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Martina 11-08-2012 12:23 AM

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...alia-obama.jpg

Allison W 11-08-2012 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun (Post 695110)
This is unreal. Nazi's and KKK on the streets. This is the old West at its worst.

Seriously if I were not seeing it I would have a hard time believing it.

Another article:


It is Going to Take the DOJ or a Conservative Candidate to Oust Sheriff Joe Arpaio with the Archaic Tea Party Stronghold Here


This is really all about Democracy. If this vote is stolen from the people and this criminal Sheriff is allowed to stay in office well we are all in serious trouble. If the win is legitimate, so be it. The Tea Party poured a lot of money into this race. But KKK and Neo Nazi's should not be running this state. People are fighting for life here.

In fairness, the DOJ or another conservative candidate aren't the only things that could oust Arpaio. He's eighty years old, and all the outside money in the world can't buy off the Grim Reaper forever. Not yet, anyway.

That said that's kind of beside the point. Yeah this is seriously fucked up and Joe is a bad bad man and shouldn't be spending another day in power, let alone however many years he's got left on the egg timer. His re-election also says some pretty bad things about the moral fibre of the people who re-elected him, at that.

Miss Scarlett 11-08-2012 05:44 AM

One of the commentators on the CBS overnight news stated that Romney "looked shellshocked" when he came out to make his concession speech.

I confess that I was getting a tad concerned about the outcome the other night but when I saw that Romney failed to carry Massachusetts and Wisconsin I realized that Obama was going to win. It says a lot when you can't carry your own state and that if your running mate.


LeftWriteFemme 11-08-2012 07:17 AM

Ohio GOP Senate Candidate Josh Mandel's Family Takes Out Newspaper Ad Denouncing His Anti-Gay Positions

Just over two weeks ago I posted a video of Ohio GOP senate candidate Josh Mandel espousing his anti-gay positions in debate, saying that he opposed 'DADT' repeal and is a supporter of marriage between a man and a woman, but promising to represent every resident of Ohio and be "blind" to sexual orientation.

Some members of Mandel's family took a full-page ad out in the Cleveland Jewish News denouncing him:

Open Letter to Josh Mandel,
Republican 
Candidate for U.S. Senator from Ohio


Dear Josh,

Four years ago you came into our family. We still remember the excitement surrounding your wedding, and how happy our family members were as they described it afterwards. So we were deeply saddened when you announced during your October 18th debate with Senator Sherrod Brown that you believe only some people should share this right to marry the person they love, while others should not.



Your cousins, Ellen Ratner and Cholene Espinoza, are among the many wonderful couples whose rights you do not recognize. They were married almost eight years ago in Massachusetts, at a time when it was the only state in the nation to allow same-sex marriage. Their wedding, like yours, was a beautiful and happy occasion for all of us in our family. It hurts us that you would embrace discrimination against them and countless other loving couples in Ohio and around the country.



We are equally distressed by your belief that gay men and women should not be allowed to serve openly in the military. Like you, Cholene spent many years in the armed forces. A graduate of the Air Force Academy and an accomplished pilot, she became the second woman in history to fly the U-2 reconnaissance plane. And yet, you have argued that she, like many gay and lesbian soldiers, should be forced to live a life of secrecy and lies.



Josh, as you know, our roots are deep in the Cleveland area and we have friends and family we love throughout Ohio. This family is sprawling and diverse, but it has always believed strongly in the values of equality and inclusiveness. Your discriminatory stance violates these core values of our family. Nevertheless we hope that over time, as you advance in years and wisdom, you will come to embrace the values of inclusiveness and equality as well.



Your cousins,



Michael Ratner, Bruce Ratner, Karen Ranucci, Pamela Lipkin, Rebecca 
Ratner, Elizabeth Ratner, Patrick Markee, Jacob Ratner, Ana Ratner

Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/11/ohi...#ixzz2BdXa6Rmf



http://www.towleroad.com/2012/11/ohi...y-positio.html

Kobi 11-08-2012 07:57 AM

Dead candidates win elections in Florida, Alabama
 
(Reuters) - Florida Democrat Earl K. Wood and Alabama Republican Charles Beasley won their respective elections but they will not take office.

Both men died weeks before the November 6 election yet managed to beat their very much alive opponents by comfortable margins.

http://news.yahoo.com/dead-candidate...202607386.html

Miss Scarlett 11-08-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 695364)
(Reuters) - Florida Democrat Earl K. Wood and Alabama Republican Charles Beasley won their respective elections but they will not take office.

Both men died weeks before the November 6 election yet managed to beat their very much alive opponents by comfortable margins.

http://news.yahoo.com/dead-candidate...202607386.html

When things like this happen I can't help but wonder exactly how many of the folks that voted for these two candidates knew they had died...

Zimmeh 11-08-2012 08:47 AM

I knew that Earl K Wood had passed away and I did my research on the guy replacing him and voted for Earl K Wood. Scott Randolph seemed to be a better candidate than Huckeba.

Zimmeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett (Post 695386)
When things like this happen I can't help but wonder exactly how many of the folks that voted for these two candidates knew they had died...


Miss Scarlett 11-08-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmeh (Post 695399)
I knew that Earl K Wood had passed away and I did my research on the guy replacing him and voted for Earl K Wood. Scott Randolph seemed to be a better candidate than Huckeba.

Zimmeh

That's awesome Zimmeh! It's so important to research candidates before voting. I wish more people did this. You rock!!!!!

