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Miss Scarlett 05-08-2012 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by claybaby (Post 580690)
My "OFOS" will never go away..it is ingrained into my soul and fabric and being.
I understand what OSB is saying...using those letters to describe oneself..well...sometimes is viewed in a negative way.
BUT what I have inside of me..doesn't ever leave..it is as deeply a part of me as is my heart and my blood...it is vital to who I am..and it doesn't have to be visible for it to be present..and my OFOS femme does indeed "feel it", sense it, and reap that energy from me...
For me, OFOS is not a part of the "good old days" or the 50's or about a woman being "less than" in MY world...it IS about being with manners, courtesies, respect, considerations, cavalierly manners, equality, voice,and many other things that will always be a part of my fabric and morals and has been part of me from my earliest days of being....just my .02.
I do like to open doors, pull out chairs, walk with my arm in small of her back, help her don/doff her coat, and walk on outside of her with elbow cupped in my hand..among so many other things...this is just what is part of me...my personal stuff I own...so much more to share BUT I do have to be in bed now..and up early....have a greta night...

Honey, this is one of the many things i just love about you...these things make me feel special, important and uninvisible...it reinforces the respect you have for me...yes, i do indeed "feel" it even when we're just sitting together...my inner OFOS feels and responds to your inner OFOS and quite often they communicate with each other without saying anything...

bigbutchmistie 05-08-2012 06:05 AM

Wanted to say hello to everyone. I havent posted here in a while. :)

OS Butch 05-08-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedance (Post 580686)
I almost had a little heart attack there! So, to clarify, have you almost stopped using the term, "OFOS", or have you almost stopped using the manners that OFOS refers to?

... Please, please tell me it's the first, and not the second option!

LOL! OFOS is very much a part of me and that will not change....I just am more likely not to use it as an identifier. Femmes know it when the see it;)

Firedance 05-09-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OS Butch (Post 581068)
LOL! OFOS is very much a part of me and that will not change....I just am more likely not to use it as an identifier. Femmes know it when the see it;)

Phew! I didn't want to lose another one of you because you were unappreciated!

And yes, we DO know it when we see it. But like you said, those manners aren't always welcomed.

My question is, is there anything about a Femme that tells you one would welcome that part of the dance?

ruffryder 05-09-2012 10:56 AM

Hello everybody! I consider my self an old fashioned kinda guy. I guess I was taught this growing up with my grandparents. It's a part of who I am and some girls appreciate that. I don't do it for show. I don't feel it makes me any better than anyone or is the best way to be. It's best for me and what I know. Some girls like when I hold the door open for them, take their hand in mine, walk hand in hand, walk on the outside closer to the road to assure her safety, put my arm around her or on the small of her back and guide her, message or call her just to make sure she got home safely, offer my jacket if she's cold. I do all this for my girl and I will do some of this for other women of all ages and hold open doors for anyone.

Now how to tell an OFOS femme.. I guess I can tell by the way she smiles and sighs and genuinely I can see in her reaction and face that she appreciates me the way I am. Sometimes I have to run ahead of her to get to the door as she's my lil energizer bunny rabbit and always on the go. Sometimes I just let her get to it first. *shrug* lol

I think all OFOS relationships are different but there is the main qualities and character of respect, admiration, adoration, and knowing someone has your back.

There are some OFOS relationships where the femmes want to do all the cooking or home chores while the butch / guy takes care of the auto duties and lawn. I was kinda in something like that in the past but I've always helped with cooking and cleaning. I for one like to be the one to take care of the lawn and outside. I enjoy stuff like that! I don't want her getting sweaty and dirty unless she really wants to. She loved her flowers and garden though. :)

Anyone can choose how they want their relationship to go. With mine I go with what works for both of us and still hold on to my OFOS values and beliefs that I was taught being a bit flexible and making sure she's happy too.

Thanks for the questions Firedance and I hope to see more interaction here!

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Originally Posted by Firedance (Post 581448)
Phew! I didn't want to lose another one of you because you were unappreciated!

