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Toughy 10-23-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 444857)
1st things
sewage: tanks or?
fire dept: on site with EMT

I'm in btw, to old to do much but i know things and how to make things work, or so I think

see.............all that sh....stuff goes under security.....

just saying....

jack?

Gemme 10-23-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444609)
Let's pretend that Jack and I finally just won the Arkansas Powerball for $173 million. :)

After taxes, that's about $100 million left over.

Let's pretend that we're building a compound on about 400 acres just north of where we currently live. :)

Would you want to live on a BFP compound?
What skills can you contribute?
Would you want to do community meals every night in the "Mess Hall"?
Would people still need to pay something into the system like rent, even if it was only nominal?
Do you think you'd get tired of living with family all year long?
What pro's and con's can you see to this idea?
What input do you have?

Let's speak it into the Universe!

First of all, congrats and thanks for thinking of us!

To answer your questions:

Yes, I would live in the compound.

I can supervise!

Maybe not every night. Maybe every Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

Yes to paying your own way, or at least part. Wolfy's idea of full time on the farm equalling someone paying is okay with me.

I think that there'd be the usual squabbles that occur within familial units and the cycle of make ups and break ups, but there's nothing that would happen that we haven't seen and/or gone through before, I don't think. I think that I would get tired of some of you, but then, that's not unusual for me. I get tired of everyone once in a while. I have occasional flare ups of hermititis.

Pros: a community where we can discuss topics that affect our community without more 'wtf' looks than 'aha' looks...regular femme clothing swaps...cooking and crafting in person with my sisters and brothers....being acknowledged for the pretty pretty princess that I am. :eyebat:

Cons: as someone mentioned, I think there should be an application process of some sort so that any folks that intend to cause trauma/drama and/or shit stir don't settle in too nicely. Other than that, I'm drawing a blank right now.

I want community meetings, very clear guidelines and by laws of what is and is not acceptable, accountability for one's actions, a ginormous swimming pool and jacuzzi, a gym that has the typical gym equipment plus a court for basketball or whatever, holiday events, rotating chores, giant deep freezers, a small old timey candy shop and general store, giant community garden that those who have green thumbs can administer to, a farm stocked with rescued animals, a place for all religions/beliefs to worship at, a school (maybe Sunshine could teach the kids that are home schooled? Blush too, when she visits.), counselors, folks to come in and teach workshops, and so much more!


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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444621)
See, I love the idea of farm animals! Fresh eggs!

I keep envisioning a "game night" or something where we get together in an activity hall or a gym or something and play poker, board games, have karaoke, etc. Cause I'm cheesy like that!

BINGOOOOOOOOO!

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Originally Posted by Ebon (Post 444691)
I'm in. I can fix stuff and do whatever needs to be done. Set up security etc...I just need a place to go to be alone at times because I get in moods where I don't like to be around people.

Ebon's fantastic at techie stuff but he's not being honest. He hates people most of the time.

:blink:


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Originally Posted by guihong (Post 444740)
Reluctantly, no. But that's just me; I wouldn't do well with people just showing up to visit. Would each household have "at home" hours, or would all doors be open all the time?

I could teach the kiddies :)

Would there be the option of having meals alone if wanted? I wouldn't want just a cabin with beds and one mess hall, like Girl Scout camp.

What about relatives and friends, would they be allowed to visit on the premises?

Who would be in charge, and how selected? Would these people end up like a "higher tier" of resident, with all the power? Would there be "term limits"?

How would the rules of the community be decided? What if there was an objection?

Communal living in a kind of utopia always sounds good on paper, but hasn't worked in reality. And maybe I shouldn't post, as I'm crabby ;).

Good questions. I understand that it would be more like a suburb and less like Waco, for example, but I would prefer that we adhere to a general rule of not having outside company over after a certain and/or maintaining a noise ordinance.

Democracy rules, I say.


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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444772)
Let's name the streets!

We have:

Zombie Street
Penpal Street

I'd like to see a "You are belong to me Way"

I like Zombie Lane better, but I'm finicky.

Butch Boulevard?
Wisteria Lane?
Lovers' Loop?

Cuz you know we need a makeout point.


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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 444803)
I'm with guihong can we have a call before you just show up policy?

That is the neighborly way!

Or we could have decorative door knockers that we put out when we DON'T want company.

:cheesy:


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Originally Posted by weatherboi (Post 444820)
can we have a stocked pond for fishing?
can i build a brewery?

