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Jude 09-10-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lipstixgal (Post 189037)
I'm thinking about moving to Florida because don't want to be in winter anymore...I think I would like the hot weather in the summer its cold to me here today in NJ!!

Cold today in NJ? It's 70 degrees! Wait until it's in the teen and we get 3 feet of snow and then you get to complain. Only thing I don't like about fall is what comes after. Maybe I'm just too skinny and thin blooded, but freezing cold is downright painful. The only positive thing I can think of about winter is benig able to sleep under a heavy down comforter.
Have you looked at any properties in Florida?

BellaOctober1 09-10-2010 03:12 PM

Kansas City Fall
 
Stopping in to say Howdy. It's been a WHILE! Kansas City is just now showing the signs of Fall and I welcome it. The heat was just a bit much.
Hope you all have a great weekend..
(f)

lipstixgal 09-10-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jude (Post 189059)
Cold today in NJ? It's 70 degrees! Wait until it's in the teen and we get 3 feet of snow and then you get to complain. Only thing I don't like about fall is what comes after. Maybe I'm just too skinny and thin blooded, but freezing cold is downright painful. The only positive thing I can think of about winter is benig able to sleep under a heavy down comforter.
Have you looked at any properties in Florida?

Yes I'm cold to me 70 is cold I have firbromyalgia and it affects me in my muscles when it gets codl that is one of the reasons I want to move away and I have looked online but have yet to get there. I'm a student and have to finish my internship first...I hope that answers all of your questions!!

Jet 09-10-2010 04:10 PM

Flyin by
have a good one all

naturlover_52 09-10-2010 05:05 PM

dealing w/ cold
 
I have osteoarthritis in most of my joints bit More so lately in my shoulders and My degenerating disk....I can empathize w/you Lipstix because of dealing w/ Pain. I lived IN alaska for about 7 years and that was a major reason for leaving...MY knees/back couldn;t take the cold anymore. I would like to live in a milder climate because of the fact I am a large woman and SUMMERS in the East San Gabriel Valley in SO. Cal get a BIT warm and 100+* temps at my size are HARD to handle

sooo understand

waxnrope 09-10-2010 06:45 PM

It was about 80 today in Oakland. My ideal temp is about 68. I have heat intolerance. Summers, I want to move to Alaska.
Hope you all have a great weekend. Anyone doing something fun and/or interesting? I'm leaving in a few to see the film, Mao's Last Dancer.

lipstixgal 09-10-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by naturlover_52 (Post 189142)
I have osteoarthritis in most of my joints bit More so lately in my shoulders and My degenerating disk....I can empathize w/you Lipstix because of dealing w/ Pain. I lived IN alaska for about 7 years and that was a major reason for leaving...MY knees/back couldn;t take the cold anymore. I would like to live in a milder climate because of the fact I am a large woman and SUMMERS in the East San Gabriel Valley in SO. Cal get a BIT warm and 100+* temps at my size are HARD to handle

sooo understand

Thank you for understanding its too damn cold here in the winter in NJ that's one of the reasons for moving to a warmer climate, so its hot in Cali I didn't know that, I'm not small either but dieting so that helps when I follow it!!

naturlover_52 09-10-2010 07:38 PM

daling w/ tempuratures
 
I am North west of Disneyland and about 30 miles EAST of Los Angeles....and a bit west of Riverside. OUT there it gets HOT. Where I am it just gets rather warm....IT can get up to about 107-115* here in the HOT months. That is part of the reason I am wanting to move say to some place Like San Jose or Eugene Oregon. I am about 285-290 lbs...SO I guess I am a big lady....

Best of luck in your search for a comfy place to live Temp wise

morningstar55 09-10-2010 07:50 PM

hot and cold....... hmm thought maybe ya'll were talking menopause.. LOL
i was born and raised in Buffalo Neww yawkk.. and thats snow country...lol
then moved to Texas in 79.. for 17 yrs.. i got use to the heat. stayed inside .. hung out by the pool... now im back in NY..
i miss the south a lot... love it there.... the heat in the summer well.... ya just learn to deal wth it if its where you really want to be.

oh btw..... heyy ya Lofters.. lol
i have landed in WaterLoooo Iowa...... yeha.
gonna watch some tv to fall asleep by.. lol

morningstar55 09-10-2010 07:53 PM

tonight i had a 43 yr old tell me she dont date anyone over 50 maybe 53 .. cuz they can be boring......... omg.. feel a lil insulted.. geeshh....

