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dixie 04-20-2011 08:02 PM

cat burglar...lol
 
It would be so much simpler if my cat would do this instead of meowing at the door...lol

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2...0259febcd0.gif

Rook 04-20-2011 11:33 PM

Can someone from England, or educated in British Monarchy Protocol explain something to me....?

Queen Elizabeths' Uncle, Edward VIII {y'know, the guy who abdicated, giving his Brother the British Throne, changing Lineage entirely, which allowed Elizabeth to later be Queen}, was given a few ultimatums if he chose to stay with a twice divorced American {Wallis Simpson}.As King, he couldn't be with a divorce'e period, since he is the Head of the Church of England and must be living embodiment of its teachings {Let's not get into Henry VIII, yet.}, his own PM threatened to Resign, he was forced to Resign or face a political Race and damage the Monarchy, right?

Ok....

Why is Charles still heir Apparent?...
I'm aware his marriage was civil, and Diana is Dead, but Camilla's ex-husband is still alive, no?
The Queen and Prince Consort didn't attend their civil wedding, given Elizabeth's status {supreme spiritual leader in the church of England...}....
On top of that, from what I've read{I get bored easily in the libraries and dialysis} Charles isn't exactly 100% into Church of england. His Father, prince Philip renounced his Greek titles, but had a Greek Orthodox influence on Charles....
Doesn't that worry people over there...?

Why is Charles allowed this divorced wedding + Chance @ Throne{rather than renounce and give it to William}....But Edward was pretty much cornered and in a way Exiled?....
I know they won't have kiddies, but still...Edward and Wallis didn't either.

I thought of this while watching "Kings Speech"{figures, eh?}

things that make ya go , hmm, I suppose.....

Jess 04-20-2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rook (Post 324226)
Can someone from England, or educated in British Monarchy Protocol explain something to me....?

Queen Elizabeths' Uncle, Edward VIII {y'know, the guy who abdicated, giving his Brother the British Throne, changing Lineage entirely, which allowed Elizabeth to later be Queen}, was given a few ultimatums if he chose to stay with a twice divorced American {Wallis Simpson}.As King, he couldn't be with a divorce'e period, since he is the Head of the Church of England and must be living embodiment of its teachings {Let's not get into Henry VIII, yet.}, his own PM threatened to Resign, he was forced to Resign or face a political Race and damage the Monarchy, right?

Ok....

Why is Charles still heir Apparent?...
I'm aware his marriage was civil, and Diana is Dead, but Camilla's ex-husband is still alive, no?
The Queen and Prince Consort didn't attend their civil wedding, given Elizabeth's status {supreme spiritual leader in the church of England...}....
On top of that, from what I've read{I get bored easily in the libraries and dialysis} Charles isn't exactly 100% into Church of england. His Father, prince Philip renounced his Greek titles, but had a Greek Orthodox influence on Charles....
Doesn't that worry people over there...?

Why is Charles allowed this divorced wedding....But Edward was pretty much cornered and in a way Exiled?....
I know they won't have kiddies, but still...Edward and Wallis didn't either.

I thought of this while watching "Kings Speech"{figures, eh?}

things that make ya go , hmm, I suppose.....

I'm just waiting for the Gay Monarch.... sorry.. I'm not English so I don't know their protocol... it is an interesting question though.. I am not sure why I am still awake or why I even opened this.. dammit Rook.. you and your ponderings!!!!

Rook 04-21-2011 07:54 AM

~Gives Jesse some Chamomile Tea~ hehehehe....
:moonstars:

I did wake up with more though, bare with me on the Rambling here..lol

I woke up, and my brother tried his Damnedest to convince me to read even a few e-pages of Larry Flynts "One Nation Under Sex: How the Private Lives of Presidents, First Ladies and Their Lovers Changed the Course of American History " book, believe me, I told him right off the bat "Do you realiZe the level of awkwardly Weird you've reached? I wake up, craving coffee, and u smack my sleepiness away with this? I don't wanna discuss Larry Flynt with you at 8 in the fuckin morning...shoo, go away."
Eventually I caved in and read a little since he was narrating for everyone in the neighborhood to listen.....
He said the book explains amongst other things a Presidents homosexual relationship with a Senator at a time where Slavery was an issue and said Senator was a heavy influence on presidential decisions, during a Time when homosexuality was condemned by Death....
That last part hooked me...
The precious Democratic U.S., that condemns, currently, other countries and denounces "harsh" punishments elsewhere, among them being Homosexual deaths in so-called extremist Islamic/Socialist countries.
At one point, they did the same? Bah! Ok, they stopped, but still approved it once, and I'm more than sure there's a convenient reason to stop somewhere..
:|
I did look into it, to see if Flynt was just being controversial...
I found this:
Quote:

