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Darbonaire 05-05-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyRieinAL (Post 578291)
I never thought I'd find myself in a place like this again - ten years ago I fell in love with a wonderful man, a gentleman, a fabulous lover (the best ever) male or female - I was married to a bio-male (sorry if the terms I use are not correct and I don't mind being corrected) for five years - the next 22 I spent with a butch, and for a few short years I had two relationships with with one butch and one person who ID as transman and preferred female pronouns because it made life easier for hym- and then I met my first FTM - to I liked him, I liked him a lot, but I wasn't sure that I could allow myself to fall in love with him - he made me see and feel like I was really home when I was in his arms - our transition was an amazing one - he was male - and he snagged me - he swept me off my feet - he spanked my buttocks and made me love it <wink> his level of intelligence and his sense of humor was off the charts and I thought this was the grandest relationship there was ever created on earth - and time pivoted - and then as life does, we changed for so many different reasons - and eventually it was time for both of us to move on - he moved several states away - and I couldn't.
I'm telling you, mark my words, if one of you femmes out there has the chance to meet him - when you are introduced to him, you will find out exactly what I'm talking about.
Because of him, I am hoping that in my new journey of being single I will be lead into the arms of an FTM who wants to co-create a new journey in joy and love - and maybe it will be forever - a femme can dream.

I still love you......I miss you....& I would love "us" again.......thank you for sharing this ! ***

Nadeest 05-05-2012 10:01 AM

The first person that I went out with, after I started transition was an FTM. He was so gentle and caring with me that it was amazing. I was very terrified when it came to sex, and he let me proceed at my own pace, to find out what worked for me, now that I had begun transition. Everything had changed for me, and he understood that. Since then, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for FTM's and would date them a lot quicker then I would a cis-male.

rande 05-05-2012 02:10 PM

I am an FTM/Stone....if one has to be in a box that's where I'd stand.
Personally I am highly attracted to the Femme energy, but that's just me.

We're all entitled to love who we want to love for crying out loud. The trick is to stop lying to ourselves, get out there on that dance floor and live.

Gender is a fluid thing...there are genders within genders, if you want to split hairs. To say one thing is wrong is to not understand the very nature of what gender identification and expression are all about.

It's highly personal...very individualistic....customized, if you will, to each person.

Just because I am deeply attracted to Femmes doesn't mean that's the only way for others to live. Heck no.

Let's celebrate love, not limits.

Great forum, great Planet. Thanks for being here!

morningstar55 05-05-2012 02:41 PM

im single..... i never dated someone whom is FTM..
have had relationships and some dates whom id as stone..
im not even sure if Im even femme enough for some.. i mean i am a lady/girl/femme even though my job is not very lady like.. but i do see a lot of very femine women out there whom drive them big rigs.
im just a girl next door kinda girl. :)
some say i just hadnt met the right one yet......... well crap im 57 already.
im not holding my breath. i am lonely .. but i know im not desperate either.
maybe im doing something wrong.
anyways............. this is a interesting thread.
will subscribe........ annnnd guess i need to get to work...
have a awsome day/ weekend , everyone.

morningstar55 05-06-2012 06:38 AM

good morning FATF dwellers and peekers

i been reading some postings here yesterday and well just can not understand this............
2 people...... doesnt matter if your str8/ftm/mtf/butch femme or what ever.
when a couple has so much love for each other... why can not they make it work???
doesnt love conquer all??? it is soo hard to find true love , a deep love and when you do find it and its mutual , stick with it... its like that song.. if you see a chance take it.. find romance embrace it?? think thats how it goees.. lol its a old Steve Winwood song... heh

Darbonaire n LadyRieinAL life is way way to short.... and in our age group, its soo soo very hard to find someone ... must be something to work out to keep ya'll together. I hate seeing such loving couples fall apart when it could of been prevented. I guess i am a strong believer in working on a relationship when its worth saving.
ya know grandma n grandpa didnt get to there 50th wedding anniversary on a bed of roses, im sure there were some thorns somewhere along the way.
anyways. just my thoughts this morning.... ha and i havnt had my coffee yet.. lol


im heading to Ithaca and then to detroit today.
have a great day everyone. :)

Leigh 05-07-2012 08:01 AM

Just came in to say good morning to everyone :)

Darbonaire 05-08-2012 03:19 PM

One day at a time....
 
