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*Anya* 08-24-2012 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 637913)
http://aol.sportingnews.com/sport/st...6pLid%3D196452

I don't even know what to think. I know one thing, it makes me sad. If it is true, it makes me sad. If it is not true and he lost his titles for no reason, it makes me sad.

Nothing good here....

I don't understand this. If he passed all of his drug tests, how can they do this?

I must read more about it as it makes no sense.

Heartbreaking, truly.

Live Strong Lance.

Daktari 09-14-2012 06:41 AM

Anyone watch the Vuelta? Currently watching the Tour of Britain?

Daktari 10-24-2012 05:33 AM

The route for the 2013 Centenary tour has been revealed. It's going to be brutal.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...ute?intcmp=239


I'm really sad that you lot don't seem to follow any of the other classic races. Is it because there's no significant/winning American presence? :|

easygoingfemme 10-24-2012 06:55 AM

I was just looking at Tour of Britain. Day one at 123 miles and under 5 hour completion. Dang.

Daktari 10-24-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by easygoingfemme (Post 682964)
I was just looking at Tour of Britain. Day one at 123 miles and under 5 hour completion. Dang.

Ooooh I hope you follow it to the end, if it's all still available to watch online. You get to see much of our countryside.

I was at the finish in Blackpool for one of the latter stages. :cheesy:

easygoingfemme 10-24-2012 08:54 AM

I think that the only thing left available to watch are some clips... which are great to watch too. Would have loved to see some of the live coverage!

Daktari 10-24-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by easygoingfemme (Post 683034)
I think that the only thing left available to watch are some clips... which are great to watch too. Would have loved to see some of the live coverage!

I loved the daily live coverage. It was awesome to see Wiggins and Cav ride, amongst others. :cheesy:

easygoingfemme 10-24-2012 06:30 PM

I tend to miss the live coverage. One time I was on a bike trip during TDF and kept stopping at local pubs/sports bars for meals because I knew they'd have the race on and I could catch snippets.
It's cyclocross season though so I need to get to some of that for live action!

DapperButch 01-17-2013 09:56 PM

Anybody watch Lance on Oprah tonight?

Even though I felt pretty confident that it was true when I heard that Floyd spoke on it, I didn't listen to the interview because I really didn't want to believe it.

After he lost his titles I knew I couldn't deny it.

But, watching him "yes", to Oprah over and over again...man, weird, but it brought tears to my eyes. And I think that it is not even all about Lance, but is about the fact that this incredible story of one man winning 7 tours, simply isn't true. That is a bummer. But, if everyone was clean would Lance have won 7 times? Maybe. Sucks we will never know.

macele 01-17-2013 10:15 PM

i'm not taking up for lance, ... he cheated. and lied time after time. and it's about more than just lance. what i keep thinking about is how so many times the folks that are supposed to be checking the steroid use, ... looked the other way. paid off or whatever. lance isn't the only one guilty. pro cycling from top to bottom is guilty. has to be. they knew what he was doing. greed.

alexri 01-17-2013 10:19 PM

I feel for all the people he harassed, bullied, and went after to keep his cheating a secret. I imagine it's a bittersweet vindication for the reporters and writers who were threatened or intimidated by him.

I also feel for all the athletes that didn't cheat who didn't have a fair chance.

I have absolutely no sympathy for Armstrong and no respect for him. He shows no remorse. I feel like he's only confessing because he wants to race again and participate in triathlons, or because there are financial concerns. I know the statute of limitations for perjury charges expired so he can't be charged.

I am also bothered by the number of people who think he should get a free pass because he set up Livestrong, or because "everyone does it."

Bèsame* 01-17-2013 10:44 PM

Unbelievable how "big" it was. A doping mafia? Unreal...

macele 01-18-2013 12:26 AM

in the oprah interview, all i got was he is so full of himself. now i don't know his heart. i'm not judging. but he has lied so much that he doesn't know what truth is. i think there's a good kind of intimidation. (but his) i could feel the "superstar" intimidation. his kind was unsettling. wow. and on the news, it's just about money. that's what its always been about.