And yes, we DO know it when we see it. But like you said, those manners aren't always welcomed.

My question is, is there anything about a Femme that tells you one would welcome that part of the dance?

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Originally Posted by Firedance (Post 580360)
So I have a question for ya'll.

As a Femme, I know OFOS when I see it. But I've been wondering how my counterparts recognize an OFOS Femme when you meet one?

~Fire.


diamondrose 05-09-2012 11:01 AM

this dynamic speaks to my soul.. just saying:)

Jess 05-09-2012 11:18 AM

There is a way she moves that with no effort, parts a sea of bodies to make way for her safe passage.
There is a way she breathes in the scent of a flower or a spice she is trying to identify.
There is a way her hand moves slowly over a favored fabric.
There is a way she will look once at me then take a second look holding her stare until I know she sees not only into me but through me.
There is a smile that radiates the room then upon realizing her own power will glance away with a soft knowing blush.
There is a way she will trace the line of her jaw with a rose petal.
There is a way she will begin to sing softly to her favorite song when she thinks I can't hear.

There are ways between us that have no language or need of it. There is a dance that while I may ask for, she has already chosen the music for.

Yes, there are things that let us know she is OFOS. These are a few of what I recognize.

OS Butch 05-09-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedance (Post 581448)
Phew! I didn't want to lose another one of you because you were unappreciated!

And yes, we DO know it when we see it. But like you said, those manners aren't always welcomed.

My question is, is there anything about a Femme that tells you one would welcome that part of the dance?

Well, that brings to mind a very funny story. I once dated a gal that was not an OFOS Femme. She very much enjoyed my type of OFOS. I would go get the car from the parking lot and pick her up at the door, even if it wasn't raining. She would allow me to open doors and pull out her chair and help her with her coat and many other things.
One day she was at a seminar for work. She had driven by herself. Later that evening she call to tell me what had happened after the seminar....
She left the seminar and was standing at the entrance....waiting for me to pick her up! She had forgotten she had drove herself!
For me, I don't necessarily look to see if a Femme is OFOS. It is more important to me that I be respected and allowed to be who I am and do the things I love to do...The manner in which that I show respect for a lady, Femme, Butch or purple people eater.
Admittedly though, it is much easier to be me with an OFOS Femme because they already know how i move in this world.

MrSunshine 05-09-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedance (Post 581448)
My question is, is there anything about a Femme that tells you one would welcome that part of the dance?

Yes. I have met femmes that say " you don't have to do that" or " I can get the door myself ". Then there's the femme that flashes a slight smile, drops her gaze and eyes just a bit then stands aside while I hold the door. So, yes.

easygoingfemme 10-05-2012 03:30 PM

Just popping in to swoon.
Carry on.

deb0670 10-05-2012 03:40 PM

It does a girls heart good knowing Chivalry is not dead, but still alive and well in the wonderful OFOS Family.. it really means a lot. OFOS P/people have away of standing out from the crowd, without even trying.

Leigh 10-05-2012 03:47 PM

OFOS is something in a partner that I've always been attracted to ~ that essence of a butch or FTM simply makes me weak in the knees *sigh*

Dance-with-me 10-05-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSunshine (Post 581755)
Yes. I have met femmes that say " you don't have to do that" or " I can get the door myself ". Then there's the femme that flashes a slight smile, drops her gaze and eyes just a bit then stands aside while I hold the door. So, yes.

Yes indeed.

Then again there are the butches who simply click the car door unlocked and walk to their side, walk through the door ahead of me and maybe just hold the door until I grab it, hand me my coat, etc. I'm perfectly capable of handling those things myself, and those are not deal breakers if, say, we're running errands to Lowes or something, but in a date? Most likely a deal breaker. And here's the thing: if it's done as a special, and it's clear that this is an act someone is putting on special for the date, that shows. It equally shows if it's as natural and automatic to the butch as breathing.

GraffitiBoi 02-09-2013 06:44 AM

Just thought I'd give this thread a little bump in case any of the many new people here are also OFOS.

