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Kobi 01-22-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissItalianDiva (Post 511061)
That's right Giants spanked the sucky 49ers....looking forward to another Superbowl win for my Giants against those Pansy Pats!!!



You meant Pesky Pats right?

MissItalianDiva 01-22-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 511067)


You meant Pesky Pats right?


LOL sure pesky and pansy works for me

Kobi 01-22-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissItalianDiva (Post 511094)
LOL sure pesky and pansy works for me




Well, considering pansy is usually used as a derogatory term for gay folk, I'm thinking pesky might work better. :)


gaea 01-23-2012 08:30 AM

Even though Im excited about the Pats going to the superbowl...

even though i rooted for the 49ers for my littlest granddaughter (i really do not like the 49ers)

even though the Pats played like crap yesterday..(ugh)

even though the 49er-Giants game dragged out..

May the team that wants it more prevail.

Slowpurr 01-23-2012 10:29 AM

Will Tom and Eli be sharing a room in Indianapolis?



http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2012/wri...dy-manning.jpg

MissItalianDiva 01-23-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 511098)


Well, considering pansy is usually used as a derogatory term for gay folk, I'm thinking pesky might work better. :)


I respect you stance but for me that is the word I choose.

UofMfan 01-23-2012 11:17 AM

Too bad the Niners didn't make it, although I have no invested interest in any of the teams, it would have been nice to see them back in the big game.

Now onto basketball and baseball.

Leigh 01-23-2012 11:19 AM

I wanted the 49ers to win but since they didn't, those damn Giants won ~ now I'm definately cheering 100% for the Patriots to kick some Giant ASS :D

Truly Scrumptious 01-23-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissItalianDiva (Post 511340)
I respect you stance but for me that is the word I choose.


Well, since the definition of pansy is:

pan·sy/ˈpanzē/
Noun:
1) A popular cultivated viola with flowers in rich colors, esp. the familiar Viola cornuta.
2) offensive. An effeminate or homosexual man.

I'm sure you wouldn't be using an offensive term, so you must find the Pats flowery. Or maybe cultivated.

MissItalianDiva 01-23-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truly Scrumptious (Post 511383)
Well, since the definition of pansy is:

pan·sy/ˈpanzē/
Noun:
1) A popular cultivated viola with flowers in rich colors, esp. the familiar Viola cornuta.
2) offensive. An effeminate or homosexual man.

I'm sure you wouldn't be using an offensive term, so you must find the Pats flowery. Or maybe cultivated.

Why don't we actually post the whole definition as per
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pansy

Definition of PANSY

1
: a garden plant (Viola wittrockiana) derived chiefly from the hybridization of the European Johnny-jump-up (Viola tricolor) with other wild violets; also : its flower
2
a usually disparaging : a weak or effeminate man or boy
b usually disparaging : a male homosexual
See pansy defined for English-language learners »
See pansy defined for kids »
Origin of PANSY

Middle English pancy, pensee, from Middle French pensée, from pensée thought, from feminine of pensé, past participle of penser to think, from Latin pensare to ponder — more at pensive
First Known Use: 15th century


As with MOST words there are many meanings and usages. As previously stated you can not "like" the word as much as you want. That was my choice of words and I will continue to stand behind my choice of the word. Thanks for the definition but I am fully aware of the history behind the word. If we were to discontinue the usage of words that have been give derogatory power well we would not have much of a use for words.

That is the beauty in free speech. On a side note...no not flowers as you felt the need to ad but

a usually disparaging : a weak or effeminate man or boy

Which is how I view the Pats. Anything else?

Hollylane 01-23-2012 12:28 PM

Frankly, your defense of a word by saying you mean it in a derogatory sense astounds me. I really think that instead of being defensive, you could take into consideration that many of us find that word offensive for obvious reasons. Freedom of speech doesn't make it right.

I usually stay out of this kind of thing, but really, I am offended.

MissItalianDiva 01-23-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 511408)
Frankly, your defense of a word by saying you mean it in a derogatory sense astounds me. I really think that instead of being defensive, you could take into consideration that many of us find that word offensive for obvious reasons. Freedom of speech doesn't make it right.

