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Kenna 10-06-2014 11:55 PM

*dang phone typos*
Restraing=restraining

RockOn 10-07-2014 04:59 AM

note to Keena
 
Hey Keena,

If you will clear out your private message box .... then I will answer the question you asked me in your private message.

It is full and will not accept any more messages. That is what you get for being so popular. :)

Gemme 10-07-2014 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockOn (Post 940564)
In reality Gemme, I would be very different in my remarks here if I were wanting or hopeful of finding a partner online ... a lot more keyed down and respectable acting... but since I would not even consider a LDR, I think maybe I go for the effect ... see what kind of playfulness can be evoked if I am in a "take it to the edge" mood. And if I drop off the edge, no one cares and I do not mind at all either. :)

I appreciate you responding, RockOn.

My question is this: Why?

Why do you feel that you can be one way online and that anyone would believe you to be different in person? I just don't see the need for the duplicity, I guess. I'm a very 'take me as I am' and 'wysiwyg' kind of person, so it's just not how my brain works.

For me....and it's solely on me since you obviously received some positive responses from some femmes....but that was not taking it to the edge. It was more like using a bulldozer to shove someone over the edge. A bit too blatant for me but we all have our things and you just said you don't mind going over the edge, so that's that. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by JDeere (Post 940569)
Oh and takes the rose and puts you in my room, in water!

:|Sorry had a dummy moment!

:blink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleepyButch (Post 940584)
I had a dummy moment also. I couldn't figure out why you took the rose and then put Sweet Bliss in your room in water... lol

To each their own I suppose.. I'm still cracking up.

Thank you, Sleepy! lol

I thought it was just me scratching my head on that one.



However, to be more thread appropriate I would say that if I were looking for an intimate relationship with someone, I want everything. I want to see your soft underbelly and your grit and, hopefully, mine would match yours or at least complement it.

Sweet Bliss 10-07-2014 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDeere (Post 940569)
Oh and takes the rose and puts you in my room, in water!

:|Sorry had a dummy moment!

Dang. I had a visual of a bedside hot tub with rose petals and candles. Le sigh...(f)

Kobi 10-07-2014 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockOn (Post 940564)
In reality Gemme, I would be very different in my remarks here if I were wanting or hopeful of finding a partner online ... a lot more keyed down and respectable acting... but since I would not even consider a LDR, I think maybe I go for the effect ... see what kind of playfulness can be evoked if I am in a "take it to the edge" mood. And if I drop off the edge, no one cares and I do not mind at all either. :)



Im still working on my first cup of coffee, so I might have totally misread this.

Are you saying because you arent looking for something online that it is ok to present yourself as a rude, crude, disrespectful buffoon?

Are you saying, if you were looking for something online, you would present yourself in a more respectful manner?

Are you saying other people here, particularly women, do not deserve your best, or respectful posts, or general niceties of human interaction?

What exactly are you saying?

Jesse 10-07-2014 09:40 AM

I'm still trying to figure out why your room has water in it. Handing you a sump pump. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDeere (Post 940569)
Oh and takes the rose and puts you in my room, in water!

:|Sorry had a dummy moment!


Jesse 10-07-2014 09:43 AM

How about a snorkel instead?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Bliss (Post 940612)
Dang. I had a visual of a bedside hot tub with rose petals and candles. Le sigh...(f)


Sweet Bliss 10-07-2014 12:06 PM

:rofl::loveBFP::shark::waterski:

:titantic::theisland::sailing:

JDeere 10-07-2014 02:56 PM

Lmao I made a huge typo! Thanks for playing along everyone! I meant to put the rose in a vase full of water!

I need to do an error check each time I post!

Sweet Bliss 10-07-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDeere (Post 940669)
Lmao I made a huge typo! Thanks for playing along everyone! I meant to put the rose in a vase full of water!

I need to do an error check each time I post!

Typo huh? Looks like a Freudian slip from here.... :rofl:

Gemme 10-07-2014 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDeere (Post 940669)
Lmao I made a huge typo! Thanks for playing along everyone! I meant to put the rose in a vase full of water!

I need to do an error check each time I post!

Nah.

More fun this way.

JDeere 10-07-2014 07:31 PM

Bah, either or, doesn't matter as long as you folks have fun, at my expense!

:p :|

Sweet Bliss 10-07-2014 07:36 PM

See.. that's what a woman wants. A good sport.

A sense of humor and the ability to Plautus at bone's foilbles. :rubberducky:

JDeere 10-07-2014 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Bliss (Post 940731)
See.. that's what a woman wants. A good sport.

A sense of humor and the ability to Plautus at bone's foilbles. :rubberducky:

:eatinghersheybar: Yes I will be a good sport about it!

SleepyButch 10-07-2014 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Bliss (Post 940731)
See.. that's what a woman wants. A good sport.

A sense of humor and the ability to Plautus at bone's foilbles. :rubberducky:

Talk about Freudian Slip lol...

Sweet Bliss 10-07-2014 07:51 PM

I need what I give.

