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justkim 09-11-2011 07:09 PM

gaea, it is more the misinformation that pisses me off. I am not upset with you, I am upset with the person who told you this bull-crap...
what ruins the natural nail is illegal products that contain MMA and a heavy handed tech. Most of the non traditional nail places use bigger brushes that contain more of the monomer and you are bound to have it get on the cuticle area which in turn causes over exposure. Let me see if I can find the article I hand out when I taught. I will work on finding it later this week. Sorry for the rant...

**puts her soap box away...

gaea 09-11-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justkim (Post 416164)
gaea, it is more the misinformation that pisses me off. I am not upset with you, I am upset with the person who told you this bull-crap...
what ruins the natural nail is illegal products that contain MMA and a heavy handed tech. Most of the non traditional nail places use bigger brushes that contain more of the monomer and you are bound to have it get on the cuticle area which in turn causes over exposure. Let me see if I can find the article I hand out when I taught. I will work on finding it later this week. Sorry for the rant...

**puts her soap box away...

thanks Kim that is very kind of you and i would appreciate any information you can pass along to me.

taking care of my nails is important to me and i get great satisfaction from doing them myself.

gaea 09-25-2011 08:56 AM

Not Impressed
 
With Ultas Red Carpet Manicure Gel...

I followed the instructions to a tee...the gel took hours to set even having my nails under the light as instructed ....

I think im going to save my money and invest in the "gelish" brand and the light system. The gelish brand is what my nail tech uses when i can go to see her so i already know that is a brand that sets properly with the light system.

SecretAgentMa'am 09-25-2011 11:02 AM

I have terrible nails. They barely grow, and when I do get a little length on them, they bend and tear. They are getting better, though, because I found a fantastic product. Nail-aid Collagen Nail Builder. I know a lot of people love Sally Hansen products, but I've always found them to be lacking. Never did a thing for me. Also, Sally Hansen products are animal tested, which is a deal-breaker for me. Nail-aid is made in the USA, not animal tested, and contains no DBP, toluene, or formaldehyde. It's fabulous stuff. The Collagen Nail Builder promises visibly longer, stronger nails in one week, and it absolutely delivers. My nails still have a way to go to be truly healthy, but I can definitely see progress.

Rivkeh 10-02-2011 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SecretAgentMa'am (Post 424609)
I have terrible nails. They barely grow, and when I do get a little length on them, they bend and tear. My nails still have a way to go to be truly healthy, but I can definitely see progress.

...okay, this year I have started having Shellac CND done when I have a manicure and it is amazing! The colors and the lustre stay beautiful for 2 plus weeks....before that I was having manicures with regular OPI nail polish and was lucky if I got three days. The other great thing about Shellac is that it keeps your nails strong, and therefore you get better growth.

BugsAndKisses 10-06-2011 09:06 PM

I can't wait to try this!

SecretAgentMa'am 10-06-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BugsAndKisses (Post 432989)
I can't wait to try this!

That is so many different kinds of awesome. I'm totally doing this after my next manicure.

Medusa 03-06-2012 07:50 PM

For anyone who has done the shellac manicures, I found a product that I am in LOVE with:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...rterA9A891.jpg


This is called "Sensationail" by Nailene. It's a kit that costs about $50 and they have about 12 different colors.
The kit comes with the LED light and all the stuff you need. It takes about 10 minutes to do your nails and they are hard as a rock after.

I am in LOVE.

This ends up costing less than $5 per manicure!

Talon 04-12-2012 11:48 AM

Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

Gemme 04-24-2012 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon (Post 563770)
Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

The acrylic would have to come off I think. I've had the gels done before and I liked them. They didn't damage my nails like acrylic. They would last up to 2 weeks for me, but I am hard on my nails.

I just got my first shellac manicure and I like it too. It's lasted about a week and a half so far, and may make it to 2 before I get annoyed enough to have it redone.

Princess 04-24-2012 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 571609)
The acrylic would have to come off I think. I've had the gels done before and I liked them. They didn't damage my nails like acrylic. They would last up to 2 weeks for me, but I am hard on my nails.

I just got my first shellac manicure and I like it too. It's lasted about a week and a half so far, and may make it to 2 before I get annoyed enough to have it redone.

I love shellac! My nails stay pretty much flawless for at least 3 weeks. They have kits you can buy to do them at home now too, but I trust that I will mess them up if I do lol!

Princess 04-24-2012 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BugsAndKisses (Post 432989)
I can't wait to try this!