I usually stay out of this kind of thing, but really, I am offended.

I am not defensive cause frankly I do not need to defend my choice of words. I called them "Pansy Pat" that is not my first time calling them that here or elsewhere and will not be my last. The issue with the word that was pointed out is an issue urban society has given a word. Take whatever stance you want on it. I have taken mine. Thanks!

If you are offended of my choice of a word feel free to report my post or contact admin.

Mike 01-23-2012 12:45 PM

hummm, Tranny is used all over these boards and I find it highly offensive. I chosse not to read those folks using it.

Pansy to me just means weak.

back to football?

Cin 01-23-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 511438)
hummm, Tranny is used all over these boards and I find it highly offensive. I chosse not to read those folks using it.

Pansy to me just means weak.

back to football?

So when we come across something that we find offensive we should just choose not to read those folks using it and move on? One shouldn't point out, for example, someone's use of tranny as being offensive? Or Pansy?

Mike 01-23-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Tick (Post 511443)
So when we come across something that we find offensive we should just choose not to read those folks using it and move on? One shouldn't point out, for example, someone's use of tranny as being offensive? Or Pansy?

I guess , if you are offened by any word its ok to say so, where my problem comes is the use of the word WE, like who has the right to speak for eveyone?

I hear both these words embraced by folks day in and day out. But i do work at one of the biggest LGBT Centers in the US

I can only speak for myself. Many find the word Queer offensive.

Maybe this needs to be another thread, This is a football thread.

Medusa 01-23-2012 01:00 PM

Moderation
 
MissItalianDiva -


The word "pansy" was reported multiple times.


Here's something we all need to remember:

*ANY* term that disparages gay people, whether they be effeminate men, bulldykes, Lesbians, etc., when not used in the context of reclaiming is not only homophobic but against our TOS. Especially since this is a website geared toward the GLBTQIAA spectrum.

Here's the other problem with that word when used in the context of "a man not living up to societal standards of "macho": It reinforces a homophobic and sexist stereotype that "effiminate" is WEAKER or LESS THAN.

And that reinforcement will *never* be ok on this website.

Thanks,
Admin

MissItalianDiva 01-23-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 511456)
MissItalianDiva -


The word "pansy" was reported multiple times.


Here's something we all need to remember:

*ANY* term that disparages gay people, whether they be effeminate men, bulldykes, Lesbians, etc., when not used in the context of reclaiming is not only homophobic but against our TOS. Especially since this is a website geared toward the GLBTQIAA spectrum.

Here's the other problem with that word when used in the context of "a man not living up to societal standards of "macho": It reinforces a homophobic and sexist stereotype that "effiminate" is WEAKER or LESS THAN.

And that reinforcement will *never* be ok on this website.

Thanks,
Admin


Thank you for the moderation. I however do not agree and will not retract my use of the word. I am not really concerned with how many times it was reported. Feel free to ban me or time me out. Thanks

Medusa 01-23-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissItalianDiva (Post 511459)
Thank you for the moderation. I however do not agree and will not retract my use of the word. I am not really concerned with how many times it was reported. Feel free to ban me or time me out. Thanks


MissItalianDiva-

I am not interested in your rebuttal on a moderation. I am not asking you to retract your use of the word, I am advising you that it is against the TOS and that if you use it again on this website, you will receive a 30-day time-out.

I have been clear. It is clear to me that you do not want to examine the sexism and homophobia in your use of that word and I'm actually ok with that.

You are now aware of the consequences of any further use of that word and I will not hesitate to enforce the guidelines that you agreed to when you joined this site.

It is time to move along. This issue is closed.

Thanks,
Admin

Hollylane 01-23-2012 01:48 PM

Upcoming Superbowl decisions...decisions...

I have to say that I am really on the fence about the upcoming Superbowl. Though I am a fan of neither team, I do recognize their talent in making it through the playoffs.

Here's my inner (and now outer) monologue:

The Patriots are a well oiled machine. However, they seem to have skidded through by the skin of their teeth in the two games prior to yesterday's, and yesterday they really seemed to have been handed the game by the Raven's kicker. I do like Tom Brady.

The Giants, in my opinion, have played really well this year. I do not like The Giants, I do like Eli Manning. They are, again in my opinion, the underdogs of this game. Someone I do not like, offsite, hates The Giants.

My inner 5 year old will probably pick the underdog team, and the joy of hoping that someone will be disappointed if they win.

Either way, I really think it is going to be one helluva game. I love watching Superbowl games. I am sad that the Steelers and 49ers are out, but loving the Superbowl like I do, I will have to get over it so that I can still enjoy the game wholeheartedly.

End monologue....:)

Parker 01-23-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 511491)
Upcoming Superbowl decisions...decisions...

My inner 5 year old will probably pick the underdog team, and the joy of hoping that someone will be disappointed if they win.

Since Da.Bears. are not playing, I have no vested interest; but, I too, usually root for the underdogs and even though a friend on the site is a huge Pats fan, if I watch the game, I will most likely root for whoever is losing. lol :winky:

Kobi 01-23-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 511491)
Upcoming Superbowl decisions...decisions...

I have to say that I am really on the fence about the upcoming Superbowl. Though I am a fan of neither team, I do recognize their talent in making it through the playoffs.

Here's my inner (and now outer) monologue:

The Patriots are a well oiled machine. However, they seem to have skidded through by the skin of their teeth in the two games prior to yesterday's, and yesterday they really seemed to have been handed the game by the Raven's kicker. I do like Tom Brady.

The Giants, in my opinion, have played really well this year. I do not like The Giants, I do like Eli Manning. They are, again in my opinion, the underdogs of this game. Someone I do not like, offsite, hates The Giants.

My inner 5 year old will probably pick the underdog team, and the joy of hoping that someone will be disappointed if they win.

Either way, I really think it is going to be one helluva game. I love watching Superbowl games. I am sad that the Steelers and 49ers are out, but loving the Superbowl like I do, I will have to get over it so that I can still enjoy the game wholeheartedly.

End monologue....:)



When I have no vested interest in either team, I pick the underdog as well. It just seems like the right thing to do.

This year, I do have an interest as I am a Patriots fan. This is not, however, stopping my inner dialogue from mulling things over.

To me, the Patriots have had a so-so season. The defense hasnt always been reliable. The number of new faces in and out of the front line was impressive. Tom Brady hasnt always been as sharp as I would like to see. And, I have seen him more flustered this year than ever before. The offense has varied as well. Some games they made it look easy, some hard, some impossible, some grateful to have the win courtesy of the other guys mistakes.

The Belichick/Brady magic and mystique isnt quite what it used to be. A few teams seem to have out coached us this year, using Belichick like stuff in the process.

Still my guys. Still hope they do well. Grateful they have gotten this far. But, still realistic.

The Giants have had an awesome second half. Their defense has stepped up when it counted the most. Their guys are huge and fast and tough. Eli, given enough time, can throw with the best of them. Their offensive can be explosive. They made minced meat out of the Packers, in the playoffs.

The Giants, to me, are a team on a mission this year. And they did it quietly but steadily to get to this point. Their coach, to me, is a formidable opponent with many Belichickesque techniques used, especially when playing the Patriots.

I think it is going to be a tough game. I hope the Patriots win but it wont surprise me if they dont.



Cin 01-23-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 511525)


When I have no vested interest in either team, I pick the underdog as well. It just seems like the right thing to do.

This year, I do have an interest as I am a Patriots fan. This is not, however, stopping my inner dialogue from mulling things over.

To me, the Patriots have had a so-so season. The defense hasnt always been reliable. The number of new faces in and out of the front line was impressive. Tom Brady hasnt always been as sharp as I would like to see. And, I have seen him more flustered this year than ever before. The offense has varied as well. Some games they made it look easy, some hard, some impossible, some grateful to have the win courtesy of the other guys mistakes.

The Belichick/Brady magic and mystique isnt quite what it used to be. A few teams seem to have out coached us this year, using Belichick like stuff in the process.

Still my guys. Still hope they do well. Grateful they have gotten this far. But, still realistic.

The Giants have had an awesome second half. Their defense has stepped up when it counted the most. Their guys are huge and fast and tough. Eli, given enough time, can throw with the best of them. Their offensive can be explosive. They made minced meat out of the Packers, in the playoffs.

