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Linus 11-06-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun (Post 693243)
Good Morning All,

Is there a TDOR thread around here? I am wondering what events are goinng on around the country this year. If there is no thread I may start one. The national site is not always updated well and I really want to see this event get more visibility this year.

Thanks!

http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...ead.php?t=2926

Sun 11-06-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 693245)

Thanks Linus.

GraffitiBoi 11-28-2012 08:48 AM

Hi guys. Just popping in here to vent for a minute.

I called the trans clininc where I live today so I can get back on T. I was on T for 7 years before having to stop while my regular doctor took care of some medical issues I had. I'm now healthy enough to go back on T (yay!) so I called up my old clinic. Ummm... wtf??? The woman I talked to said because it's been a couple of years I have to start the process over. Intake, eval, therapy, etc. before going on T. Huh? Why? I did all that before. I've also had my top surgery and my hysto (I don't plan on having lower surgery) and have been living as male for 12 years. So explain to me why I have to go through all the hoops again to prove that I'm trans?

I can understand needing to do lab work and physical before being allowed to get my prescription again. That's common sense. But to have to go through the initial eval and therapy that I went through back in 2000 when I first started transition??? It's been 12 years since I started my journey, I'm pretty sure this isn't 'just a phase'. LOL

My family Dr would write me the script, but I want to go through the clinic since they know what to keep an eye out for when I have my labs and follow up appointments.

Anyway... I just needed to get that off my chest and let out a little steam. Thanks for listening!

Linus 11-28-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi (Post 708201)
Hi guys. Just popping in here to vent for a minute.

I called the trans clininc where I live today so I can get back on T. I was on T for 7 years before having to stop while my regular doctor took care of some medical issues I had. I'm now healthy enough to go back on T (yay!) so I called up my old clinic. Ummm... wtf??? The woman I talked to said because it's been a couple of years I have to start the process over. Intake, eval, therapy, etc. before going on T. Huh? Why? I did all that before. I've also had my top surgery and my hysto (I don't plan on having lower surgery) and have been living as male for 12 years. So explain to me why I have to go through all the hoops again to prove that I'm trans?

I can understand needing to do lab work and physical before being allowed to get my prescription again. That's common sense. But to have to go through the initial eval and therapy that I went through back in 2000 when I first started transition??? It's been 12 years since I started my journey, I'm pretty sure this isn't 'just a phase'. LOL

My family Dr would write me the script, but I want to go through the clinic since they know what to keep an eye out for when I have my labs and follow up appointments.

Anyway... I just needed to get that off my chest and let out a little steam. Thanks for listening!

That sucks! I could see lab work/physical but I'd imagine that unless you stopped because you questioned the choice then it'd make sense to do the rest... Hopefully they make it a quick process (when I started in NYC, they were surprisingly quick for me).

GraffitiBoi 11-28-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 708207)
That sucks! I could see lab work/physical but I'd imagine that unless you stopped because you questioned the choice then it'd make sense to do the rest... Hopefully they make it a quick process (when I started in NYC, they were surprisingly quick for me).

If they schedule me with who I think they will... I can get the script after the first appointment. My appointment is in January. It still bugs me though. As it is I'm struggling with my insurance to cover it. It's not normally covered but I'm fighting it under 'continuity of care.' My employer can go and have it included in the benefits package but our company is just too huge to go that route (very large world-wide corporation.)

Linus 11-28-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi (Post 708214)
If they schedule me with who I think they will... I can get the script after the first appointment. My appointment is in January. It still bugs me though. As it is I'm struggling with my insurance to cover it. It's not normally covered but I'm fighting it under 'continuity of care.' My employer can go and have it included in the benefits package but our company is just too huge to go that route (very large world-wide corporation.)


Why would be a large company prevent them from having it covered? Lots of large companies have it (e.g., Microsoft, Google, etc.). I'm currently trying to get my company to get it (we also a large global company) but it's been a fight for a while yet.

GraffitiBoi 11-28-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 708217)
Why would be a large company prevent them from having it covered? Lots of large companies have it (e.g., Microsoft, Google, etc.). I'm currently trying to get my company to get it (we also a large global company) but it's been a fight for a while yet.

I should have clarified... It doesn't prevent them from covering it. They are pro LGBT everything. It just makes it a long hard process for me to get it included.

Hominid 11-28-2012 11:38 PM

I'm surprised your regular doctor, after being on it for so long, doesn't feel comfortable prescribing it -

GraffitiBoi 11-29-2012 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hominid (Post 708662)
I'm surprised your regular doctor, after being on it for so long, doesn't feel comfortable prescribing it -

She'll prescribe it but doesn't know enough to monitor it from a transgender perspective. I had a condition that progressed rapidly due to T use and it wasn't caught. I ended up having surgery to fix the issue, and the damage to several of my internal organs. I'm fine now and will have no more problems when on T again, but my Dr thinks it would be better for me if I go to a clinic that knows more about transgender patients. She's still willing to write the script for me, but I guess I want to play it safe as well.

