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betenoire 11-09-2010 06:32 AM

UGH now I feel like a meaniepants bitchface for saying he was a virgin and lived in his mommy's basement.

He's clearly not a terrible person.

But I might be.

Kobi 11-09-2010 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MadeMistakes (Post 223985)
I made the game. Sorry, I only just saw this thread. The game has been popping up everywhere recently and it's hard to keep track of! I fully respect what you said both in your Facebook message and on here, the game is bad.

I just wanted to tell you you're not the activists I was talking about, in fact I thought the way you handled this was good. Other people seem to react by telling people my personal info, and talking about how I "want gay people to be killed". This isn't true, I made this game when I was a stupid kid, and I'm trying to get rid of it now.

Sorry for any offence I caused! The game should be down within "24 to 48 hours", after the decision to remove it has been "moderated" by NG staff.

I was paid nothing for the game. This whole thing was just a stupid mistake.

Edit: I was 15 when this was made, and I didn't meant any hate, we were stupid kids messing around. I know that's no excuse, just validating things

Ok I am duly impressed that you folks made such a profound impact on this young man that he actually came here, made a membership(?), and clarified his intentions. Well done!

Nat 11-09-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 224043)
Ok I am duly impressed that you folks made such a profound impact on this young man that he actually came here, made a membership(?), and clarified his intentions. Well done!

I think it was because Diva was nice to him and because maybe he's not a monster after all. :)

Jess 11-09-2010 08:10 AM

Have to say I am impressed also. With a 17 year old gamer boy living under the same roof, I am constantly amazed at the stuff that I hear coming from his room.

Christie and I get opportunity aplenty to have those conversations with him regarding words that hurt/ offend/ trigger. In talking with him, we are both acutely aware that it is part of their generational slang. He is rarely happy to hear that it offends and hurts folks and I believe he sincerely does "catch himself" right afterward sometimes and ponders what he said.

I don't know exactly where kids went from playtime being building forts and seeking grand adventures to killing anything that moves with whatever cache of weaponry they can gather in these video games. That said, I truly suck at video games, but I do enjoy killing the zombies or vampires in some of the games ( that operate with one trigger instead of using both hands..LOL) And I freely admit to going to find the Carmeggedon game Kobi mentioned.. I kinda sucked at that too.

I am not only impressed that the kid came here to apologize but that he was also able to manipulate code and create a game at 15. That's pretty cool. Hopefully, he may go on to do great things, a little more enlightened on his journey.

Ebon 11-09-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by betenoire (Post 224031)
UGH now I feel like a meaniepants bitchface for saying he was a virgin and lived in his mommy's basement.

He's clearly not a terrible person.

But I might be.

Nah I don't think you're a bad person. You didn't try to sue him or shoot him with missiles of justice. Maybe just a BB gun of justice, a talking to was all he needed. You don't approach certain people the same way you would approach a big corporation or politician, especially a 19 year old nerd. My nerd comment still stands because I am one. Mom I was right!! Again!! What is this 2 times in a month? Uh oh I'm in trouble now. :|

1PlayfulFemme 11-09-2010 12:26 PM

I, too, am impressed...I'm not sure that I would have the..*ahem* balls to have gone to a group of people that I insulted (when I was his age) and apologized openly. I appreciate that effort on his behalf...

(I think it also shows that a lil bit of education and kindness can really change the world..) Just sayin' ;)

Jesse 11-09-2010 12:33 PM

Yes and I do hope as well that our little family here can see this as a small victory and an example of the power we have when we all pull together, rather than tear one another apart.

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Originally Posted by 1PlayfulFemme (Post 224176)
I, too, am impressed...I'm not sure that I would have the..*ahem* balls to have gone to a group of people that I insulted (when I was his age) and apologized openly. I appreciate that effort on his behalf...

(I think it also shows that a lil bit of education and kindness can really change the world..) Just sayin' ;)


Diva 11-09-2010 02:36 PM

Just wanted to say that Ryan and I messaged back & forth on FB until about 4 this morning...

Sometimes, I am "off" on peoples' intentions, but I think he is genuinely remorseful about this.

I suggested to him that, perhaps he could find an organization there in the UK to whom he could donate his skills ~ using his 'power' for good. (He had asked what he could do.) So we'll see what he does with that. All in all, I think I've made a new friend here. He seems like a nice young man.

May I just say that YOUR reaction to him going to the trouble to post in here is refreshing. I will certainly tell him how impressed Y'all were with him. May I quote You?

