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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 141929)

SF, thanks for the articles. It does make me wonder how long, given the increased support/drive towards anti-immigration stance, before we see mob mentality and rule happening. As the frothing continues to increase to demonize the undocumented worker it won't be long until we see the worst results on the front page. Some may say this is defense and just action for the US and other nations to discourage others from coming into a nation illegally but it's the ripple effect that can happen as society sees this.

Politicians often forget the power and impact of their words -- what is said, what is not said but heard, how it's said, when it's said -- has on society and those listening in. We don't speak in a vacuum nor do we live in one. Removing simple and basic human rights -- and finding it acceptable to do so -- is not, IMO, the sign of a nation that has evolved.

This whole exercise strikes me not as solving the true issue but just attempting to win brownie points in a time when one cannot provide real answers to economic challenges (i.e., don't spend money we don't have but don't find ways to create jobs either). As I read a variety of news sources about this issue I cannot help but wonder if this is a class sleight of hand (e.g., Ignore the man in the background and just watch the shiny balls in the front) to focus us away from problems that we really need to face and address with harsh reality.

I would so love to see politicians do the right thing, not the politically expedient for themselves thing. Sigh.

If we honestly think that gang mentality is not going to happen we are all wrong. Allow me to share some information that happened to migrant worker Luis Ramirez in Pennsylvania

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/02/...grant.beating/

How the parents reacted

The whole story:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/22/lia...ref=newssearch

Kobi's reactions aren't surprising to me, they kicked me in the gut as always when it comes from one of my queer peers. So Linus the mob mentality you speak of is out there, it will, it is happening NOW.

It breaks my heart.

Ignorance is everywhere.

oh my god that scares me.
because they are right, the message they are sending is clear:
there are no consequences for killing those of us on the fringe of society.

a fact already evident by the killings/beatings of trans people and gays all over the country.

Latino in America Part 1

I don't understand why US citizens want the US to be a Fascist country where our papers (papeles) have to be shown.

I grew up like that, in Argentina and it makes me crazy to think that anyone would want another human being to have to live like that.

Latino in America Part 2

Latino in America Part 3

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 142105)

I'll take a stab at that.
Primarily it has to do with control. Those who have it and those who don't.
It is fascist and that is how Hitler gained so much of it. When free thinking people give up their freedoms and follow instead of lead, this is what happens, invariably.

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 142105)

Fear makes people do ugly things.

Latino in America Part 4

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Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 142112)

In my mind it is so against what I thought the United States of America stood for. Not that historically it ever has. Maybe my idealistic dream of what the US should stand for? My hope.

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Originally Posted by Liam (Post 142114)

Fear makes people do ugly things.

Fear of difference, or fear of made up uglyness? Both I guess.

Latino in America Part 8

I have a question for the people who believe in keeping everyone out of the US, checking papers, tough immigration laws, etc.

Have you ever traveled outside of the US other than Canada and Tijuana?

Are you 100% Native American?

How did your ancestors arrive in the US?

Were your ancestors welcomed to the US? How did it impact their lives?

Why do you think you deserve to be in the USA more than anyone else?

Would you be willing to have your children have to carry ID papers or be picked up by the "law"?

ps...ok several questions :)

Latino in America Part 9

Thank you Snow for posting all of these.

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Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 142137)

Thank you Snow for posting all of these.

No problem....

I am angry, hurt, and I hope that you can see the good the bad and the ugly in us, after all we are not different than any other race, we fuck up, we commit crimes we go to church, hang out with families. We are JUST AS PROUD of our heritage and customs as the white man.