DMW 11-29-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi (Post 708201)

So explain to me why I have to go through all the hoops again to prove that I'm trans?

I can understand needing to do lab work and physical before being allowed to get my prescription again. That's common sense. But to have to go through the initial eval and therapy that I went through back in 2000 when I first started transition??? It's been 12 years since I started my journey, I'm pretty sure this isn't 'just a phase'. LOL

My family Dr would write me the script, but I want to go through the clinic since they know what to keep an eye out for when I have my labs and follow up appointments.

Anyway... I just needed to get that off my chest and let out a little steam. Thanks for listening!

Dude, i have been through some of that myself. I moved around for various reasons and i had to do that in...what would be a total of 5 different states, now! OY. Never planned to move so much either. Seriously.
Anyhow, i feel your pain. If it makes you feel any better... I recently had to go through that. I went to a local trans group, with a set plan and goal in mind. First, where are the good trans Dr's.? if any? Interestingly enough the Dr. that was recommended to me by a younger transman, with an assurance that i would get what i needed, i rejected. I went in to the office...bracing myself for the reality that i may have to do the trans 101...information session again...blah blah blah...I did have to do quite a bit.
As this Dr. sees mostly Females. I was told that she doesn't just hand the T out which is good...you know...cause like you said...labs are important.

So, she looked at me and said..."***** i know that you have been on T, you have a beard etc...so, you do not need to show me any writen documention or give my any explanation as to why you need to continue taking it."
She was smiling and laughing at me...
Thank God she was an older Dyke lesbian. I think she is. If she were a femme...i don't know if I would feel so comfortable. I would be shy.
Do you feel that way? Nothing against femmes at ALL! I would just be shy about some topics.

All i can say is...what a relief! So, keep your chin up Graffiti..

DMW 11-29-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi (Post 708685)
She'll prescribe it but doesn't know enough to monitor it from a transgender perspective. I had a condition that progressed rapidly due to T use and it wasn't caught. I ended up having surgery to fix the issue, and the damage to several of my internal organs. I'm fine now and will have no more problems when on T again, but my Dr thinks it would be better for me if I go to a clinic that knows more about transgender patients. She's still willing to write the script for me, but I guess I want to play it safe as well.

Definately, good to go local and do labs...Sorry that you have had trouble in the past. Sounds like an endocrinologist...etc...and more specialists may be necessary. You don't have to go into details here. I am glad that you are being careful.
Gotta have the labs...after you start...at least 3 months post. I think that you are going the right route and doing the right thing.

alexri 12-10-2012 09:06 PM

I know I'm living a double life. It's draining. I'm myself when I can be, and I'm biologically female when I have to be right now... at work, with family, with friends who don't know. But every now and then I have a public experience that makes me have hope, and makes me see what I'm missing.

While I was out training last weekend, I passed a young girl and her mother on a bike path. I heard the girl say, "he's definitely a boy, but he looks like a girl. He must hate that."

A month ago, in an all women's race, I heard a young boy who was spectating say, "hey there's a guy in the race."

Kids get it before their minds are polluted by society. They question because they want to understand, but they don't judge.

Then, I got "sir'd" at the grocery store last night. I had my hat on, and was looking down, when the cashier said it to me. The glow on my face on the ride home could have lit up NYC.

Now, what I need is courage. The courage to stop thinking of all the "what if's" and go legally change my name. I need the courage this of how to handle this at work, especially knowing I am fully supported by HR. I need the courage to love myself enough to be myself all the time.

DMW 12-10-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alexri (Post 714878)
But every now and then I have a public experience that makes me have hope, and makes me see what I'm missing.

Kids get it before their minds are polluted by society. They question because they want to understand, but they don't judge.

Now, what I need is courage. The courage to stop thinking of all the "what if's" and go legally change my name. I need the courage this of how to handle this at work, especially knowing I am fully supported by HR. I need the courage to love myself enough to be myself all the time.


Alexri,

The hope will grow and those positive experiences will occur for you more often, than not.
Kids do get it before the adults. They just have not been conformed to the norm. They are not fully molded with the gender bias. And surprisingly, either are the majority of adults when given a chance and explanation. I promise...this, is my experience.

And the Courage...YOU ALREADY HAVE COURAGE AND ARE DOING IT!
CHEERS TO YOU! YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT COURAGE Alex.

I am proud of transmen like you. Thank you. And remember, you already
are yourself inside...you always have been.
I am glad that i happened to be around the puter and saw this.
I should subscribe to the thread.

I have done the HR thing as butch...applied to a job as a butch and
had to go to HR after and explain. I just put my driver's license on the desk
of the head of HR and started talking...After of course I told them i needed
a private personal meeting with them.
Feel free to pm. me.

