes, that is okay, as long as you work toward the goal of being nicotine free. If you do not and maintain a habit of vaping nicotine liquid, then it's still better than smoking a lit cigarette.

Meri :moonstars:

Lady Pamela 03-08-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 763643)
Hey, Lady Pamela!

So what happened with the testing? All clear?

Not yet..more tests and scans...so no news yet......Thanks for asking though.....Just waiting and trying to be patient...smiles

My next ct is in three months so I will update when it happens.


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meridiantoo 03-08-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren_Q (Post 763800)
I do use e-cigs and also have strong options on the use of them. For one, I do see them as a substitute for smoking and keep the same behaviors as I did when I smoked. I do not vape when I'm in a restaurant, meeting, in my cube at work. I do not vape in other peoples homes. My feelings are even though the vapor is "generally recognized as safe", I do not wish to impose on others.

Loren

I read the last 2 posts, this one being one of them, and this is my thought. As a smoker, I have noticed there are different types of smokers. Some are rude and do not care where they light up nor who is affected, and that has always bothered me. Then there are others who are respectful and understand the consequences of smoking and do not impose that risk on others. I imagine this is just an extension of behaviors developed over life and tied to your particular sense of respect/ethics/consideration/social responsibility. That does not mean I have never smoked somewhere it was best not to. I am human. But, I have always tried to keep it respectful, to the degree that you can considering what you are doing.

As a vaper, I will follow the same principles I follow with smoking cigarettes:

1) I will not smoke in anyone's home and I will not vape in anyone's home.

2) I will not vape in situations that are obviously inappropriate (children's birthday parties, hospital, inside a restaurant or store (even if it is allowed), etc.

3) For me, a sense of shame has always been attached to smoking. I will likely carry this same feeling into vaping. I don't fight that shame because I think there is a plausible reason my conscious is telling me to feel shame (just my opinion and I don't throw this on anyone else). As such, I will likely not vape in public often, if at all.

4) If I were in a vaping-accepting environment, then I likely would go ahead and do it. This would be rare occasions, I would think.

5) Do unto others as you would have done unto you - that is what I try to live by, though I'm not always successful. This just gives me a common sense template in making decisions that affect others. I will adhere to this in vaping until I am 100% nicotine free, at which point I will put vaping aside.

If I were in a public place and someone vaped, I'm not sure if I would think it was wrong or not. I can understand needing to do it. I think it would disturb me if someone vaped in a totally inappropriate environment, but I don't think most people would do that.

I'm so encouraged to see this thread here. It gives me a sense of support while making this transition using the e-cig.

:balloon:

Daktari 03-08-2013 06:26 PM

I will come back to this but suffice to say, I gave a lung over to smoking so I do indeed have quite strong opinions about what I chose to do to myself.

I tell my story because I feel that pretty much the worst case scenario did happen to me entirely because I smoked. I wouldn't wish it on anyone and would love to think that others could, maybe, learn a lesson from someone else's experience.


That's all I gots for now, it's after midnight here and I'm a-visiting, on a busy weekend.

:chaplin:

not2shygrrl 03-08-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 763840)
Daktari,

I completely agree that it requires a lifestyle change to successfully quit all nicotine. I quit for 2 years in my 20's cold turkey. I am eager to quit now and not return to this awful habit. I plan to make adjustments in all things connected to my nicotine habit in order to officially quit.

I understand that simply substituting the e-cig for a real cig is not great, but it's also, at least from what I read, much better than smoking something burning/on fire and known to cause cancer among other diseases. All moral debates aside, if you need the crutch to wean off nicotine, at least in my eyes, that is okay, as long as you work toward the goal of being nicotine free. If you do not and maintain a habit of vaping nicotine liquid, then it's still better than smoking a lit cigarette.

Meri :moonstars:


I agree that how one quits is not the focus, it is the desire...the will and finding a way. We are all different....and our needs are equally as different in our approaches to 'whatever'. I applaud and support anyone who wants to quit, tries to quit and even if unsuccessful is not judged by me because they did not quit like i did. I would encourage and continue to support the desire. What is the right way for you may not make it right for me. I am/ nor you are any weaker....no less strong....and in fact we are very human in making bad judgements at times. But I get back on that horse.....and try try again.....and I love myself for this.... being human....I would have it no other way! It has been 3 1/2 years, who cares how I did it.....or how many times it took.....I choose to see the successes!

meridiantoo 03-09-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dixie (Post 240903)
I'm in... I've been cutting back, in preparations of quitting. I've went from almost 3 packs a day to about half a pack. I've been stuck there for a couple weeks. I've been using an app on my phone that tracks how many, how often, and how much $. Just seeing those running totals makes me pay a lot more attention. I try to view the how often, and beat my time...lol. I'm a visual person, so "seeing" results is more helpful to me. Hopefully soon I can progress on to patches or something if need be. It's just kinda stressful this time of year for me, so it will probably be after the holidays before I take the next step. :)

What app? I would like to try this...

