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girl_dee 09-06-2013 05:02 AM

i DEMAND that Big Boo be added to the list! :police:

PurerSands 09-06-2013 05:12 AM

Have been peeking in on this forum every so often... Never watched the show but lastnight I sat down and watched episode one. Not usually my kind of show.. But jeeeeez it's so good!

Parker 09-06-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by girl_dee (Post 841571)
i DEMAND that Big Boo be added to the list! :police:

Oh how I wish I could go back and fix the mistake of leaving her off the list!

I was trying to limit the number of characters because there were about a dozen female characters of whom we saw a lot, then another dozen of whom we didnt see that much, then the dudes. To keep the list down, I decided to leave off the dudes and the characters of whom we saw very little - as in, not a lot of screen time, no flashbacks to show their stories, etc.

I'm sorry. :blush:

*Anya* 09-06-2013 06:29 PM

Can't read your posts but wanted to say:

Just finished episode 7, season 1.

Got to go, started episode 8.

Love Big Boo.

Love me the butches.

:bunchflowers:

bright_arrow 09-06-2013 08:45 PM

I started re-watching it and got Bard into it. She is just as hooked. (f)

As for character stories, I really liked Tiffany/Mrs. I am God's right hand lady. Not because I like her - oh no - but it really explained why she is so hellbent now. It almost feels like a brainwash to me, not because she is so devout, but because she wasn't until the church stepped up to portray her as a 'protector of babies' and she had to suck it up and smile.. all for trying for a lesser sentence and stuff.

I really felt Claudette's story made her A-OK. Waiting to see Poussey's since she is not a drug user. And Big Boo's.. Maybe she put an ex gf's new gf in the hospital or something. I could see it.

:fastdraq:

ONLY 09-07-2013 08:04 AM

Great to see a thread for this show. I watched it when it first came out and after watching the last episode I was "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" lol So glad to hear of a second season, can't wait.

I would love to be able to watch with my girl (f) someday.
Maybe when she is home next we can watch an episode or two :) if we have time....... :)

deathbypoem 09-08-2013 09:11 AM

We finally JUST got around to watching it b/c couldn't find it anywhere online and didn't have netflix. BUT, we have discovered it now :) Currently on episode 10. It sucked me in and hasn't cast me back out yet.

Hollylane 09-08-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 841389)
I'm happy to say that Gaige is watching it now too, this makes me happy because now she will know what I'm jabbering on about!

At first, like me, she was entertained, but not really into it. I assured her that it would pick up by episode 4, and she persevered, finishing the entire season in 2 days. I am happy to report that she is officially hooked, just like me. :) YAY!

Not unpredictably, we differ on favorite characters, but that makes it even more fun to talk about!

Dykea 09-08-2013 12:12 PM

Crazy Eyes "Swoon"
 
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not2shygrrl 09-08-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dykea (Post 842243)


OMG I love this!! Thanks for posting it. I can see all the actions Crazy Eyes went through while reciting it to Piper!!

SimpleAlaskanBoy 09-12-2013 02:05 AM

I love Red because I love Kate Mulgrew period. Seeing Crazy Eyes with her family on visiting day made me want to see her backstory most of all. I love Big Boo, and Pennsatucky although funny at times is also crazy and I wanna scream every time I see her. I love the nun and see Poussey as butch, myself.

~SAB

puddin' 09-14-2013 11:44 AM

I have tried to like dis show. but after watchin' wentworth, I find it flaky...

Hollylane 09-14-2013 12:08 PM

I thought I'd share this here too:

Laverne Cox, Janet Mock Talk Stigma of Loving Transgender Women

Parker 09-14-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddin' (Post 844340)
I have tried to like dis show. but after watchin' wentworth, I find it flaky...

Damn, that sounds good - I wish we could get that here!

Maybe Netflix or something will pick up that show after another season or two - Netflix sometimes has shows from other countries, so maybe they will pick this one up so we can see it as well. :winky:

Some info for the curious ---> Wentworth, aka Wentworth Prison.

Hollylane 09-14-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddin' (Post 844340)
I have tried to like dis show. but after watchin' wentworth, I find it flaky...

If you're talking about Prison Break, I don't think there is much comparison there. To me, it is a different animal entirely. OITNB is based off of a true story, Prison Break is not. Prison Break has the flexibility of being able to take extreme changes in plot/story direction. OITNB doesn't have the ability to change like that.

On a side note (off topic), in my opinion, the actor that I didn't feel received enough credit for his skills from Prison Break, was Robert Knepper.