I want what I need.

oboejive 05-01-2015 12:23 PM

For me, it's really about the physical, emotional, and mental connection. If one of those is missing, it won't work.

JDeere 05-07-2015 01:08 AM

Trust, is the major thing that I want in a relationship.
Respect comes next but that is earned as well.

Someone who will actually stick around like they say they will, instead of playing me for months on end and leaving.

MysticOceansFL 05-07-2015 02:04 AM

1. Trust
2. Respect
3. communication
4. loyalty
5. compassion
6. Love
7. Understanding
8. Pateinces

JDeere 05-09-2015 08:05 PM

A killer sense of humor
Good cook and baker
Someone willing to take the time instead of rushing

Evolved 05-09-2015 10:21 PM

A heart, brain and a sense of humor.

JustLovelyJenn 05-10-2015 09:44 AM

Someone who stays... and works through problems...

JDeere 05-11-2015 08:04 PM

Someone that I can sing to and they don't care how bad I sound and like it that I sing to them.

(they means a femme, butch or ftm or the person I am dating)

MsTinkerbelly 05-11-2015 08:30 PM

Be it friend or romantic, my peeps have to have a wicked sense of humor.:pirate-steer:

JDeere 05-14-2015 12:30 AM

Another one to add is they have to be very open minded.

gotoseagrl 05-17-2015 02:10 AM

The way to a girl's heart is through her funny bone. Sense of humor is as important as anything else.

JustLovelyJenn 05-17-2015 10:45 AM

This morning... song lyrics tell it all... because "I want to hold your hand... I want to hold your hand"

anotherbutch 05-17-2015 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustLovelyJenn (Post 988641)
Someone who stays... and works through problems...

That's hard to find Jenn... most people bail at the first sign of trouble.. especially in this lifestyle.. in my experience.

imperfect_cupcake 05-17-2015 01:10 PM

I've given up for now. I'm going to finish school before I try looking again. I think I might try looking again. I'm not sure - we will see what happens when I get there. Putting myself out there and dating feels pretty awful most of the time and it's draining and discouraging. I like the sense of peace I have *not* dating.
And I have a list of things I need that so far are just too much. And I'm not going to change it.

But here it is anyway:

- Butch, genderqueer, boy-minded androgynous, or transmasculine gender.
- lives within 3/3.5 hours travel time of me. I can stretch that to five MAYBE if everything else is exceptional and they don't want me to eventually move to the states, because that isn't going to happen.


From my okcupid profile:

*You must be emotionally stable. Quirks are par for the course but I do need someone even keeled and reliable.

*Friends first. I'm looking for a partner. Let's get to know each other before we consider dating. Dating is also not a commitment. It's dating.

* You know the difference between Intimacy and Intensity.

* You are openly communicative. You try. Hard. Intentionally vauge or evasive I don't find cute or mysterious.

*I don't mind people using the odd joint, my friends indulge, but no daily pot smokers. Know moderation with alcohol - no binge drinkers.

*Sex-wise, I'm a "feisty" Femme submissive. You consider yourself at least interested in exploring kink and to being the Boss in the bedroom. No experience in kink needed - It's enthusiasm that turns my crank - But you need to be able to talk about sex without getting freaked out. I like organic go-with-the-flow too, but I need to know our desires match first.

*I'm a queer-dyke, not bisexual and not a lesbian's lesbian. Many of my partners did not identify as women, though they were all female embodied. No cis males.

JustLovelyJenn 05-17-2015 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anotherbutch (Post 990176)
That's hard to find Jenn... most people bail at the first sign of trouble.. especially in this lifestyle.. in my experience.

I know there has to be someone... somewhere... who works as hard as me to make the people in their lives happy... I can't give up... I don't like myself without hope.

imperfect_cupcake 05-17-2015 02:24 PM

I guess it depends.
"Giving up hope" for me was pretty key in me getting a grip on myself and becoming happy with being single, of link ng in the present tense and not the future, the thing where "everything will be better when I lose weight/get a partner/graduate school"
So I decided to focus on now and let go of the future. Its been a great thing for me :)

JustLovelyJenn 05-17-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperfect_cupcake (Post 990182)
I guess it depends.
"Giving up hope" for me was pretty key in me getting a grip on myself and becoming happy with being single, of link ng in the present tense and not the future, the thing where "everything will be better when I lose weight/get a partner/graduate school"
So I decided to focus on now and let go of the future. Its been a great thing for me :)

I apologize, this was in no way a dig. I spent three years very stubbornly not dating. It was the best thing I ever did. I love who I became. I am very happy with my life and myself. What I learned in that process is that I don't need anyone... but I do very much want someone. And now I have the strength and determination to not settle for less. So I'm dating and I'm looking... and I know someday, somewhere... I will find that person that is my perfect match... imperfections and all.

Hominid 05-17-2015 05:02 PM

I want someone who says "yes". In wanting that, I realized I have to do that as well. Anxiety, being a stodgy old stick in the mud ... get in the way.