Daktari 01-18-2013 07:21 AM

I still wanna know what the big sums of cash Armstrong 'donated' to cycling's governing body were all about. No-one will say anything about those...odd that!

I'm so sorry that his fans now have to face what many in cycling have known for some time.

Oh how the mighty fall huh?

Not seen the interview yet. What a travesty getting a light entertainment 'personality' to do the interview. If he was serious about 'telling the truth' and 'coming clean' (oh what irony) then the interview would have been with a real journalist who would have 'grilled' him properly.

macele 01-18-2013 07:57 AM

oprah did a good job, in my opinion. she didn't pet him. now the part 2 show, ... poor poor pitiful me might be engaged. it's entertainment no matter who does the interview. again, greed plays a part.

Daktari 01-18-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by macele (Post 732599)
oprah did a good job, in my opinion. she didn't pet him. now the part 2 show, ... poor poor pitiful me might be engaged. it's entertainment no matter who does the interview. again, greed plays a part.

Well, yassee, in my book cheating in a world sport is not entertainment, it's newsworthy and therefore warrants a proper journalistic interview by someone whose stock in trade is journalism, preferably cycling journalism like William Fotheringham, and not interviewing celebs about their latest rehab/breakdown or what book to read next.



ETA. Just read this on the Guardian cycling blog.
"Armstrong was on a mission to fix his public image, but the whole exercise was weakened by his need to apologise. In another world, where his accusers had not been so tenacious and he had not set himself up as both a victim and a hero, Armstrong believes he could have avoided this whole charade. Speaking about his return to the sport in 2009, he said: "We wouldn't be sitting here if I didn't come back", seemingly admitting that he was apologising because he had been caught."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...h-winfrey-poll

curlyredhead 01-18-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by *Anya* (Post 637916)
I don't understand this. If he passed all of his drug tests, how can they do this?

I must read more about it as it makes no sense.

Heartbreaking, truly.

Live Strong Lance.

I understand why you are confused Anya, this is what he was explaining last night on the interview. At the time they couldn't detect what he was doing the tests weren't that advanced. This is what blows my mind too because really if they couldn't detect it then, he was then cleared. So how can they come back and say he cheated when really at the time it wasn't visible by the lab. Of course he admitted to doping last night but like he said 95% of the tour is doped. I think it says a lot about what kind of pressure these guys are put in to win at All Costs. He said that coming back out of retirement screwed him. It essentially showed he had doped in the past. He regrets it now. I am looking forward to the rest of the interview. I feel bad for his mom and his kids, especially his son, since there was a clip about his son being his biggest supporter and how he lied to them all.

Daktari 01-18-2013 09:50 AM

Others did it so he did. He only got caught because testing had improved when he came back. Seems a little naive to think that because he didn't get caught first time that he wouldn't the second time. He deserves excoriating just for the arrogance of that.

Wonder where the proof that 95% of the tour was/is 'doped'. Many were, but not all. Many have been caught too. But what about the honest sportsmen who got beaten time and again but remained clean because their personal morality and trust in their own ability and training didn't allow them to cheat? Not everyone is prepared to win at all costs and bully a whole load of folks to achieve it. Armstrong deserves to lose all his Tour wins because of even just one clean cyclist who competed in any of those tours.

Course he regrets it now, he got caught. Methinks that any regret is entirely as a result of getting caught and strongly suspect that he would have been happy to continue making millions for himself in retirement if he hadn't been caught.

As you say curlyredhead, our thoughts should be with his family and children.

DapperButch 07-01-2013 06:57 PM

Tour 2013
 
2013 Le Tour de France!!


6/29/13-7/21/13

100th Anniversary!!!



Who else is watching? My cable was out and got it fixed today, only to find out that the channel the tour is on this year is not in my current plan. Grrr...so I just upgraded in order to be able to watch. It gets activated tomorrow. Until then, I will be watching clips.