Thank you!

:cigar2: blech, over this habit.

meridiantoo 03-09-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommi (Post 321814)

Congratulations on each day. Been around along a time at meetings where One Day at a Time is a big celebration.
So again, CONGRATULATIONS.
Living in California I have the pleasure of being able to be at work, at a restaurant, and any public place and not be exposed to the second hand smoke. I'm not a ciggie basher, it is just so unpleasant to me, and I think it is due to being around a 2 pack a day partner and also my Mom, and then when not around it, I can breathe, taste, and smell things better.

I have been with people who quit drinking and doing drugs, but could not give up smoking. My Mom, for one. She went into an in-patient rehab program and quit those, but did not, could not give it up until it was too late.
She was diagnosed with oat cell, or smoker's cancer, and on that very day, told me it would still be hard to quit. She did quit during chemo and radiation, and by her own fighting will and the grace of God, lived almost 5 more years.

Mentioning Electronic Cig's , I know the FDA came down hard on them because of things Investigators found at their sites.
Electronic Cigarettes
Summary of Results: Laboratory Analysis of Electronic Cigarettes Conducted By FDA seen here
FDA announced that it had taken enforcement action against five electronic cigarette companies (seen here) for violations of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA), including unsubstantiated claims and poor manufacturing practices.

Bumping up this post; it bears repeating for several reasons. Don't ignore the laboratory results and FDA enforcement actions...

meridiantoo 03-09-2013 08:25 PM

Okay, done! Thank you for telling me to read the entire thread, Lady. Wow, you guys are a heap of support for me. I will just keep reading the thread every day.

Congratulations to everyone who has successfully quit or unsuccessfully quit and still see themselves as "in the process of quitting", wherever you may be on that spectrum.

:bouquet:

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 763595)
The *gulp* ENTIRE thread? Oh boy...*Makes a pot of coffee and settles in for the night....

Thank you for your good wishes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 763548)
Sorry for my lack in showing up..life has been a little fast paced lately..smiles

Congrats to all who have kept smoke free.
And congrats to all those just starting.

As I have said before, I suggest you read the entire thread.
People here have been very helpful in ideas.

As of the 4th of this month I am smoke free 13 months...and still going!


Keep it up peeps...grin
It is worth it.


meridiantoo 03-09-2013 10:57 PM

Food for thought:

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...psbd333381.jpg

Corkey 03-09-2013 11:51 PM

5 years non smoker.
I do not vape for the simple reason it would rekindle the addiction. On high stress days I hang onto the fact that me smoking would 1, kill me and 2, kill my wife. I'm in no hurry to do either.
Stay strong people it does get better.

Daktari 03-10-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren_Q (Post 763800)
I do use e-cigs and also have strong options on the use of them. For one, I do see them as a substitute for smoking and keep the same behaviors as I did when I smoked.

*snip*
Loren


Keeping the same behaviours is what kept me smoking each time I tried to quit.

As you know, if you don't take the first puff of anything then you won't take the second.

I wish you all success in eventually quitting putting stuff in your lungs. :chaplin:

meridiantoo 03-10-2013 03:04 PM

I am finding that keeping a log of my smoking habits is helpful, though tedious and boring.

:clover:

meridiantoo 03-10-2013 11:47 PM

Today I only smoked 10 cigarettes! Woot woot. I think the vaping thing may be my final and long-awaited answer.

Elijah 03-27-2013 11:12 AM

Hey everyone,

I am 38 days smoke free!! If I can do it, so can you, I promise!

~Elijah

Lady Pamela 03-27-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElijahRene (Post 774034)
Hey everyone,

I am 38 days smoke free!! If I can do it, so can you, I promise!

~Elijah

Absolutely awesome..yes you can do it!
Keep up the great work!


Stopping in today to say hello to everyone and say I am still smoke free..smoke free also.

Keep it up...It is worth it.

Sparkles 03-27-2013 11:54 AM

Hello everyone. I have a little over seven months free of smoking. I smoked my last cig on a muggy evening last summer. Woke up the next day and just decided I was done. The first few weeks I really wanted to crawl out of my skin. I was beyond irritated with any and every little thing. That eventually passed.

Yesterday I was driving and saw a woman walking on the sidewalk smoking. I watched as the smoke flowed from her mouth and thought about how awful that taste is. I was one of those funny smokers. I couldn't stand how my hands smelled after smoking. My breath tasted icky and and I hated to empty my ashtray because I didn't like touching it because of the smell.

I have no desire to smoke again but I wont say that I wont ever do it again. Sometimes I do miss it. For now though, I'm a non smoker. And it feels pretty good.

