Different treatment this past week, continued:

Flew out of Long Beach, told them about liquid med-TSA did the explosives test.

Flew out of Oakland, told them about liquid med, TSA did not even take it out of the baggie. Checked the label against my boarding pass and waved me through.

Consistency would still be nice.

What Happens To Liquids Surrendered At Airport Security

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbender/2012/07/11/what-happens-to-liquids-surrendered-at-airport-security/

It isn't too dangerous to sit in a barrel at the secure area but it must be disposed of as if it is. And at what expense?

Grandmother: 'Humiliated' by TSA on Way to Mayo Clinic

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S2695022.shtml?cat=1

Why would anyone think it is okay to touch someone's feeding tube?

TSA TROUBLE: Disabled Man Points Finger At TSA

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=40261&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Will TSA soon be looking through all your papers, cell phones and computers?

TSA: Search your iPhone? Yes we can!

http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/tsa-we-can-read-any-document-paper-or-digital-we-find-in-your-bags/

TSA Expands Invasion To CA Train Stations & Bus Terminals

http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-expands-invasion-to-ca-train-stations-bus-terminals.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitt er

The TSA is looking for terrorists in train and bus stations?? I don't think so!

TSA officer charged with terrorizing, domestic violence

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/368488/group/News/

Cato Institute’s anti-TSA petition goes viral

http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/07/12/cato-institutes-anti-tsa-petition-goes-viral/

"According to the petition, the TSA was ordered by a federal court in July 2011 to perform a “notice-and-comment rulemaking” on their use of new “Advanced Imaging Technology” as part of airport security screening.

Essentially, TSA was supposed to publish all the details pertaining to the practice of this advanced imaging screening process and take into account reaction from the public before putting the new technology into use.

Now, one year later, Cato reports that the TSA has yet to even begin the process."

Flight Diverted Over Unclaimed Camera

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/07/flight-diverted-over-unclaimed-camera/

http://www.examiner.com/article/bomb-scare-on-board-united-airlines-flight-956-triggers-two-emergencies

Really? Over a forgotten camera? When did we go from thinking of ourselves as the strongest, bravest nation to being so scared of our shadows?

Cross posting my confession:

I confess my heart is heavy for the people of Milwaukee.

I confess my heart was, and is, heavy for the people of Colorado.

I confess my heart is heavy for a friend battling breast cancer.

I confess my heart is heavy for those families that have lost someone due to another person driving under the influence.

I confess so much loss from mental illness, cancer and DUIs, and yet our government spends billions on fighting terrorism at our airports, train stations, and bus stations.

I confess some facts to chew on:
Deaths from terrorism since 9/11 (10 years) - 3033
Deaths from breast cancer in 2011 - 39,520 (est)
Deaths from DUIs in 2010 - 32,885
Deaths from homicide in 2011 - 16,799

I confess that is 89,204 deaths in one year compared to 3,033 over 10 years.

I confess this doesn't include death by other cancers, working in unsafe conditions, starvation, lack of medical treatment for treatable illnesses, etc.

I confess 2012 TSA budget: $7.85 Billion

I confess no death should be taken lightly and it is not my intent to say we shouldn't always remember the tragedy of 9/11.

I confess what we, the goverment, are spending our tax dollars on doesn't work for me.

I confess putting away my soapbox now.

Ex-TSA workers indicted in airport drug-smuggling

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/ex-tsa-workers-indicted-1493185.html

They weren't 'ex' workers at the time of the drug smuggling......

Are there data on the percentage of these incidents? I'm wondering if a lot of this crap is occurring at specific airports more often than at others. Is this about management of specific TSA locations?

I just went through airport security and was treated very well and very respectfully. I was not touched in any inappropriate way. This was at airports in Medford OR and Midland TX. (yeah yeah podunk airports going to podunk towns) It could have been much worse as my last name was spelled incorrectly on my boarding pass and I walk with a cane..........an obvious typo using 's' instead of 'a'.

Are you asking for a percentage of incidents to the number of people that go through security on a daily basis? No, there is no data for that because not everyone reports what happens out of fear of retaliation, embarrassment, denial (sounds a bit like a rape victim....hmmmmm).

The percentage of TSA employees charged with a crime to the number of TSA employees appears to be around 1% of 65,000 in 2011. One percent doesn't seem like much until you look at the heinousness of the crimes committed by the same people that look at our personal belongings, touch our bodies, and determine if we have the right to fly today.

No, the incidents are not specific to any airports, although many of the flyers I know agree that certain airports are worse than others for the flyers due, in part, to TSA power trips.

It is great that you did not experience any inappropriate touching and that you were treated respectfully, however, please remember how many times someone is arrested for molestation, murder, drugs, etc., only to have neighbors and family say he is such a nice person, I can't believe he acted that way.

