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True - especially when they make a mess on the seat. :blink: But to me, men's are just nastier - maybe bc they miss the bowl a lot & their mess ends up on the floor - not sure, just how it feels to me. Maybe I've just been around some nasty mens. |
Always been the opposite in my experience. Women's bathrooms are much dirtier than men's. What's weird to me is that I get how men "miss" the toilet but can't figure out how women can't hit the two pointer,lol.
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i personally like to take my butch into the same stall with me :)
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Probably from hovering over the bowl so as to avoid touching the seat and catching imaginary diseases. :winky: |
The 2003 International Building Code requires that all new construction and substantial renovation for public restrooms include a family, or unisex, bathroom. Most new, large venues such as malls, airports, and sports arenas, now include at least one type unisex bathroom in addition to men's and women's public restrooms. But not all states have adopted the codes. Planning construction or renovation? Check your local public restroom regulations.
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I have encountered many a scared woman confused by me.
Security has been called ,etc. The bottom line is they are reacting from a fear place and really who can blame them for that. Yes, they might become rude with their non thought out reactions when encountering some of us but we get to think about our reactions to them. They are women in a place that most times feels safe to them. Never has my reaction or response been to show them what I have under my shirt. I guess reading that response over and over through the years bugs the shit out of me. I get the hurt and the anger of being questioned but I dont get the threat of flashing tits or anything else as a well thought out response. They are surprised by us but we get to think about it. Cut them some fucking slack already. speaking as someone who's done some janitorial work in the past all people have the ability to be equally disgusting. and men are not the only sex who enjoy some reading material either:reader: |
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I'm curious to know where those who have had trouble using a public restroom live. I am in the only totally Red State and while there are and always will be issues. I have never seen these vicious things happen. It's totally disturbing and if nothing else knowing the locations will help me keep an open eye if I ever visit any of the said locations.
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I dont think it's limited to any specific locations - I've lived in a lot of different states (IL, OK, CO, CA, MS, WA) and driven through even more on my way to one place or another and I've encountered everything from stares, to shocked looks while they check the sign on the door, to stopping their friend or security to say loudly that "there's a man in there", to saying something directly to me, to physically trying to keep me from entering. Also, the urge to lift one's shirt in an effort to be seen as the woman that you are is a natural urge. Would I have really done it? No, of course not. But the urge is still there because I belong there just as much as any woman does - it's my space too; and the fact that it's considered a safe space for feminine looking women but not masculine looking women is sad to me. That's really all I had on that issue. :) |
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and what amazes me is the baby changing station. :| Okie it doesn't matter where you are because narrow minded stupid people are everywhere. I've been with a butch twice when the bathroom thing happened.. once in Oregon and once in Alabama. Both times my partner was confronted by males who made snide comments about the butch being in the *wrong bathroom* as they exited or entered and in a completely confrontational manner. |
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I geuss for me, I dont take it so personal anymore.
Of course it's awkward and I'd prefer that it did not happen but It's not really my issue how someone interprets my gender. Showing someone proof of what I am is not a natural urge ,for me. Let's say grandma and maybe your neice were in stalls 3 and 4 , someone enters bathroom who you read as male. What would your response be to them? Have I been offended and embaressed? yes ,of course I had one lady peek over the stall even. To me what is "totally disturbing" is being beaten because then it is personal. I think it would be interesting to do a poll on the areas in which this has happened to people. I feel fortunate to have only once experienced some teenage kids screaming queers out their window while walking with a girlfriend down the street 20 years ago. |
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I understand that - I was working off of & responding to the post that mentioned that - I probably should have quoted it but was being lazy. :) |
Like Okie if I am in NM or TX or OK or any of the ranch country I rarely get called Sir and rarely get the 'OMG a man is in our potty room'. I think the ques for woman are different in farm/ranch land......lots of masculine women who are straight in those parts of the world. Seeing a woman in work boots, cowboy boots, jeans, hats is not unusual.
Years back, I was in an airport and went into the ladies room. This woman followed me in yelling at me that this was the women's bathroom. I just ignored her and went into a stall. She started banging on the door to the stall................serious folks.....she started banging on the door. The banging stopped, I finished and washed my hands and went out the door. Well, a security guard was standing outside the door with this woman. He looked at me and asked why I went in the ladies room. I looked at him and said that I belonged in that bathroom and walked off. At least he didn't follow me after that. On the trip back in that same airport I went in the same ladies room and some woman looked at me and told me I was in the wrong bathroom. I looked at her and pulled up my shirt and showed her my tits (I haven't worn a bra since high school). she turned about 100 shades of red and started apologizing. I ignored her and did my business and left. I get it once in a while at the VA, but it's usually if someone sees me from behind and when I turn around they apologize. Military folks also seem to have a different set of ques for women and are not likely to mistake me for a man. I always wonder if they think I can't read and recognize the sign for women vs men. It never has made any sense to me. And if I am already in there...it's like I know the difference between the mens room and the ladies room............mens potty has urinals and the womens does not. As to safety..............oh please it's a damn bathroom and what about MY safety to be able to walk in a bathroom without all that crap. anyway.....I'm rambling.......... |
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