Jude 09-10-2010 08:18 PM

Boring over 50! Rubbish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by morningstar55 (Post 189215)
tonight i had a 43 yr old tell me she dont date anyone over 50 maybe 53 .. cuz they can be boring......... omg.. feel a lil insulted.. geeshh....


Anybody under 50 is still growing up. There are a wealth of life experiences they have yet to discover. The thought of dating someone significantly younger doesn't appeal at all. The wine becomes more fragrant and delicious with age.

iamkeri1 09-10-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morningstar55 (Post 189215)
tonight i had a 43 yr old tell me she dont date anyone over 50 maybe 53 .. cuz they can be boring......... omg.. feel a lil insulted.. geeshh....

Lord god almighty!!! I never found you to be boring, MStar - feisty maybe, but not boring. Her loss is all I can say@
Smooches,
Keri

iamkeri1 09-10-2010 09:32 PM

Hey Jude (Love saying that - that is one of my all time favorite songs)
Summers are pretty hot here in Florida. I have a pretty high resistance to heat, but some days are just burning up. It doesn't cool off much at night either. To be honest, I have only spent one full summer here. I still have a house in Michigan which I have never been able to sell due to the economy there, so I spend around 8 weeks there every summer. In my area of Florida (about 39 miles south of Orlando), August and September are the two hottest months, The nights start to cool off in early October, and really the nights still go down at least to the low seventies until early June, and then its just like someone filpped a switch and the nights get hot too. Everything is on AC of course, and I have a pool, which I love.

To find out how gay life and the attitude toward queerfolk are in FL I would suggest stopping in to the FLorida thread. I was married to an FTM for the first few years I lived here, I was alone for six years after his death, and the guy I just broke up with was FTM also. The laws here are bad, but if the court decision in Cali holds up through the federal courts, we may see and end to all discriminatory laws here soon. I have just started to stick my toes back in to gay waters, you might say. I am perceived as straight by almost everyone in my life.

Also, I think your house swapping idea is a good one. I'd love to spend a week in DC.
Smooches,
Keri




Quote:

Originally Posted by Jude (Post 188979)
Keri.
How do you generally feel about living in FL? At least once a year (in the winter) I have a rush of "why aren't I in Florida?", which tends to dissipate by Spring. Now I"m kinda thinking of buying a small condo in FL just for the winters....prices being so reasonable right now.

What I'd love to hear from you is how you manag to survive the blazing hot, humid summers. Do you tend to hide out in an A/C house and never venture out before dark and cooler temperatures?

I used to go to Florida every summer with my kids to visit my mom in Sarasota and we all loved it -- except for the miserable heat.

How is it for gay people in Florida generally? It's a very conservative state.

Whatever you'd care to share would be super and deeply appreciated.
Jude in Wash DC


morningstar55 09-11-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamkeri1 (Post 189252)
Lord god almighty!!! I never found you to be boring, MStar - feisty maybe, but not boring. Her loss is all I can say@
Smooches,
Keri

fiesty??? LMao..... ty i think
her loss.. welll.. she isnt even my type.... or me hers..... but yet she was asking me dating type ?? said i was to old for her..
i then asked...... ahhh to old for friendship?? then she claims in big letters.... she is looking for a WIFE!! ..... geeshh..... well rnt we all. lol
she is a truck driver and not very butch.. and i told her i enjoy meeting other female truckers out here .. to chit chat with ... cuz there r to many men truckers and well..... anyways.

GOOooooooooood Morning LOFTERS!!

Luckydwg07 09-11-2010 10:36 AM

temperature control
 
Hello Lofters. I have to say Key West. I've been alot of places and its hard to get personalized season temps all year long. My sister lives in Arkansas. Fayetteville,Eureka Springs area. She loves it! Went to visit her this August wasn't bad and I don't do well in heat . check it out nice area and getting busy. Rehoboth beach,De is not too bad either when it comes to coastal temp.but alas it did get alot of snow dumped on them last winter but the temps weren't too bitter. Good Luck in your search
Have a great weekend!

morningstar55 09-11-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamkeri1 (Post 189277)
Hey Jude (Love saying that - that is one of my all time favorite songs)
Summers are pretty hot here in Florida. I have a pretty high resistance to heat, but some days are just burning up. It doesn't cool off much at night either. To be honest, I have only spent one full summer here. I still have a house in Michigan which I have never been able to sell due to the economy there, so I spend around 8 weeks there every summer. In my area of Florida (about 39 miles south of Orlando), August and September are the two hottest months, The nights start to cool off in early October, and really the nights still go down at least to the low seventies until early June, and then its just like someone filpped a switch and the nights get hot too. Everything is on AC of course, and I have a pool, which I love.