One of my favorite restaurants EVER had their own brewery on the property. I'm not a beer drinker, but they made their own ginger ale and rootbeer there too.

http://www.silvercitybrewery.com/index2.htm

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444845)
We do need someone to do massage, reiki, healing, etc!


And that means we need a meditation hall/ massage parlor (not THAT kind!)

Yes to massage and maybe a chiropractor?

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444852)

DEEEEEER!!!!

If you hunt it, do NOT let me see you with the carcass! No one kills Bambi around me.

:weightlifter:

oblivia 10-23-2011 10:19 PM

Would you want to live on a BFP compound?
I think that'd be kick-ass - or full of some serious mad drama - or both... probably both. LOL

What skills can you contribute?
Well, Sparx bakes awesome artisan bread, and is there a body-positive Yoga Teacher in the house yet? I could rock that. Sounds like there's some psychic services in the works - I can read some tarot too. I think I have other skillz, but I have to think about them. lol.

Would you want to do community meals every night in the "Mess Hall"?
Could be fun - but shouldn't be mandatory. Sometimes I need time just with my little family.

Would people still need to pay something into the system like rent, even if it was only nominal?
I think communities like this CAN be self-sustaining reducing or almost eliminating the need for money but that really depends how it's set up and if all the communities needs can be met by its members.

Do you think you'd get tired of living with family all year long?
I think that it depends on the relationships and the energy of the place. Self-sustaining barter, trade and work-based communities have totally different energy than a regular mainstream style living situation. I'd like to think there's a different level of personal responsibility when the entire community relies on each other to be successful - and a different investment in working things out when there are problems.


Can there be a kink-hall, pls? Thanks! :) hee hee.

dixie 10-23-2011 10:26 PM

<---no longer owns horses but does still have kid, cats and guns. (I'm from the south y'all. My rifles, bows, and fishing poles go where I go.) I'd prefer to have my lil spot off in a far corner if I'm there. I'm a bit reclusive and am not really a fan of neighbors. I can only handle people in small doses, hence why I am not a city girl. I really like the idea of being with community though. Oh, and I too can garden, farm, build shit and bake shit. That's about it though lol

atomiczombie 10-23-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_G (Post 444749)
I would love to have a workshop where I can build things and keep my tools. I would be able to team up with some of the other handy folks from here and build things/fix things/ and remodel things. I could also use my new degree to design houses/cottages to suit the residents. (using the sustainable design that I have been studying)

Coach Stappie would LOVE to get some kickball games going on a Saturday afternoon! :clap: How fun would that be?!




AMEN. Give me a workshop where I can cut shit up and weld it back together. I will be a happy guy.

atomiczombie 10-23-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444794)
We will, of course, allow "gardening" :)

Perhaps the "gardening" people could live on one side and us clean and sober folks off in another corner far away...

Daywalker 10-23-2011 11:11 PM

Skillz ~ I better list some or I'm never gonna get mah App approved!
 
I can keep the Motorcycles maintained.

:harley:
I know what a Dirt n Soot sponge is.
:|

I have a 9th degree Black Belt in :peacelove:

:koolaid:

I can also take things like this:


And make them into one of these:



:weedsmoke:


:daywalker:

Daywalker 10-23-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444794)
We will, of course, allow "gardening" :)


Oh, hell.

This is what I get for not reading back.
:seconddoh:

I'm in like Flynn.
:cannabis:


'Day added Doctor of Organics to Reverend Day's Compound Skillz Profile'

:daywalker:

Tcountry 10-24-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444609)

Let's pretend that we're building a compound on about 400 acres just north of where we currently live. :)
realistically speaking with the logistics of animals/buildings/pond/rec areas we would need bout 1000 acres not just 400 (yes I drew it out on graph paper)
Would you want to live on a BFP compound?would want to live no where else!
What skills can you contribute? you name it...from ground clearing to daily fixes...building, security, logistics, & whatever is needed in between
Would you want to do community meals every night in the "Mess Hall"?not every night....maybe a cpl times a week
Would people still need to pay something into the system like rent, even if it was only nominal? for sure..we will need supplies & I would hate to see the electric bill
Do you think you'd get tired of living with family all year long? that is what separate housing is for...our community family is loving & understanding & I don't have to worry bout gettin beaten every day...awesome!

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Originally Posted by little_ms_sunshyne (Post 444860)
So when can we move in?

