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Mister Bent 05-15-2011 03:59 PM

The only mention of paying for his top surgery that I recall was when he introduced his friends and said they paid for his surgery. Did he actually talk about needing the money, being unable to afford it otherwise, or borrowing it from them? Maybe I just missed that part.

This is one person's story, not a research guide. We can be as judgy as we want to be about how his surgery and other aspects of his life are financed, but I don't believe we have a right to know, nor is it something he should have to disclose.


Thinker 05-15-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Bent (Post 339717)
The only mention of paying for his top surgery that I recall was when he introduced his friends and said they paid for his surgery. Did he actually talk about needing the money, being unable to afford it otherwise, or borrowing it from them? Maybe I just missed that part.

This is one person's story, not a research guide. We can be as judgy as we want to be about how his surgery and other aspects of his life are financed, but I don't believe we have a right to know, nor is it something he should have to disclose.


If I remember correctly, it was written under the names of the friends that he borrowed the money from them.

Mister Bent 05-15-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinker (Post 339729)
If I remember correctly, it was written under the names of the friends that he borrowed the money from them.

I remember thinking at the time, that's a hell of a gift!


citybutch 05-15-2011 04:47 PM

Just as an FYI... (and this is something I can attest to)... one may have very nice things (home, car, etc)... even these days, one may be asset rich but cash poor... It ALL depends on how one's estate is set up. Chaz may have access to some cash flow through a trust... and assets may be given... but no real intense cash flow to go above and beyond. I am not saying this is Chaz's situation... I am just saying it could be a reality...

With something like a Family Charitable Foundation, one may have amazing cash flow... but that cash flow has to be spent in the name of the charitable guidelines of the foundation (which is strict rules established by the IRS)... so even with nice cash flow one may be limited on how that cash flow is utilized.

That being said... My points were just that with whatever resources Chaz may have, I would have loved to have seen a little bit of something on his privilege (WHATEVER that may be)... I think a lot of the questions may be coming from those types of confusion... and not out of any disrespect to Chaz.

Thinker 05-15-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by citybutch (Post 339744)
and not out of any disrespect to Chaz.

Indeed.

I don't think anyone in here has intended *any* disrespect to Chaz. At all.

I just chalk it up to curiousity.

Corkey 05-15-2011 04:59 PM

LOL I guess I'm just not that nosey LOL

Soon 05-15-2011 05:02 PM

just started watching
 
Finally it is on over here!

Thinker 05-15-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 339753)
LOL I guess I'm just not that nosey LOL

Hmmmm.... I see being curious and being nosey as two different things. I don't consider myself a nosey person AT ALL, but I do admit to seeing/hearing things that beg questions for me......make me curious.

I never mean harm by it, and there's not usually judgment involved. I just assume that's the case with most people until they give me a reason to believe otherwise.

Leigh 05-15-2011 05:04 PM

The documentary is just starting here in My area of Canada, so I think I'll have more of an opinion on this kinda stuff once I'm done watching it :-)

~Bo 05-15-2011 05:06 PM

I thought it said that the friends "loaned" him the money.

Mister Bent 05-15-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow (Post 339754)
Finally it is on over here!


Please, do us all a favor and tape or otherwise transcribe what is said about the financing of his top surgery and his friends.

Thanks, Jo!


Soon 05-15-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Bent (Post 339762)

Please, do us all a favor and tape or otherwise transcribe what is said about the financing of his top surgery and his friends.

Thanks, Jo!


I'm listening for it!

Soon 05-15-2011 05:24 PM

I'm trying to keep an open mind about Jen, but she is bugging me a bit. :|

(i.e. squealing while he is in hospital gown, "I've never seen you in a dress...you're in a mumu!" He had to tell her to be quiet.

DomnNC 05-15-2011 05:24 PM

His friends that he was sitting down to lunch with loaned him the money. It wasn't a gift but a loan. Apparently, he intends to pay them back.

amiyesiam 05-15-2011 05:28 PM

I binged "chaz bono income"
first article

Chaz's friends lent him the money
he has money coming in but didn't have the checks yet
it was to be a short term loan

Leigh 05-15-2011 05:32 PM

Wow, 6 1/2 lbs gone after the chest surgery ~ I'm figuring once Mine are gone I'll have also lost that amount (but its nice to see him happy afterwards even if he was doped up on pain meds) :)

Thinker 05-15-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow (Post 339763)
I'm listening for it!

Cool. Check the caption where it shows the names of the two friends. I believe it was written underneath their names.

Thinker 05-15-2011 05:43 PM

I found this from an article online. While it does mention the two women who loaned him the money for the surgery, it also brings up a part of the documentary that really stood out to me.....the "awkward silence" when Chaz made mention of a sex drive that women are somehow unable to experience/feel.

Midway through "Becoming Chaz," the raw and revelatory documentary about Chaz (nee Chastity) Bono's physical transition from female to male, Chaz visits his Alcoholics Anonymous sponsor and her partner to show them the results of his recent chest surgery. The women, who loaned Chaz the money to have his breasts removed, have prepared a lovely brunch and while Chaz chows down, he eagerly describes the side effects of his transition, which includes regular doses of testosterone. Not only does he find himself increasingly unable to abide women's "gabbing," he tells them, his sex drive has increased enormously.

"It's a shame women can't feel it," Chaz says, "and know how biological it is."

"Huh," says his sponsor. And while Bono, oblivious, continues to eat, the two women sit, frozen in a brief but excruciating pause. It all comes down to chemistry, after all.




Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/05/09...#ixzz1MT2iXKE3


ETA: I found myself grimacing during this segment.

~Bo 05-15-2011 05:43 PM

OWN keeps rerunning it. It's been on at lease 4 times since the premier last Tuesday.

Soon 05-15-2011 05:43 PM

"Jane and her partner loaned Chaz the money for the surgery."


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