Don't know where else to post something like this, but anyone just start packing or remember what that was like?

I'm looking at something called the peecock, the 3 function in one specifically, almost $200 damn. My gf and I arnt doing so great, and its causing me to focus on myself and I want out of life, and I'm thinking I want to pack.

I feel like there is something missing, those of you that pack probably get that. I'm worried I'm gonna buy this thing and try it, then get freaked out over the initial trials of wearing it in public or having to adjust it. I donno, I can just see myself walking around in walmart all awkward trying to get used to it. lol anybody go through this?

I really want to pack, but then I feel like my life would get 1000x more complicated. I'm already a butch that likes other butches, then on top of that I'm sub or bottom, (or prefer to be told what to do, moved around, I freakin think too much, so its fun not have to think about anything.) So I feel like I'm on the worlds rarest island. Do I really want to add packing to that?

So what was it like for you when you first started packing?
Would love to here from ftm's too

http://www.theselfmademen.com/apps/w...s/show/3548106

Start here to see if packing suits you. Get the 3.5 because that is closest to what a bio male's flaccid penis is. Then you won't look like an idiot with some big dick in your pants.

I chose the above site for you to get your packer from because their manufacturer of Mr. Limpy/Mr. Softy is Fleshlight, which I think is the most realistic. They only have vanilla and caramel though, so if you need a darker color to match your skin tone, google to go somewhere else.

Also, butches/transguys often wear the packer too high. The shaft should line up with your clitoris.

How you put/keep your packer in your pants is very individual. You can get shorts that are made for packers, use traditional jock straps, or other contraptions individuals have come up with. Some people just stuff it in their tight pair of briefs. Google is your friend, here.

Dust your packer in this after washing or it will be sticky:

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It also has a nice taste if you ever use your packer in play.

People will not notice your packer in Walmart. In more intimate company they might, but really that is only going to happen if they are looking for it. Again, choosing the 3.5 will make it less obvious. Where it around the house until you get comfortable with it.

Another suggestion. It seems as though you are seeing packing as an all or nothing deal. That you either do it, or you don't. I would suggest not seeing it that way. See it as something you want to try. Maybe it will suit you, maybe it won't. You can pack every once in a while. You are not signing your name in blood as a "packing butch", if you try it! :-)

I will be happy to talk with you through PM if you would like.

Yeah I would try a cheaper version before you do the peecock. I have heard from too many guys that the peecock takes a lot of practice and lots more practice to get it right. and when you practice, practice in the shower because you will piss yourself.

If you just want the bulge in your pants go for a packer and not the STP stated above. But if you want to Stand To Pee, get what is stated above or something similar.

Good luck!!

you are not alone
 

Years and years ago I was packing for the first time and chose a Saturday nite at a busy gas station in Sacramento, somehow, as my maiden voyage. No one noticed and I didnt know any better about packers so I was wearing a 6" hardpack. Later at a leather bar...the men there noticed for sure..lol and they appreciated.

Dapper sez right. It isnt a signature in blood. Whether you pack once or four times or all the time.....It is all good. We all feel like we are islands somedays okay?

Yes, just don't use talcum powder.

Thanks for the help you guys; yeah cheaper would be awesome, and if I would have to practice with the peecock 10 million times it might make me too paranoid to use it in public. That mr. limpy thing does look like a good alternative. STP I think is my main goal besides packing.

True about nothing having to be set in stone, or blood lol, definitely something for me to keep in mind. I didn't realize you had to powder these things either, so thanks for the pointer. Hopefully this won't be too much maintenance, I'm a roll outta bed and go kinda person.

Anyone have any advise on harnesses? I really want to be able to still wear my boxers, I don't like briefs or trunks. And the strap on harness I currently have falls off all the time and drives me insane. It was something from fairvilla though, not a ftm store.

You guys are the bomb, thanks again

Increased risk of ovarian cancer. Asbetos free talc may not cause this, but it is still being determined.

Your best bet if you want to wear briefs is either jock straps or, like I said google FTM websites. I posted the link for The self made man. Here is another one http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/gear.html that sells the "cock sock".

I think you will find that there will be a lot of trial and error until you figure out what suits you best.

The Spare parts Pete boxerbriefs aren't for play, though, are they? Afaik there are no boxer briefs available in stores that can be used for sex/as a harness as well. But has anyone here actually made the Pete boxer briefs work successfully for a hard pack? Currently I use the Tom Boi briefs from spare parts and like them...but would love boxer briefs.

Pack n play
 

Hey not sure if I am posting in the right place. This question has probably been answered several times over and I'm just missing it but can someone recommend a good pack n play dildo?

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Haha I bet there's a butch out there thinking the same! I'm new to packing honestly-never took it out of the bedroom until recently. The reason I started actually had a lot to do with exploring this site...and some other stuff. I might actually post something about this little evolution of my identity and expression I've been having over the past year. Anywayyyyyy not the right thread for that!

So I recently wore my harness and dick around the house without letting my wife know. I was determined to let her find it on her own. It took like two hours lol but finally she came and sat down on the couch and was very pleasantly surprised. Since then I've packed around the house several times and it is really fun, usually on the weekends and it is basically like hours of foreplay. Very cool.

So inevitably I have gotten the urge to "take it on the road" so to speak. But the dick I wear is hard and rather large and not sure I'm ready to make that statement. So looking for something discrete but can rise to the occasion (pun intended) if me and my girl wanna have some fun.

I personally do not think that a decent one has ever been made.

Your best bet is the Peacock in my opinion:

http://www.peecockproducts.com/index...iewCat&catId=1

You need a rod for play. I don't know if you are interested in STPing, but that is part of the packer. I don't know of a better pack n play than this.

I hear the detailed paint is a waste of money. Evidently it washes off pretty quickly.

Thanks Dapper! Wow those things are amazing!

Do you have one? Mind if I ask how it has worked out for you? If that's too personal a question no worries I completely understand. It's just that's a lot of money for me so I don't think I'd bother with it if it is gonna be a mediocre results. I mean they are amazing and if I was just interested in packing and stp it'd be great but I'm primarily looking for something I can "play" with. Hopefully that makes sense :)

I do not have one, but I have read a lot of reviews and spoken to a number of people. The Peacocks have been around for a long time and are a respected company. However, I hear that they tear if you buy the harness they actually sell with them. Go figure.

If your goal is to be able to play with the item you are packing with, than it is a good choice.

If you want to go crazy nuts and get something amazing, then check out ReelMagik: http://www.reelmagik.com/ftm-store-d...ck-n-play.html

You have to shave your mons pubis and glue it on. Very complicated.

I personally,have always been happy with just a XS Mr. Limpy for packing and I play with something else. But, for butches/trans guys who want to be able to go to the bar with a packer and then use the same item for sex, the Peacock is the only decent one out there. Everything else is crazy large and can't be packed comfortably.

For me though, I just accepted that outside of Reel Magik, there just isn't a pack n play that would work for me. And I am ok with that.

Dapper- that realmagick is incredible but not for me. I don't really want something I can't take off. It has been very educational though :) it will be interesting to see where the tech is at in another 10 years. I might go for the peacock when I have the money or just say screw it and hard pack haha..thanks for the info!

No problem. The Realmagik wouldn't suit me either, I just thought I would show you something amazing. It is crazy what they can do with silicone. Their main income is Halloween masks and other masks. One of the owners is a trans guy, so that is how they got into the packer business. The wait time is about a year after ordering.

I personally think anything longer than a flaccid average male 3.5 inches looks ridiculous in pants, but that is just me. I'd do the short Peacock if being able to use something besides my hand in a quick moment was important to me.