Great news on Wisconsin.

NBC has called Michigan for Biden! Almost there!

Some networks have called Arizona for Biden already, NBC has not.

He just needs Nevada, Pennsylvania, or Georgia (plus Arizona).

Indeed!!

I saw that Biden leads in Nevada, so it wont be long before Biden has the Electoral votes needed to hurdle us to the win.

He's not going to get PA soon, if at all, but Arizona is surely in the bag. I don't think he's getting Georgia, but he doesn't need it. He will get Nevada and that's game, set, match.

We are almost there, keep the faith. <3<3<3
 

True story, Cin!

Secretary of State for AZ was just interviewed. Voters are over-performing in 3 major counties for the Biden win.

Also, Georgia voters are over-performing in favor of Biden, in the Atlanta area.

Georgia just might go Blue, soon.

I feel the excitement as we watch history in the making.

What a fabulous moment of joy, once we cross the finish line.

Biden and Harris are showing up as Leaders of the American Democracy, and heart felt thanks go out to all voters and organizers who put in over-the-top efforts to help save our country.

It isn't just Trump.

Biden may very well win the Presidential election but he will have to contend with the fact that over 68 million of his fellow citizens voted for Trump, a bigoted, racist, sexist, right-wing neo-fascist with a penchant for rousing all the vilest impulses of his followers.

Trump's followers are morally corrupt but it isn't just Trump who corrupted them. They were already there. All they really needed was a "leader" to come along and tell them it was ok to be amoral and behave like beasts.

It is a sad thing to see the veneer of "exceptionalism" peeling away.

Question is: what can Biden et al do about that or is it already too late.

Georgia Senate Races
 

Cross your fingers that David Perdue drops below 50% of the vote in his Senate race against Jon Ossof. He is at 50.2% as I post this. Or even better, Ossof goes over 50% and wins. I'm not sure that's possible.

If Perdue goes under 50% the race goes to a run-off in January.

Reverend Warnock is already in a run-off against Loeffler.

Right now, the Senate is 48 R to 48 D (includes the 2 independents who caucus with Democrats). 4 outstanding races. The 2 Georgia races above, and 2 Republicans Tillis (NC) and Sullivan (Alaska) are leading their races.

If the 2 Democrats were able to win the runoffs, the Senate would probably be 50-50. Vice President Kamala Harris would break tie votes and Schumer would be majority leader.


Crazy!

PS/ at this hour, Michigan is BLUE!!! Yay!!!
 

I think it represents a testament to the will of the people; that people care enough to put a stop, lay an indelible check mark on the rampant abuse of power we have seen by the crooked party who has occupied the WH.

I will be forever grateful if votes lead toward a shift in power that leads to members of the democratic party taking charge of what is left of our democracy and mending the damage done by TP (et al).

I see tonight that the AP is reporting that Biden and Harris have 264 electoral votes and that they also lead in the popular vote (71.9 M votes and counting).

It's going to happen, whether TP clogs up the system with lawsuits.

In fact, this is what is so upsetting to me: That TP will tap tax payer funding for his litigations which proves he is fired beyond all expectations. Fired.

End of story.

Now to march him out of office and make an example of him and his ilk before all the world, so this will deter crooked politicians from using our system for their own criminal purpose.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for the win. Go Blue!

And Go Blue Voters in America! Thank You So Very Much!!!

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^ 5 Katzchen !!

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Trump better calm down or he will end up w/ a diaper rash ~ just saying ~

Are you fu^*ing kidding me..........
 

Chris Christie, Rick Santorum scold Trump for fraud claims, declaring victory.


R E A L L Y after all Trump has done in these past four years, this is what these two idiots decide to speak up and scold him on!?


https://www.aol.com/2020-11-04-chris...-24675358.html

protestors outside PA ballot counting sites screaming stop counting votes
protestors outside AZ election facilities yelling keep counting votes

One can only expect this kind of thing from Republicans. They have a particular mindset that belies logic. They really believe the right thing to do coincides exactly with the thing they want to have done. They see nothing wrong with telling Obama that he can't appoint a Supreme Court justice because there is only 8 months left before an election and then turning around and telling Democrats that Trump is going to appoint a justice 2 weeks before an election.