Treated myself to a wonderful massage today....wow, maybe I should date a massage therapist?.....LOL......I'm trying my best to stay positive, fill my days with new friends & new experiences.....thank God for my cat......lol......she's my baby girl & has gotten me through a LOT !

I just wanted to stop in & say hello & I wish everyone a super evening & a wonderful tomorrow !

Jonathan

Teddybear 05-08-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Darbonaire (Post 581070)
Treated myself to a wonderful massage today....wow, maybe I should date a massage therapist?.....LOL......I'm trying my best to stay positive, fill my days with new friends & new experiences.....thank God for my cat......lol......she's my baby girl & has gotten me through a LOT !

I just wanted to stop in & say hello & I wish everyone a super evening & a wonderful tomorrow !

Jonathan


my cat has gotten me through a lot also now if i could get him to stop snoring at nite


hello to all the ladies and gents on the thread

Quintease 05-08-2012 05:59 PM

My husband was always into feminine, straight, bi or gay. It makes no difference to him who I fancy, provided he's quite high on the list.

I think ten years back girls like me were just too lesbian to date FTM's, whereas now we're all part of the same community. For the boys, I guess it's a lot safer dating a lesbian once you look like a man. For the girls, I guess we get the authentically queer experience, with someone who's simultaneously breaking as well as maintaining binaries ... or perhaps that's just my take on it all.

It did surprise me that I could fancy the pants off a man, it didn't surprise him that he could fancy me. He led me astray, clearly!

Leigh 05-13-2012 10:02 PM

Just came in to spread my love around for all the amazing guys here :)

TenderKnight 05-13-2012 11:49 PM

Ohhh.. Hello all :) I'm FTM and am attracted to femmes.. I guess I might belong in this thread :p *waves to everyone*

Leigh 05-13-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TenderKnight
Ohhh.. Hello all :) I'm FTM and am attracted to femmes.. I guess I might belong in this thread :p *waves to everyone*


lol glad you could join us, make yourself at home :D

TenderKnight 05-13-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by veryfemme (Post 491290)
I have noticed that many of FTM friends date primarily butch women or FTM and I wanted to know how many FTMs are attracted to femme women? Is there a reason why you are attracted to femmes and are you also attracted to butch women or other FTM as well?

Guess I could start off with responding to the original poster :p

I consider myself to be pansexual.. Meaning that I am attracted to the person rather then thier gender.. that being said.. For me personally, I tend to have fun and play with guys and settle down and date women.. I am also poly, so this has worked well for me in my personal life :) Currently I am "single" meaning that I do have some very close intimate friends and playmates, but I am not dating anyone nor am I in a relationship with anyone..

That is just my thoughts on the original post :)

TenderKnight 05-13-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Leigh (Post 584490)
lol glad you could join us, make yourself at home :D

Well thank you :)

Leigh 05-13-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TenderKnight
Well thank you :)

*smiles* Your very welcome :)

rande 05-15-2012 09:45 AM

Don't give up!
You're plenty feminine! Don't you dare think otherwise!
Driving a truck, far out! Nothing wrong with that!
Hell! Turns me right the heck on!

I like it when people are who they want to be, regardless of stereotyping and labeling.
There is someone out there for you. Hang in there.
Love's a funny thing, it sneaks up on you lots of times right after you've given up...then WHAMMO!

So don't worry...love is coming.
You don't have to change a thing...just be there for it.

You're perfect, just the way you are.

Julien 05-15-2012 05:24 PM

I thought I would peek around the curtain and say hello. :bath:I am looking for a welcoming place to hang my hat. Good evening one and all.:formalbow:

Leigh 05-15-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rande
Don't give up!
You're plenty feminine! Don't you dare think otherwise!
Driving a truck, far out! Nothing wrong with that!
Hell! Turns me right the heck on!

I like it when people are who they want to be, regardless of stereotyping and labeling.
There is someone out there for you. Hang in there.
Love's a funny thing, it sneaks up on you lots of times right after you've given up...then WHAMMO!

So don't worry...love is coming.
You don't have to change a thing...just be there for it.

You're perfect, just the way you are.

Sometimes we need to be reminded of these things and I thank you for posting this for us :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julien
I thought I would peek around the curtain and say hello. :bath:I am looking for a welcoming place to hang my hat. Good evening one and all.:formalbow:

Welcome to the thread Julien, make yourself at home ~ visit anytime you like :)

Kent 07-07-2012 04:12 PM

Just a little bump...

Bad_boi 07-28-2012 03:47 PM

Femmes are amazing.

SoberBoi 07-29-2012 01:07 AM

Self-perception
 
I am very new in transition (about 9 months T)...therefore I still have a lot of the "how do they look at me" paranoia that newbies suffer from.

I avoid lesbians and straight females now because I am pre-op and have innate fears that they "won't get it" and mis-gender me.

The more I transition and get surgery, I will probably get over it.

I asked the support staff if they could change my userid to SoberGuy or at least SoberBoy because I feel uncomfortable dysphorically with my old member name. :(

Nadeest 07-29-2012 06:44 AM

First off, as someone that has been in transition for a while now, give things time, please. Certainly you are going to be misgendered from time to time. That sort of thing happens, but it will tend to happen less and less as time goes on, in my experience.

Secondly, if you are attracted to femmes, why avoid us? If you find someone that you like, let her know what is going on. If she is willing to be a part of your life, she will make an effort to understand, and figure things out.

I have found, over the years, that if you don't insist on what your gender is, sooner or later, as people get to know you, they will figure it out. Just give them time, and if they are not prejudiced, they will come to accept you as a male.

Hang in there! I know that it gets rough, especially at the start of transition.

DapperButch 07-29-2012 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SoberBoi (Post 622769)
I am very new in transition (about 9 months T)...therefore I still have a lot of the "how do they look at me" paranoia that newbies suffer from.

I avoid lesbians and straight females now because I am pre-op and have innate fears that they "won't get it" and mis-gender me.

The more I transition and get surgery, I will probably get over it.

I asked the support staff if they could change my userid to SoberGuy or at least SoberBoy because I feel uncomfortable dysphorically with my old member name. :(

I didn't see your request for a name change in the name change thread. You will probably get a quicker response there than PM.

http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...?t=519&page=38

theoddz 07-29-2012 07:39 AM

Hey there guy, and welcome to our community!! :clap:

I couldn't resist sticking my 2 cents worth in here about "how do they look at me". I began transition almost 6 years ago and, believe it or not, things are still in transition for me, on some levels. I think it is a continuing process for a lot of us, particularly me, as I was in my mid 40's when I started T and had my top surgery. I'd been living in a "stranger's" skin all my life, up until then, and it's taken all this time to .....well..... let my body change with the T (which has energizing and antidepressant properties, btw), have the surgery, get the name changed legally, and then finally, the gender marker on the (Florida, of ALL places) birth certificate. That, alone, takes time.

The other thing I want to say to you is that these physical changes are going to take time on quite a few levels, and that is probably a good thing.....now that I'm looking at a lot of what I went through, in retrospect. You have to understand something about "other people", and this is something that my father (also my mentor and friend) told me when I asked him about what other people would think of me. He told me that worrying about what other people thought, or would think, about things in my life, including this transition, was way off base. He said that most all people in life don't worry about others in the sense that we think they do. They're worried about their own problems. It'd surprise you to find out just how little other people worry about the things you do, unless it directly affects them, and that is a whooooole lot less than you think!!!! If you think about it right now, at this second, the proof of that fact is right in front of you. YOU are the one worried about it. Let me tell you something I found out by going through this myself........Other people are going to be as comfortable with you as you are with yourself. The discomfort you might be feeling right now is what we all go through. Things like your body issues and even your self-confidence are going to evolve very nicely and you're going to be very pleased with this when you come out on the other side of the tunnel. It's a process, which means that it goes step by (sometimes painfully slow) step. But remember......XY males don't get through puberty overnight, either, and this is what you're going through. It's a second puberty, but now you're supposed to be "older and wiser".

Now, for the Femme question. As you have seen from the replies you've gotten in this thread, there ARE quite a few of these lovely Ladies who just adore us transguys!!! I don't think you're going to ever have to worry about finding a partner/girlfriend/wife, even after you transition. I want to say something else here, however, and please, just take it into consideration. I'm not trying to tell you what to think, or even how to think. I just want to give you something to roll around in your mind. Some guys feel this way. I did. Others feel differently. I don't know how you'll feel about it, so take it for what it's worth.