Hollylane 09-14-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parker (Post 844358)
Damn, that sounds good - I wish we could get that here!

Maybe Netflix or something will pick up that show after another season or two - Netflix sometimes has shows from other countries, so maybe they will pick this one up so we can see it as well. :winky:

Some info for the curious ---> Wentworth, aka Wentworth Prison.


Ha! Another example that shows that I don't always know what I'm talking about. Yay! An opportunity to gain more knowledge. Now I have to look up that show!

With the star of Prison Break being Wentworth Miller, it isn't hard to see why that would have confused me.

Parker 09-14-2013 01:05 PM

I was confused as well because when I Googled "Wentworth," all that came up was him and his prison show and I was all, that cant be what puddin' is talking about; so I Googled "Wentworth TV" and found it!

Tricky. Very very tricky. :winky:

Martina 09-14-2013 01:09 PM

I may have to check it out. I almost never watch anything set in prison. It breaks my heart thinking about the ruined lives. But it does sound good. I heard an interview on NPR with the show's creator too, which piqued my interest.

I did watch Prison Break because of the comparisons to 24, which I had loved. I skipped the season set in the Panamanian jail. Couldn't handle it. I normally cannot take it when people are falsely accused either -- Fugitive-like narratives. But I watched Prison Break. I can't say it was great, but I watched it gluttonously.

Cin 09-14-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddin' (Post 844340)
I have tried to like dis show. but after watchin' wentworth, I find it flaky...

I loved The Prisoner so I am very interested in finding a way to watch this in Canada. Its often tricky to see some US shows on the computer in Canada unless they are already shown on Canadian tv or Canadian Netflix. Or unless you have one of those programs that allow you to look like your in a different country of your choice. But since this is an Australian tv show I am hopeful...

Parker 09-14-2013 03:17 PM

I'm still feeling guilty about not having Big Boo in the poll, so here is another interview with Lea DeLaria where she is talking about the show, how people are recognizing her now, the infamous screwdriver, whether or not Natasha Lyonne is gay, being called a bulldyke, etc.

OITNB’s Lea DeLaria on the ‘Bulldyke’ Debate, Onscreen Masturbation, and Hitting on Natasha Lyonne

Oh, and I had no idea Jodie Foster directed the 3rd episode (Lesbian Request Denied) - I totally want to go watch that episode again now. LOL


Quote:

It is your dyke duty, you realize, to tell us about working with Jodie Foster [who directed episode three, “Lesbian Request Denied”].

I literally had one line, when I’m standing in line for pills. We did the first rehearsal, and Jodie came up and grabbed me by the shoulders and she goes, “You’re really very funny. You’re an incredibly funny actor. You move a lot” — my character is kind of nervous, that’s why she’s on meds — “I think that’s too much for this shot.” So I was like, I’ll tone it down. “And she’s like, 'We’re gonna keep the camera on you, and just throw out ten lines,' because the line was, 'Oh, I like the orange ones. Oh, wait a minute, they give me that terrible itch in my … ' That was the end of it. So I just chose the dot-dot-dot to be the vagina, and then every funny thing I could think of. I think take seven was “Kunta Kinte.” And Laverne [Cox, who plays Sophia] was behind me and she ruined the take because she burst out laughing when I said “Kunta Kinte.” And I was like, “Asshole, that would have been so brilliant!” And she was like, “Say it again!” and I was like, “No, no, no! I get ten takes. I’m gonna say something funny.” They ended up going with “cooter,” I believe.

Hollylane 09-14-2013 03:43 PM

It took Netflix to get me the young straight girls I’ve always wanted. [Laughs.]

~ Lea DeLaria

The quote above kind of gave me a yuck feeling. I know she said it tongue in cheek, but it is still uncomfortable to me. It is too assume she means it in a more lascivious way.

Cin 09-14-2013 03:59 PM

Interesting interview of Piper Kerman
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/06/the_...black_partner/

A couple of excerpts:

Was the prison staff as homophobic as the warden in the show?

I only reflect upon my own experience, so I definitely saw a lot of homophobia from the prison staff directed at prisoners and also towards each other in sort of an unfettered or unchecked way. No one is getting in trouble in prison for being homophobic, let’s put it that way.

Is the character of Sister Ingalls — the nun who is a protester — close to reality?

Sure, fairly close, yeah, though the show’s character of course is quite different than Sister Ardeth Platte, who gave me permission to use her real name in the book. But yeah, that’s a good example. Those folks are closely drawn.