I love being an OFOS butch/FTM. I get great enjoyment out of doing things for my femme that seem to have been long forgotten in today's world. When she smiles, I smile. When she's happy, I'm happy.

MaggieBluIze 02-09-2013 08:19 AM

I :heartbeat: this thread.
Thank you for bumping it.
:happyjump:
:waitinggirl:

CharmingLee 02-09-2013 08:45 AM

Just wanted to say Hi to everyone. I am old school butch for sure, being 48, I have had my fair share of experience dating and being in relationships with wonderful femmes. I enjoy being the gentleman, opening doors and spoiling my partner in general with flowers and small gifts. I actually got my nick name of "Charming" from the wonderful femmes I have encountered in my life. Here's to keeping the traditions alive. :beerbros:

little_ms_sunshyne 02-09-2013 09:13 AM

I absolutely love all the sweetness that comes with being OS. I am not always used to it, but when a kind butch offers to carry my bag, opens a door, offers me hys coat if it is cold...SWOOON! Gives me the butterflies in my tummy and my face burns pink! Must be the hopeless romantic in me...some days a girl just needs to be wooed (spelling?)

Anyhow, just thought I would stop by and share my appreciation :)

MaggieBluIze 02-09-2013 10:17 AM

OFOS has just always been a constant in my life, at some level ...
I never knew how much I :heartbeat: and truly "need" these things in my life,
until I did not have them while with someone.

I adore having my door opened for me.
Being put on the inside of the sidewalk.
Your hand on the small of my back.
Pulling out my chair and waiting to scoot it back in.
Getting the car door for me.
Newly experienced, even opening the car door to get out.
(I didn't know I would like that so very much :))
I will gladly tell you what I want to order, if you would like to tell the waiter for me.
Being dropped off at the door because it is cold or raining.
Waiting for you to get the car, for same reasons.
You insisting I wear your jacket since you know I must be chilly or getting damp from the rain,
even thought I did not say a word.

I :heartbeat: when you truly listen, pay attention to all that is said and done ...
Seeing proof of this with special little surprises that reflect that you truly heard me.
The sweet words of appreciation and sincerity whispered, texted or just make me weak in the knees.
Being touched when you walk past me, just cause you want to.

These are all things I miss so very much.
I now know I need these things from the person I am with.
I ache for them and do not feel complete without them.

Of course these are just a few of the things I appreciate and cherish.
Most likely, though out the day, things will trickle into my mind of what I forgot or missed.
These are just forefront in my mind.

Thank you for still carrying on these OFOS ways that are so very cherished, adored and needed ...
At least, in this femmes life.

I did not realize how very long this turned out to be ...
Guess it's something I feel strongly about and miss so very much!! :blush:


Heavenleahangel 02-09-2013 10:46 AM

Being a southern girl from Georgia, I am OFOS and absolutely love all aspects of being with someone who is OFOS and knows how to treat a lady/woman. I will post more of my thoughts on this later, but am glad this thread is back up and posting again!

Dance-with-me 02-11-2013 09:59 PM

It doesn't get much better than what I've found.

A huge smile and even an occasional "thank you" every time I wait for a moment so that she can get the door or my car door for me, and yet with a deep and sincere enthusiasm for my strength and independence.

Gently pointing out that clearly no one before her knew how to help me on with my coat, as I always awkwardly reached up at shoulder height instead of holding my arms down and back so that she can easily slip my coat onto them.

So many little things - the touches on my back as we walk, the way she leads me while dancing (not just that she leads, but the little things that make it a true OF butch style and not just a set of practiced steps and gestures), putting her jacket around my shoulders even though she is from year-round warmth and hates the cold.

Buying me a bunch of little gifts for our first Valentine's day that reflected so very well just how much she'd been paying close attention to who I really am and not just her idea of what a femme should want - including a bucket tool caddy and a ultrasonic pest repellant. (and yes, those were GREAT gifts for me! But definitely not the only ones.)

And all these things and more are just as natural to her as breathing. I think I've met my match.