Transition can be an extreme "ME space". It can be frustrating, exhilarating, freeing, depressing, liberating, joyful and sometimes very, very painful. Most of your emotional and mental energy is going to have to be directed inward. This is as it should be!!! You're going to have to figure out who you are. Simple statement, eh?? It's what I said. Who. You. Are. Do you have any idea, at this moment in time, what kind of man you are inside?? Do you know what kind of man you need to be in order to find peace in yourself?? Do know how far you want to take your body through transition?? That can change, you know. Intense stuff, eh?? Well, a relationship takes work, too. It takes both people working at it, equally hard. She's going to require your attentions and you're going to need her to push some of that aside while you work on you. Can you do both at the same time?? Most can't, you know, and it's a known statistic that many, if not most, relationships don't survive transition. She may have to do a transition of her own, too, you know, because this is going to affect her. There are all kinds of Ladies/Femmes/other masculine and feminine ID's here who just love, love LOVE us transguys and have had successful relationships before with some of us, sometimes in all phases of transition. I, myself, have a wonderful Lady who has been by my side through the entire process, but she's also had "prior experience" and kinda knew what she was in for!!! So far, we're hanging in there and I think the roughest part is over and we're on the easy side of that hill now. So, the question is.....do you bring someone down this rocky, perilous road with you, or do you wait until you have traveled most of that road yourself, first?? Something to think about, my friend.

Okay, so you can tell me that this is none of my business, and it's not, really. Transition is different for all of us and only you know what your life is like now, and what you may be dealing with later. I'm just sticking my nose in here and giving you some rather personal points to ponder. That's all it is. There are many, many good women here, and in the world, who will love and accept you for exactly who you are. That'll never be the problem. The biggest thing you need to do now is to turn your mind and emotions inward and work on yourself and getting through this. If you're no good for yourself, then you won't be good for anyone else, either.

You have a community of support and acceptance here, Guy. Sometimes we're going to tell you what you don't want to hear, but we all support you, and we understand. You might also be interested in some of the threads in the "Trans Zone". There's a ton of information and posts there about transition and other issues that affect us transfolk. Good luck to you and feel free to drop me a PM anytime.

~Theo~ :bouquet:

alphadaddy 07-30-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by veryfemme (Post 491303)
I really couldnt tell you but I have been turned away for being too girly and its hard and I hate it

Is there really such a thing...i can't even imagine

FtMGuy 07-30-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ladyface (Post 510688)
Hi Softbutch4U, it's true, femmes who like FTMs do exist. I have to say it seems to me that a lot of FTMs do date other FTMs so it's always reassuring to me as a femme to hear that there are FTMs who still like the b/f dynamic. Cause sometimes y'all seem elusive like super sexy unicorns. :smelling-flower:

I love it!! super sexy unicorns!!
I am searching high and low for the perfect femme for me! I am not quite ready for a relationship yet but dating would be nice, just dont seem to be any femmes around where I live that date a guy like me but it could happen, BFP Reunion here I come!!

Nadeest 07-31-2012 07:49 AM

"...I began transition almost 6 years ago and, believe it or not, things are still in transition for me, on some levels. I think it is a continuing process for a lot of us, particularly me, as I was in my mid 40's when I started T and had my top surgery...." theodzz


I think theodzz is right. We don't ever really finish transitioning, in a lot of ways. Mind you, our second puberty takes a lot less time to go thru, mentally, then our first one, but still. We just don't, and probably never will have the same amount of emotional and social experience that other people of our age and gender have. Mind you, we grow up fast, but still, I don't think that we ever fully grow up. We are just starting from too far behind to be able to catch up fully, especially those of us who start transition in our later years.

ManOMan 08-21-2012 05:48 PM

For Me
I'm attracted to the feminine end of the spectrum. Please note I did not say female. I have found some ftm and 'cis' males to be very attractive. They are ones that are of the feminine persuasion, but I haven't actually been with a 'male' person in many, many, many years (oy).

I am also one of those guys that can't tell when a woman is hitting on me, I've been with female friends that have told me that women were flirting with me and I've been completely clueless. (Sigh)

For the 'old fashion' femmes here that don't want to make the first move: please don't assume that just because I haven't hit on you that it's because I don't like you. It's way more likely that I'm shy and clueless, BUT once I get the hint, it's on like donkey kong!