In your book, you write about encountering other political prisoners, particularly those arrested for protesting the School of Americas.

There are many political prisoners in America, particularly in the federal system. That’s where they generally all go. Often, they were serving really short sentences if they were first-time offenders, like a 90-day sentence, which is sort of ridiculous on some level, but a number of those folks had short sentences, like 90 days or six months.

Someone like Ardeth Platte was considered a repeat offender because she had committed many protests of conscience, so she was serving, if my memory is correct from the book, close to four years, as were the two other nuns she was arrested with.

How do you respond to critiques that you — and “Orange Is the New Black” — are profiting off the struggles and stories of women of color?

The book is the book, right? I wrote the book to depict my own experience, and I think that’s a really important thing. I don’t see any problem whatsoever with me depicting my own experience and telling my own story. I’m very proud of the show, but Jenji is the show’s creator and at the end of the day, she’s the ultimate decision-maker. I remain in close contact with some women I did time with—a variety of women, some of them are white, some of them are not white. The people who have been in touch with me —both when the book came out and when the show started—are excited. The people I knew in prison, if they are not excited, have not communicated that to me.

I try to be very respectful of other people’s stories and other people’s ownership of their stories. I hope that the show opens up more and more desire and demand for stories that come out of the criminal justice system. That’s what I think is most important: for people to have more and more hunger to hear about a system very different than what has been depicted to date in the media.

Elijah 09-14-2013 04:07 PM

"Almost the exact same thing happened to me, but it was tuna salad"

~Crazy Eyes

*laughing and shaking my head

Elijah 09-14-2013 04:41 PM

From the chicken episode...
 

Parker 09-14-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parker (Post 844411)

Oh, and I had no idea Jodie Foster directed the 3rd episode (Lesbian Request Denied) - I totally want to go watch that episode again now. LOL

I love how my favorite scene of the series (so far) is from the episode that Jodie directed. lol

I was going to post the YouTube I had of the whole scene but Lionsgate blocked it for copyright reasons :( so I found this short clip of the end:



Hollylane 09-14-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 844421)
It took Netflix to get me the young straight girls I’ve always wanted. [Laughs.]

~ Lea DeLaria

The quote above kind of gave me a yuck feeling. I know she said it tongue in cheek, but it is still uncomfortable to me. It is too easy to assume that she means it in a more lascivious way.

Uh...I left out some words. I'll put them where they belong. :|

*Anya* 09-16-2013 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 844421)
It took Netflix to get me the young straight girls I’ve always wanted. [Laughs.]

~ Lea DeLaria

The quote above kind of gave me a yuck feeling. I know she said it tongue in cheek, but it is still uncomfortable to me. It is too assume she means it in a more lascivious way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 844509)
Uh...I left out some words. I'll put them where they belong. :|


It may have been said tongue-in-cheek but way to go Lea; reinforcing negative stereotypes that lesbians are out to flip straight girls!

Yuck is right Holly!

imperfect_cupcake 09-16-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Tick (Post 844434)
Interesting interview of Piper Kerman
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/06/the_...black_partner/

A couple of excerpts:

Was the prison staff as homophobic as the warden in the show?

I only reflect upon my own experience, so I definitely saw a lot of homophobia from the prison staff directed at prisoners and also towards each other in sort of an unfettered or unchecked way. No one is getting in trouble in prison for being homophobic, let’s put it that way.

Is the character of Sister Ingalls — the nun who is a protester — close to reality?

Sure, fairly close, yeah, though the show’s character of course is quite different than Sister Ardeth Platte, who gave me permission to use her real name in the book. But yeah, that’s a good example. Those folks are closely drawn.

In your book, you write about encountering other political prisoners, particularly those arrested for protesting the School of Americas.

There are many political prisoners in America, particularly in the federal system. That’s where they generally all go. Often, they were serving really short sentences if they were first-time offenders, like a 90-day sentence, which is sort of ridiculous on some level, but a number of those folks had short sentences, like 90 days or six months.

Someone like Ardeth Platte was considered a repeat offender because she had committed many protests of conscience, so she was serving, if my memory is correct from the book, close to four years, as were the two other nuns she was arrested with.

How do you respond to critiques that you — and “Orange Is the New Black” — are profiting off the struggles and stories of women of color?