Who are everyone's favorites this year?

Daktari 07-04-2013 09:26 AM

Yup...I'm watching again of course - although not every day thus far.
Each days stage is shown in it's entirety and then an hour summary each evening on the terrestrial channel I watch. (ITV4).

I was pleased to see the team TT back this year.

Sagan is my pick for the green jersey and a top 2 in the GC. He's a sprinter that can climb a bit, unlike our own Cav. I do hope Cav adds to his brilliant stage wins thus far.

I do hope Contador doesn't win...he may have served his drug ban, but in my book he should have been banned from all international events for life for being a proven cheat.

Who's your pick Dapper?

Daktari 07-06-2013 01:01 PM

What an awesome job Team Sky did today. One and two in the GC is a fab achievement. I hope Froome manages to live up to the hype and pull off the top spot this year.

DapperButch 07-08-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 819411)
What an awesome job Team Sky did today. One and two in the GC is a fab achievement. I hope Froome manages to live up to the hype and pull off the top spot this year.

I haven't been able to watch the Tour because I have been away at the beach where I have no cable. Yes, I am hoping for Froome as well. Honestly though, I have no real emotional investment in any rider winning.

Contador...yep, can't stand the guy.

Daktari 07-08-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 820099)
I haven't been able to watch the Tour because I have been away at the beach where I have no cable. Yes, I am hoping for Froome as well. Honestly though, I have no real emotional investment in any rider winning.

Contador...yep, can't stand the guy.

I hope you're having fun at the beach. :hangloose:

It's fantastic to have Brits doing so well in the Tour in recent years. It accompanies star performers in the velodrome and road TTing. People such as Sir Chris Hoy, Brad Wiggins and Victoria Pendleton have inspired so many more folks to cycle after seeing them triumph at major sporting events in the last decade, especially the last two Olympics.

It's sure adding flavour to my Tour interest after 15/20yrs of watching on tv and a 45yr passion for cycling. My mate Andy and I are talking about a trip to watch the 2014 Grand Depart (or at least one of the two stages) over the Pennines, to the east, in the major towns of Yorkshire.

It does make a whole load of difference if ya have a particular interest in one or more of the riders.

Yet to see or hear about today's stage so I don't know if Froome has defended the yellow jersey again.








DapperButch 07-08-2013 03:59 PM

Today's a rest day.

I was able to see a bit of yesterday's stage (9) and I will admit I have a bit of Froome fever. Yes, it is much more fun if you have a favorite!

Daktari 07-08-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 820231)
Today's a rest day.

I was able to see a bit of yesterday's stage (9) and I will admit I have a bit of Froome fever. Yes, it is much more fun if you have a favorite!

Show's ya how distracted I've been today, I forgot it was a rest day. :blush:

He's quite something our Mr.F ain't he :cheesy:

DapperButch 07-08-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 820237)
Show's ya how distracted I've been today, I forgot it was a rest day. :blush:

He's quite something our Mr.F ain't he :cheesy:

Oh, no worries, I am WAY out of the loop this year...just found out today is a rest day. I woke up hoping to watch as I came home late last night.

Finally, I will be able to sit and watch a stage tomorrow (well the 3 hour recap in the evening).

DapperButch 07-10-2013 08:47 PM

So, glad Martin got the stage today (just watched it). It would have been so sad if the poor chap waited 4 hours only to lose!

I am happy to see Froome continuing to do well!

Daktari 07-11-2013 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 821017)
So, glad Martin got the stage today (just watched it). It would have been so sad if the poor chap waited 4 hours only to lose!

I am happy to see Froome continuing to do well!

The TT was awesome wasn't it. Martin did an amazing job...the waiting must have been torturous. So pleased that Froome is living up to his potential for the time being. Over 3 minutes is a pretty hefty lead but one bad day in the mountains could shatter that of course.

Today there's a big sprint finish. It's always good to watch the powerhouse guys sprint it out.