In modern times eight countries have no official heterosexist discrimination. They are Argentina, Belgium, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, South Africa, and Spain. This full non-discrimination includes the rights of marriage and adoption. Two additional countries have marriage rights for same-sex couples, namely Portugal and Canada, but in Portugal this right does not include same-sex adoption, and in Canada it varies by jurisdiction (it is legal everywhere except in Nunavut and Yukon). The Canadian Blood Services’ policy indefinitely defers any man who has sex with another man, even once, since 1977. LGBT people in the US face different laws for certain medical procedures than other groups. For example, gay men have been prohibited from giving blood since 1983, and George W. Bush's FDA guidelines barred them from being sperm donors as of 2005, even though all donated sperm is screened for sexually-transmitted diseases and even the most promiscuous heterosexual men are not barred from donating.
And then I read the "blurb"

Quote:

Ben Franklin saved the American Revolution by seducing French Women. A gay love affair between President James Buchanan and Senator William King aided the secession movement. Woodrow Wilson’s girlfriend dictated his letters to the German Kaiser. And lesbian relationships inspired Eleanor Roosevelt to become a revolutionary crusader for equal rights. The colorful sex lives of America’s most powerful leaders have influenced social movements, government policies, elections and even wars, yet they are so whitewashed by historians that people think Thomas Jefferson and Abe Lincoln were made of marble, not flesh and blood.
Granted, when he mentioned a part about Eleanor Roosevelt being bisexual, I shrugged mumbling "That's not exactly news..but ok."

after I checked a sampling from Amazon, I reserved a Kindle copy, and told my grinning brother "oh shaddap"..


:blink:

BoDy*ShOt 04-21-2011 08:18 AM

Schick Quattro for Women TrimStyle's commercial is really dumb. ESPECIALLY whilst having the first cup of coffee of the day. dumb.

Kobi 04-21-2011 09:26 AM



Lauren Bush, daughter of GW and Laura Bush is engaged to
David Lauren, son of Ralph Lauren.

So, when married, she will become Lauren Lauren.

:|



Rook 04-21-2011 10:15 AM

Unless she retains her maiden name and Hyphens...
Lauren Bush - Lauren....
or...
becomes a perfume

Lauren Bush di Lauren.....

ew

Blade 04-21-2011 10:26 AM

while listening to "Belle's" dedication to her Dad, it brought back memories of my Nannie and Pa and how devoted they were to each other, a true picture of love and devotion and a perfect example of until death us do part....forever. They were married over 60 yrs when he died in 2002. The first time I heard this song was right after he died, and I knew Mom and I but especially Nannie missed him so much, Lordy I had a good cry that day.

Sparkle 04-21-2011 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rook (Post 324226)
Can someone from England, or educated in British Monarchy Protocol explain something to me....?

Queen Elizabeths' Uncle, Edward VIII {y'know, the guy who abdicated, giving his Brother the British Throne, changing Lineage entirely, which allowed Elizabeth to later be Queen}, was given a few ultimatums if he chose to stay with a twice divorced American {Wallis Simpson}.As King, he couldn't be with a divorce'e period, since he is the Head of the Church of England and must be living embodiment of its teachings {Let's not get into Henry VIII, yet.}, his own PM threatened to Resign, he was forced to Resign or face a political Race and damage the Monarchy, right?

Ok....

Why is Charles still heir Apparent?...
I'm aware his marriage was civil, and Diana is Dead, but Camilla's ex-husband is still alive, no?
The Queen and Prince Consort didn't attend their civil wedding, given Elizabeth's status {supreme spiritual leader in the church of England...}....
On top of that, from what I've read{I get bored easily in the libraries and dialysis} Charles isn't exactly 100% into Church of england. His Father, prince Philip renounced his Greek titles, but had a Greek Orthodox influence on Charles....
Doesn't that worry people over there...?

Why is Charles allowed this divorced wedding + Chance @ Throne{rather than renounce and give it to William}....But Edward was pretty much cornered and in a way Exiled?....
I know they won't have kiddies, but still...Edward and Wallis didn't either.

I thought of this while watching "Kings Speech"{figures, eh?}

things that make ya go , hmm, I suppose.....

Well I think the main thing is... society has changed A LOT since the 1930/40s when Edward VIII abdicated the crown.

If Edward VIII had been a different type of person, he may not have abdicated and he may have married Wallis Simpson regardless of the PM or government's opinion. As you say, Henry VIII had no problem making up his own rules - including creating the Church of England and making himself the connection between god and the church.