Take care now,
DMW

alexri 12-11-2012 07:16 PM

Did you ever have that point where you're walking past a window or a mirror, and out of the corner of your eye, you see him? You see your reflection, and it's him?

Or when someone's dog comes up to you, and the dog owner says, "that's weird, my dog only acts that way around men"?

I know who I am. All the pieces of the puzzle fit now. It's the explanation for so much in life... the total lack of interest in all girl-centered toys growing up; faking an interest in boy bands in grammar school because that's what I was supposed to like; never, ever feeling comfortable in lesbian bars, feeling like an outsider; the body dysmorphia; the total lack of comfort during certain sexual activities; dressing in men's clothes for over 20 years... and on, and on, and on.

At this point, I am just afraid. Afraid of the rejection. Afraid of the reaction of family, friends and coworkers. Afraid of going through body-altering changes and finding that it made me no happier than I am now.

Somedays I think I can go along faking it. Other days I cringe. Yes I do talk to a therapist about this, and I do belong to a couple of in-person trans social groups who are totally accepting.

Just rambling tonight.

Crow 12-26-2012 12:21 AM

I want to go on record and thank Medusa for not lumping all Trans guys into the same catagory of "femme bashers".

It has been my honor and privilege to have been loved by a femme or two in this lifetime. I would not be who I am today without their kind of love.

There is more than a little to say about the beauty of not having to explain who I am to a femme.

They are the safe place in this world for us.

Thank you ladies. From the bottom of this guys heart.

As to the thread and the question of when to disclose...I have always felt the best approach is honesty. From the start. Deception is never fair in any form.

Crow

UUDan 01-24-2013 09:26 PM

Dating
 
Hi Folks. This is my first post. I am FTM, and just a little under 2 years on T. I'm ready to jump into the dating pool, but I'm finding the pool to be very shallow. I fully "pass" as a biomale now. To look at me, you'd never know I was born female. Anyway, I am interested in dating women. It doesn't much matter to me what they identify as - femme, lesbian, straight, etc... But since I haven't really dated since adopting my new identity, I wasn't sure if asking a straight woman out would be some sort of "false advertising" so to speak. I kinda thought I was going to be limited to the LGBT community as dating options, but now I am starting to question that. Why should I limit myself? If I am attracted to someone, I'd like to feel OK to ask her out. I'm curious to hear from more experienced transguys on this. Have you asked straight girls out? If so, how/when did you disclose you were trans? What were their reactions?

Peace-

Dan

Linus 01-28-2013 11:50 AM

So I'm all excited. I just found out that my company has added full GRS coverage to the benefits program, to the tune of $50,000 (!!). I had tried back in 2008/2009 to get this done but didn't get too far. Recently a transwoman in the company took the lead on this stuff and just hammered HR with facts and figures. This probably explains why my T was covered on the last prescription I picked up.

DMW 05-20-2013 11:01 AM

I recently went through some std testing at a local, county, clinic because I have been with a few women in the past couple of years. I find it very interesting how I am assumed to be a biomale and relieved at that, I must say. That has never really been an issue. The interesting part is needing and wanting appropriate ( broadbased) healthcare for trans people. I guess I have an internal conflict.

So, when asked to piss into a cup for chlamydia, syphilis and other fun stuff...when in fact I was in a room full of biomales...I realized that I may be asked to perform this without a door on the restroom stall. The unknown tends to be a little anxiety inducing.

I wonder about myself and why I didn't want to out myself to the county? It is a struggle. On the questionnaire, FTM male was an option. And i thought it impressive that we are recognized by the county. However, that recognition of trans people could be for legal reasons etc.

Why wouldn't I put myself out there? well, they asked for my soc. sec. number etc. I put it down there and other identifiers. I feel that I always have to consider prejudice and future employment. Other reasons to not devulge my FTM status...some days I just want to be myself and not have to fight a fight. to not have to explain myself or answer questions. Some days my patience for the ignorant is severely limited. Who knows? Lot to ponder. Not that I haven't been here before. I feel that it is a weakness to not stand up and say..."damn right I am FTM and proud of who I am." Maybe that is what is bothering me...I passed up an opportunity to put another one of us on the books...in this state anyway.
Many a time I have come out...many a time. I suppose that is what is bothering me. That I didn't this time.
They did give me a free packet of condoms and I am free of std's.
Funny, FTM's need condoms too.
Ramble.

PwrFemme 05-20-2013 02:47 PM

That's great Linus!!