I deserve someone going the extra mile for ME - I'm trying really hard to remember that, rather than chasing and wooing (which is admittedly fun). But I'd like to be chased, too - or at least I deserve someone making extra effort and extending kindness and feedback. I need to be wooed also. That's been very hard to admit.

I also have to admit that I'm NOT okay being alone. Or I'm too okay. But there are things I just don't do for myself, or care enough to do. There IS a hole, and as non-pc as that is, it also leaves me space for someone in my life. Note: there's not a hole in ME, just in my life. There is also a huge part of me, the best part of me, not in use when not in a relationship. I find many my age don't leave room after they work so hard to be self-sufficient. I am not completely self sufficient. I want someone who is invested enough to make sure I take my pills. Maybe makes me lunch for work. Again, not exactly PC or modern or the way things are done, but it's me and I'm not going to fight me anymore. I'm okay being alone, I have my routine, I'm not in a panic. But there are things in my life that require a partner for me to enjoy, and I'm not going to deny that fact any more.

LilyCat 05-17-2015 06:08 PM

I agree it is important for a person to spend sometime alone to "find" themselves or get to know themselves better. There are many great benefits of it.

I wonder, do you think a person can be alone too long?

Gemme 05-17-2015 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilyCat (Post 990216)
I agree it is important for a person to spend sometime alone to "find" themselves or get to know themselves better. There are many great benefits of it.

I wonder, do you think a person can be alone too long?

Yes.

When you have full conversations with your pets and inanimate objects simultaneously, then that is the moment it's been a little bit too long.

Hominid 05-17-2015 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilyCat (Post 990216)
I agree it is important for a person to spend sometime alone to "find" themselves or get to know themselves better. There are many great benefits of it.

I wonder, do you think a person can be alone too long?

I do - but not because of time per se, but because one become so self-sufficient and married to what life has been to "make room", and maybe so comfortable that leaving that comfort zone to take a chance and invest in someone is terrifying.

LOQUI 05-17-2015 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilyCat (Post 990216)
I agree it is important for a person to spend sometime alone to "find" themselves or get to know themselves better. There are many great benefits of it.

I wonder, do you think a person can be alone too long?


I think time extension it is something relative...each situation having its particularities...
However, hmmm I kind of agree with Gemme's point!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 990227)
Yes.

When you have full conversations with your pets and inanimate objects simultaneously, then that is the moment it's been a little bit too long.


imperfect_cupcake 05-17-2015 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustLovelyJenn (Post 990187)
I apologize, this was in no way a dig. I spent three years very stubbornly not dating. It was the best thing I ever did. I love who I became. I am very happy with my life and myself. What I learned in that process is that I don't need anyone... but I do very much want someone. And now I have the strength and determination to not settle for less. So I'm dating and I'm looking... and I know someday, somewhere... I will find that person that is my perfect match... imperfections and all.

Oh I don't see debate or discussion or a different point of view as a dig. I'm not that thensthative ;)

What I mean is, I have gotten to a place where I am ok with the possibility of me never having another long term relationship. It's important for me to not fear that or find it depressing. To work on being happy single and possibly just never having another relationship. I'm not looking. I will leave the door ajar, but I'm not going to go out of my way to impress someone that's not the kind of partner I would want.

If I do let someone in don't want pursuit or chasing from either of us.

I was codependant for so many years and I didn't want to be alone, I wasn't ok alone, I needed to function and care for someone else or I felt a gap.

The prospect of never having someone was bleak and terrible.

Now I am ok with the prospect of never having someone long term again. It's no longer depressing or scary. I like my life. It's easier than it has been in my past. It's peaceful. So if it is lovely and ok to be on my own right now, there is no need to think that I don't have everything I need right now. And will I feel that way in five minutes? Probably. And five minutes from then? Sure, absolutely. And five minutes from then and so on and so forth? Why not.

I don't wanna wind up with someone who needs me more than they want me. I'd prefer they didn't need me at all. But that they allow me to do some things for them cause I enjoy doing those things. And vice versa. I'd like someone who enjoys taking me out. Who gets a hard on from taking me to see a museum, or out for dinner, or to a lecture, or gallery. Who loves having pic nics with me. Easy to hang out with, be my friend, and laugh and talk a lot.

But I'm ok with that not happening. I've had a couple great loves. I'll be just fine with long periods of me being with me and sometimes some no commitment happy sex with someone for a couple months.

So if the right person strolls through the ajar door and takes me out for ice cream and a tool around a museum - fantastic. If not, my life is still lovely the way it is. :)

Jar 05-18-2015 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilyCat (Post 990216)
I agree it is important for a person to spend sometime alone to "find" themselves or get to know themselves better. There are many great benefits of it.

I wonder, do you think a person can be alone too long?

I think I found myself a long time ago but I've given up on a relationship. Either I pick the wrong people or I'm just not good at it so I'm ok with alone.

cinnamongrrl 05-18-2015 05:26 PM

I truly value intellect above all else....
a good sense of humor hopefully goes hand in hand with that...
compassion for people and animals is huge too



and...... I'm a sucker for a nice back and shoulders... :blush:


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