Curious, did you ever do this? When I tried it was quite a bit messy and it didn't turn out like I had hoped...(do they ever?)

justkim 04-24-2012 08:42 AM

What type of gel are you thinking about? Something along the line of Shellac by CND, OPI also has a version, actually there are many versions out there. Although you can use acrylic and gel together the person doing the process should be able to do it right. I would suggest finding someone in your area that uses Young Nails. It is the product I use as a licensed nail tech/cosmetologist. I have used OPI and the CND Shellac of those two I prefer OPI. As far as tips go, I only sculpt my nails and steer clear of using tips, mind you this is just my preference and may not be something your nail tech does.
I wish you luck in finding what works for you.




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Originally Posted by Talon (Post 563770)
Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?


starryeyes 04-24-2012 09:34 AM

I wish I could grow my nails naturally, but I can't. I usually bite them (yuck!) but it's a habit I have never been able to break. So.. I get the fakes. I get acrylics with gel. This serves two purposes, long nails (ya!) and no more biting. I spend about 60.00 a month on fills and about 30 for a new set which need to be replaced every 6 weeks. It's kinda expensive, but I like it! It just HURTS like a mutha when I have to get the old ones ripped off and new ones put on. Every time I say I'm not gonna do it, and just get a regular manicure but I always change my mind lol :)

starryeyes 04-24-2012 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon (Post 563770)
Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

When I get my acrylic tips, they put a clear gel on top instead of a top coat. You have to put your hands under a UV light for 3 min so they dry. My nails look perfect until my next fill, always. You can pick a color if you want too. They have all kinds of gel colors at my nail salon.

justkim 04-24-2012 10:44 AM

Starry, why are you having your acrylic nails replaced? There is NO reason to have them removed. EVERY time they *rip* off the acrylic they are taking more of your natural nail. This is what makes the natural nail weak and causes damage that really can not ever be undone. I will guess by the price you are stating here is that you go to a non-traditional nail salon? It should NOT be painful to get your nails done! If it is hurting during the service or after find a different salon. I have all of my clients to their natural nails, they just have an overlay of either acrylic or gel. Nails is what I do, staying educated is important to me so I am sorry if this comes off as being mean. If you have any questions please by all means send me a pm.


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Originally Posted by starryeyes (Post 571769)
I wish I could grow my nails naturally, but I can't. I usually bite them (yuck!) but it's a habit I have never been able to break. So.. I get the fakes. I get acrylics with gel. This serves two purposes, long nails (ya!) and no more biting. I spend about 60.00 a month on fills and about 30 for a new set which need to be replaced every 6 weeks. It's kinda expensive, but I like it! It just HURTS like a mutha when I have to get the old ones ripped off and new ones put on. Every time I say I'm not gonna do it, and just get a regular manicure but I always change my mind lol :)


starryeyes 04-24-2012 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justkim (Post 571816)
Starry, why are you having your acrylic nails replaced? There is NO reason to have them removed. EVERY time they *rip* off the acrylic they are taking more of your natural nail. This is what makes the natural nail weak and causes damage that really can not ever be undone. I will guess by the price you are stating here is that you go to a non-traditional nail salon? It should NOT be painful to get your nails done! If it is hurting during the service or after find a different salon. I have all of my clients to their natural nails, they just have an overlay of either acrylic or gel. Nails is what I do, staying educated is important to me so I am sorry if this comes off as being mean. If you have any questions please by all means send me a pm.

I go to a Vietnamese nail salon. I have had my nails done for over 15 years and I always have to get them replaced. They use a white tip or a now a white powder that eventually grows out and needs to be replaced. I know it hurts like a mutha! Maybe it doesn't need to be done, maybe it's a money making scheme who knows. I have been to many nail salons and they always do this tho.

justkim 04-24-2012 11:03 AM

There really is no reason for this other than to take your money. It can be replaced without removing everything. I do it all of the time for my clients, who say it is now nice to know that getting your nails done shouldn't hurt.
Where are you at in San Diego? I might be able to hook you up with a salon that might make getting your nails done not so painful...



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Originally Posted by starryeyes (Post 571820)
I go to a Vietnamese nail salon. I have had my nails done for over 15 years and I always have to get them replaced. They use a white tip or a now a white powder that eventually grows out and needs to be replaced. I know it hurts like a mutha! Maybe it doesn't need to be done, maybe it's a money making scheme who knows. I have been to many nail salons and they always do this tho.


apretty 04-24-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon (Post 563770)
Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

I've been having this done for about 6 months--Shellac is used at my salon.