PwrFemme 05-20-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UUDan (Post 737049)
Hi Folks. This is my first post. I am FTM, and just a little under 2 years on T. I'm ready to jump into the dating pool, but I'm finding the pool to be very shallow. I fully "pass" as a biomale now. To look at me, you'd never know I was born female. Anyway, I am interested in dating women. It doesn't much matter to me what they identify as - femme, lesbian, straight, etc... But since I haven't really dated since adopting my new identity, I wasn't sure if asking a straight woman out would be some sort of "false advertising" so to speak. I kinda thought I was going to be limited to the LGBT community as dating options, but now I am starting to question that. Why should I limit myself? If I am attracted to someone, I'd like to feel OK to ask her out. I'm curious to hear from more experienced transguys on this. Have you asked straight girls out? If so, how/when did you disclose you were trans? What were their reactions?

Peace-



Dan

Dan,

I'm not trans and you didn't ask for thoughts from femmes but I had a thought and decided to share it. When I read your post I thought, "Now if this were a bio male asking a bio female out and he had some certain thing about himself, say that he had a child. Would he disclose this on a date?"

My answer was, "maybe not, maybe he would wait until he felt like something positive was developing between them." I don't know how many dates that would be. And maybe he would feel her out, like ask how she feels about kids, etc.

What I am saying, Dan, is that I don't feel you need to "confess" this information about yourself unless you develop feelings for a woman and want to see if there may be a long lasting relationship, otherwise it's not really her business.

PwrFemme 05-20-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alexri (Post 714878)
I know I'm living a double life. It's draining. I'm myself when I can be, and I'm biologically female when I have to be right now... at work, with family, with friends who don't know. But every now and then I have a public experience that makes me have hope, and makes me see what I'm missing.

While I was out training last weekend, I passed a young girl and her mother on a bike path. I heard the girl say, "he's definitely a boy, but he looks like a girl. He must hate that."

A month ago, in an all women's race, I heard a young boy who was spectating say, "hey there's a guy in the race."

Kids get it before their minds are polluted by society. They question because they want to understand, but they don't judge.

Then, I got "sir'd" at the grocery store last night. I had my hat on, and was looking down, when the cashier said it to me. The glow on my face on the ride home could have lit up NYC.

Now, what I need is courage. The courage to stop thinking of all the "what if's" and go legally change my name. I need the courage this of how to handle this at work, especially knowing I am fully supported by HR. I need the courage to love myself enough to be myself all the time.

Alexri,

This brought to mind people saying, "Oh I knew, I was just waiting for you to tell me." I imagine you will come across haters and you will also have your cheerleaders. You always have. If you look back over your life you will realize this and know that you have always come through and nothing stopped you. It sounds like you are an athlete so I am sure you have learned how to get back up when down and keep on going. You have the strength inside to do this. Those who love you and believe in you will continue to cheer you on and you will forget the names and faces of the haters.

PwrFemme 05-20-2013 03:16 PM

I have a question based on another thread. In the other thread they are discussing marriage titles, basically what a butch is called. HeelBilli and I have been legally married for 2 years. I have always referred to Heel as my spouse. Heel is going to trans and we have now been discussing this title issue. I don't really feel comfortable with the title, "husband". I can't explain why. What are your thoughts? Have any of you faced this situation? Thanks :)

Linus 05-20-2013 03:34 PM

PwrFemme: this thread was meant to be for FTMs to vent and not really meant for conversation or comment, if possible. For your questions, it may be better to go here: http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...hread.php?t=92

PwrFemme 05-20-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 801461)
PwrFemme: this thread was meant to be for FTMs to vent and not really meant for conversation or comment, if possible. For your questions, it may be better to go here: http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...hread.php?t=92

K thanks...

little man 05-20-2013 05:31 PM

for those of you who don't know me, i'm about 10-11 years in on transition. i'm still pre-op, as a long line of shitty paying jobs does not allow much to save for surgery. add to that a lack of health insurance, and well....here i am. i've been living fully as male for almost that entire time. i'm a short guy, and was worried that would be an issue, but it has not been.

being a veteran, i get my labs and T through the VA outpatient clinic. i was a bit wary at first, but everyone has been absolutely wonderful, no issues at all. although, the radiology clinic (outside the VA) was a bit confused when i went for a mammogram. turns out the x-ray tech that did it has a friend who's trans. small world, ain't it?

about 6 yrs ago, i moved back to the midwest from the east coast, to care for my mom. after she died, i hung out for another year, then decided i could pay bills from anywhere. i am possessed of a gypsy soul, so it was about time to hit the road anyway. i moved to the austin,tx area, so i could focus on photography. since there is so much live music here, i was certain i could get myself situated as a photog here. well, there are a few colleges around here that seem to churn out 10 photography students every 5 minutes. and, they'll shoot for free. as it turned out, i fell into shooting burlesque. yeah, i know...tough row to hoe. i'm getting fairly established in that community, and bless their hearts, they are very queer friendly.

i shot a show last week that had several awesome performances. one of them included black light and the pouring of neon paint over the dancer's body. visually stunning. i talked to the woman who did that performance, and we agreed we need to shoot that outside a performance venue. one thing turned into another and we've decided to embark on a project on women's body image, social expectations of women's bodies and their performance as women, as well as rape culture, domestic violence, reproductive rights...a performance coupled with an art show of images. it's an ambitious project, to say the least. we're hoping that attendance will fund the show well enough that we can travel with it, across the US.