These people and by these people I mean the Republican Party and all it's supporters, so if you identify as Republican and support this party in it's current incarnation I am talking to you, have no moral compass. Things are not right or wrong; things are only good or bad for Republicans. And this is the same party whose members always claim the high ground, who claim to be more religious, more patriotic, more righteous, more interested in what is moral than any other Americans.

I guess it makes perfect sense to them because they are not plagued by trying to do what is honorable and fair. They only need to do what furthers their agenda. They have a Machiavellian moral code. The ends justify the means. The kind of morals the rest of us struggle with are off the table for them. They don't concern themselves with the kind of morality that encourages a person to be fair in all their dealings, to be accountable for their actions to their fellow humans and eventually to their god. This morality is of little consequence when put against getting their way and pushing their agenda.

It's perfectly fine to be that type of person to these Republicans because they are certain in their righteousness. They truly believe one does not have do the right thing to be righteous. The ends justify the means because they know that the really right thing is exactly what they want it to be. They are not plagued by a conscience telling them to treat other people with empathy and fairness. That's why their leader thinks it's perfectly acceptable to make fun on a national stage of disabled people, military heroes and just about anyone he feels is beneath him, which pretty much encompasses the world. These morally superior, god fearing republicans truly believe the rest of us are so inferior as to not deserve equal treatment. I can't wait to have as my president a person who at the very least believes everyone, even those who don't agree with him, even those who haven't voted for him deserve equal treatment. I can't wait to have a leader who will put all Americans on equal footing and do his best for them all.

I saw something on fb that made me laugh. Apparently many people have become so anti intellectual that they are against counting!

Trumpian logic

Remember when Trump explained we only have so much covid because we keep testing.

And now he is only losing because we insist on counting the votes.

Trump calls it some type of nefarious black magic, the rest of us call it counting.

The goons and Chump are also trying to stop counting in Michigan even though Trump is behind. Real stable geniuses there.

The goons are also surrounding a vote-counting place in Arizona.

I hope most of the states can finish counting today so that those counting the votes - who are volunteers - will not be at risk anymore. What a disgrace.

I do wonder whether "The Trump Deplorables" ( Hillary should have gotten the Presidency just for that dead-on descriptive.) are "Republican" because they've read the policies and agree or because "Republicans" are now so Fascist and dirty that only they are willing to wrap their arms around them and give them a "respectable " name that doesnt include the words "White Supremecist" or " Fascist Neo-Nazi" in it.

Even Republican Neo-Cons don't want them. So, ask yourself, who are these "Republicans" that do? Who and what is in that welcoming tent for them?

It's all just so ugly, so predictable, and so relentlessly reoccurring that it takes tremendous will ( and maybe blind faith ) to keep it from finally crushing the human spirit; and keep it from finally vacuum-sucking-out whatever is left of your soul.

@Bulldog: hey, here at home the TP-ers are still causing near accidents in traffic, with their tom-foolery. They have nearly hit me twice, on pupose, and i have no political identifiers on my vehicle. Those ppl are down right scary.

@C0LLETTE: RE Hillary Clinton. She is the epitomy of what brilliant women in politics can be. She is bold, out spoken, and calls it like it is. I think she is brilliant. And I think she nailed it the first time around.

Off topic, sort of: I heard today on KBOO that the Democratic party is blooming into a multi-racial party of members and that the GOP is representative of the toxic White culture.

I agree with that opinion expressed on air (Democracy Now).

That is all I have right now.

I await the Sledgehammer of the Democratic voters in states of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona.

*Go Blue*

Looks like we are going to have to wait one more day. I just heard that the Biden campaign is not expecting a final result until tomorrow.

NEVADA is a JOKE ~ the whole vote count is fraud. TRUMP <<< he wants to delay because some votes weren't filled out properly ~ HELLO they get tossed out ~ that orange PIG is behind all of this.

Not sure I understand your comment about Nevada.

As of a few minutes ago, spokesperson from Nevada Elections says that the Biden lead has expanded from 7K+ to more than 11K+.

Nevada gives 6 electoral votes.

Every vote counts. Seriously.

I believe AZ, NV, GA and PENN is going to go BLUE.

Check out the percentage point leads in all county's which still have votes to count in progress.

It is going to happen, soon enough.