Can I just volunteer T as our resident Handy Guy? lol

looks like I am not the only one...good to have a team! :)
& Sunshyne is a rockin teacher!

Would take a TON of planning & compromise...but wow what a dream!

atomiczombie 10-24-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by June (Post 444625)
Let's further imagine that this "Compound" is in Oregon where there are no copperheads, bugs the size of your head, tornadoes or humidity to speak of.

#buzzkill

;)

Here's another vote for Oregon. It's a beautiful state and it's got forests, mountains and an Ocean!!!

Mike 10-24-2011 12:32 AM

solor power everything, just saying

Curley 10-24-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Arwen (Post 444848)
Time shares for those who don't want to do the full-time thing but wouldn't mind a little immersion every now and again.

This is a good idea for us foreigners we can work or pay something depends I guess how long one stays.Or maybe like a time share kinda thing?

I need to know some things : Most importantly will there be a dedicated building/room for a permanent shoe/ boot /foot wear swap/exchange?

will security authorize areas where we can have campfires so we can all sing Kumbaya and hold hands?

Will some of the community meals be pot lucks??????

street name ideas.. Co dependency lane , Sappho crescent ,Melissa boulevard , Dyke trails

iamkeri1 10-24-2011 02:53 AM

OOOOOh I really want to do this, but it is the middle of the night and I want to posrpone thinking too much till morning.
Smooches,
Keri

Medusa 10-24-2011 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by atomiczombie (Post 444913)
Perhaps the "gardening" people could live on one side and us clean and sober folks off in another corner far away...

Definitely! We'd have to have a quiet section, a family section for those with kids, a clean and sober, a gardening, etc.

WEE!

Stacy 10-24-2011 03:55 AM

I'd love to live on the compound and take pictures, and drink beer, and create art, and hang twinkly lights around my hut/tent/cardboard box...whatever :)

Nat 10-24-2011 06:21 AM

I want to live in the yard-art-is-okay section :)

Medusa 10-24-2011 06:23 AM

If we win that much in the lottery, I want to live in the section where my tiger-fur-covered escalator that goes up to my bedazzled front door won't be considered "tacky" :P

The_Lady_Snow 10-24-2011 06:40 AM

RAWR
 
This will be a matriarch run society yes????

princessbelle 10-24-2011 07:03 AM

Horray for all the twinkle lights, yard art and glitter doors.

They may be able to see us from the moon.

JustJo 10-24-2011 07:05 AM

We need to be near a beach...

If there is a "sometimes grumpy and I need my own space" section, then yes....and I come with a teenage boy, a small dog and 3 cats.

Good internet is a must since I would keep my job and work from home.

I bake good chocolate chip cookies...and, yes, I can bake enough for everyone. In fact, I bake everything from scratch....bread, cakes, pies, cookies. Large numbers of people would give me an excuse to make Lamingtons. :)

I also cook, even for large groups....so I can help there.

I also have raised cattle, worked on a dairy, raised and trained horses, and kept a variety of goats, rabbits and chickens. However, I'm diabetic, get exhausted easily and have carpal tunnel badly enough that I can't grip or turn things well....so my "labor" ability is limited.

I am turning into a kick ass "pool girl" though....so I can maintain the swimming pool.

And, I'm a project manager with an MBA by trade, so... if you're serious, I'll help with the planning. :)

ETA: Tarantulas??? Oh hell no! I don't do spiders anytime....but giant spiders with hair? No. Just no.
I vote we do this is South Florida. It's already diverse. It's warm. It's gay friendly. It's near the beach. And real estate is dirt cheap right now.

Abigail Crabby 10-24-2011 08:48 AM

bump bump bump

Julie 10-24-2011 09:12 AM

I am all for communal living. When I first moved to the middle east (Israel) I lived on a Kibbutz and then a Moshav. The Kibbutz movement was/is so successful and is certainly similar to what the BFP community might look like. Everything a little city has, the Kibbutz and Moshav have.

In communities like this - there are sections of housing (independent) for families - seniors - young people. Which is pretty amazing. There is a main dining hall, which provides for those that want community, meals together. There is even dormitory housing for those who do not have families and are with limited funds. Recreation rooms - they even have a little time out space for naughty people. They handle everything within the community. And of course a bomb shelter (Jack!).