Duchess 08-25-2012 08:09 PM

Just dropping by to say hi. (f)

Tony 08-29-2012 09:06 AM

Ladies.....
 
Bumpin' the thread

Tony 08-29-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyRieinAL (Post 578291)
I never thought I'd find myself in a place like this again - ten years ago I fell in love with a wonderful man, a gentleman, a fabulous lover (the best ever) male or female - I was married to a bio-male (sorry if the terms I use are not correct and I don't mind being corrected) for five years - the next 22 I spent with a butch, and for a few short years I had two relationships with with one butch and one person who ID as transman and preferred female pronouns because it made life easier for hym- and then I met my first FTM - to I liked him, I liked him a lot, but I wasn't sure that I could allow myself to fall in love with him - he made me see and feel like I was really home when I was in his arms - our transition was an amazing one - he was male - and he snagged me - he swept me off my feet - he spanked my buttocks and made me love it <wink> his level of intelligence and his sense of humor was off the charts and I thought this was the grandest relationship there was ever created on earth - and time pivoted - and then as life does, we changed for so many different reasons - and eventually it was time for both of us to move on - he moved several states away - and I couldn't.
I'm telling you, mark my words, if one of you femmes out there has the chance to meet him - when you are introduced to him, you will find out exactly what I'm talking about.
Because of him, I am hoping that in my new journey of being single I will be lead into the arms of an FTM who wants to co-create a new journey in joy and love - and maybe it will be forever - a femme can dream.

This was so beautifully stated. Your emotions jumped off the page. Sounds like you were both very lucky to have found each other. I hope you find that again. Thanks for baring your heart/soul/emotions with that experience.

Duchess 08-29-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by veryfemme (Post 491303)
I really couldnt tell you but I have been turned away for being too girly and its hard and I hate it

I can totally relate!!:|

Leigh 08-29-2012 11:37 PM

Just came in to say hi to everyone :)

morningstar55 08-30-2012 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOMan (Post 636543)
For Me
I'm attracted to the feminine end of the spectrum. Please note I did not say female. I have found some ftm and 'cis' males to be very attractive. They are ones that are of the feminine persuasion, but I haven't actually been with a 'male' person in many, many, many years (oy).

I am also one of those guys that can't tell when a woman is hitting on me, I've been with female friends that have told me that women were flirting with me and I've been completely clueless. (Sigh)

For the 'old fashion' femmes here that don't want to make the first move: please don't assume that just because I haven't hit on you that it's because I don't like you. It's way more likely that I'm shy and clueless, BUT once I get the hint, it's on like donkey kong!


Hmmm ..... well I think u have a cute banana.. :)

Hominid 09-05-2012 05:20 PM

Hey -
 
Hello All -

New guy here - into "femmes" with a broad definition of what that means. Women who identify as women, girly, tomboyish - more important is intelligence, living a life of meaning, good spelling ("your" when one means "you're" is driving me batshit) and I like trim to curvy women. I also am not so into the "princess" thing, although my relationships always end up being Daddy/girl on some level, and I usually end up pussy whipped if I am well-loved.

Nice to read through the posts and "meet" everyone.

Leigh 09-05-2012 05:47 PM

Welcome to the Planet Hominid, feel free to say hi sometime :)

GraffitiBoi 01-15-2013 12:58 AM

Just dropping in to say hi and bump this thread.

I love me some Femmes!

Jaques 01-15-2013 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi (Post 730372)
Just dropping in to say hi and bump this thread.

I love me some Femmes!

...........Hi GB, thread bumped - i have always loved feminine women, gay, straight, wotever............i often admire men/butches/transguys but never attracted to them sexually. However, i do know that many transguys are gay but then as we have said many times, sexuality and gender are two different things

Bèsame* 07-13-2013 07:38 AM

Good morning! And happy summer to all the guys!
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ScandalAndy 08-27-2013 06:57 AM

Autumn is fast approaching!! This femme is definitely looking forward to that time of year when the masculine folks get all outdoorsy with jeans and sweaters.

I just wanted to say that this thread has done me a world of good today. Thank you all for restoring my faith that there are still some folks who are genuinely interested in femmes as romantic partners.


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