I do appreciate what y'all are saying. I have experienced many different sexual and personal relationships. I guess I had to come to my own based on what did/didn't work for me. I guess that because we all grow into ourself thru life experiences, no one definition is ever going to solely describe who we are compared to someone else. The best we can hope for is to love each other for the unique individual we are. By saying I am femme, I am relating that I am female id. I am stone femme which means I seek butches and transguys that are male id and don't want me to pleasure them in the same way they do me. This dynamic allows a melding of 2 energies (male/female) in balance (for me) 'the Dance'. This is not just a sexual preference but a lifestyle choice for me and my partner. This is who I am and doesn't define anyone else.

Interesting. Ok, so if I am understanding you correctly, you define your relationship as stone b/c it is a D/g relationship?

Meaning definition of stone for you = D/g ?

Tell it like it is
 

I have a male / gentleman mentality. I do not like to be touched in a way a women is touched. It puts me a Lesbian head space... it is a bad place for me to be at !! I do not like to be feminized. !!

I believe that at some time or another a butch or femme has found her/him self doing certain sexual behaviors to please their partner but that is why a straight out conversation no matter how uncomfortable is needed ASAP.

Stone
 

I have to agree with Gemme. I think her definition is short and to the point. Although, I am coming from the Stone Butch perspective. I really appreciate so many people sharing their thoughts and stories.

BUMP!
 

a more welcoming stone thread I had not read previously. Thanks Miss JoLynn for creating one with such grace. (f)

now, I get to go back and read it all.. lol

Thanks Jess for bumping this friendlier thread.

Thank you for this wonderful, inclusive Stone thread. There are so many awesome posts here. I did post earlier in the thread, so not much to add at this time but thank you again to everyone.

Count me in. Just another refugee from that crazy 'House'.

just read through this thread
 

Ok i get the Stone thing for Butches and Femmes..I never thought of myself as Stone but after reading i can find a place there..I do like to be the agressor in the bedroom or Top..After doing what i do in the heat of passion i do need a little touch to take the edge off things..Give me 6 seconds then my attention goes back to my partner..I dont want to get to personal with my info..There are also places i prefer not to be touched,rubbed,grabbed or whatever..Guess that is the Stone part..

I do have a question..
I here Pillow Princess being mentioned a few times..My "X" was described as being that..When it was time for the bedroom activites she would lay naked on her back in bed with her arms over her head and legs wide open..{sorry to detailed?}..Wow!!..I loved that and killer body to go with it..She would keep her arms raised during sex and never heald on to me or any kind of interaction..She responded very well but no tender touches or nothing..
My question is :: Is that the definition of a "Pillow Princess"..???..
wondering..??..

I may be wrong, but I think in many cases, your definition of a pillow princess is accurate. It is a legitimate ID and shouldn't have any negative connotations.

It is, however, not how a stone femme behaves--or personally how I behave. While I respect a stone butches boundaries, I also have my own and choose not to touch where they don't wish to touch. However, there is a world of response, touch, and affection that I can give within those mutual boundaries.

People don't understand the stone dynamic. I have been asked if I were a Princess when someone finds out I'm stone. Not the same thing at all.

So a "Pillow Princess just lays there with out touching her partner affectionately..Is that right.??.

Can one be a Stone Princess..???..

I don't think this would describe a pillow princess.

It sounds more like a woman who has a suffered some sexual trauma in the past. I of course have no idea if this is accurate, but I must admit that this was my visceral response to reading this (and subsequently, feeling badly for her, if this is indeed the case).

pillow princess>> waste of femmine energy >> empty w/out passion.

Could you elaborate on what you are saying here?

Are you stating that the term pillow princess means waste of femmine energy and empty w/out passion?

or are you giving stating that this is the negitive image of what people think of when they hear pillow princess?


I'm asking for clarification, because I don't want to misunderstand what I'm reading...

no misunderstanding at all.. i could care less what others think ..its what i think i go by.

Ok.. so you are saying that you think someone who is a pillow princess is a waste of femmine energy >> empty w/out passion.

So is a Top femme who only gives and doesn't receive the same thing?

Speaking as someone who has been both in her life, I have to say that you are wrong on both counts... nothing wasted and in no way passionless...


How sad to be so judgemental and selfish...

Apparently you have never inspired passion in someone who only receives if your experience leads you to this conclusion..

I've been more fortunate and my experience lead me to the conclusion that it's hot as hell for someone to give me the pleasure of pleasing them and vise versa...

~ocean-

The post above feels super judgmental and goes against the part of our TOS about Intolerance where we ask people not to shame others about who they are.

Everyone on this site gets to individually decide how they like to fuck, who they want to fuck, and why they want to fuck. That means that every single person here is PERFECT exactly the way they are and if that means they want to lay on a pillow and get their moan on until the cows come home, it's OK!

It does NOT make people less passionate, less Feminine, or less of ANYTHING simply by fucking differently than you do. It just makes their style of fucking different. Period on that sentence.

I want everyone here to be super careful about imposing their idea of what is ok in bed on other people.

This is where we repeat my favorite mantra: "Other people's orgasms are none of your business."

Thanks,
Medusa
(lover of pillows, being on top, being on bottom, sideways, hanging from the ceiling, doing in in my socks, doing it in a box, and sundry other ways of fucking)

im sry for offending .. i;m not referring to a top femme at all.. .. i'll refrain my opinons :) sry again..