To find out how gay life and the attitude toward queerfolk are in FL I would suggest stopping in to the FLorida thread. I was married to an FTM for the first few years I lived here, I was alone for six years after his death, and the guy I just broke up with was FTM also. The laws here are bad, but if the court decision in Cali holds up through the federal courts, we may see and end to all discriminatory laws here soon. I have just started to stick my toes back in to gay waters, you might say. I am perceived as straight by almost everyone in my life.

Also, I think your house swapping idea is a good one. I'd love to spend a week in DC.
Smooches,
Keri

house swaping??? hmmmmm.....
who wants to swap with me for a month or so????? LOL
im 15 min from Niagara Fals....... and my rent is 450 a month.... 2 bedrooms.
wait.my 21 yr old still lives there..... hmmm

ruthie14 09-14-2010 08:02 PM

Just talked with my former stepfather. My stepsister passed away today. She was 48. We were never real close, but we have known each other since we were 4 years old. Had our first day of school together. Such a shame. Her children are in their late 20"s... too young. Can't help but cry.

Galahad 09-14-2010 09:32 PM

That's very sad Ruthie. Sorry for your loss and for her kids. It's hard when those who knew us when we were children disappear from our lives. Whether we were close or not, it feels like a lonelier world.

Daktari 09-15-2010 04:30 AM

G'day Lofters :chaplin:, it's been a while since I poked my head round the door here, how y'all doin'?. I've been busy having a summer and getting to grips with riding all sorts of different cycles again - both one and two wheeled. I've also just become a university student again......goodness knows how I talked my way into that?!




Ruthie, that is sad, you're in my thoughts.


waxnrope 09-15-2010 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lipstixgal (Post 189182)
Thank you for understanding its too damn cold here in the winter in NJ that's one of the reasons for moving to a warmer climate, so its hot in Cali I didn't know that, I'm not small either but dieting so that helps when I follow it!!

Not all of Cali is hot, Lipstix. I was born and raised in L.A. Always hated summer. I have heat intolerance ... I've lived on the east coast and in Oregon. I live in the Bay Area now. There are microclimates here, with temperature differences as much as 15 or greater degrees.

In Oakland, where I live, there are fewer foggy days, lots of sunshine, and warmer temps as compared to San Francisco. It can get up to 90s, and just when I start to whine, the natural air conditioning - fog - comes rolling in and cools things down. The cycle goes three days of heat, then fog comes. Works great for me.

lipstixgal 09-15-2010 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waxnrope (Post 191686)
Not all of Cali is hot, Lipstix. I was born and raised in L.A. Always hated summer. I have heat intolerance ... I've lived on the east coast and in Oregon. I live in the Bay Area now. There are microclimates here, with temperature differences as much as 15 or greater degrees.

In Oakland, where I live, there are fewer foggy days, lots of sunshine, and warmer temps as compared to San Francisco. It can get up to 90s, and just when I start to whine, the natural air conditioning - fog - comes rolling in and cools things down. The cycle goes three days of heat, then fog comes. Works great for me.

California was on my list but its too expensive to live!! glad to hear that the temperatures are working for ya. Its getting colder in NOrthern NJ in the mornings but the afternoon temps are better with the nights getting cooler, oh well what can you do got live with it until I find a place that is warm and sunny all year round!!

Licious 09-15-2010 07:58 PM

stopping in to say hello. :) *waves*

naturlover_52 09-16-2010 03:36 PM

moving to Alaska
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waxnrope (Post 189179)
It was about 80 today in Oakland. My ideal temp is about 68. I have heat intolerance. Summers, I want to move to Alaska.
Hope you all have a great weekend. Anyone doing something fun and/or interesting? I'm leaving in a few to see the film, Mao's Last Dancer.

well Just let me know IF u really wanna go there....there are SOME places that Get colder in the winter than others....or U could do like that live there....Be a snow bird...come back to the lower 48 during the winter and be up there in Summers. IT depends on whre U wanna be...because places like Fairbanks, where I was can get pretty WARM in the summer...Max is 85-90.
But then Anchorage a pretty good sized city about 8 hours away gets only to like 78.

JUST thought I would let U know....

lipstixgal 09-16-2010 04:26 PM

Good Evening to all the lofters how is everyone this evening?? FEllow classmates are job hunting and I tell you its not that easy even in the health-care field. I just hope it doesn't take too long to find work as a MA!!

morningstar55 09-17-2010 09:16 AM

mawning Kitchen junkies....
well what a morning I had.... lol
went for a power walk, grabed my coffee on the way bk to my truck, then checked my oil, had to walk bk to store, get oil, add to engin, then my oil cap fell under truck...*sigh* had to crawl under there to get it,, so ok im dirty now, walked bk to building to clean up, walking bk to truck, witnessd an old couple in there 70's hit a parked car in the parking lot .:blink:
and right in front of me so ran after them cuz they kept going.. *whewww*
ok now im off to head to my favorite art supply store here.. there is a new soul food restraunt next door , im thinking of getting something to go . and next to it is a chinese buffet. with a nice variety of SUSHI!! .. wow hard to decide.. lol
anyways........... ttfn:chocolate::cherry:

Jet 09-17-2010 10:37 AM

Hi all.
I think this is the first time I've been in here in over 30 days.
Everyone have a good weekend.

lipstixgal 09-17-2010 10:55 AM

Good afternoon lofters have a great weekend!!

morningstar55 09-18-2010 07:45 AM


its been a awsome crisp cool day here in Nashvegas.... but warming up ...
im about to hit the road.. have to be in Alliston On.. which is just north of Toronto by monday morning. soo will be driving most the day today.

anyways..... need to git here...... have a great weekend everyone.

Shi 09-18-2010 09:52 AM

Goodmorning everyone,

Its my first time in here so I thought I would say something lol.Its my first weekend off in 3 weeks and wouldn't you know it all my buddies are working today.Oh well guess I'll find something to do around here.
Have a great day everyone.

morningstar55 09-19-2010 11:11 AM

afternooners lofters
ya know.... lately i dont know what it is..... but i been running to some butchs i find of interest only to find out they are into other butchs.....
and i dont know why ..... but when i see them all cooing over each other on each others profile.. on FB and such .... it well .... i just cant stand to see that.. and i get the hell out of there... even ones that are just friends...
hope this doesnt offend anyone here... on that subject.
im just a girl whom loves and is very into the Butch/femme dynamic big time.
I love my girly side and makeup and girly things... and my domesticated ways of taking care of my guy and our house hold...
but i guess to each there own..... heh

Jude 09-22-2010 03:38 PM

Morningstar, don't you think those are kind of role stereotypes? Jeez, you drive a big ass truck. Somebody might say that's not feminine, even if it's bedecked with flowers. In real life, how many people actually fit the mold? I agree, "each to their own"

lipstixgal 09-22-2010 04:00 PM

Good Evening Lofters how is everyone doing, its suppose to storm this evening yikes I don't like that at all!!

naturlover_52 09-22-2010 04:23 PM

the whole Butch/butch thing
 
Ummm Star....Yeah I am rather offended.....I am a softbutch/androgynous person who is ONLY into butches and androgy people. NOT into the whole femme thing.......sorry that is just me.....and yeah none of US as Jude put it.....Fits the Mold....I am into taking care of others. I am a MAJOR caretaker....Does that make me femme?? NOT sure....I LOVE flowers...Hate pink and purple......more into Light blues and Jades and that rubber ducky yellow color....I shop in the men's department...trying helplessly to wear my hair in a fohawk...but I am NOT good at it. Above all I am JUST me. a friend of mine calls me a Chapstick Lesbian

Thinker 09-23-2010 09:17 PM

Gentle Moderation

We appreciate the way Jude and naturlover addressed morningstar's post. We need to be able to talk to one another about these things without being harsh and hurtful.

We do *indeed* need to be ever mindful and respectful of the beautiful diversity we celebrate here.