I would think since we are a community, we would have a rent structure based on what you can afford to bring in. We are here to take care of one another. If we brought in government section 8 housing for our members who were of minimal income, I believe we would also get great tax breaks. But I don't know the legalities of this. I just know, we need to take care of one another.

When I lived on Kibbutz, I was in charge of the animals - Now that I am old and decrepit. I don't want CHORES of that nature. I will work, but please don't ask me to wash dishes or cook (gasp) or OMG clean. I would prefer something not so tedious. I think it would be important to have a members of our community in the salon industry. We must have a salon. Mani's, Pedi's, Hair, Massage and of course facials.

Can you imagine being in our (some of us) golden years and being safe. Knowing we are loved always and not forgotten. Watching our younger community members start families. OMG - We could be grandparents to a whole new generation.

I would like a 2 bedroom (1 bath is fine) -- Square footage can be minimal, as we would have the external structures to get more space from.

I am ready.

Julie

Nat 10-24-2011 09:12 AM

110 acres next to a river

Scorp 10-24-2011 09:13 AM

Well if you get to do that...then I definitely want to live in the section that resembles Hard Rock Cafe' interior/exterior. You know how I love my neon lights. And also have a place for my electric guitars to be on display and have a light up drum set.

I have a funny feeling it's going to be a major boi cave. Even better, a place for folks like me to chill out and kick back!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 445049)
If we win that much in the lottery, I want to live in the section where my tiger-fur-covered escalator that goes up to my bedazzled front door won't be considered "tacky" :P


Apocalipstic 10-24-2011 09:14 AM

I would love this, especially with owr own condos or houses part! The idea of Wolfie's coffee every morning sounds divine! Mess hall yes! But ability to eat alone if we wanna.

I can offer ability to cater for large numbers of people
If we did a hostel or B&B I have experience in all aspects of hotel management.
I am excellent with administrative logistics, food ordering etc.
Planning events and parties
Good mediator and listener
Cats love me!
I can always find soy milk! (for Zimmehhhhhhh :) )

I would like to see people who break up act like adults and be able to get past and continue living the dream in our compound!

A library would be nice
a Pool
Meditation space

Um, I am not very outdoorsey and want to just say up front....please don't ever bring me anything you caught fishing or killed hunting for me to do anything with and they better not be brought in the kitchen. GROSS. Also, I am not farming nor taking care of horses, I am allergic to them and hay.

I will probably need a chaise lounge near Nat's for reading and lounging. I also have cat like tendencies...lol.

Hopefully we will be close enough to a city for me to go to work, or lets start internet companies. I would way rather work than farm. lol.

:rrose:

Medusa 10-24-2011 09:20 AM

Pool, library, media center with theatre and internets, office center with fax, copy, print, a "trading post" where folks can donate good used stuff for others to pick up when needed, a lounge with music and pool tables, a coffee bar, etc.

Fairly self-sufficient but with enough space that you could have down time if you needed!

Julie 10-24-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 445191)
Pool, library, media center with theatre and internets, office center with fax, copy, print, a "trading post" where folks can donate good used stuff for others to pick up when needed, a lounge with music and pool tables, a coffee bar, etc.

Fairly self-sufficient but with enough space that you could have down time if you needed!

I think we also need a place of worship (all denominations) for those who have a religion or a spiritual path. I would also love to see a labyrinth and OMG a Peace Pole. We must have a Peace Pole.

I want I want - I feel like the Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka.

Medusa 10-24-2011 10:25 AM

We also wouldn't be good queers without greenhouses, maypoles, and Kumbaya fire pits!

Arwen 10-24-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Julie (Post 445234)
I think we also need a place of worship (all denominations) for those who have a religion or a spiritual path. I would also love to see a labyrinth and OMG a Peace Pole. We must have a Peace Pole.

I want I want - I feel like the Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka.

Can I put my beaver next to your pole?

We need to have a strong injunction against judging others. And that means on all levels including what pets people like, how people like to eat, hobbies, religion, politics, etc.

Hmmph

Outlaw 10-24-2011 10:42 AM

Rumi Roomy
 
This is a link to a Sufi Community near me: The Abode of The Message

"Categories of Residence

There are three categories of residence at the Abode, and each has its own responsibilities. All three categories include a requirement of three hours per week of Karma Yoga. Residents must also participate in community work days, which occur one Saturday morning per month, when residents join together to complete necessary maintenance tasks and other seasonal projects.