Finn 02-22-2013 09:37 PM

Hello Everyone;
I haven't been here in ages so thought I'd stop by and leave a little Hello for you a/ALL *S* Hope everyone is warm and safe. We are expecting more snow here tomorrow,, supposed to get around a foot!! on top of the foot we just got !! lol,, oh well,, spring and summer will be here soon enough.. Hope everyone has a great weekend..

:byebye:

~ocean 02-27-2013 05:13 PM

OFOS butch's & femmes ~ we all know it's about "The Dance" ,as well as the seduction on both parts ~ the appreciation on the butch's part when hys ever sooooo gratefull for her efforts of seduction ~ she becomes complacent of hys desires , hys love ~ being gratefull of hys recognition as "hys" ~ she honors hys strength to lead her ~ hy melts by her comfort ~ her subtle way of making a home for them ~ unity ~

meridiantoo 03-14-2013 11:31 AM

Just found this thread....subscribing now.

:clover:

tessie 05-31-2013 04:34 PM

Hey Bump! :)

SaltyButch 06-01-2013 03:25 PM

So I just want to bump this thread and ask this question.

What is one of the most romantic things someone has done for you as part of the dance?

Miss Scarlett 06-01-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyButch (Post 806511)
What is one of the most romantic things someone has done for you as part of the dance?

Hy surprised me by showing up at my office just to kiss me...that's all...hy kissed me then drove home...btw - it was a 4 hour round trip for hym to do this...

I wasn't dating this next person, we were just the very closest of friends (in fact so close that most people thought we were a couple), but they have to be the sweetest things ever and for that reason I consider them romantic...Two years ago I was "abducted" for a mystery trip for my 52nd birthday. I didn't have a clue where we were going until we crossed over into Tennessee. We stopped to purchase apples then went on to a gallery (the real destination) where my friend purchased a print for me I'd wistfully mentioned in passing months before and hy'd apparently "filed away." (This was a limited edition and the odds of finding it were pretty slim.) We had a few other "adventures" before heading home, including the Tail of the Dragon - another thing I'd mentioned in passing. It was the most amazing day and I felt so special...just like a princess! A few days before (on my actual birthday) hy arranged a dinner with friends complete with surprise cake and musical candle. It was the first time anyone ever made a big fuss over my birthday. The other thing hy did was at Christmas that same year. I received a gift that was impossible to find. Around the same time that I mentioned the print I also mentioned that a "holy grail" for me was a signed, first edition of a certain book. Hys comment at the time was that it surely could not exist but hy found it and I was speechless.



tessie 06-28-2013 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltyButch (Post 806511)
So I just want to bump this thread and ask this question.

What is one of the most romantic things someone has done for you as part of the dance?

Once my wonderful Mr brought me home 8 dozen of roses, various colors so beautiful. One dozen was for my Mother who is passed over. One for Hys Mother also passed over. This was on Valentine's day this year. Hy does things like that all of the time. Brings me girly gifts constantly. Plus all of the little personal things each and every day! :)

*Anya* 06-28-2013 07:07 AM

The most romantic thing
 
I had only dated my butch for a couple of months this past year when Christmas arrived.

It is not a LDR and from the very beginning, I saw her several times a week.

She handed me a beautifully wrapped, red velvet pouch. I was afraid to open it.

She said: "From the moment that I saw you, I fell for you. You deserve these. I wanted to see yours ears sparkle, because you do".

The pouch contained diamond earrings. So beautiful.

I had never had any "real" jewelry before.

They are very meaningful to me because of her verbalized sentiment, not because they are real.

If she had said what she did to me and had given me cubic zirconia's; it would have meant just as much to me because of what she said.

Her gift was from her heart.

We will be together 8 months next week.

PS: She also sent two dozen red roses which were delivered at my job on Valentines Day. Kind of embarrassing to walk them back to my office but it gave me the opportunity to come out at work multiple times, with several people, very easily: "Oh, beautiful flowers, did your husband send them?"

"No, my girlfriend".

"Oh".

