**quick in**

I've redirected it from the original source to the LESBIAN ZONE. This is to make it easier for those that knew where it was before to find it and for those looking to find it. :)

**quick out**

Linus...this may sound silly or petty or whatever but....
I wanted to say thank you for setting this up, and also for noticing and changing the fact that it wasn't originally in all caps like the butch and femme zone names were. A small thing maybe, but...thanks :rrose:

Linus, thanks for setting up the new Lesbian Zone. When I set it up the thread I was trying to figure out where to put it. I put it in Gender, Identity which was ok, but this will make it easier to find I think, especially for people new to the website.

Linus, I think I love you.. well.. maybe. I donno.. I do now, anyway..

lol

Great idea for the Lesbian Zone.. I think that everyone should have a place to start and post threads about what they want and need to talk about, without being attacked or dismissed. Thank you.

-Tony, who will now exit quietly from women's space.

The thread is for friends and allies too.

Hi everyone :rrose:

I hesitated to come in, but then saw the warm welcome my friend Cinderella got and thought I'd pop in.

Dyke doesn't resonate or feel right to me at all. I guess in my mind that feels more butch (for lack of a better word) than I can relate to.

In many ways I'm that "stealth lesbian"...even though I'm out to all of my family and friends. People look at me and assume "soccer mom" before anything else. Not trying to be invisible...just seems to work that way when I'm being who I really am.

Of course, it probably looks very different when I'm walking along with Scoote and holding her hand....or stopping to kiss on the beach. :lips:

So...dyke? No thank you.
Lesbian? Yep.

Bulldog, Thank you very much for this. By my statement of "quietly leaving women's space" i didn't intend to be snarky at all.. In hind sight, I feel that it could be seen as such. My intention was simply to be respectful of the sharing that is going on in here. I am on a path that is diffrent from being a women.. I actually started a thread in regards to it.

I have posted my support here and I will repeat it again and again.. But I don't think I am needed to do that. You are all very strong people.. But please know that I support this space and shall always strive to be respectful of it and the people that dwell within it.

In Light,
Tony

No, I was just clarifying. Thank you.

I don't know about most cities, but I know that in Toronto during the Pride Week festivities/tomfoolery the LGBTIQ parade is on Sunday, while Saturday is "Dyke Day" (yeah, we actually call it that) and women get their own parade on that day as well. Also, during the entire festival there is a beer garden for women only (and it's the nicest one, cuz it's got a wading pool).

I'm sure some other larger cities do the same?

In Toronto the Dyke March is waaaaay different from the big Pride Parade on Sunday. The Pride Parade is.....awful. Lots of corporate sponsors. Loud obnoxious floats. Too long and too crowded. (I hate the parade, I generally don't show up until afterward).

The Dyke March is smaller and more personal. People tend to just jump in and join the March, where with the Pride Parade there are rails up to keep us all out. It's wicked fun.

I'd actually suggest checking out Toronto for Pride Week sometime if you've got the funds/time. I've only ever been to Toronto, Vancouver, and NYC Pride - so I don't have a huge frame of reference. But Toronto blew Vancouver and NYC especially out of the water. (The NYC parade was a huge freaking let-down. I mean, it's New York for crissakes! I expected so much more.)

Anyway, bowing out of this thread since it's not meant for me. But I really wanted to answer your question.

Y'all have fun!

(p/s - Nice thread title. I used to have a cat who I had named after Mo.)

Betenoire, we have our Pride Parade and the Dyke March. The Dyke March is the night before but is separate from the "official" Pride celebration. The Dyke March is where you find all the renegades (with lots of hot kick ass femmes in the mix ::tease:). It's kind of a protest in a way to the official Pride but part of Pride weekend also.

One year a bunch of us Portlanders were at Hobos (local gay establishment) having drinks before the Dyke March. We were having so much fun we almost missed the march. Fortunately Lips noticed we are almost late and led the charge. We ended up running through the march instead of watching it.

My cell phone went off and I thought it might be some of the contingent, so I answered. It was my mother. She was calling to tell me what a good time she had with my brother in Washington, D.C. So I spent the last part of the march nodding and saying "yes Mom sounds great" as I kept running through downtown Portland in the march and trying to keep up with my friends and the dykes.

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this may be just what this site needed.

As long as we can remain respectful to each others space the better we will understand it.

I have read many threads on topics and lifestyles different from my own, but thats what I do read them. I try not to comment or poke my face and interject my opinion on things that arent my cup of tea. Sure sometimes I dont agree with some of the things I read , but I simply read something else.

I think a lesbian space can and should be included here. as well as a Trans zone,
I read posts in femme threads ,I may thank a post but I rarely comment because I dont feel it is my place to tell a femme my opinion on being a femme cause Im not. If we are talking about being female in general than , yes, I can relate and may comment.
I do not lurk other threads too often, but it is nice sometimes to get a better understanding of my B-F brothers and sisters, ALL OF US individually and in relation to the community. I honestly have educated my self a great deal on this site about transgender issues but rarely comment unless someone is, well for lack of a better way to say it , stirrin' up shit in an area I feel they have no business to really form an opinion, . Okay(I said lack of better words) I don't mean physically or on the site , every one has a right to be here but sometimes I feel people purposely jump in on threads to argue and such. likeif I went to a Male ID thread and started on about being a lesbian and how I think men are this or that....that crap is so unnecessary.
to each his/her own, Live and let live. I bet if we met each other face to face we would probably all like the hell out of each other and kiss and make up ya know?

we have a camaraderie and we have differences, differences that make us unique and individual, differences and similarities that bring us together.

I have scrapped off a little bit of my radical feminist persona , tried to change my wording when it comes to men in general but ....it doesnt change the way I feel a whole lot now I think I am comfortable with the views I hold with regard to feminism, men in general, women, lesbians,misogyny as well as how it relates to me and the men and womyn in "my" life

I think this " lesbian Zone" should be a safe open space where lesbians can speak freely about being a lesbian with out being challenged . For me there is no reason and never has been , to go to a Trans-space or a femme space for that matter, and start a debate with the people about how they feel about themselves.

Thank you bulldog, or Linus who ever it was that got this thread going.,

I think this may be the separation that helps to bring us all together.

It gives us the opportunity to demonstrate respect and acceptance, as well as support. I for one, will continue to keep my nose and opinion out of male - Id'ed threads.
There is a place to meet in the middle here,

I Think of the tall magnificent oak tree, it can stand all alone in the middle of the field, radiant and strong, or it can stand next to a towering green pine, red leaf maple, or a beautiful white birch.
Does this take away from its magnificence? is it no longer an oak tree? of course not!
It only makes it a important and necessary part needed to make up a colorful mighty and beautiful forest.


Namaste' all......
Peace and Love,
Stoney

I started the thread before there was a Lesbian Zone. It was a thread created by a Dyke/Lesbian (me) for other dykes and lesbians, as well as our friends and allies.

I am happy the Lesbian Zone was set up by the Administration and Tech because I think it does create space that is needed and gives visibility, which is especially important to people new to the site. That said, obviously lesbians are going to be participating in lots of other areas of the site, depending on their areas of interest.

Thanks, Kobi! This looks like a really cool place!

We might have to change our vacation plans.

I recall some controversy about one particular womens owned land in which someone got shot or there was some sort of violence. I can't however recall if it was ALA or GA. I do remember a huge nationwide concern in lesbians communities after it happened. It wasn't by chance this place was it?