all that said, i've been wondering (and weighing) whether "coming out" as trans would be beneficial to the project (and getting the involvement of other performers around the country). i doubt it would be detrimental to the project, but i do wonder about the impact it would have on my life. my ultimate ambition is to produce fine art and spend the rest of my working years doing something i love. for reference, i'm 55 right now, 56 in the fall.

when i first began transition, i was all about disclosing to anyone who'd listen. it was new, it was fabulous, it was a waking dream. now i've had time to settle into it, i mostly want to live my life and be left alone to pursue the things i'm interested in. i have not dated, nor been romantically involved with anyone since i began transition. the last few years, i've felt ready to dip my toe back in that puddle...but haven't really found anyone who sparks my imagination for very long. well, until recently, but we don't live anywhere near one another, and have not actually spent any time together....y'all know how that goes. so, dating/relationship is not a concern.

quite frankly, i'm not sure what approach to take to this. aside from being a private person by nature, i've not wanted being trans to the the first thing people think of when they hear my name.

thoughts?

Turtle 05-20-2013 06:03 PM

Hey little man, nice to see you, so to speak. It sounds like a great project!! I do a lot of my processing out loud...I'd talk it out with my partner in the project to help myself gain some clarity...kinda hearing the different parts as I push them around to get a feel for them and where the pieces might fit...that's me.


And I could definitely dig a traveling show/shoot/project.


And I've been reading "Letters For My Brothers: Transitional Wisdom in Retrospect" editied by Megan M. Rohrer and Zander Keig....it's very nice to get back into my Berkeley days and read old classmates and meet new ones...

...the book is advise from the post-transition perspective...good stuff to know, for everybody.

little man 05-20-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtle (Post 801547)
Hey little man, nice to see you, so to speak. It sounds like a great project!! I do a lot of my processing out loud...I'd talk it out with my partner in the project to help myself gain some clarity...kinda hearing the different parts as I push them around to get a feel for them and where the pieces might fit...that's me.


And I could definitely dig a traveling show/shoot/project.


And I've been reading "Letters For My Brothers: Transitional Wisdom in Retrospect" editied by Megan M. Rohrer and Zander Keig....it's very nice to get back into my Berkeley days and read old classmates and meet new ones...

...the book is advise from the post-transition perspective...good stuff to know, for everybody.

hey, good to see you again, as well.

i appreciate your input, but find myself with the same question. the woman i'm teaming up with for this project has no clue about my status. i don't get the feeling that it'd matter, really, but am still up in the air. would it make life easier or more difficult, i wonder...

Liam 05-21-2013 12:17 AM

Hey little man, nice to hear how things are going for you in Austin. I am guided by my gut, when it comes to "coming out," as a transman. It has worked well for me. I've had some delightful experiences, in situations that I never intended to share that information, and I have not had any negative repercussion from withholding it either. As always, best of luck!

alexri 05-23-2013 07:29 PM

I am thinking more and more about a physical transition.

I have been self-identifying as male for long over a year now. It was something I didn't even think to do. I realize it's been there all along; I just didn't name it/own it.

I've thought about gender issues for many years now; my gender book library/reading/research goes back 10 years to college days. Kate Bornstein was a hero in college. But it never dawned on me that I could be a trans person until last year. It's almost like how it never dawned on me that I could be gay until college and someone talked to me about it. Now this is not me saying that someone else suggested this or dropped the ideas in my head. It was more working out the concepts. It's tied to having a very white, sheltered, catholic school upbringing. I had no idea what homosexuality was until I was 19 and in college. Seriously. I had no idea what trans people were until my late 20s. I just didn't know.

I can look back and see so many patterns and signs that were obvious in my life, but I just didn't know what they meant. I subconsciously shut so many things out, blocked so many thoughts, and now they are all coming back.

Flash back to a child who always played with trucks, legos and balls, and when given dolls, threw them away, or hung them from trees in the back yard. A child who was an outcast on the playground because of a desire to play in the sandbox/playground and not play with dolls or girls. A child who despised makeup, girly stuff, fashions, purses, etc. A child who cried at the though of having to wear a dress. A child who cried when a period started and to this day cringes or cries when it comes close. Someone who has known since a young age that there's no maternal instinct. Someone who was always chosen to play the father/dad in house, because it was right. Someone who wanted to emulate the men in movies and tv, and never the women.

Flash back to someone who covered his bedroom door with pictures of girls he had crushes on (celebrities) and cut up the pictures of the cute girls in the school yearbooks to stare at them. I'm the guy who had pictures of girls hidden under New Kids of the Block posters. As a child I wrote all the hot female celebrities through Teen Beat magazine; when they responded and sent photos, I ripped them up and threw them away because I felt ashamed about the feelings I had.