Rent-paying Resident The Abode rents both rooms and apartments on the main campus.
Khidmat Work Study is a tradition that allows you to study the Sufi “path of the heart.” We ask for 25 hours of service per week, in exchange for room and board, and a dedication of 10 hours per week of Sufi studies designed by you and a chosen mentor to reflect your spiritual interests.
Hands and Heart Work Exchange is named in honor of our site’s Shaker heritage. Come experience our community while putting “hands to work and hearts to God.” This program requires 30 hours of service per week and in return we’ll provide you with room and board."

Just_G 10-24-2011 11:08 AM

I want a golf cart I can cruise around in to visit everyone!

Can I be the milk man?

dark_crystal 10-24-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorp (Post 444624)
Cons:
Having NON-invited guests trying to crash our living ground out of curiosity and constantly having that stress


let's move right now to vote "no" on Joe Jackson

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Originally Posted by June (Post 444625)
Let's further imagine that this "Compound" is in Oregon where there are no copperheads, bugs the size of your head, tornadoes or humidity to speak of.

#buzzkill

;)

i read that as "no copperheads, bugs the size of your head, TOMATOES or humidity"

but i see that it said "tornadoes." Does that mean there WILL be tomatoes? Bleck.

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Originally Posted by princessbelle (Post 444634)
Ok..deal.

And.

What if we got a time out? Would we go to jail?

:fastdraq:

i am worried that we have pervs in here who would like the jail. so we would need two jails- one for fun and one for SRS

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Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 444800)
my questions are all about security.......well thought ought, intelligent, useful, pertinent, training, blah, bla blah, blah........

oooooh yes can we please have a whole platoon of butch cops in uniforms?

Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 444809)

haha me and Mr. Jenny went to Laredo this year and i got a blue(?) Alf piggy bank at a roadside pottery place- complete with cat

Quote:

Originally Posted by weatherboi (Post 444820)
can we have a stocked pond for fishing?
can i build a brewery?

yesssss brewery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 444885)
Or we could have decorative door knockers that we put out when we DON'T want company.

:sock: on the doorknob


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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 445191)
Pool, library, media center with theatre and internets

YES! a job for me!

Apocalipstic 10-24-2011 11:16 AM

Golf Carts!

Labrynth or Maze!

Therapists, Life Coaches and Conflict Managers!

Accupuncturist?

Close to Hot Springs so we can have out own mineral spring!

and yes Julie SALON!

Sachita 10-24-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444621)
See, I love the idea of farm animals! Fresh eggs!

I keep envisioning a "game night" or something where we get together in an activity hall or a gym or something and play poker, board games, have karaoke, etc. Cause I'm cheesy like that!


I can handle your farm part- hens, garden, whatever.

I would love it but I would definitely want some privacy. Its nice have a social center then everything spread out. Weekly pot lucks/meals but a community kitchen for those who always wanted to share or couldnt cook

princessbelle 10-24-2011 11:23 AM

Maybe have "game night". Like hide and seek and red rover and mother may i and all those fantastic games that make you squeal!!!!!!!

Apocalipstic 10-24-2011 11:24 AM

Skinny dipping night?

Julie 10-24-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arwen (Post 445243)
Can I put my beaver next to your pole?

We need to have a strong injunction against judging others. And that means on all levels including what pets people like, how people like to eat, hobbies, religion, politics, etc.

Hmmph

Agree -- and you can place your pretty little beaver, anywhere your *bless your* heart desires.

JoSchmooze 10-24-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 445288)
Skinny dipping night?

Believe me, when I say this....
NO ONE wants to see me skinny dipping...
Ain't happening in this lifetime....
Jest sayin....

:cigar2:

Apocalipstic 10-24-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_G (Post 445265)
I want a golf cart I can cruise around in to visit everyone!

Can I be the milk man?

Will there be vegan options? Lactose intolerant options? lol :eatinghersheybar: Chocolate? Chocolate is a dairy product...as is icing...usually.

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Originally Posted by JoSchmooze (Post 445295)
Believe me, when I say this....
NO ONE wants to see me skinny dipping...
Ain't happening in this lifetime....
Jest sayin....

:cigar2:

It does not have to be a required thing, just if we wanna.

I love the water and no one would force anyone to attend nor watch...you know, if they did not want to.

dark_crystal 10-24-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 445288)
Skinny dipping night?

There should definitely be a section that is "clothing optional" 24-7


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