CA_BabyCakes 04-24-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon (Post 563770)
Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

I found that when i put gel on french tip nails sometimes the gel discolors after about a week. The gel is thick and not removable with nail polish remover so when it discolors i have to return and have it professionally removed. I went back to just using clear coat, which i can remove and reapply myself.

Talon 04-26-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 571609)
The acrylic would have to come off I think. I've had the gels done before and I liked them. They didn't damage my nails like acrylic. They would last up to 2 weeks for me, but I am hard on my nails.

I just got my first shellac manicure and I like it too. It's lasted about a week and a half so far, and may make it to 2 before I get annoyed enough to have it redone.

Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

Talon 04-26-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justkim (Post 571744)
What type of gel are you thinking about? Something along the line of Shellac by CND, OPI also has a version, actually there are many versions out there. Although you can use acrylic and gel together the person doing the process should be able to do it right. I would suggest finding someone in your area that uses Young Nails. It is the product I use as a licensed nail tech/cosmetologist. I have used OPI and the CND Shellac of those two I prefer OPI. As far as tips go, I only sculpt my nails and steer clear of using tips, mind you this is just my preference and may not be something your nail tech does.
I wish you luck in finding what works for you.


Thanks for the info, justkim...I will have to look into the sculptured nails as a possible option. Are they as strong as acrylic?

vixenagogo 04-26-2012 12:25 PM

tomay-to...tomah-to.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon (Post 573149)
Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).

Talon 04-26-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixenagogo (Post 573157)
a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).





Thanks for clearing the gel/shellac thing up. And also the acrylic/gel thing, too. :groucho:

justkim 04-26-2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon (Post 573149)
Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

Talon, more damage is done by the nail tech to the natural nail when they are not trained properly. ALL of my clients could go without nail enhancements if that is what they chose to do. But they don't. I take any and all classes that are offered to me so that I can provide the most current and up to date information to my clients.
You can put gel over acrylic, but proper steps need to be taken to make sure you get the best adhesion.

justkim 04-26-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixenagogo (Post 573157)
a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).

There should NEVER be any aggressive filing on the natural nail bed no matter what you are having done. You only need to remove the shine from the natural nail bed. I have used buffing block to remove the shine. I had no problems with my product adhering to the nail. It is all in the prep work. Acrylic doesn't need to be removed for every application, if you are being told this then you are being ripped off.

I do this for a living, I also teach. It is my job not only to educate my students but also my clients. I share this information with you all because I love what I do, not because I want to be perceived as a know it all... If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

Gemme 04-26-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon (Post 573149)
Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixenagogo (Post 573157)
a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).

Quote:

Originally Posted by justkim (Post 573353)
There should NEVER be any aggressive filing on the natural nail bed no matter what you are having done. You only need to remove the shine from the natural nail bed. I have used buffing block to remove the shine. I had no problems with my product adhering to the nail. It is all in the prep work. Acrylic doesn't need to be removed for every application, if you are being told this then you are being ripped off.

I do this for a living, I also teach. It is my job not only to educate my students but also my clients. I share this information with you all because I love what I do, not because I want to be perceived as a know it all... If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

Vixen and kim pretty much answered you, Talon, so I won't get into a long or drawn out dialogue but I will say that I'm up to 2 weeks now with my shellac mani and, though I can see the growth and where it could be filled in, I got a French so it still looks good.

I will say that next time, I'm going to have them go really deep on the white part. That way, when it grows out, I won't be able to see the shadow of the growth as soon. It may last me 3-4 weeks if I do it that way.

*edited to say*

I spent the first 3 days of my new shellac mani in water. If I wasn't in the pool, I was in the jacuzzi so my nails took a beating. I looked more pruney than humany. I have a regular pedi on my toes and the polish began to chip on the edges a little bit but my fingernails still looked fabulous. I'm really liking this.

justkim 04-26-2012 09:01 PM

Some of my handy work...
 
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...94335806_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...78289671_n.jpg

Beloved 04-27-2012 04:22 AM

I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.

justkim 04-27-2012 08:29 AM

Go ahead and pamper yourself... Do it when it is cold too... Your feet will thank you...



Quote:

Originally Posted by Beloved (Post 573495)
I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.


Talon 04-27-2012 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 573393)
Vixen and kim pretty much answered you, Talon, so I won't get into a long or drawn out dialogue but I will say that I'm up to 2 weeks now with my shellac mani and, though I can see the growth and where it could be filled in, I got a French so it still looks good.

I will say that next time, I'm going to have them go really deep on the white part. That way, when it grows out, I won't be able to see the shadow of the growth as soon. It may last me 3-4 weeks if I do it that way.