I can remember sitting in the car with my father, crying, asking him what was wrong with me, and why I wasn't like all the other girls. He had no response. I wonder if he knew. Or if he was denying it himself too.

See someone who spent most of youth alone, without seeing friends, having people over, because I never fit in. I was never invited to sleepovers. All the girls knew I was different. Someone who buried life in textbooks and extracurricular activities to avoid thinking about other things. And then, continued this trait in adult life, with work, food, and later, exercise/races, to avoid dealing with things.

Flash back to someone who had a lot of promiscuous sex with guys as a minor, because, "I was supposed to enjoy this.." "maybe it's just the wrong person..." before realizing I was attracted to women in college, despite having so many crushes and fantasies about girls (in school and on tv) for so long.

I can remember having dreams and fantasies growing up about a guy with no head making love to women. I didn't realize it was me.

I always despised wearing dresses or my school uniform. As soon as I got home from school that uniform skirt came off and was on the floor of my closet it. I hated it. I also wore as long of a skirt as I could, below my knees, to not expose my body. For seven years of grammar school and high school, as far as I can remember, I wore shorts or boxers under my skirt to feel normal. Clothes shopping used to make me cry, especially when I had to dress up for an event like an interview.

In grammar school I can remember being teased by the other girls, being called a lesbian and a tomboy, though I had no idea what it was. I just knew it was something bad because I was being laughed at. We'd be in gym and we'd be changing back into our school uniforms, and I'd take my top right off in front of everyone, not caring, seeing my chest as a chest, until other girls covered my body for me, and told me I needed a bra. I hated that stupid bra.

Once my female body developed, as far back as I can remember, I have always worn baggy, oversized clothing to hide curves and breasts. I've been wearing men's clothing for 20 years. I can remember getting ready for school in high school and just bursting into tears because I hated what I saw in the mirror. And I did the same in my adult life too. I can honestly say I believe I have sclerosis in my back (spine curled forward) because I've spent most of my life subconsciously hiding breasts with bad posture.

My whole life I have cringed and shriveled whenever anyone used works to describe me like "young lady," "beautiful," etc. At a young age, even at the grammar school level, I can recall hating my name. I lived with a nickname for a lot of high school and most of college. I've hated saying my first name at every job I've had when answering the phone, to the point where I really don't say it at all unless I have to. When I have been sired I've been overjoyed.

At the gym, I see the guys there. I don't want them. I want to look like them. I see the females that are in shape, and I don't want to look like them. I imagine what it would be like to have a muscular, flat chest, with pecs, not breasts.

If I had known one could transition, change genders, earlier in life... if I had only known... perhaps I would be more brave than I am now.

I watched a youtube video of a trans man last night talking about trans regret. He said he had lived as a woman for 40 years, and could probably have lived that way for another 40 years, but ultimately wanted to be himself. I've seen the stories of people who did regret transition, but based on what I have read and saw, my gutt tells me they were not trans in the first place, and that something else was going on.

I don't know what to do at this point. I have seen counselors. I have been a part of several local and national trans groups for the past year; meeting with people in person and online. I've talked to people who regretted their transition. I talked to people whose lives have become so much better. I feel so much more at home with these trans groups.

In the past I've gone to lesbian bars and women's clubs/organizations in the past and I never felt comfortable or that I belonged. I've never felt right calling myself a lesbian. I just didn't know what I was yet.

I know the reality of my family. It will never be accepted. They are die-hard, roman catholic, etc. They never accepted me dating women.

I feel stuck. Sometimes I feel like I can keep going like this, like I can keep living in the shell I was born into. I can think of it just being my soul/essence in the wrong body. I think I can manage. Then there are the times that I can understand and appreciate all those that said their life came down to "change or die." I have the speech I would say to my coworkers in my head. I recite it when I run/train. There are days where it does not phase me to use the women's room at work or a restaurant. There are days where I mentally block out the "wo" on the sign. Then there are the days where I absolutely need to go use the gender neutral bathroom at work.

I'm afraid. I'm afraid it's the wrong decision. I fear transitioning will not make me happy. I fear rejection. I fear regret. I hear the stories of friends and trans people denied jobs or housing because of who they are. I understand that when life changes, we lose things, but we often gain so much more. I also see the stories of those who say they are so much better off. I know transitioning is not a magic wand to fix everything wrong with you. I know it's not the end.

I think the best explanation I have heard from someone who transitioned is that in his past life as a female, he felt disconnected, like he was just going through the motions of life, living until the day (as a female) she'd die. I can understand that. There were times of depression, low times, high times. I totally get the feeling of being disconnected, never feeling like I belong in the time and place I am in. That's often how I felt, and how I can still feel now.