Millions of flyers may go through TSA checkpoints with no problem, or at least not enough of a problem to complain about, but does that make the one time your mother, sister, spouse, child... was treated inappropriately, tolerable?

What would be an acceptable percentage of inappropriate behavior?

Thank you for your question, Toughy. Please let me know if I did not provide the information you were looking for.

TSA officers allege racial profiling at Logan

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/08/11/tsa-officers-allege-racial-profiling-logan/oj8AHKCddiUpnTmWgf0mxK/story.html

Begin hearings on the use of full body scanners by the TSA, per the finding in EPIC v. DHS, No. 10-1157

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/begin-hearings-use-full-body-scanners-tsa-finding-epic-v-dhs-no-10-1157/7YpJKlKl

If you already signed this, please consider signing again. Somehow the petition was taken down on the site and we are starting at zero.

Andrea............

I am solutions oriented and that was the reason for my question. If you go back and read my posts in this thread (and others) you will find I am not a fan of how we conduct airport security in the US.

Thanks for the info.............by the way do you have a link for your data>

Flew recently from PDX to Detroit. No problems either way. Only thing was I forgot to take off my tags before going through scanner, so TSA asked me about it and asked if it was ok if they patted me down. Very upper top, near collar bone and up, down sides and down sides of legs.

No big deal. Respectful and nice

Not an attempt to hijack/steal this thread... a serious question and I thought this was the best place to post...

But has anyone had any issues with strapons/feeldoes in their luggage? I'm thinking putting my gear in my checked bag, and I'm definitely not packing while flying because I just don't want to deal with it.

I've always opted for pat-downs. I refuse go to through the xray machines because I fly so much. I can average 8-10 flights a month during my busy race season. The TSA people always tell me it's no worse than the equivalent of getting an xray at the dentist. Then I ask them if they would get 10-20 xrays a month.

Sometimes the TSA staff is rude when I opt out because they're already busy and have to call someone over to do it.

What do you mean by "issues"?

I doubt TSA would confiscate... er... request that you voluntarily surrender them if found in your carry on but they might pull them out and expose your personal belongings to others. If you put them in your checked bag, the worse that would happen is they could be taken by the baggage inspectors.

I remember your posts in this thread. I hope I didn't say something to make you think I found your question offensive or ..... something. I am happy to answer any questions.

I get my links from reading CNN.com and other news sources, as well as TSA forums at flyertalk.com and travelunderground.org.

Or are you asking for a specific link for specific data?

I guess my concern about issues would be confiscation/removal of any objects, (excuse my bluntness but it's necessary) such as one's strap on, feeldoe, handcuffs, etc. anything packed in a checked-bag. I know to take the batteries out of anything (I do in storage anyway) to prevent something from vibrating if accidentally switched on, thus causing a suspicious bag issue. From the research/checking I've done, the best thing I can think of is to pack items in plastic ziplock bags and put in check in luggage.

Quite frankly I don't trust the TSA. There have been issues in my home airport with TSA agents being caught taking thousands of dollars of jewelry, electronics, etc. out of people's bags. And with the maturity of some of the officers I've seen here, I'm really debating whether or not to bring anything. Just wondering if anyone's had their personal items disappear from checked bags.

Nothing disappeared from mine. Even though my bag tore.

I packed my strap on with no problem. I wouldn't pack handcuffs though.

Taking Pictures at the Checkpoint directly from the TSA website http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/taking_pictures.shtm

"TSA does not prohibit the public, passengers or press from photographing, videotaping or filming at security checkpoints, as long as the screening process is not interfered with or slowed down. We do ask you to not film or take pictures of the monitors. While the TSA does not prohibit photographs at screening locations, local laws, state statutes, or local ordinances might."

So why are the TSA clerks telling this person he can't film the searching of his bag and then not allowing him to fly?

In 2010, 1.73 million passengers flew per day.

Every week TSA posts the items 'found' the week before. You can read about it here: http://blog.tsa.gov/2012/08/tsa-week-in-review-passengers-continue.html

8-3-12 through 8-9-12:
Firearms: 30: 24 loaded; 6 unloaded
7 artfully concealed prohibited items found at checkpoints


At 7.85 Billion a year budget, that's over $80,000 an object.

TSA ‘Reaches’ Out at Paul Ryan Event

http://shark-tank.net/2012/08/18/tsa-reaches-out-at-paul-ryan-event/

Upon arriving at Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan’s first Florida stop in The Villages, Florida, we could help but notice that alongside Secret Service and the local Sumter County Sheriff’s Office, were members of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) checking people’s belongings. A big WTF is in order here.

We heard that the TSA was going to expand its ummm, ‘reach,’ but to assist in political campaigns is quite the jump in broadening their ‘transportation security horizons.’ I counted no less than (6) TSA agents alongside the usual uniformed Secret Service detail-not to be confused with the ‘Men In Black’ looking agents.