*edited to say*

I spent the first 3 days of my new shellac mani in water. If I wasn't in the pool, I was in the jacuzzi so my nails took a beating. I looked more pruney than humany. I have a regular pedi on my toes and the polish began to chip on the edges a little bit but my fingernails still looked fabulous. I'm really liking this.

*chuckle*....I'm in the water quite a lot too, especially in summer, so the shellac sounds perfect for me.
Thanks, for everyone's response, I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge. :lips:

girl_dee 04-27-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beloved (Post 573495)
I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.

me too , bodyworker with long nails not good!

i made a post about pedicures on the nail me butch version, i am so sick of seeing people get foot funguses from pedicure places!

Beloved 04-27-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajun_dee (Post 573668)
me too , bodyworker with long nails not good!

i made a post about pedicures on the nail me butch version, i am so sick of seeing people get foot funguses from pedicure places!

I've never seen a place that uses basins. What you wrote scares me!

Beloved 05-09-2012 03:54 AM

Update: I had a pedicure last week and I found a woman that is REALLY clean. She uses a foot bath with disposable liners. She doesn't share files, she dries yours out and keeps it in a baggie with your name on it.

I was telling her how HAPPY I was to see her foot bath and that I was scared of getting foot fungus from the places with those whirlpool like tubs. She told me that foot fungus isn't the worst thing you could get. There is a place in the mall that closed by the health dept because it was spreading MRSA! She also had a client that had a gift certificate to another place and she got a blood infection when that drill they use on acrylics nicked her cuticle. She said that the state goes crazy with these places because when they try to shut them down they say they sold it to another person (another family member usually) and they get the run around.

She told me some other disgusting stories as well. Just be careful everyone!

justkim 05-09-2012 06:57 AM

Beloved, be careful with leaving your files in a bag. This can encourage the growth of undesirable types of bacteria also. I also use the drop in disposable liners. They are worth their weight in gold and the peace of mind they bring to clients is invaluable. Glad you found someone who makes you comfortable.





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Originally Posted by Beloved (Post 581336)
Update: I had a pedicure last week and I found a woman that is REALLY clean. She uses a foot bath with disposable liners. She doesn't share files, she dries yours out and keeps it in a baggie with your name on it.

I was telling her how HAPPY I was to see her foot bath and that I was scared of getting foot fungus from the places with those whirlpool like tubs. She told me that foot fungus isn't the worst thing you could get. There is a place in the mall that closed by the health dept because it was spreading MRSA! She also had a client that had a gift certificate to another place and she got a blood infection when that drill they use on acrylics nicked her cuticle. She said that the state goes crazy with these places because when they try to shut them down they say they sold it to another person (another family member usually) and they get the run around.

She told me some other disgusting stories as well. Just be careful everyone!


Ms. Tabitha 05-09-2012 07:48 AM


femmsational 05-09-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms. Tabitha (Post 581432)



Holy cow!! I am a total nail girl. Even if I have a ball cap, jeans no makeup etc.. my nails are done. always.

Those duck nails freak me out. How do you wear shoes??? Wouldn't they cut the hell out of your other toes? And me being a putsy person normally, if my hands had nails that flared like that, I'd knock everything I tried to touch over. :|

I guess if you're used to them they might not be so hard to live with??? Maybe?

Still....Holy cow!!!


julie

Ms. Tabitha 05-09-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by femmsational (Post 581502)
Holy cow!! I am a total nail girl. Even if I have a ball cap, jeans no makeup etc.. my nails are done. always.

Those duck nails freak me out. How do you wear shoes??? Wouldn't they cut the hell out of your other toes? And me being a putsy person normally, if my hands had nails that flared like that, I'd knock everything I tried to touch over. :|

I guess if you're used to them they might not be so hard to live with??? Maybe?

Still....Holy cow!!!


julie

I agree Julie ~ I may not have my makeup on and my hair may be pulled back in a ponytail but, my nails and especially my feet, are done :)

I could hurt myself with those nails :blink: or someone else :blush:
I don't think you would be able to wear closed toe shoes if your toes had the 'flare' on them, could you?

Imagine the pain if one of them broke?

justkim 05-09-2012 01:35 PM

Ummm... NO! Not only No but ummm... hell no... I have seen some crazy trends come and go when it comes to nails. This is NOT an option I wish to entertain. I have done them on a client, she loved them...
To each their own...




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Originally Posted by Ms. Tabitha (Post 581432)



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