The Giants, to me, are a team on a mission this year. And they did it quietly but steadily to get to this point. Their coach, to me, is a formidable opponent with many Belichickesque techniques used, especially when playing the Patriots.

I think it is going to be a tough game. I hope the Patriots win but it wont surprise me if they dont.



Like you, I am a Patriots fan. I am a Belichick fan. I am a huge Tom Brady fan. The yard sale, flea market, bargain shopper in me thinks he was the best deal in NFL draft history. If he has at least some decent protection and doesn't get badly hurt he could play for a few more years. In that case he will break even more records and on paper will become the greatest quarterback to play the game. That he was a sixth round draft choice, 4th string quarterback is amazing to me. That he threw 3 passes in 2000, count them 3 and came in off the bench to quarterback a team that was 0-2 in 2001 and took them to super bowl and won just blows my mind. And the reality that Belichick loves to get no name guys to play for him hasn't eluded me either. Over the years he has had many walk ons play for him. He puts heart, practice, knowledge of the game, team play, toughness, and execution right up there with talent, maybe he even gives them the edge over it. This makes Brady and Belichick pretty much a perfect match. Not that Brady doesn't have talent, not that anyone who makes it to this level of play doesn't have talent.

But maybe you are right about Belichick, his super powers may be waning. But maybe not.

Anyway as far as the super bowl goes I, of course, want the Pats to win. This is the team who took the Pats perfect season and rendered it meaningless. This is the first year since that super bowl defeat that the Pats have actually won a play-off game. It would be awesome to kick some Giant ass. Yet, I actually like the Giants. Years and years and years ago before New England had a team, most people rooted for the Giants. They were my father's favorite team (until the Pats of course). So I do have a soft spot for them, although not that soft any more. They weren't my team. The Pats are my team.

I like Eli. He annoyed me when he stepped around the draft like he was special. I held the same thing against John Elway. But then I can understand, considering what his father went through in New Orleans, why he stated he would refuse to play for San Diego if they drafted him as the overall first round pick in the 2004 draft. Yet I just don't care for it when someone gets special treatment.

Anyway, I don't doubt that the Pats can beat the Giants. Will they? Who knows. That's why they play the game. But the Giant pass defense is no great shakes (29th I think) so it is likely to be an offensive game. And when it is about the offense, my money will always be on Tom Brady.

TheDreadPirateRoberts 01-24-2012 02:45 PM

yea i think when it comes to the superbowl i'd like to see the pats take it this time....i dont want my packers loss to lead to giant victory rings....it might be true for some people to want to be beaten by the best...but the pats have everything they need to make a come back for sure...

Leigh 01-24-2012 03:01 PM

I'm all for the Patriots ~ Go Pats Go!

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...ndPatriots.jpg

Zimmeh 01-26-2012 11:49 PM

Go Giants! I have Super Bowl Sunday off and since my roommate is from New York, we will be having a damn good Super Bowl Party in my apartment!

Night,

Zimmeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leigh (Post 511348)
I wanted the 49ers to win but since they didn't, those damn Giants won ~ now I'm definately cheering 100% for the Patriots to kick some Giant ASS :D


WolfyOne 01-29-2012 12:52 PM

Pro Bowl today

I'm already missing the football season :(

Hollylane 01-29-2012 01:06 PM

This will be the first Pro Bowl for me. I am tickled! After looking at the Rooster for the game...I will be going with the AFC today, based on:


http://files.dailycontributor.com/wp...y_polamalu.jpg

Pittsburgh (7)
Antonio Brown, kick returner
y-Ryan Clark, safety
y-James Harrison, outside linebacker
x-Troy Polamalu, strong safety YAY!
x-Maurkice Pouncey, center
*-Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback
*-Mike Wallace, wide receiver

and on my friend SNH's team too:

http://images.wikia.com/armchair-new...logo_small.gif

Baltimore (8)

*-Vonta Leach, fullback
x-Haloti Ngata, interior lineman
*-Ray Lewis, inside/middle linebacker
*-Ed Reed, free safety
x-Ray Rice, running back
x-Terrell Suggs, outside linebacker
*y-Ben Grubbs, guard
*Marshal Yanda, guard


Looking forward to a great game in Hawaii!