:vigil:

I'm not sure that any Republican even remotely resembles what Republican meant at one point in time. I don't know what their policies are today exactly except to bring about the 'end times'. Barry Goldwater was able to read the writing on the wall “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” Apparently when you are acting in the name of God you can lie, cheat, steal even kill. You can treat other human beings horribly if they are of a different religion, ethnicity, political persuasion or sexuality. I wonder what God thinks about these people acting that way in His name? Anyway it's particularly frightening to understand that at least 48% of the United States agrees with this way of being Republican, this type of conservatism.

Republican is now synonymous with the Religious Right. And it's becoming synonymous with white supremacy. I can't believe close to 69 million Americans are okay with that. That is soul crushing.

Overheard this moments ago...
 

A quiet PS/ CNN and other major news outlets will broadcast the final outcome of the PENN vote @ 9pm EST.

:vigil: :praying: :vigil:

Yes, now I heard we might get PA tonight. Things keep changing. The election officials and vote counters are doing an outstanding job. The sooner we get results the better - for safety purposes. Although brace for what happens after Trump loses.

Skkkh, Skkkkh, Copy That.

I was just listening to a vote counter rep from Georgia giving an update. IF, Georgia voters carry us across the finish line, I hope Stacey Abrams and her tribe can rectify the voting system. It is so easy here in Oregon. Each election year in the past the Georgia voters hace been disinfranchised by their hokey set of voting rules. It's glaringly disingenious, and I hope that this is corrected so Georgian votes are never disenfranchised again.

Ps/ The Biden Harris War Room will kick it across the finish line.

Joe & Kamala are on duty. :)

Bulldog???

Perdue dropped below 50% (this afternoon, west coast time).

Can you tell us what a run off is and when does it take place?

Do voters vote again on this issue alone? I ask, because I dont know.

Thanks!

<<<<<<<---- terribly excited about news we all will learn about battle ground states tonight.

ETA: last night as I wandered around the property at home, i saw a blazing shooting star, which seemed like it was close range.....I saw it buzz across the tree line. That was exciting to see last night. Naturally I made a wish. For Biden and Harris. Here's hoping that wish comes true!

Yes, Perdue has dropped below 50!% I sure hope it holds. I believe a lot of the uncounted vote is in Democrat territory so it's possible. Also, Biden is getting closer to overtaking Trump.

Some states have runoff rules for elections if certain requirements are not met in a race, then it goes to a runoff election. In the Georgia Senate races if no candidate gets 50% plus one vote, then the 2 candidates with the highest number of votes go to a runoff election.

That has already happened with Reverand Warnock and Kelly Loeffler who have advanced to a runoff.

If Perdue goes over 50% he will defeat Jon Ossoff. However, if he fails to get at least 50%, then the 2 of them will also be in a runoff.

Election day for the runoffs is January 5, 2021.

Absentee ballots can be requested starting on November 18.
Deline for registering to vote in the runoff is December 7.
Early voting for the runoff will start on December 14, 2020.

I am sure the Democrats will make a huge effort to get out the vote if Ossoff can get to the runoff along with Reverand Warnock. Go Blue! It's exciting what is happening in Georgia.

Thanks Bulldog for explaining how that run off works!

Me too#

(I might not get much sleep tonight, this election is vitally important)

My ballot was receive and accepted on Oct 24, my mama’s birthday.

Ballot Accepted
10/24/2020
Your ballot has been accepted! Your ballot was received by your county elections office and will be counted.

:bow:

on CNN they just said FRIDAY @ 5' ish they will have a final vote count for PA ~ I wonder if Pence filed for unemployment yet ?

I heard an interesting perspective by an CNN anaylst that TP will most likely take a wrecking ball to anything he can wreck before he is forced out of office.

And a Penn state rep from the elections office interviewed on CCN said that they cant give a final count yet until they wade through ballots from members of the service overseas and a few other voting sectors yet.

I got the impression that we are still a few days away from knowing if PENN will be called for Biden.

I think it will be real soon, when we know the final outcome.

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lol it's been a day of misinformation ~ all speculation ~ I get so sick of the 2016 voter numbers ~ being compared to 2020's ~ 2016 was a rigged election. they should be packing their clothes. I keep getting an image of Donny Dolly Hands ~ dressed in orange prison colors ~ not a good look ! lol he would look like a giant angry sunflower ~

Early morning news
 

Votes for Joe Biden in Georgia have surpassed votes for T---p!