Lack of Studies, Questionable Safety of Full Body Airport X-Rays Continue to Raise Alarm

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/375178/20120820/lack-studies-questionable-safety-full-body-airport.htm#.UDIuD6NG_Q3

Steve Gunn: Just say no when the TSA asks you to 'chat'

http://www.mlive.com/opinion/muskegon/index.ssf/2012/08/steve_gunn_37.html

Most of us have a point that something is no longer okay. To Steve Gunn this point was interrogation by a TSA BDO. Read his column by clicking the link above.

Many of us also have heard rumblings about what is to come... Maybe things we say "oh, that will never happen". I heard this comment when when I spoke of pat downs, private searches, etc.

I am curious. What is your breaking point? What would be that final straw for you? Would you be willing to apply to fly (Check Point) but not willing to submit to a body cavity search? Would you be willing to forgo carry on luggage but not willing to discuss the purpose of your travel with a BDO?

What is your limit to anything for security?

Actually I am in favor of trained competent agents talking with every passenger in the airport. That is part of Israeli airport security measures. It works the large majority of the time.. There are tell-tale signs to look for....and it's well documented in the research.

The incident described is textbook for how NOT to do this. Damn these folks make me nuts sometimes.


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I also must point out some fairly blatant sexism in the article:

He actually presented himself in the deceptive form of a young, attractive female officer,

What do any of those adjectives have to do with anything? Would he use any of those adjectives if it was not 'an attractive, female officer'. Would he have said it was an 'ugly old female officer'? A fat old man? A hot hunky young man.

WTF???

I don't know enough about that form of security but I will say I don't think TSA trains their people well enough to do an adequate job. According to the following news article they receive four days of classroom training and three days of on the job training. If it were that easy, we would all do it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20005566-10391695.html

Oh, and I bet the security in Israel are not hired off pizza delivery boxes as the TSA agents are.

What my father would have said about the TSA

http://tsanewsblog.com/5338/news/what-my-father-would-have-said-about-the-tsa/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed:+tsanewsblog/Azgs+%28TSA+News%29

This well written piece describes my feelings so well. Please take the time to read it.

TSA agent admits detaining people is not really about airline safety


Poster's comment:
"This was inside the terminal at the Houston airport. I was not allowed to board a plane (even though I had already been through airport security) because I drank my water instead of letting the TSA "test" it. The TSA agent finally admitted that it wasn't because they thought I was a security risk-it was because they were mad at me!

I was able to get on the very next flight out of houston-and even managed an upgrade! (thanks United)

Sorry for crappy phone video-but the audio is what I wanted to post.

I know this is not really news (it seems like the TSA is retaliating all the time against people), but it was a little satisfying to get that statement on video."

TSA Worker Charged With Possession Of Child Porn

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/09/12...of-child-porn/

ABC News Tracks Missing iPad To Florida Home of TSA Officer

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/abc-news-tracks-missing-ipad-florida-home-tsa/story?id=17331937#.UGWjR1GlvIU

Got to love how he threw his wife under the bus after being caught. LOL

TSA hired defrocked Camden priest without background check

http://articles.philly.com/2012-10-01/news/34199381_1_tsa-camden-diocese-peter-feuerherd

So I have no problems flying with my "gear" in my checked bags last week. My bag was inspected at all three airports where I checked in and I got the TSA flyer about them checking my bag.

So my big debate is... on a future trip I will want to bring my stuff with me, but I really don't want to check a bag. Anyone put your toys in a carryon? I'm talking harness and c*ck here, nothing else.

yep I have done the carry-on toys in the bag thing...........the worst that will happen is TSA will want to have a look see at them, which can be lots of fun.....laughin....I put mine in individual plastic bags in my carry on.

I'm just curious. Why do people often write "cock" as "c*ck"?

I see it a lot on the site. Just wondering.

You will also see bitch as b*tch, whore as wh*re, cunt as c*nt....

it harkens back to the days of censoring certain words on public web sites.....and I think there are some sites today that will not let you say bitch or cock

either that or they think it's more polite........it's not like we don't know what the word is.......so I frankly do not see the point........

TSA agent admits to stealing cash from passenger as punishment

http://tsanewsblog.com/6380/news/tsa-agent-admits-to-stealing-cash-from-passenger-as-punishment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+tsanewsblog%2FAzgs+%28TSA+News%29

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I do not want to derail this conversation from what the thread is about so I will keep this short. I just wanted to respond to two posts. Who knows this may turn into a discussion on another thread.

I cannot speak for why other people use * to spell words like c*ck. But this is why I did, and why I actually have to do it right now. I was doing it because I was posting/replying at a location where posting certain words will set off a spam filter. I'm on the wireless at my car dealership and their system blocks certain things out. For some reason it won't block a page if certain words are written out but it knows when you type it. If some people feel the need to that's their concern and I wouldn't judge them for it (and I am not saying anyone was). Not pointing any fingers here, just offering a response.