:stillheart:

LucyGirl 07-06-2013 05:07 PM

waiting for a butch to get me enough to really take my breath away in that way way...

LucyGirl 07-06-2013 05:09 PM

...don't get me wrong, the dance is always fun.

snow white 07-18-2013 03:17 PM

Hello!

I'm new, so I am still very much finding my way around the site but I thought I'd pop by here and say "hi" as you all seem very nice.

I have still to make my first 30 posts and cannot start a new thread yet, so I was looking for places where I could make relevant posts to build up my number without just posting for the sake of it....if that makes sense?? : )

Anyway, I found this thread and thought it might be relevant to me. I'm not really sure...

Ok...here goes! I'm straight. Or, at least I have been my entire life. However, in the last couple of weeks I have discovered that I am *very* attracted to Butch lesbians and now I'm wondering what that means...(I think particularly Stone Butches??)

I am not only straight, I am submissive and am fairly familiar with the BDSM community, so I was wondering if my submissiveness may be muddying the waters a little...? I honestly don't know, actually, and am finding all of this very confusing and would really like some help figuring it all out. If anyone is willing to discuss this with me further I'd really appreciate it : ) Oh, and I'm in the UK if that's relevant.

I see that someone in this thread identified themselves as an "innocent sub or femme" (or something similar?), and although I didn't think to use this to describe how I identify, I am going to appropriate it now (thanks to whomever it was!). I grew up with fairy tales and identified very strongly with the hyper-feminine innocence and beauty, grace and gentleness of the princesses in these stories, and have never shaken that off. I love chivalry and mourn it's loss in this busy, modern world. I am still awaiting my Knight in Shining Armour to come and rescue me, but, until now, I had never considered that their gender could be anything other than male...

Please could some kind person help me to figure out what's going on? Thank you! : )

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place, btw, and pls feel free to move it! : )

Lovely to meet you all and have a great evening!

Snow White x

snow white 07-20-2013 02:04 PM

Am I allowed to bump this?

Sweet Bliss 07-20-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by snow white (Post 824521)
Am I allowed to bump this?

Of course you may! I like to bump too! :hangloose:

Jess 11-05-2014 01:23 AM

Because bumping is fun...
 
and because I miss this discussion... bump...

:cigar2:

sultrybrunette50 11-05-2014 01:43 PM

Im Old School Ultra Femme..I
Just Joined and I found this thread..I will Deff be back later...Wink...

sultrybrunette50 11-05-2014 02:10 PM

One of the most romantic thing someone I was with surprised me with was as follows...She told me in advance that on a certain night we were going to Fly to a tropical Island so start packing and I packed my sexy heels and summer day and evening wear not knowing the reason for this I was so excited..A week later we flew into San Juan P.R, the sun was shining and the smell of all the wonderful tropical scents surrounded me..We checked in to a beautiful Suite that was filled with Roses every where, there was wine and champagne,we had a glass of wine and all of a sudden she tooky hand and walked me to the bedroom and the rest is history...several he's later before we showered she got down on one knee and proposed with the most beautiful ring....that was 15 yrs ago ...we broke up 5 yes later..anyway that was so romantic...

~ocean 11-05-2014 02:29 PM

hi sultry ~ yes I agree that was very romantic :) ~ welcome to the planet ~ join us in chat sometime ~ and we usually have a coffee crowd in the mornings as well :)

sultrybrunette50 11-05-2014 04:28 PM

Hello to all...I'm a new on here..I'm a stone femme..I love the Butch Femme Dynamics and wouldn't have it any other way!!

Jess 11-05-2014 04:36 PM

romance is often so subtle...
 
most often it is not in grand gestures but in small things...

like the way she remembered tiny details of things I thought only I would notice... things that were important to me became important to her and that, my friends, is not only romantic, but downright sexy...

yes, planned out "events" or "gifts" are romantic without a doubt, but at least for me, making the everyday special is what keeps romance alive for the long haul (f)

:cigar2:

Firedance 11-13-2014 10:02 PM

The secret to happiness...


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