I know when people ask you what you want to do for a career, they'll ask you what you'd be doing if money weren't an issue. Then when you have that passion in your head, they say, go after it, figure out how to make it work, and don't settle. I can see the same with transition. If you had a magic wand that would make me transition right now, I'd say yes, absolutely use it. But the reality is that there is no magic wand.

I am just... scared.

Sorry for the long vent. I just know some of you will understand.

Bad_boi 06-05-2013 07:34 PM

Fuck heat. I can't be cool because I can't bind with my injury and have to wear a hoodie or a button down over a T. On top of that the heat messes with my anxiety attacks and makes me miserable.

Fuck the sun go way burn my ass another day.

DapperButch 06-05-2013 08:58 PM

Summer.

Yes, not looking forward to fighting to pull the back of the binder down when the skin is slightly moist. Ugh.

At least the triceps get a good stretch out of it. :|

LoyalWolfsBlade 06-06-2013 03:19 AM

Why is there a space on all medical forms for name preferred to be used if the damn people with degrees can not read it. Seriously I understand my legal name has to be on it for insurance purposes but they do not even have to glance down half a page or anything it is right under the other name. It is their form so they must realize it may be there. Just read the damn thing or do no give me the option to tell you.

Hopefully my new primary care doctor will not have this issue. Guess I will find out in about 12 hours.

GraffitiBoi 06-06-2013 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alexri (Post 803033)
I am just... scared.

Sorry for the long vent. I just know some of you will understand.

Reading your story was like reliving my past, for the most part. I didn't grow up in a Catholic family and I went to public school, but I experienced about 99% of what you described. I started my transition in 2000 when I was 27. I went through three years of therapy before deciding transitioning was right for me. But I was still afraid it was the wrong decision. When I started I was told I would be denied hormones and surgeries if I didn't want to transition 100% to male. I knew then that I didn't want to be 100% male. I did not want lower surgery. So I lied. I was so convincing and got so used to lying about wanting lower surgery that I convinced myself I couldn't be male without it. I even researched lower surgeries and all the available options for it.

In 2003 I changed my name and started on hormones and was excited and happy when the changes finally started showing and I passed almost 100% of the time. In 2007 I was finally able to have top surgery and once again was beyond happy. In 2010 I had a hysterectomy. During this time I did lose some friends and the stress from trying to hide it from my family was almost unbearable. It wasn't until 2 years ago that I finally came out as trans to my entire immediate family. They understood but did not like it. They weren't even surprised. They still insist on calling me 'she' and using my old name when I go home to visit, but they understand that if they come here to visit me it's by my rules.

Over the years I struggled with the thought of lower surgery. Deep down I knew I didn't want it. Deep down I knew I was closer to Trans Masculine or Gender Queer. I like looking male and having a male chest. So I went back to therapy. This time I had a therapist who understood and got me to understand that I am not any less of a man because I don't want a penis. She got me to understand that it's not the physical that makes me who I am. It's how I feel inside. She is still trying to get me to believe that there is a woman/femme out there who will accept me as I am. As half and half. I meet and date women who say they understand and accept me for who I am, but inevitably they leave, stating I am not lesbian enough or male enough or, yes, even trans enough. One even went so far as to try and force me into going back to being female in appearance. I currently have two crushes but am so afraid to pursue anything beyond where they are at right now because I fear the rejection I have come to expect. Too many women have been with me for 'the story' or the novelty of telling their friends they slept with an FtM.

I have been very lucky that I have not had much discrimination in the workplace since moving to Minneapolis. Everyone seems very accepting here. I had one doctor who wouldn't treat me, but she explained it was because she had no experience with the medical needs of transgender patients and she gave me the name of a colleague who did have the experience. She wanted me to have the best care possible. To this day I have total respect for her.

It's a long, bumpy road. Some of it will be fantastic and some will be filled with potholes. All I can say is it's a road worth traveling and nothing is ever set in stone. I wish you the best on your journey.

DapperButch 06-16-2013 05:50 PM

Vent..
 
How many things do all of us get frustrated with but don't talk about, because it is just a part of our daily life?

Case in point, I hate that I have to wear a sprots bra when I work out. Sure, I don't HAVE to, but if I want to breathe well and do a decent workout, I have to take off the binder.

I hate this. I had seeing myself in the gym mirror as I am lifting weights.

Anyone else struggle with this?

alexri 06-16-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 812060)
Case in point, I hate that I have to wear a sprots bra when I work out. Sure, I don't HAVE to, but if I want to breathe well and do a decent workout, I have to take off the binder.

I hate this. I had seeing myself in the gym mirror as I am lifting weights.

Anyone else struggle with this?

Yes. I totally understand this. I hate having to wear a sports bra but it holds the you know whats down the best for the gym. I also hate wearing white tech shirts because of the outline they can show. I hate seeing race photos where the photographer thinks he/she is doing me a favor by catching curves. I have to fight with some races to get them to give me the men's/unisex tech shirt instead of assigning me a women's cut shirt. The most comfortable thing I have found is to wear dark colored tech shirts.