I wish you all luck and continued support with your battle, however you choose to approach it/conquer it. It really does get easier with time.

:)

DapperButch 03-27-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparkles (Post 774048)
I have no desire to smoke again but I wont say that I wont ever do it again. Sometimes I do miss it. For now though, I'm a non smoker. And it feels pretty good.


Hi, Sparkles. I am curious about the above. Why do you say that for now you are a non-smoker? Is your goal not to remain smoke free for life?

Very interesting!

Lady Pamela 04-04-2013 06:47 PM

14 MONTHS
And still going strong...smiles

Lady Pamela 04-04-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 778164)
14 MONTHS
And still going strong...smiles

Thank you for such kind support and comment.

Daktari 04-28-2013 12:59 PM

3 years and 2 days as a nicotine free non-smoker!

One of the two best things I ever did for myself...giving up other destructive chemicals was the other.


Keep the faith those who're still trying...you can do it if ya really want! :cheerleader:

Lady Pamela 05-05-2013 12:47 AM

Was a little busy on the 4th..lol
But made it 15 months....smiles

Lady Pamela 05-08-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 793721)
Was a little busy on the 4th..lol
But made it 15 months....smiles

Thanks for all the encouragement.

How is everyone else doing?




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Lady Pamela 06-04-2013 10:26 AM

Made it to 16 months.
 
http://images.pinkcakebox.com/cake564.jpg

Today is an amazing day for me. Which I silently celebrate.

Every day I get air in my lungs, a kiss from my kids, and hug from my grandbabies, Love from family members, a cuddle or for of love from my animals or feel love from and for friends ..is a moment to celebrate.

But today is because I have made it to 16 months smoke free and possibly allowed myself to have more of the above!

I must be honest..This last month has been extremely trying on me.
Many times I have struggled with the desire to have a smoke.
I seriously began to think I would cave...Though I did not.
And today I thank myself and those who suport me for that!

Many stressers have happened. Many health issues with loved ones and myself.

So I am here to ask those who have gone through this before me...WHAT CAN I DO WHEN TIMES GET REALLY HARD?

I guess I am doing ok but I have felt really weak at times.

Suggestions?


Anyways... for today I will celebrate silently and be proud I have chosen to live....smiles

And as for any updates on my scans..none yet...but hopefully soon.

Have a beautiful day everyone!
Its worth the struggle to stop. I promise!

Who else is still with me?


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not2shygrrl 06-04-2013 06:00 PM

The regret will be greater than the moment in lack of discipline
 
OK LP, so think of this exactly how it is feeling to you. This is another level you have reached my friend. The 16 months of success have given you possibly some false security at times and now is when you need it the most. So many things going on in your life, energy is hard to come by. You got this dear.....you have the strength of 16 months within you that you have accomplished.....never to be taken away, never. Time to build another level, you won't keep feeling this pull towards smoking with negative energy. It will change by your doings. Call up your strength, and do not allow the mortal weakness that is in your mind over smoking again. Your past is just that.....this level needs your future dreams, loves, and whats in your heart. There will be other levels even after this my friend, but I agree this place is the hardest after being so successful. Smoking is not in your future, cast it out. You control this about yourself, not the weakness or misplaced desire. We are human sweetie, I know you read this post from me with the affection I have for you and having followed you in this smoking cessation from month one with great admiration. My words are for you, my light is arriving with my words. Sweet 16 my dear.......how cool is it to be there 2 times in your life huh?? :)






Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 807734)
http://images.pinkcakebox.com/cake564.jpg

Today is an amazing day for me. Which I silently celebrate.

Every day I get air in my lungs, a kiss from my kids, and hug from my grandbabies, Love from family members, a cuddle or for of love from my animals or feel love from and for friends ..is a moment to celebrate.

But today is because I have made it to 16 months smoke free and possibly allowed myself to have more of the above!

I must be honest..This last month has been extremely trying on me.
Many times I have struggled with the desire to have a smoke.
I seriously began to think I would cave...Though I did not.
And today I thank myself and those who suport me for that!

Many stressers have happened. Many health issues with loved ones and myself.

So I am here to ask those who have gone through this before me...WHAT CAN I DO WHEN TIMES GET REALLY HARD?

I guess I am doing ok but I have felt really weak at times.

Suggestions?


Anyways... for today I will celebrate silently and be proud I have chosen to live....smiles

And as for any updates on my scans..none yet...but hopefully soon.

Have a beautiful day everyone!
Its worth the struggle to stop. I promise!

Who else is still with me?


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not2shygrrl 06-04-2013 06:12 PM

sweet 16 ain't what it used to be .... :)
 
Congrats LP......sweet 16......so many amusing things to say about that! :) You have done something wonderful for your future. You are more than worth it. So it is not about "earning it".....or having it "owed to you from past sacrifices".......you deserve it LP.......just because you are making it happen for a future with so much more to accomplish. :)

Daktari 06-05-2013 07:11 AM

In the last 3 and a bit years since I gave up there's been a few stresses...splitting with a long term lover, being told my home of 16yrs is being sold and not least, giving up other things that were killing me. The only way through these times?

~ Sheer bloody mindedness!

~ Will-power!

~ The knowledge that for me, if I start again, I'm sentencing myself to losing my remaining lung :|

No other way round it I'm afraid. No magic pill or incantation works...although prayer does help for me in such circumstances.

That's life when you give up stuff...I wish it wasn't :sigh:

Lady Pamela 06-05-2013 12:42 PM

For some reason my reps was not working so I will state it here:

not2shygrrl..I wanted to thank you for your continued cheering...smiles
It always makes me smile. And yes, I know your right.
And I do believe the antra is a good idea...ty again


Daktari... Thank you so much and yes I am strong willed.
I know I will make it but sometimes things just tug..as you know.
Thank you for sharing your words with me today.

I think having this sound board and advice from others that I have and will do fine!
Thanks again!

Lady Pamela 06-11-2013 03:13 PM


not2shygrrl 06-12-2013 08:19 AM

Huh?
 
Well said! <grin>






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Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 810105)


Lady Pamela 06-21-2013 12:14 AM

Checking to see how everyone is doing?



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uglyboi 06-22-2013 11:40 AM

You Can Do IT!
 
Non smoker over here for 1 year & 6 months

Yeah Buddy!!!

uncommondialogue 06-22-2013 12:03 PM

Try vaping (e-cigarettes)?
 
For those still unable to kick "the stinkies"...have you tried vaping (e-cigarettes)? I smoked since I was 15 and was up to 2 1/2 packs a day when I started vaping. I am 63 now and nothing ever worked, not the patch, not the gum, not the pills...nothing. Since starting to vape, I have not picked up a regular analog cigarette. A lot of the cigarette habit is the hand/mouth for a lot of us too. I believe that is why vaping has been so successful for me and many, many others

Smoking is not a habit, it is an addiction, and one that has a stronger hold on the user than some of the hardest drugs out there. Tobacco cigarettes have horrible ingredients including (but not limited to) over 4000 chemicals, 30 of which are known carcinogens, tar that coats ones lungs causing many, many health issues, and carbon monoxide. The one fairly benign ingredient found in tobacco cigarettes is the nicotine. Ironically, it is the nicotine that is addictive. In comparison to the other ingredients, nicotine is basically harmless. It is comparable to caffeine in that it is harmless, yet addictive, in small doses, but can be dangerous in large doses. Replacing smoking traditional cigarettes with vaping eliminates all those horrible ingredients while still delivering small doses of nicotine. The benefits are the same as quitting smoking cold turkey, yet the user still enjoys the physical act of smoking and doesn't experience any withdrawal symptoms. It is the individual user's preference, but one can indeed "step down" to smaller and smaller doses of nicotine until vaping 0 nicotine strength juice and thus, gradually eliminating the addiction. A freind on Face Book posted: Jill should be commended on her 3 months tobacco/smoke free and encouraged in her vaping quests. Keep it up Jill, you're doing great!!!"

Butterbean 06-22-2013 03:39 PM

Are you thinking about your plan to quit? A plan is helpful. I quit over 2 years ago and I am so glad I did.

I smoked 2.5 packs a day and my addiction was costing me the cost of a car payment.

Good luck and don't forget you can do this!

Loren_Q 06-24-2013 11:13 AM

Congrats to you all!
 
Whether it's 10 years or 10 days, congrats.

I've been smoke free for a bit over 4 months, but this is the first time where I've not fought the craving on a daily basis, so I have a lot of hope that this time will stick.

Like a few folks here I vape and it's working for me. I started vaping in Dec. 2012 and for the first 2 months did have the periodic smoke. I smoked 6 cigarettes in 2 months, since then, none at all.

Daktari 06-24-2013 01:35 PM

I hope you vapers manage to give up your addiction to putting anything in your lungs to feel better.


Wishing you all luck but especially those who are actually braving the addiction to smoking anything at all.

:cheerleader:

Loren_Q 06-24-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 815269)
I hope you vapers manage to give up your addiction to putting anything in your lungs to feel better.

Wishing you all luck but especially those who are actually braving the addiction to smoking anything at all.

:cheerleader:

You know, at first this bothered me, but after thinking about it I'm going with "take what you want and leave the rest."

For those who are not smoking, whether by sheer will power, patches, gum, zyban, chantex, vape, lollipops, cinnamon sticks, toothpicks, gritting your teeth, sucking your thumb, etc. Good luck and good wishes.

Loren


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