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suebee 05-05-2010 04:13 PM

...ignoring all sports convo as per usual.... ;)
 
Second example: A woman is running around a shopping mall threatening anyone who comes close to her with a knife. She's disoriented - in fact, she's suffering from a psychotic break. The police follow her into a store and using their tasers, immobilize and disarm her. Nobody was hurt. This happened last year in a small city a couple of hours' drive away from here. I believe the woman had attacked her husband before going to the mall. Can't remember the details. She was hospitalized - for the psychosis, not injuries related to the tasering. The officers involved received public praise for the restraint shown in their intervention.

I think this is an appropriate use of the taser, though I still think it can be dangerous. This situation could have ended much differently, and deadly force probably would have been justified.

As for tasering someone for being a nuisance? .....the man doesn't have the right to call himself a law enforcement professional. Their training includes the psychology of intervention, not simply the physical dynamics of it. Was the kid on the field an asshat? He certainly was. But tasering for conveniance......not cool. Not cool at all. In fact - sometimes it's deadly.

The_Lady_Snow 05-05-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cybersuebee (Post 99633)
Second example: A woman is running around a shopping mall threatening anyone who comes close to her with a knife. She's disoriented - in fact, she's suffering from a psychotic break. The police follow her into a store and using their tasers, immobilize and disarm her. Nobody was hurt. This happened last year in a small city a couple of hours' drive away from here. I believe the woman had attacked her husband before going to the mall. Can't remember the details. She was hospitalized - for the psychosis, not injuries related to the tasering. The officers involved received public praise for the restraint shown in their intervention.

I think this is an appropriate use of the taser, though I still think it can be dangerous. This situation could have ended much differently, and deadly force probably would have been justified.

As for tasering someone for being a nuisance? .....the man doesn't have the right to call himself a law enforcement professional. Their training includes the psychology of intervention, not simply the physical dynamics of it. Was the kid on the field an asshat? He certainly was. But tasering for conveniance......not cool. Not cool at all. In fact - sometimes it's deadly.


Illegal use of the mall in a sports related conversation

penalty

-89765 points


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Apocalipstic 05-05-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 99622)
Isn't it strange that nobody is going near the double standard issue?

I don't think anyone should be tased. But yeah, it totally looks like double standard.

Andrew, Jr. 05-05-2010 05:11 PM

Lacrosse in Maryland
 

As many of you know, lacrosse is huge here in Maryland. And recently, a native Maryland woman was murdered while away at college, Yeardley Love, 22 yo, due to graduate next month. She was murdered by another Maryland native, George Huguely, 22 yo and a senior as well.

George Huguely and Yeardley Love both attend University of Virginia. Huguely is being charged with first degree of murder of Love. Huguely slammed Love's head against a wall, and punched her face, after forcing his way into her apartment. The police found Love's body in a pool of blood on her bed face down.

It seems that George Huguely was tasered in Lexington, VA after assulting a cop. Then he was tasered after being drunk, unable to drive, resisting arrest, swearing, and trying to hit a female cop.

I am not sure of what George Huguely's brain is like after being tasered twice. I think he definitely has some mental health issues. I am just so horribly saddened by what I am watching on the local news about a gal whom everyone knew in town. And now we are going to bury her.

I just don't believe tasering is the answer. I am not sure of what the long term effects are afterwards. And to have someone like Yeardley Love being involved in a romantic relationship with someone who is domestically violent. Sad.

Andrew, Jr. 05-05-2010 05:18 PM


Lady Snow,

I still cannot get over the pics of your kids. OMG! Your babies grew up! I still think of them as babies and always will. I think that is the Uncle in me. :fishing:

The_Lady_Snow 05-05-2010 05:28 PM

:| Sporting event......

:writer:

Nat 05-05-2010 05:31 PM



The tasing incident I found most disturbing was the tasing of student Mostafa Tabatabainejad at the UCLA library a while back. It was before, "don't tase me, bro." Watching this made me feel less safe in the world, and the feeling has stuck with me to some extent.

He was tased at least 4 times while other students begged the officer to stop.

I don't think people should be tased unless they are committing or threatening a violent act.

weatherboi 05-05-2010 05:43 PM

did they even have tasers back then?? :eyebrow:

i bet if they did it was like the cell phone evolution and they were probably too heavy to carry!!! :thinking:

i am seriously trying to address the double standard thing but are there any recent examples...at like a sporting/public event??



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Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 99492)
Double standard much?

They never tazed Morgana the Kissing Bandit now did they?



SuperFemme 05-05-2010 05:50 PM

http://www.womenstreakers.com/misc.html

Cyclopea 05-05-2010 06:01 PM

ridiculous.
i hope that cop gets sued.
:explode:

Gemme 05-05-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 99336)
No one ever runs across the race track at NASCAR... I am kinda jealous...

sad but true:soccer:

Nascar fans are smarter than other sports fans, obviously.


Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 99552)
So sports are way more important than the welfare of a child.

Ayyyyy.

Like someone...Blade?...said, there is no way...at that moment to determine the exact age of the person who is

1. creating a potentially dangerous situation
2. interrupting a game (a huge no no no matter what)
3. is possibly in the act of breaking a law

If someone did that at a game I was at, I would hope that they would take care of the situation as fast as possible. I do, however, prefer that they not use tasers unless they can't avoid it.

Gemme 05-05-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 99719)

Apparently, cricket brings out the streaker in many of us.

One of the women....I won't disclose which one...looks EXACTLY like I do naked. :blink:

Nat 05-05-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 99719)

I'm afraid I enjoyed that site for the wrong reasons.

Cyclopea 05-05-2010 06:11 PM

running onto the field is a longstanding philly tradition, certainly nothing to get one's boxers in a bunch about. they get chased, arrested, and brag to their grandkids about it for the next 50 years. it's what true fans do. :shocking:
ahhh youth...

weatherboi 05-05-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 99719)



well...
nakedness may be the reason for never tasering these women!!


ok...so i am gonna get serious about this...

i wonder how many new yorkers/oklahoma city peeps get nervous at a public event when a person starts to act out?? i mean they just found a bomb in times square.

i am personally under the suspicion when i leave my space where ever i may be with whoever i may be with that it is a possibility some freak is gonna come and rain on our parade/sporting event/charity function. i allow myself to be ready for this :quickdraw:

i think if a venue decides to use a taser to enforce behavior then the fans should be told so...maybe some funny examples on the "big tron":mohawk:

Gemme 05-05-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weatherboi (Post 99749)
well...
nakedness may be the reason for never tasering these women!!


ok...so i am gonna get serious about this...

i wonder how many new yorkers/oklahoma city peeps get nervous at a public event when a person starts to act out?? i mean they just found a bomb in times square.

i am personally under the suspicion when i leave my space where ever i may be with whoever i may be with that it is a possibility some freak is gonna come and rain on our parade/sporting event/charity function. i allow myself to be ready for this :quickdraw:

i think if a venue decides to use a taser to enforce behavior then the fans should be told so...maybe some funny examples on the "big tron":mohawk:

At least you know their almost definitely not carrying any weapons on their person. :blink:

I like your idea about promoting the knowledge that tasering would be an acceptable form of restraint and discipline for those who choose to do something like this. Truth in humor and using humor to make the message more palatable 'n all.

SuperFemme 05-05-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weatherboi (Post 99749)
well...
nakedness may be the reason for never tasering these women!!


ok...so i am gonna get serious about this...

i wonder how many new yorkers/oklahoma city peeps get nervous at a public event when a person starts to act out?? i mean they just found a bomb in times square.

i am personally under the suspicion when i leave my space where ever i may be with whoever i may be with that it is a possibility some freak is gonna come and rain on our parade/sporting event/charity function. i allow myself to be ready for this :quickdraw:

i think if a venue decides to use a taser to enforce behavior then the fans should be told so...maybe some funny examples on the "big tron":mohawk:


I am not sure, but wasn't it an off duty cop with a surprise tazer that got the boy?

I don't think a fan on the field is comparative to terrorism. Suspicious packages in the stadium are more scary. Also, I haven't been to any event sports, music or otherwise since 9/11 that doesn't wand and hand search spectators.

Anything can happen anywhere. I don't want to live my life in fear of what *might* happen. Just go ahead and kill me now rather than having me exist in fear.

The_Lady_Snow 05-05-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 99759)
I am not sure, but wasn't it an off duty cop with a surprise tazer that got the boy?

I don't think a fan on the field is comparative to terrorism. Suspicious packages in the stadium are more scary. Also, I haven't been to any event sports, music or otherwise since 9/11 that doesn't wand and hand search spectators.

Anything can happen anywhere. I don't want to live my life in fear of what *might* happen. Just go ahead and kill me now rather than having me exist in fear.


Ohio State Games do not have a wand to go over, they look at your ticket you go in, they may have you open your back pack if you have one and briefly look in..

If you are a student, they check your ID if it's a student ticket..

Though I would like to see any Michigan Wolverine tasered as they entered the field..

I am a sick puppy though:wateringgarden:

Bad_boi 05-05-2010 06:45 PM

Only if they are being violent.

SuperFemme 05-05-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 99772)
Ohio State Games do not have a wand to go over, they look at your ticket you go in, they may have you open your back pack if you have one and briefly look in..

If you are a student, they check your ID if it's a student ticket..

Though I would like to see any Michigan Wolverine tasered as they entered the field..

I am a sick puppy though:wateringgarden:

Oh. We don't likey the Wolverines?

I guess it depends on the venue as far as searches and wanding. Who knew? I might not go to an event where there weren't heightened security precautions.

What team are the puppies?


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