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When the young man in the tie threw money at the man with Parkinson's as if he were not a human being and when we heard the people saying "no handouts here" we saw what a world where they held sway would look like. What charity there *was* would be given by the church which would only provide you food, what-have-you if you were willing to listen to a sermon (and accept their religion). Other than that people would be on their own. Cheers Aj |
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Yes, the bastards throwing money at this man ought to burn in hell! Or, develop Parkinson's. Sure, they probably have good health-care, but, there is no cure and the meds for it arn't exactly a picnic as well as dying from it. What I have learned through the years is that there is a very big difference between how the wealthy view charity in that is really is just a tax write-off for many. And a means to be adored. Hasn't a damn thing to due with charity as part of one's being or spirit of goodness. It is just another IRS line to place an amount in for a deduction. I do know that this may not be true for contributions made by small business within their communities. But, usually in these situations, the owners are present at functions and events and remain involved. thinking about local businesses that contribute to youth sports firlds, etc. and go to the games, continue to help with uniforms and equipment and scholarships to families that can't pay for their kids to join or equipment costs. Can also be things like Shriner's hospitals. To me, charity is mich more than throwing (no pun intended) money at something. It is an active process of giving your time as well. |
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I agree, btw, about these people's likely motivation. But I don't think we can afford to underestimate the contribution of health insurance industry lobbying to this "movement." After all, who stands to be reined in if it passes? There's a lot of profit to be lost... and so what better than a little classic misdirection, a little fanning of certain dying sparks into open flames? After all, who would be able to point a finger at the health insurance lobby if this is a "grassroots movement," and yet how do we know who all the people were at the beginning of it? How do we know who the people are who champion it now, or more importantly, who they work for? There's no way to keep track of things like that. |
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The racism displayed at these rallies is pretty obvious. And, although, I see the mega-bucks it is my money syndrome, I do see your point about some attending these discusting events as not having access to quality healthcare. As the bill appears to stand, I have a lot of problems with it. There is a lot of pork and bullshit in it. And the idea of just passing it for a Dem win makes me crazy. I keep trying to assess what is actually in it that will help me and many others out. It is a mess!! In light of what you are saying I have been agonizing over a school bond that is going to be on my ballot here. Frankly, as a someone that has lost 2/3rds of my income in the last 2 years, having my property tax increase is not something I want. Sure, it will be only about $30, but this is on top of about 6years of yearly increases of $30-$50 which is reflected on my montly house payment. Additionally, I bought my home post-Prop 13 in CA and pay about 5 times tyhe property taxes that people that bought pre-Prop 13 do. And hell, my home value has decreased over 25%! I have always supported school bonds and am a former public school teacher. Also someone that was educated within the public school system, including a community college along the way. Same for my kid. I want more money for schools! Yet, I have to say, this will make a difference to me as a retired person that also has high health-care costs as well as health-care insurance that sux! I can't drop it for another due to pre-existing conditions and I am too young for MediCare or to draw Social Security. My medical conditions are disabling. No, I don't believe that every person at these rallies are rich or represent corporate interests. Oh yeah, many are racists! |
I think it is important to remember that not everyone opposed to the way the healthcare bill is being worked is of the all evil ilk. Not all are ultra- conservative right wingers and certainly not all are plants from the insurance lobbys.
I am not entirely happy with this bill from what I have been able to read of it. It is a start that might eventually become what it should and could be, but as it stands there will still be huge numbers of folks without healthcare and a large number of folks who when "forced" to purchase healthcare will have to make the decision of food or my imposed healthcare plan. There are quite a few really not so great things about the bill as it is. Seriously though, not all of the "tea baggers" are the bad guys. http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/20.../michael-moore |
My vote is for full socialized medicine and I have really good insurance at the small company I work for.
I agree that many of the people at these rallys probably do not have insurance and are being led to vote against their own self interests by racism or by being convinced that if there is socialized healthcare, then sex changes will be free and gays will be able to marry. I think it is likely that this person is using the word "demon" as a racist code word. |
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I saw what they discussed when they were here in Nashville for their convention. I do not see anything that proved to me they cared about their fellow humans....starting with their keynote speaker. Maybe just the mean ones get on the news? |
medicare, the kind that old teabaggers utilize, is government subsidized health care, i don't get why i have to pay for these old, hateful racists to have access to affordable health care. they're milking the system, i'm sick of these anchor-seniors!
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Teabaggers, they think elitist means "someone who reads. It's a cult not a movement", via Bill Maher. There's a youtube video out there somewhere...funny stuff.
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They have socialized insurance. Growwwl. |
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And how many of the Republican leadership went to Ivy League schools????....except of course Sara Palin who just really may not know how to read teleprompters...hense the 4 line crib notes. rant rant rant rant. |
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Once again, Alan Grayson has come up with the simple and practical solution. HR 4789, the Medicare You Can Buy In To Act. Basically, anyone can sign up for Medicare and the rate would be the average cost for people in that age group. The entire bill is just a few pages long, and it has accumulated 50 co-sponsors in just 48 hours. My Congresswoman has already signed on. Has yours? (I heart Lynn Woolsey).
Alan Grayson 2012!!!! |
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I watched the same video posted earlier and yes, the yuppie throwing money was an ass. The last woman who spoke however, seemed quite rational, reasonable and not really evil. Evil is a pretty harsh view. Kinda like "demonic". |
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