I hate going into the women's locker room too.

Kent 06-16-2013 06:24 PM

FtM place to vent and talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alexri (Post 812068)
Yes. I totally understand this. I hate having to wear a sports bra but it holds the you know whats down the best for the gym. I also hate wearing white tech shirts because of the outline they can show. I hate seeing race photos where the photographer thinks he/she is doing me a favor by catching curves. I have to fight with some races to get them to give me the men's/unisex tech shirt instead of assigning me a women's cut shirt. The most comfortable thing I have found is to wear dark colored tech shirts.

I hate going into the women's locker room too.

Yeah, guys.. I have the same problem as I'm pre-op too. I quit going to the gym because my dysphoria was so great and I became depressed. Now, I have gained 40 damn pounds. I'm going to join a small one owner gym here and get some personal training and start eating clean again and take this weight off. Once I lose about 20 pounds I'll join this other rehab/gym that has an Olympic size swimming pool and swim laps to work off the other 20 pounds and slim down. The weight gain has only made my dysphoria worse. You guys keep working out and don't let yourselves go like I did.

I understand everything you two are saying Alex and Dapper. I suffer from having these large chesticles and I cannot wait to get rid of them. Just know that you are not alone and we are all in this together. Ain't none of us gettin' out alive. Hang in there guys. :heavyweight:

LoyalWolfsBlade 06-16-2013 07:46 PM

Yeah I have the same problem well almost. Mine is when I have to wear a sports bra to work instead of my binder. Binders are extremely expensive so at the moment I only have one. Unfortunately I must have bought the wrong kind because it doesn't really work and my job is a physical one so I have to wear the sports bras I have. I absolutely hate it. My dysphoria is bad enough when I wear a baggy shirt but when I am in my work clothes and get a glimpse of me most times I feel literally ill from it.

On the bright side I did tell my boss last week I would be transitioning and starting the process in a month. She was cool with everything, even me using the men's bathroom. I have at least a year to go before I can even think about top surgery but I do get my t without a letter so there is that. Hopefully it will help with my dysphoria some.

RNguy 06-17-2013 05:21 PM

:) I'm post op top surgery and have started T once again. T hasn't reacted favorably for me in the past , in the sence that it caused my heart to go into rapid atrial fibrillation. Several weeks of being off the T , my heart rythm converted back to sinus tach which is normal for me so , its been many years later and ive started again so fingers crossed for me .
I can sympathize greatly with society rejections , snide remarks for all who have dealt with or are dealing with .
I'm born and raised in the heart of Appalachia . I still live in a rural location of Appalachia and well bi, gay , trans etc... are not well recieved to say the least .
Many months back I was at work , and a new critical care intensivist who made it clear that he has no tolerance for the " queers " asked who was taking care of his patient . My coworker stated Blake is over there . His retort to her was " get him, her , well IT over here now .
This Dr. Is no longer at that hospital and was from Pakistan or Libya , I forget .
I did hear him make this comment loud and clear as well as my coworkers , a social worker , an IT guy and two respiratory therapists .
The most awesome thing was that all of these people were sooo upset and felt hurt for me !!!! It totally affected my peers , as for me I laughed . I had a great shift so I was able to laugh but everyone was sad , and angry which was awesome.
So the head critical care director / doc finds me several days later , as by now , this has spread hospital wide and pulls me away and says " did that son of a bitch really call you an IT dude "? I laughed and said yep . He said " are you ok , do you want me to f?+&$?+ deal with him "? I said nope , its cool but dang thanks for asking . He said " what did you say " ?
I said nothin , honestly man, I was having a great day so I wasn't fazed and hear that shit all the time however if I had a crappy day and it was on the wrong day I would surely go off and say something . He laughed and said " dude what would you say "?
I said well I would say this isnt the bunker of anti-American , anti gay, anti woman's rights terrorist Taliban so you can't treat people this way here you son of a b?+&%.
:)
The director said Blake , if he ever , and I mean ever so much as looks at you snide , you say as you wish and you will not be in trouble in the least :).
Keep your heads up trans folks , thought id share that one

RNguy 06-17-2013 05:51 PM

I'm sitting here reading all these posts and am laying down laughing , and after nearly every read post I'm thinking " amen to that ", " yep been there too many times "," geez, we are all going through or have been through a lot of the same stuff here ", wow what that post said is sad , true , is funny now but it wasn't at the time " :)
I'm surely going to keep reading and posting here when I can more often.
Nice
Peace and love trans brothers

ahk 06-17-2013 06:10 PM

I wear a binder when I go to the gym. Screw the sports bra crap--. I don't wear the tightest binder that have, I wear the one that still holds me in but that is loose enough that I can breathe.

and the heat-- screw that shit. LOL.


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