Thanks!

Nat 11-09-2010 02:58 PM

That's great!

Gemme 11-09-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by betenoire (Post 224031)
UGH now I feel like a meaniepants bitchface for saying he was a virgin and lived in his mommy's basement.

He's clearly not a terrible person.

But I might be.

Nah. You were probably right about him living with his mom. The virginity and basement is not something I'm going to split hairs over.

:blink:


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Originally Posted by Organicbutch (Post 224081)
Nah I don't think you're a bad person. You didn't try to sue him or shoot him with missiles of justice. Maybe just a BB gun of justice, a talking to was all he needed. You don't approach certain people the same way you would approach a big corporation or politician, especially a 19 year old nerd. My nerd comment still stands because I am one. Mom I was right!! Again!! What is this 2 times in a month? Uh oh I'm in trouble now. :|

Yes, dear. You are right. Twice in one month.

Don't get used to it.

betenoire 11-09-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Organicbutch (Post 224081)
Nah I don't think you're a bad person. You didn't try to sue him or shoot him with missiles of justice. Maybe just a BB gun of justice, a talking to was all he needed. You don't approach certain people the same way you would approach a big corporation or politician, especially a 19 year old nerd. My nerd comment still stands because I am one. Mom I was right!! Again!! What is this 2 times in a month? Uh oh I'm in trouble now. :|

That's true. I may have called him a virgin but I didn't call him Hitler.

Julie 11-09-2010 03:54 PM

This had a beautiful ending... And sometimes these little issues which might not seem important are.

Ryan was so brave and beautiful to come into a space which could have been hostile. I read the post late last night (after a bit of wine) and did not respond - just read and wrote Diva.

-------------------------------------------- Letter to Ryan

Ryan, thank you for taking the time and register and come in here... I know you will only see this posting through Diva, but I want you to know -- As a parent... I am so proud of you and as a human being, truly honored to share this planet with you. You will do great things with your life, because... You are one of the evolved people. You have such a gift for someone your age, and perhaps you can figure out a way to turn it into something really positive for kids. I work in Peace and Tolerance education with children ages 5 -19 (part of the UN) - Some children are carrying machine guns at the age of 8 and fighting. Ryan, if you ever want to create a game, which can be fun and exciting for these youth - please let me know. I would love to have you part of this. (though we are non-profit - so this is just for the good of humankind).

Again, thank you for being so brave and standing up!

Julie

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(Please Diva make sure he get's my letter to him).

I heard from Tom (founder of the website) this morning (aussie morning here).

Another one of our children in the world, who grew up as an outsider in his school. Another great human being who gets it.

Seriously people - while some thought it would not make a difference -- It in fact has. We touched some lives and made people aware. That is a great thing.

So Happy Here and feeling oh so peaceful.

Love (feeling mushy too)

Julie

p.s. Organic - not sure who you were talking too... But you are my Son, so I will respond! You were right 2x's -- don't make it 3 or I will have to beat your ass. Kisses to you and your beautiful girl.

Julie 11-09-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by betenoire (Post 224299)
That's true. I may have called him a virgin but I didn't call him Hitler.

LOL well I didn't either - I just posted Hitler's photo.

OMG... I feel so badly now.

DomnNC 11-09-2010 11:03 PM

Kudos to you all, you did a wonderful thing 2x over!

Diva 11-09-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteFemme (Post 224317)
This had a beautiful ending... And sometimes these little issues which might not seem important are.

Ryan was so brave and beautiful to come into a space which could have been hostile. I read the post late last night (after a bit of wine) and did not respond - just read and wrote Diva.

-------------------------------------------- Letter to Ryan

Ryan, thank you for taking the time and register and come in here... I know you will only see this posting through Diva, but I want you to know -- As a parent... I am so proud of you and as a human being, truly honored to share this planet with you. You will do great things with your life, because... You are one of the evolved people. You have such a gift for someone your age, and perhaps you can figure out a way to turn it into something really positive for kids. I work in Peace and Tolerance education with children ages 5 -19 (part of the UN) - Some children are carrying machine guns at the age of 8 and fighting. Ryan, if you ever want to create a game, which can be fun and exciting for these youth - please let me know. I would love to have you part of this. (though we are non-profit - so this is just for the good of humankind).

Again, thank you for being so brave and standing up!

Julie

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(Please Diva make sure he get's my letter to him).
.


Thank You, Julie.....
I have sent it on to him....have not heard back just yet.



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