The book is the book, right? I wrote the book to depict my own experience, and I think that’s a really important thing. I don’t see any problem whatsoever with me depicting my own experience and telling my own story. I’m very proud of the show, but Jenji is the show’s creator and at the end of the day, she’s the ultimate decision-maker. I remain in close contact with some women I did time with—a variety of women, some of them are white, some of them are not white. The people who have been in touch with me —both when the book came out and when the show started—are excited. The people I knew in prison, if they are not excited, have not communicated that to me.

I try to be very respectful of other people’s stories and other people’s ownership of their stories. I hope that the show opens up more and more desire and demand for stories that come out of the criminal justice system. That’s what I think is most important: for people to have more and more hunger to hear about a system very different than what has been depicted to date in the media.

I went to that interview and read it. Holy shit am I ever niave. And completely ignorant. Of of my old and close friends I've know since 14, his mom was a prison officer. She never ever wanted to talk about her job. And I only heard about Wormwood Scrubs in London via whispers and rumours about what went on in there. I can't imagine what that prison is like. I've been around the outside of it as its in London, but the outside of it scared the shit out of me. Its as far from anything in my highly privileged canuckian little life as the shanty towns of Jakarta were (which also scared the shit out of me, but also filled me with awe that humans could be so strong they could survive in that. Wormwood just made my stomach funny with nerves).

I realize I know nothing about our punishment system in BC. I have been to BC Pen when it closed down. We broke in after a flood and took pictures of the old cells. The most disturbing was the solitary. They kept the front house but the rest was pulled down and the land is now condos. They did the same with Esindale, where they used to put people with learning disabilities and emotionally ill. Because when I was a girl that was still done. It wasn't until I was about 14 that all of that changed.

Driving past BC Pen and Esindale, they are on the same road, with the woods behind and the river in front was a creepy drive and I used to always stare as a kid. People locked up. Scary people in a scary place. So scary we don't talk to them or see them.

I'm now going to look to see if there are stories by any women from our prison system, in particular, first nation as that seems to be the women here who get the shortest end of the stick. I want to hear it from their mouths.

If I find anything I'll let people know.

EmJay 09-16-2013 10:02 PM

I started watching this show for the first time a couple hours ago.. *Looks out the curtains and its pitch black out and I'm on episode 7*.. Ok.. Maybe more than a couple hours.. So I am obviously completely consumed by this show. I love love love it! And can't wait to keep watching more :)

imperfect_cupcake 09-17-2013 07:30 PM

I player the first episode to two.of my straight girl friends (context: they weren't in it for watching the hotties) and they loved it so much they stayed till 3 am and watched the whole series. Why? Because they were relieved that there was finally a TV show that wasn't about 1) men 2) women's relationships with men 3) how the women support men 4) how much women would like to be with men.
And they were ecstatic every episode passed the The Bechdel test ( asks whether a work of fiction features at least two women who talk to each other about something other than a man). 2) this was about women's lives. In context to each other, not men.

They all found Piper to be utterly annoying and antagonistic. But they loved crazy eyes. And Tasty. A lot.

"I like how pipers ignorance is laid bare and when she whines she looks like a complete asshole. I love all of the womens stories. And barb, bullshit crazy eyes is not your type. We've seen you with women more bat shit than her!"

Then they all laughed and nodded and said she was probably better than half of 'em. They meant it sincerely.

So that's two straight gals and a dyke mate that night that think CE is kinder and saner than half my exes....

Leigh 09-26-2013 12:06 AM

on the list I had to pick Alex, shes definitely hot in this show but of course i developed a major crush on Big Boo - i mean who wouldn't right? Hehe :)

Parker 09-26-2013 12:21 AM

Every few days, I'll see something posted on the OITNB Facebook page and it makes me laugh or smile and I want to watch the season all over again.

Today, it was this:


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Leigh 09-26-2013 12:28 AM

lol omg Parker i remember that part, i laughed so hard cuz it was just that darn hilarious :)

imperfect_cupcake 09-26-2013 12:55 AM

she is so hot.

Parker 09-26-2013 07:39 PM

I threw my pie for you.
 
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candy_coated_bitch 09-26-2013 09:53 PM

I love these pics! I might actually have to watch it again.

Parker 09-26-2013 11:02 PM

Ellen gets in on the OITNB fun
 

Parker 09-26-2013 11:14 PM

I love this scene - it made me like Taystee instantly lol
 
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Parker 10-04-2013 07:45 PM

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...54008087_n.jpg

Parker 10-10-2013 01:42 PM

Ahahahahahahahahaha!!
 
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