But according to most historical records Edward VIII was never keen on the crown, not political, not interested in duty or obligation. The film the 'King's Speech' doesn't go in to great detail about it, but Edward (David) was incredibly reticent about becoming King.
It is true that Mrs. Simpson's marital status was considered scandalous at the time. Twice divorced was not common for anyone in the 30s/40s, regardless of class or status. BUT the British government was far more concerned with Wallis Simpson's "Nazi sympathizer" status and her connection to high ranking officials in the Reich, which is historically accurate.
As an interesting aside/ there is much innuendo and speculation regarding David and Wallis' relationship; some people close to them have said that they had a S/m relationship, in which Wallis was the Dominant. I've never read or seen anything that proves that, but it is interesting none the less. :)

As to the Royal Family today...
The world has changed so much, societal norms and expections have shifted very quickly over the course of the past century. What would have been scandalous in the early part of the 20th century (like divorce or marrying a divorcee) is very normal now.
Queen Elizabeth II is very conservative - socially and politically. It is said that she kept Charles from marrying Camilla back in the 70s/80s because she was deemed inappropriate (and married). She approved the marriage to Diana (19 years old and a "confirmed virgin"), despite the fact of the age differential or the fact that she and Charles had known each other for less than a year. Well...we know how that ended....
Charles and Diana's marriage was a spectacular and very public failure.
The Queen was implicated as playing a part in that, publicly.

The Queen's sister Margaret was divorced.
The Queen's daughter Ann was divorced. The Queen's son Andrew divorced.

Regardless of expectations and protocol - divorce has become a reality.
Forcing or arranging marriages doesn't seem to work so well.

In addition people the world 'round were very critical of Elizabeth II's response (or lack of response) when Diana died. She was described as cruel and cold, dispassionate, stuck in the past, not in touch with the people (as opposed to Diana who is still described as the "People's Princess").

The percentage of the British population that describes itself as "Royalist" is dwindling as quickly as the number of people who go to church (any church) each week.

The Royal Family is expendable; even more so at a time of social, political or economic crisis. In a constitutional monarchy, the monarchy is largely ceremonial. The monarchy has no legislative or governing powers.

The monarchy has to adapt to survive, and that's why Charles was allowed to marry Camilla. Why there is a generally more casual, less formal, attitude of the members of the Royal Family.

scootebaby 04-21-2011 10:32 AM

i think this has been mentioned somewhere on here but...
 
im sitting on the couch trying to relax after having a stern talk with the Prince about grades....surfing the web,tv in background when suddenly i hear "Magic Bullet and party(only 2 words that registered at first) imagine my surprise when i look up and its a blender type thing called Magic Bullet.....wth was the inventor thinking ":lol2:

Kobi 04-21-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rook (Post 324340)
Unless she retains her maiden name and Hyphens...
Lauren Bush - Lauren....
or...
becomes a perfume

Lauren Bush di Lauren.....

ew



Lauren Lauren bo bauren bonana fanna fo fauren
fee fy mo Mauren......

Guess it good she didnt get engaged to a guy with the last name Wacker tho huh?

Gawd please let me get over this silliness before I get in the
dentists chair today.


Kätzchen 04-21-2011 10:41 AM

http://www.gdargaud.net/Humor/Pics/string_theory.png

hpychick 04-21-2011 06:29 PM

Quack Quack
 
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, guess what?! It's a duck.

:duck::rubberducky::duck:
:rubberducky::duck::rubberducky::duck:
:duck::rubberducky::duck:
:rubberducky::duck::rubberducky::duck:


afixer 04-21-2011 07:56 PM


today has been ...
:blink:

Guy 04-21-2011 08:12 PM

The best things in life are free *plus shipping and handling*

Charming Texan 04-21-2011 08:36 PM

http://www.ravensys.net/churchoffrag...iss%20Domo.jpg

Tommi 04-22-2011 03:31 AM

Here they come again
 
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...W5v%2ByMFXs%3D

Rook 04-22-2011 05:33 PM

The way it's rainin' here in Athens OH, looks like the Hocking river's gonna spill into the streets real soon.....
the "soccer" parks, RV camps, and playgrounds by the river, including bike path are submerged....and yes, folks @ Wal-mart still stop and look at the river a few yards away......
nosey dumdums....

hpychick 04-22-2011 05:45 PM

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...be-friends.jpg

Rook 04-22-2011 08:06 PM

Quote:

Ferreting also has a season in the U.K., it is a futile exercise to work the ferrets once the rabbits begin their breeding in spring. The ferrets will inevitably find the young rabbits underground, make a kill and feed, then curl up and fall asleep and require digging out.
I knew it, there's always a catch with these buggers...They're incredibly smart, cunning, adorable....and selfish..
LMFAO....
What they left out is, usually it's the Male who does Ferreting, when and if he 'falls asleep' or simply gets distracted, they tend to send a Bigger, Badder, Meaner 'Hob' spook him, and finish the job...Other times, they a send a 'Jill', there's contradictions as to which is better for Ferreting because of this, the 'Hob' being a hob*or boy*, if he's hungry enough, he'll eat the rabbit, and snooze, the 'Jills' tend to go after smaller prey, so, she's sent, to figuratively "Drag his lazy fuckin ass" back, hehehehehe


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