DapperButch 07-11-2013 08:46 PM

I have to admit I am really liking Kittel!

I have never been much of a Cav fan, but I remember you are, Daktari, so you are probably disappointed that he lost the sprint today.

Daktari 07-12-2013 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 821327)
I have to admit I am really liking Kittel!

I have never been much of a Cav fan, but I remember you are, Daktari, so you are probably disappointed that he lost the sprint today.

Disappointed for Cav (arrogant barsteward but so very talented) yes but hey, Kittel was truly awesome! It's the first time I recall seeing Cav beaten from behind in that manner for a very, very long time. All power to young Mr.K.

It's such a shame that Edvald Boasson Hagen is out with a badly busted up shoulder...broken humerus and scapula (classic cycling injuries). He's been one of the rocks that Team Sky has been built on that allows the likes of Wiggo and Froomey to shine so brightly. His loss, along with Kanstantin Siutsou earlier in the race means Froome is down to a support team of six. :|

It's another sprint today...Go Cav!! :cheesy
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DapperButch 07-12-2013 08:55 PM

I have a new respect for Cavendish and I am glad that he won today.

I was very impressed that prior to today's race, he acknowledged his loss yesterday was about Kittle having a better day (rather than making excuses for losing). More than that, he was open enough to admit that perhaps he is being replaced as the best sprinter, in the same way that he replaced whoever was best when he came on the scene.

Yep, I got some new respect for Cav, who like you said has always been a cocky man.

It made me smile to see him win today. He was so happy, like a little boy getting a new bicycle! ha! Good to see him get that record of winning the most stages of anyone (25).

The Contador activity/Froome added to it being an interesting stage today. I hope you got to see some of it, Daktari.

Wryly 07-12-2013 11:11 PM

Today was the first time in years that i've been able to actually been able to watch the Tour. My brother and I had an enjoyable morning watching the race and trying to figure out what was going on.

ahk 07-12-2013 11:41 PM

I thought todays leg was pretty intense.

Daktari 07-13-2013 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 821692)
I have a new respect for Cavendish and I am glad that he won today.

I was very impressed that prior to today's race, he acknowledged his loss yesterday was about Kittle having a better day (rather than making excuses for losing). More than that, he was open enough to admit that perhaps he is being replaced as the best sprinter, in the same way that he replaced whoever was best when he came on the scene.

Yep, I got some new respect for Cav, who like you said has always been a cocky man.

It made me smile to see him win today. He was so happy, like a little boy getting a new bicycle! ha! Good to see him get that record of winning the most stages of anyone (25).

The Contador activity/Froome added to it being an interesting stage today. I hope you got to see some of it, Daktari.

Aye, I got to see the highlights last night. I've not been watching the the stages in their entirety. It's on in the afternoon and it's far too sunny to stay in watching cycling on tv when I can be out on my bike actually doing it. :cheesy:
I was so pleased for Cav getting the stage yesterday and a little taken aback by his gracious interview about 'best sprinters' and getting beaten by Kittel. Young Cav is growing up...awwwww!

This last week of the tour is gonna be B.R.U.T.A.L

Check this Fotheringham article out...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013...ance-2013-pain

Hope you worked it out easily enough Wryly

ahk cyclists have legs, Le Tour has stages :raspberry:

DapperButch 07-13-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 821762)
Aye, I got to see the highlights last night. I've not been watching the the stages in their entirety. It's on in the afternoon and it's far too sunny to stay in watching cycling on tv when I can be out on my bike actually doing it. :cheesy:
I was so pleased for Cav getting the stage yesterday and a little taken aback by his gracious interview about 'best sprinters' and getting beaten by Kittel. Young Cav is growing up...awwwww!

This last week of the tour is gonna be B.R.U.T.A.L

Check this Fotheringham article out...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013...ance-2013-pain

Hope you worked it out easily enough Wryly

ahk cyclists have legs, Le Tour has stages :raspberry:

The tour is on in the mornings here, when I am at work. I see 3 hours of "Primetime" coverage in the evenings. 3 hours really is a large block of time to give up, to be honest, so I will be on the computer catching up on email/work while it is on, as well. I have to tell you that I go through this sense of "loss" at the end of each tour every year. It get woven into the fabric of your evenings that then is all of a sudden gone!

Thanks for the article. Yes, it is certainly going to be tough for the "boys" this week.

Daktari 07-15-2013 04:28 AM

Oh my! Oh my! Oh my giddy aunt!

Froome on Ventoux what a heroic ride.

Mont Ventoux is legendary in the Tour...Froome's win is very special because it's the 100th Tour and it was Bastille Day and it's where Brit Tom Simpson died in the '67 Tour and it's the first time a Brit has won on the Ventoux and because he crossed the finish, with Quintana, in a two man breakaway on the longest day in the saddle, on one of the most brutal mountain stages ever, gaining him time on all his rivals. Awesome! I would venture to say that it could possibly have won him the whole Tour.

Sadly Tom Simpson was found to have taken a cocktail of alcohol, amphetamine and diruetics; Despite this, Simpson is well regarded by many. A memorial to Tom is at the place he collapsed, just 1km from the summit of Ventoux. The memorial was festooned with tributes this weekend.

I was so pleased to see Contador dropped on what should have been his natural terrain. Young Quintana is one to watch for the future.

I can't wait for D'Huez on Thursday. The peloton breaches the summit twice of this behemoth of the high Alps.

DapperButch 07-15-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 822571)
Oh my! Oh my! Oh my giddy aunt!

Froome on Ventoux what a heroic ride.

Mont Ventoux is legendary in the Tour...Froome's win is very special because it's the 100th Tour and it was Bastille Day and it's where Brit Tom Simpson died in the '67 Tour and it's the first time a Brit has won on the Ventoux and because he crossed the finish, with Quintana, in a two man breakaway on the longest day in the saddle, on one of the most brutal mountain stages ever, gaining him time on all his rivals. Awesome! I would venture to say that it could possibly have won him the whole Tour.

Sadly Tom Simpson was found to have taken a cocktail of alcohol, amphetamine and diruetics; Despite this, Simpson is well regarded by many. A memorial to Tom is at the place he collapsed, just 1km from the summit of Ventoux. The memorial was festooned with tributes this weekend.

I was so pleased to see Contador dropped on what should have been his natural terrain. Young Quintana is one to watch for the future.

I can't wait for D'Huez on Thursday. The peloton breaches the summit twice of this behemoth of the high Alps.


Finally I can make comment on the 15th stage! I saw the highlights (about 30 minutes worth), and yes, it was great to watch!

Contador....grrr...I really hate that guy. Is it me, or is he always selfish and never takes his turn? Something I noticed many a time....

Congrats Daktari for another win for the Brits!

Daktari 07-16-2013 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 822838)
Finally I can make comment on the 15th stage! I saw the highlights (about 30 minutes worth), and yes, it was great to watch!

Contador....grrr...I really hate that guy. Is it me, or is he always selfish and never takes his turn? Something I noticed many a time....

Congrats Daktari for another win for the Brits!

I agree with ya about Contador, he never takes his turn in the pacemaking and never did. Selfish cheat!
Sadly, I was so tired last night I fell asleep not long after I'd put the highlights on itvplayer so I'm not sure what happened...I'll catch up later when I've done the bike workshop thang today.

Go Froomey!!

UofMfan 07-20-2013 10:05 AM

What a way to celebrate Colombia's Independence Day!

Nairo Quintana is making us proud :)

"Riding his debut Tour, Quintana’s maiden stage victory also secured the 23-year-old Colombian the polka dot jersey as the race’s climber and the white jersey as the best young rider, not to forget the second rung on the podium in Paris."


http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Q...UyIPokJcQl.jpg

Daktari 07-20-2013 01:15 PM

Damn! Now I know who won today's stage before seeing the hightlights!

Wish I hadn't looked at this thread now. :|


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