Just because something is "not my thing" doesn't mean I need to say anything about it. I just need to say what my thing is...and I can do that without bringing up the "negative" or flip side.

Jet 09-24-2010 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinker (Post 196989)
Gentle Moderation

Just because something is "not my thing" doesn't mean I need to say anything about it. I just need to say what my thing is...and I can do that without bringing up the "negative" or flip side.

So what, we can't say anything negative or the flip side? Our viewpoint
and how we put things is going to be monitored now?

Thinker 09-24-2010 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet (Post 197177)
So what, we can't say anything negative or the flip side? Our viewpoint
and how we put things is going to be monitored now?

1. No, Jet...not when the "negative" is expressing dislike for the way others here may love, desire, or express sexual interest. That's not okay now, and it won't be later.

2. We have asked that threads not be continually derailed simply because someone does not care for the moderation. Do that via PM.

3. You are being sarcastic as hell in asking that, and you know it. You know full good and well what our intentions were in posting that reminder, and your interjection is not helpful nor is it appreciated.

4. If you have any further issue with this, contact me via PM.

Thinker (moderating)

Jude 09-24-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morningstar55 (Post 194018)
afternooners lofters
ya know.... lately i dont know what it is..... but i been running to some butchs i find of interest only to find out they are into other butchs.....
and i dont know why ..... but when i see them all cooing over each other on each others profile.. on FB and such .... it well .... i just cant stand to see that.. and i get the hell out of there... even ones that are just friends...
hope this doesnt offend anyone here... on that subject.
im just a girl whom loves and is very into the Butch/femme dynamic big time.
I love my girly side and makeup and girly things... and my domesticated ways of taking care of my guy and our house hold...
but i guess to each there own..... heh

----------------------------
Can this thread be turned into something affirmative?

One of the positive things about growing up (presuming everybody in this thread is a bon afide "grown up") is that we get to take a look at some of the roles we've been playing in life and recognize them as either useful or non productive.

Every one of us have both feminine and masculine aspects. All human beings are somewhat androgynous (gay or straight). How wonderful to be us and able to experience ourselves as we truly are and give full expression to the varied facets of ourselves.

As we mature, one of the bonuses in life is coming to the point where we don't really give a damn what anybody else thinks of us. I don't care what you think of me so long as my authenticity is expressed within my own demeanor.

We wasted a whole lot of time in our youth "giving a damn" :balloon:

Just my thought.

Afterthought: I'd like to say that I am sooooooooooooooooooo pleased that I came upon Butch-Femme Planet. You've got some thoughtful, brilliant, intuitive people here that are hard to come by in the real world. My personal thanks to whomever came up with the idea and to those who moderate and subsidize it with their time and efforts. It's so nice to have a place to try out ideas (possibly try on different hats) and feel right at home. XXX to everybody here.

miss entycing 09-24-2010 12:34 PM

been around these threads for a long time both here and the dash site-
and *I've* never seen this particular thread anything less than affirmative
:)
*I* still don't.

*I* also think the original post was nicely moderated- with tact, and grace.
:)

life's too short to dwell... yanno?
my version of 'productive' may be your version of an idiot- so what?
our differences, and our versatility in an interconnecting space here
are what a community makes.
we are all fabulous, and perfectly flawed.... period.

so, moving on.....
good afternoon Lofter's!
hope everyone is having a delicious day thus far.
:sunglass:

JoSchmooze 09-24-2010 12:59 PM

My thing......
 
My thing is femmes....
Femmes in all shapes, sizes, short or tall....
Femmes with a sly sense of humor....
Femmes who don't mind a butch helping in the kitchen...
Femmes who like to have their butch open their doors....
Femmes who can dance a two step but who know when it's time
to sit down and take a bit of a rest....
Femmes who may be able to get me to do what I don't want to do.......
Femmes who are independent, those who know how to stand on their own two feet...
but who also lean a bit when they need to....
Femmes who can cock an eyebrow as if to say "oh no, you did not just say that".....
Femmes who also like butches!

Me likem Femmes......

:cigar2: :cigar2: :cigar2:

lipstixgal 09-24-2010 01:01 PM

Good Afternoon lofters just watching Alive the movie where all those rugby players crashed in the Andes so sad only one med student to help those poor people!! Hope everyone is having a great day!!


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