The_Lady_Snow 11-08-2012 09:06 AM

Click for Link
 
White People Mourning Mitt Romney

princessbelle 11-08-2012 09:45 AM

I've been looking around the webs at the different networks the night of the election. I found this clip of Diane Sawyer. Wow. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she was just really tired, but who knows. The tweets were so funny. Dang, i had 2 margaritas, was loaded on carbs and a ton of comfort junk food and my words weren't slurring as bad as hers.



Okiebug61 11-08-2012 10:26 AM

I think she was just worn out. I'll take her coverage over the other two boring anchors anyday.

princessbelle 11-08-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Okiebug61 (Post 695448)
I think she was just worn out. I'll take her coverage over the other two boring anchors anyday.

I like her too.

It was a long day for everyone!!!


Greyson 11-08-2012 01:39 PM

Associated Press Survey Done Before the Election
 
"The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans. Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent)."




http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-27-11-47-18

Greyson 11-08-2012 02:13 PM

Ooops, Almost Forgot................
 
Roseanne Barr Finished Sixth in the Presidential Race



http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...hed_fifth.html

The_Lady_Snow 11-08-2012 04:14 PM

Source: CBS News Article
 
Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss



Mitt Romney's campaign got its first hint something was wrong on the afternoon of Election Day, when state campaign workers on the ground began reporting huge turnout in areas favorable to President Obama: northeastern Ohio, northern Virginia, central Florida and Miami-Dade.

Then came the early exit polls that also were favorable to the president.

But it wasn't until the polls closed that concern turned into alarm. They expected North Carolina to be called early. It wasn't. They expected Pennsylvania to be up in the air all night; it went early for the President.


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girl_dee 11-08-2012 04:26 PM

*It was like a sucker punch*


Really?

the arrogance of this man didn't allow him to even REMOTELY feel that Barack Obama would win, so sure of himself.

A'ishah i believe said he hadn't even considered a concession speech.

My sister and i today chatted and are in awe that SO many people are shocked.

UofMfan 11-08-2012 04:59 PM

Mitt Romney Campaign: We Lost Florida To Obama In Presidential Election

ruffryder 11-08-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett (Post 695386)
When things like this happen I can't help but wonder exactly how many of the folks that voted for these two candidates knew they had died...

A shame. Some people go to the polls to basically vote for the President of their choice. Is that bad? Maybe, maybe not. At least they are voting for their choice and it's counting. On the other hand, What about all the other candidates or referendums, amendments that they are voting for and perhaps have no clue about. :| Alot of people just tend to go with their party and vote that way.

Did ya'll hear that Puerto Rico voted and opts for statehood and Congress will have to approve that. What do you think about that? More latino/P.R. voters for sure. How does all this fare for the election of 2016 and if Republican Sen. Marco Rubio should run for the Presidency.

A lot of latinos, women, and gays voted for Obama for the various reasons Romney didn't appeal to them. However I know some latinos, women, and gay people that voted for Romney. I guess it all comes down to what your interests are in the United States and what appeals to you. Perhaps some of their social issues took a back seat to other issues such as economic, foreign, and environmental. I wonder if the Republicans will look at this coming into 2016 and try to appeal to a broader audience.

This is an interesting article World Reacts To Obama Win and The Issues He Faces Globally Looks like he not only has his hands full at home but abroad for his next term.

Allison W 11-08-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ruffryder (Post 695720)
I wonder if the Republicans will look at this coming into 2016 and try to appeal to a broader audience.

Considering Paul Ryan is on the short list for the GOP presidential nominee in 2016, I'm pretty sure the current misunderstanding is "WE LOST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ALIENATE THE NOT-OLD-RICH-WHITE-CHRISTIAN-MALE DEMOGRAPHIC ENOUGH."

Martina 11-08-2012 10:25 PM

The pundits and tea party folks are saying that Romney wasn't really a conservative, was not far enough to the right. And some folks, I am sure, still blame the liberal media.

But if those were the only reasons Romney and others lost -- not far enough to the right and liberal media bias -- they would have seen it coming. They would not have been shocked.

Republicans have been fear mongers for generations. Appealing to racism and homophobia is clearly not going to work as the electorate becomes less white and and as older voters are replaced by younger ones.

And Obama's ground game has now been shown to have been more effective than expensive ads. All over the press today is Karl Rove's PAC's failure -- that the $100 million raised got them nothing, not a single win.

Plus Republicans have to note the wins for gay marriage.

Republicans will have to move to the center. They will have to find a message that is not about the fear of gays and POC. They will learn the great data driven ground game. They invented it after all.

Think of it. They thought they had won. Not only did they lose, it wasn't really that close. They lost seats in the Senate when they expected to gain them. They can see they are losing the cultural issues -- gay marriage, pot, etc.

In the future, they will have to SOUNDLY repudiate any future Todd Akins. They won't be able to appear on stage with Donald Trump. MOST OF ALL, they have to find a way to get moderate Republicans engaged in the primary process.

Think of what happened in Indiana. Dick Lugar, a senior Senator, lost BIG in the primary to tea party maniac Richard Mourdock, who made his rape comment and lost Republicans that seat. Think of it. The Republicans went from having one of the most senior and influential Senators on the Hill to losing the seat to a Democrat. *Thump*

The primary process pushed Romney so far to the right that he couldn't come back. If he had campaigned as Moderate Mitt, he might have won the general election. But if he had, he would never have gotten the nomination. Catch-22.

Maybe someone with the charisma of Chris Christie can get the nomination next time, especially after this disaster. But they will still lose down ticket races if they don't change their message re gays and POC and if they don't find a way to involve more moderates in the political process.

The Republicans are embarrassed, and they should be.


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