Yeah! Like Dairy and the antibiotics. Uugh. I get accused of doing the preachy thing when I start to point this stuff out.
People, in general, prefer denial.

Yeah same here. I got on the milk kick a few months back no one payed any attention. Oh well all I can do is tell them. I find that anything that is the "norm" or "programmed" into our brains some people go into denial when you try to tell them that it's hurting them or it's not true. Milk can't be bad the TV says it's good. :seeingstars:

i know! the horror! i really miss Wheatables, Milanos, Oreos, Snickers, and Capn' Crunch Berries. i found alternatives and even some new things at Trader Joe's. but i grew up on some of those items that are now GMO products so it's painful.

Yup- and our generation dealt with DES and it being put into prenatal vitamins given to all pregnant women by ob/gyns! Gee, and I developed cervical cancer... wonder why!

On another note- Michael Moore being in oakland drew a whole lot of people around here from far and near!

When I took my pooch to the dog park yesterday there were dozens of "new" people there with their dogs. All in groups and talking politics. So, of course I asked about what was going on. They were going to OWS in Oakland and found out about Point Isabel Regional Dog Park (largest in North America).

It was great until most of them allowed their dogs out in the restricted areas on the Bay which is a bird sanctuary for our shore birds. It is posted all over the artea. I was pissed. We have worked so hard to keep the park an off leash area as bird groups have tried to ban dogs entirely from that side of the park. This has been a 3 year battle. We finally got people educated about how dogs disturb nests and their scent blows the area for birds feeding. UGH!!

But, a few of us "regulars" talked to folks and pointed out the signs for the refuge areas and they left those areas with their dogs. No birds were chased or hurt, thankfully and there was no need to call the park rangers. I hope that they pass along the information to other OWS visitors that might take their pooches out there.

I know that some had to have seen the signs and just didn't pay attention. This happens a lot with people that are not from here and take dogs out to get some good exercise while on vacation, etc. That and not picking up after their dogs even though our park organization and the Regional Park Service has bags on posts all over the park and notices posted about owner's responsibilities in the park. Cleaning up after and also managing your dog in terms of any aggression or unsafe behaavior is fully covered under park rules. It is interesting to me that people often times think it is OK to do things like this in other people's "backyards," especially when they are political activist types engaging in protests that reflect a sense of community civil rights for all.

But, it all worked out and it looks like there are more and more people getting involved in the OWS movement.

MTV's Occupy Wall Street Shows: Horrifying Co-Option or Great Publicity?
As OWS seeps further into pop culture, these are ever-pressing questions. Here's why we're feeling optimistic about it.

http://www.alternet.org/story/152883...eat_publicity/

Michael Moore Explains OWS to Anderson Cooper: "This Movement is So Beyond, 'Hey Let's Get this Candidate Elected'"

Yesterday Anderson Cooper wondered where the Occupy movement is headed, what with the snow and the winter, and Michael Moore had an answer: "The snow and the winter is not going to stop the collective anger," he said from Occupy Oakland, while several supporters behind him shook their heads in agreement. "I think it will only harden peoples' resolve." And when Cooper wondered if candidates would "rise up" from the movement, or if the Democratic Party would be impacted? Moore explained it further: "This movement is so beyond, 'Hey let's get this candidate elected.' Those days are over... we've all participated... What did we get? Where are we? We're in the worst shape we have been in this country that I have seen in my lifetime."

i've always said that the people have a toleration threshold for corruption as long as they can provide for themselves. what really gets me is how the financial sector can take my savings from me, but when i expect it back it's suddenly "socialistic wealth spreading". what the hell is that? i've heard the argument that "when you invest in the market there is a risk of losing money" when having this convo with other people. sure there is. but when only the people who invest their money lose, and everyone involved in the control of that loss gains from it, then it's less like a loss and more like piracy. i want it back.

"I hope they're (the 400 who control more money than 150 million of us) are really thinking about how they overplayed their hand."

Is Peter Schiff drinking is on Koolaid or is did his CEO buddies take a pool and bet he wouldn't go into a protest and on TV and let that effluvia flow out of his mouth?

"Capitalism is an evil system set up to benefit the few at the expense of the many."

Brilliant - thank you for posting this.

Michael Moore fuckin' rocks.

It was good to see people of color there with him. We need their participation in this movement and their voices should be heard.

this was from my town's Occupy

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/arti...111029007/1001

and while i'm not going to tape a dirty grody dollar to my face, i AM carrying a black sharpie around witth me and writing "occupy" on the front of every single bill that passes through my hands. i'd love to see this cash being passed around all over America.

He does rawk! I think just about all of his crew are POC, he makes real efforts to hire POC as well as women and not just tokens.

I am feeling that there is going to be much more going on with the OWS Oakland protests and events, especially in light of what happened last week. People are very upset with that young man getting hurt and Mayor Qwan's actions (in actions).

Scott Olsen is improving daily, thankfully. I plan on being there on the 4th in support of him and all of the 99ers that are trying to be heard. Somehow, we have got to make this a moment of change in the US.

Egyptians march from Tahrir Square to support Occupy Oakland protestors
http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/tahrir.html

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I like that sign. THE SAME GOAL.

local TV news says Olsen was released from hospital yesterday...

The CA Nurses Association has set up a tent on the Plaza

the Mayor says they can stay...

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Occupy Wall St. face New York's first snow storm of the season Saturday without the benefit of propane tanks and generators that they had been using to cook food and keep warm.

The early season snowstorm was the result of unseasonably cold air mixing with a storm system on the East Coast. Forecasters predicted power outages and downed trees in some areas.

A day earlier, up to 40 firefighters removed the group's propane tanks and six generators, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. That left the demonstrators to battle the cold weather seeping through their tents, blankets and sleeping bags.

"These are fire hazards (and) against the law," Bloomberg said during his weekly WOR-AM radio show Friday. "Our first concern is safety."

Demonstrators described the removal as an attempt to restrict Internet use and make their lives more difficult as a cold front moved into the region.

Occupy Wall Street spokesman Ed Needham said the removal of the generators was "certainly a directed effort to thwart our situation." He said solar powered generators were being brought in to replace those taken.

"It makes us feel like this is a confrontational relationship between the city and the park, and that's not the type of relationship we're trying to foster," Needham said. "We'll do just fine this winter. Our volunteers are as creative and resourceful as they are committed."

wth?? first concern is safety my ass... seems to me that the first concern is eviction... at the expense of safety. :(

me too! i think it's pretty awesome! :)

Police raid occupy Denver
 

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https://www.facebook.com/occupydenver

not true in Fl where I am. In fact they said they won't be charging for users to use the debit card. The only requirement for a free account is to have a savings account also and have $1 go to that everytime you use the debit card which you can transfer the funds back to checking if you want.

At least 20 arrested in Denver Occupy. http://www.9news.com/news/article/22...epper-sprayed-

Occupy Denver heats up