SoNotHer 01-29-2012 01:16 PM

Thank you, Hollylane. Both teams had some great players this year. It will be good to see the Ravens take the field again.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 515828)
This will be the first Pro Bowl for me. I am tickled! After looking at the Rooster for the game...I will be going with the AFC today, based on:


http://files.dailycontributor.com/wp...y_polamalu.jpg

Pittsburgh (7)
Antonio Brown, kick returner
y-Ryan Clark, safety
y-James Harrison, outside linebacker
x-Troy Polamalu, strong safety YAY!
x-Maurkice Pouncey, center
*-Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback
*-Mike Wallace, wide receiver

and on my friend SNH's team too:

http://images.wikia.com/armchair-new...logo_small.gif

Baltimore (8)

*-Vonta Leach, fullback
x-Haloti Ngata, interior lineman
*-Ray Lewis, inside/middle linebacker
*-Ed Reed, free safety
x-Ray Rice, running back
x-Terrell Suggs, outside linebacker
*y-Ben Grubbs, guard
*Marshal Yanda, guard


Looking forward to a great game in Hawaii!


kannon 01-29-2012 01:53 PM

I'm ready to watch the patriots kick some giant a**

Hollylane 01-29-2012 06:28 PM

That was the best singing of the National Anthem I have ever heard! Go Vasquez! Perfect, and no need for embellishment...


*-denotes starter
x-denotes out because of injury
y-denotes injury replacement

Pittsburgh (7)
Antonio Brown, kick returner
y-Ryan Clark, safety
y-James Harrison, outside linebacker
x-Troy Polamalu, strong safety YAY! <---:(
x-Maurkice Pouncey, center
*-Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback
*-Mike Wallace, wide receiver

Oiler41 01-29-2012 07:50 PM

No real vested interest in either team in the Superbowl, however, with that said, I do like the NFC more than the AFC, so I'm going to pull for the Giants. Looking forward to the game next weekend! Having fun watching the Pro Bowl.

Glynn

Hollylane 01-29-2012 09:52 PM

That was a fun game to watch. There were a couple of rounds of keep away that made me laugh. I'm glad I watched the highest scoring game in Pro Bowl history...(according to the announcers)...

59/41 AFC!

Scuba 01-29-2012 10:39 PM

This was just a silly game **laughing** fun to watch for sure!

Sparkle 02-03-2012 09:52 AM

this is the sum total of my interest in American football
 
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/...kle/GoPats.jpg

and it will delight me all the way through the mayhem of this weekend.

Scuba 02-03-2012 12:00 PM

Sparkle I would thank you but just know it's on like Donkey Kong ;)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...25281%2529.jpg

Hollylane 02-03-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 518994)
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/...kle/GoPats.jpg

and it will delight me all the way through the mayhem of this weekend.

I hadn't even swallowed my first cup of coffee before I nearly sprayed the screen with it. This is hysterical!

I will not be watching AbFab this weekend, but I do love me some Eddie & Pats!

Here's a little gem before we return to football talk:

Eddie: Where's my thing? You know, my thing... my vibrating thing...
Patsy: Right by your bedside drawer, darling.
Eddie: Not THAT, not THAT!... My beeper, my beeper!
Patsy: Oh.
[fishes inside her skirt]
Patsy: Here.
Eddie: [disgusted] Keep it. I don't want it now. Don't WANT it now.


Go Giants! <---This feels strange and kind of dirty...Sorry Hines & Troy!

LeftWriteFemme 02-04-2012 12:30 PM

At Super Bowl, Antibullying PSAs Will Go On


http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_N...As_Will_Go_On/

UofMfan 02-04-2012 12:57 PM

I despise the Pats.

I dislike NY teams.

Go chicken wings!

gaea 02-04-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UofMfan (Post 520159)
I despise the Pats.

I dislike NY teams.

Go chicken wings!

lmfao...

i almost spit my coffee out...

Looking forward to tomorrows game!

Skittlesluver 02-04-2012 01:25 PM

All I can say is: GO PATS!!! :koolaid:


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