Way to go, voters in Georgia!


Both Georgia and Pennsylvania will most likely go Blue today (per, CNN breaking news).

Stacey Abrams has done a fantastic, over-the-top job on organizing to help people in Georgia. Maybe there is a place she can serve in the Biden-Harris administration.

I am so excited and happy for people who live in Georgia!


Just a bit longer today before we know the final outcome.

Fantastic work Democratic Voters!!!

Whoever said Bernie would have been bad for down ballot Democrats needs to rethink. Biden seems to have been the kiss of death.

That's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. The country is obviously center-right at best and you think they want way far left? WTF. I have heard so much ridiculous nonsense from Sanders people. It's unreal. You are so completely out of touch.

The Repugs big weapon is calling Democrats radical socialists - it's ridiculous but it works with some people.


How the hell could you even think this??????


Biden was the best person to win the Presidency. No one else had the combination of strong support with black voters, appeal to some white working-class voters, appeal to seniors, appeal to suburbanites.

He was the one who could win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

Unreal. Seriously unreal.

I agree with you Bulldog.

On a different note:

I think the pandemic plays a critical role in discovering flaws that could be overcome.

Here is my round table idea:

Create a separate agency by third party design to handle election matters (processing of votes, etc). Take USPS out of the equation. We have learned this time around that even a goverment organization like USPS leadership was tainted by a partisan political support and backed a dangerous personality.

Not sure if my idea is reasonable, but the idea is to treat election votes with serious attention it deserves and keep it free from partisan politics.

Also, I think legislation should be drafted, signed and passed into law that if an incumbent refuses to concede after being booted from office that there should be serious consequences.

Thats all I got today. Except have faith in our Democracy and that deranged ppl like TP will not ruin our society.

Biden and Harris for the Win.
We the people, said so.

The Senate can mainly be explained by Red State, Blue State, Incumbent. It's definitely disappointing but we do have the 2 Georgia runoff races, which is very exciting.

I haven't analyzed the House. It definitely sucks that they lost seats. At least we still have the majority. I think the most effective argument used against Democrats is "radical socialist" - which is ridiculous.

I want to know WTF is wrong with so many people voting for Trump. That's the really disturbing thing. And it's also the main reason why so many of them voted for Republican senators.

Democrats have both promising signs and troubling signs but it's not because of Biden. Just insane.


Incumbent Democrat Loss

Tommy Tuberville - Very red state and as far as I know he's not a pedophile. Unfortunately, Doug Jones had no chance.


Democrat Holds

Gary Peters (MI) - Plenty of Republicans but overall a blue state (Governor, etc.), incumbent


Democrat Flipped Seats

Mark Kelly (Arizona) - things are changing in Arizona, 2 Democratic senators and Biden will probably win the state too. People really don't like McSally

John Hickenlooper won (CO) - Blue state, Hickenlooper well-known former Governor, Gardener weak candidate

Republican Holds

Thom Tillis (NC) - Trump is winning the state plus Cunningham's sex scandal

Joni Ernst won (IA) - Trump won the state, incumbent, she rides around on a motorcycle (eye roll)

Steve Daines won (MT) - Red state, Bullock popular but not enough to overcome red - has nothing to do with Biden

Susan Collins won - WTF???? I have no explanation for this one other than she is the incumbent, but what the hell would Biden have to do with it?

Katzchen:
"...Also, I think legislation should be drafted, signed and passed into law that if an incumbent refuses to concede after being booted from office that there should be serious consequences."

But before you kick Trump and his larcenous family out of the WH, be sure to count the silverware and everything else of any value.

I thought it was interesting in reading financial news over the last couple of days that there is a fair amount of thinking a number of Republicans who didn’t like trump but we’re very wary of the tax increases is being proposed by Biden had voted to oust Trump but still voted repub for senate. The last few days market rally some think is being fueled by hopes for a split Congress.

Some thing else I found quite surprising was news sources quoting demographics stats on special interest groups voting more heavily for Trump this year than they did in 2016 (hispanic, black). Apparently twice as many LGBTQ. :blink: