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Hollylane 02-23-2013 03:50 PM


For the love of dogs...

I may, or may not have just set an alarm on my phone for when they are open for business again (12am EST Tuesday). The Crunkberry sounds perfect, as do some of the many other flavors in your sample pack.

Question:
Do you change the wicked type cartomizer out, when rinsing and changing flavors? These are about $4 apiece, so that could get expensive with trying different flavors out.

Hollylane 02-23-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie (Post 754960)
I just purchased some liquids from Ecblend. My friend who got me into this is also getting some to save her the shipping. They should be here next week. I am trying a small bottle of 100% VG juice so we shall see if this helps me with the DRY mouth. I also got a small bottle of 40%PG - 60%VG. Thought I'd start small and see... My friend also got two new flavors to try.

Thanks for the tips peeps!!

It may just be me, but the 100% pg made my mouth less dry than the 70/30. I'm going to keep vaping and see what happens. Everything that just came in from HHV is 70/30.

Strappie 02-23-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 754974)


It may just be me, but the 100% pg made my mouth less dry than the 70/30. I'm going to keep vaping and see what happens. Everything that just came in from HHV is 70/30.

It's the HIGH PG that everyone and some researching says is giving me DRY mouth... so I'm trying the LOWER PG and a HIGHER VG... so we shall see.

LaDivina 02-23-2013 07:43 PM

LOL we just went and did Dusa's "dot test" for every flavor we haven't vaped yet. So far we like tangerine, creamsicle, blackberry brandy, and keoke rum coffee. I also liked my peppermint with a shot of chocolate. So many samples, so few atomizers!

girl_dee 02-23-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 754963)
I am so crazy about vaping that I am going to put together a vape basket for the Reunion in September. Juices and probably an ego-C or a Kanger. I want everyone to quit smoking! :praying:


i can't wait to see everyone sitting outside in the sun having a break and vaping away......

Medusa 02-23-2013 09:13 PM

Does anyone here use a drip tip?

I am about to order a couple for Jack and I and it seems like it would be much easier to change flavors.

Update: I have been vaping AiV's "Lemon Loves Cake" for about an hour now and really love the lightness of the juice. People had talked about how subtle the flavors were and not to be surprised if at first you feel like you can't taste any flavor. I was kinda concerned but after vaping this for a while, I can say that Alice's verbiage about "letting the pallet of the tongue cool down between inhales" wasn't just bullshit. It's like the lightness of the flavor has let the flavor "build" instead of "deflate" over the last hour. Like, have you gotten ahold of a flavor yet that was so saturated in your mouth that you quit tasting it after a while? This juice doesn't do that: it's like it gets better with ever hit!!

Y'all just don't know how excited I am about seeing a line of vapers at Reunion this year and about maybe converting someone else to vaping if they win the basket of goodies I'm going to put together.

At a pack a day for the last 60 days, I estimate that I have saved well over $300. I am also sleeping better, snoring less, and not coughing anymore in the mornings :)

daisygirl 02-23-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 755249)
Does anyone here use a drip tip?

I am about to order a couple for Jack and I and it seems like it would be much easier to change flavors.

A drip tip on its own is just a piece of plastic. It won't do anything as far as flavor changes go as it's just the portion you inhale through. Think of it as the straw in a drink, it's just for assisting in the actual process. You do, however, need them to drip.

If you're thinking about having him actually *drip* you'll need at least 2 atomizers, and yes, it's easier to change out flavors as you can sort of blow them out between flavors, plus, unless you flood it, once you vape a few drops, the coil inside pretty much cleans itself.

If you want to rinse them out, they can be quickly rinsed in *distilled* water. Don't use tap water on your e-cig parts ever - even if it's been through a brita - it needs to be distilled to prevent corrosion. It's also super cheap so that should help - you won't need it for anything other than cleaning stuff or adding one or two drops to a liquid to thin it (and i literally mean 1 or 2 drops, someone i know ruined a juice by running it under the tap). You can also use Vodka for this process if you have it on hand, apparently it's great at cleaning out stuff with no taste left behind - please don't mistake this for rubbing alcohol which could be toxic - pure ol' Vodka (cheap is ok) is the best in this situation!

So - if you mean atties, yes, quick flavor change is possible when dripping, but you're only dripping 3-4 drops at a time so it's not as simple as regular vaping - you have to sort of pay attention to what you're doing.

Drip tips, by themselves, are great to use on cartos, and of course tanks and vivi's and any other removable tip unit (unless it's a ce and those require special screw on drip tips but they can be found, i have some).

If none of that made sense, or you want more advice, dripping is actually my favorite way to vape and I've been doing it for a year now and there are different atties (510s, 306s) and they all come in regular, lr and hr so if i knew a little more, i could help a little more :)

daisygirl 02-24-2013 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 754970)


Question:
Do you change the wicked type cartomizer out, when rinsing and changing flavors? These are about $4 apiece, so that could get expensive with trying different flavors out.

Answer:
Nope. Just rinse the whole lot of it in *distilled* water which you can get at any drug store or walmart, etc. (you never want to use tap water in e-cig parts because it can cause bits to corrode). Just swish out the wicks till they're clear, making sure not to tug on them, until they are clear. Rinsing the rest is simple. When drying the wicks, just press them gently between a couple pieces of paper towel or kleenex - again, being careful not to tug on them.

You'll get good at it fast - the whole process doesn't usually take me more than 30 seconds, but i tend to do them in batches of a few at a time - i figure if i'm gonna clean one, i may as well clean a few if i can wait to do it.

-daisy

Rockinonahigh 02-24-2013 02:43 AM

Last week my son bought a Blu system,I gotta have one,but it only has 6 or 7 flavors.I wanted hot cinnamon or something liek hot dam or atomic fireball but they dont have any...will keep looking.

LaDivina 02-24-2013 02:01 PM

I've been vaping peppermint with a chocolate shot (ECBlends) since last night and I really like it. I think I added a "cool" shot, too, so there's a really nice brisk feel to it. Yum!

Strappie 02-24-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 755249)
Does anyone here use a drip tip?

I am about to order a couple for Jack and I and it seems like it would be much easier to change flavors.

I use only these tips... I've tried a couple others but always go back to these.
Just don't loose the rubber ring. Sometimes they are tight to unscrew and pull out.

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f1j0...learomizer.jpg

daisygirl 02-24-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 755416)
Last week my son bought a Blu system,I gotta have one,but it only has 6 or 7 flavors.I wanted hot cinnamon or something liek hot dam or atomic fireball but they dont have any...will keep looking.

You can get an inexpensive 510 kit from many retailers that will allow you to use any flavor you want. It'll be cheaper than the blu set up and you're not stuck buying their expensive flavors. I'm gonna give you a couple links really quick - not saying you have to go these places and in fact i'm just gonna look at prices and how good the starting setup is for you (brief typing pause to go search!)

Nice inexpensive kit ($17.99), requires you to push a button so it's a "Manual" kit. Manual button units (99% of the non-store brand units) are nice because you can drip on them in addition to using cartomizers. http://www.free-cigs.com/510-M-Starter-Kit-_p_170.html

Same company, same kit ($29.99 because they're not purchased as much) except it's automatic (no button) only problem here is being cautious that you don't get juice into the battery, but are more like a blu because there's no button. http://www.free-cigs.com/510-A-Starter-Kit-_p_169.html

This one is an "ego twist" style kit. It's either $69.99 or $75.99 depending on battery, and if you can afford it you'd want the higher one) You also get these flavored (only 1 choice though for all 5 cartos) and at different nic levels. I'd go with blanks and choose your own juice. There aren't many on this site, but i'm sure any of the veteran vapers can point you to good sites for juice :) Getting blanks will also give you the chance to try up to 5 flavors instead of just the 1 that it would come with automatically. With this one you can use tanks, clearos, cartomizers (like with the blue) and it allows you to change voltage. This isn't a hugely important feature if you're new to vaping, but it'd be nice to know you already have it once you've taken the baby steps and are ready to move on a little - and you won't have to buy something else. This will be a manual - after you leave the little 510's (like the blu) you'll find that most everything is manual - which also helps save battery power by the way. http://www.vapow.com/Joye_Ego_C_Twis...k_p/jy-skb.htm

All 3 kits are good. The manuals also have a "5 click" on/off feature that allows you to turn them off to save battery power. With an automatic, there's constant contact with no "breaker (aka manual button)" to cut the power when you're not using it. The first two are super cheap and would be great starters, but the ego, for the cost is going to be close to if not less than a blu set up.

The reason you don't see any super hot cinnamon flavors is because they're what's known as "tank busters" They pretty much have to be only used in a glass tank or cartomizer because they'll destroy pretty much everything else. The GOOD news is, there are tons of websites that offer red hot cinnamon flavors and you can use them in your cartomizers that come with your kit.

No matter what kit you get, make sure you buy extra cartomizers (all 3 types) or tanks/clearos/vivis (ego and up only).

If you have questions (i know that was a ton of info in a little space) please feel free to contact me, i'm always glad to help someone set up and i can help you set up completely within any budget that's at least $40!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie (Post 755741)
I use only these tips... I've tried a couple others but always go back to these.
Just don't loose the rubber ring. Sometimes they are tight to unscrew and pull out.

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f1j0...learomizer.jpg

If you're having issues getting your drip tips off whatever they're attached to, just put a drop of liquid where the tip reaches the attached unit, let it slip in there and that should lube up the ring enough to slip the drip tip off pretty easily :) The reason to use juice and not water or whatever else you might try, is that it's slick due to the glycerins in the juice!

GL!

-daisy

Hollylane 02-24-2013 11:57 PM

Tonight, I'm vaping "Powder Keg", from HHV. It is pure sweet Almond Joy on the inhale, and a little peppery on the exhale. I like it that way. I bet if I let it steep longer, it would be pure Almond Joy.

daisygirl 02-25-2013 03:49 PM

The 510 automatic kit that I recently recommended has dropped in price to 17.99, same price as the manual. http://www.free-cigs.com/510-A-Starter-Kit-_p_169.html I actually own this kit and use it to test flavors before I put the liquid into a more expensive tank or carto.

I use the tank atties which come with the t 510x kit. I use this unit as well, probably more and it's also an automatic (no button to push) - I got it for the same sale price. This one also has a cute little gem on each one on the *lit* end that changes between 7 colors - I *am* a total girlie girl, lol! This kit is only $23.99 right now and can also be used with other 510 items, not just the little tanks it comes with. It also has a bigger battery which is great for a little battery 2-3 hours of chain vaping. It's nice to have one charging with on in use. https://free-cigs.3dcartstores.com/5...it-_p_172.html

Just so everyone knows, I'm suggesting these three kits from th same vendor not because I get anything out of it - just the knowledge I've helped someone starting out find good equipment.

-daisy

uncommondialogue 02-25-2013 11:46 PM

Fluids
 
I have the Totally Wicked Tornado Tank in lovely "titty pink"...does anyone know if you can put other manufacturers' fluids in this system?????

Also, I noticed on nomorerack.com they have a sale on e-cigs for only $8 and they last 600 puffs. Looking to buy some of those in March and will let y'all know if any good.

New to the e-cig world but the flavors I've tried so far are quite good for this system.

Loren_Q 02-26-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncommondialogue (Post 757056)
I have the Totally Wicked Tornado Tank in lovely "titty pink"...does anyone know if you can put other manufacturers' fluids in this system?????

I'm positive your equipment will take any vendor's e-juice. I don't think any vendor can manufacture a limit; it's all similar hardware (battery, atomizer, cartridge/carto/clearo).

There's a lot of posts mentioned flavors and where folks buy juice.

Welcome to vaping!

meridiantoo 02-26-2013 03:16 PM

I am totally new to this....and I have questions as I am doing internet searches on the topic:

1) Do the flavors contain nicotine? And if not, I see there is liquid nicotine available - Do you just add this to your flavor or do you use nicotine by itself?

2) Is the difference between a manual and automatic that the manual one only works when you press a button and therefore you waste less liquid than with an automatic one that doesn't shut off - same as a burning cigarette?

3) What do you guys recommend for a first time user - auto or manual and disposable or ?

Thanks for this thread!

daisygirl 02-26-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 757333)
I am totally new to this....and I have questions as I am doing internet searches on the topic:

1) Do the flavors contain nicotine? And if not, I see there is liquid nicotine available - Do you just add this to your flavor or do you use nicotine by itself?

2) Is the difference between a manual and automatic that the manual one only works when you press a button and therefore you waste less liquid than with an automatic one that doesn't shut off - same as a burning cigarette?

3) What do you guys recommend for a first time user - auto or manual and disposable or ?

Thanks for this thread!

Yes, the liquids/juices come with the nicotine in them, generally between 8 and 36m of liquid. Most commonly 12, 18, 24 mg strengths. You do NOT want to be touching liquid nicotine if you are new to this. It's there for people who've gotten the hang of things, are ok handling what they're vaping, and are prepared to blend nicotine flavorings (not the same as juices) and lab strength nicotine.

Aside from that, check my post a few up and you'll see my recommendations for a new user :) It breaks down 3 kits that are good for new users, as well as another kit from the same site as two from the first post a couple posts later!

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me :)

-daisy

uncommondialogue 02-26-2013 03:38 PM

So many choices...EEEEk
 
Dang, I never would've imagined there are so many varied products to vape. thanks to all who give info here. What the heck is a drip tip? And do they fir all brands of e-cigs?

Loren_Q 02-26-2013 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncommondialogue (Post 757360)
Dang, I never would've imagined there are so many varied products to vape. thanks to all who give info here. What the heck is a drip tip? And do they fir all brands of e-cigs?

I'm sure daisygirl can answer this better than I could, but here's what I've been able to gather while researching and vaping.

So short answer to your question: Depends on what type of e-cig setup you have.

Drip tips are used on cigs where you drip directly on to the atomizer (atty).

Okay, now what the blazes does that mean?

E-cigs are made of 2 (or 3) components, providing a few different e-liquid delivery methods.

The primary component is the battery. This is that automatic, manual, variable voltage thing. And batteries have threads that fit/screw into the next component (That's where you hear the 510, 808 stuff).

The next component is the atomizer - this heats the liquid to make the vapor. Its this + the e-liquid delivery that confused the hell out me.

The atomizer can be stand alone with a drip tip on it (so you drip a couple of drops on the atomizer) and vaporize the liquid directly. The drip tip is the mouthpiece

I've also seen atomizers that 'spike' into a cartridge that holds liquid, The exposed end of the cartridge is the mouthpiece.

Then there's the systems that combine the atomizer with a tank or cartridge that holds the e-liquid. In this, the atomizer does NOT stand alone.

I've seen the cartridges called cartomizers or cleromizers. The common thing with these is you put the liquid in the tank/carto/clearo.

I don't know if this helped or made it more confusing.

Loren

Hollylane 02-26-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 754957)
Preface: These are only my opinions and I don't mean to come off like a fan-girl for AiV but dammit! Oh, and this post might end up costing you a lot of money. Sorry. You'll thank me later.

Y'all - I have read a LOT of posts about Alice in Vapeland over on Facebook, Twitter, the e-cig forums and have even seen review vids on Youtube hyping this company as one of the most amazing juice experiences ever. Needless to say, I was curious.

I placed an order back on January 30th. (all of my juice is 0 nic) I knew going in that the wait time would be massive because this company has apparently become so popular in the last 9 months that orders are taking like 3 weeks to get to people AND they are having to shut their website down for ordering almost 5 days out of the week in order to catch up. They are trying to remedy this by hiring more people but it was a very small 2-person operation up until about a month ago.

I received my order yesterday and was delighted to see this box:

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...psd9c446fe.jpg

Now, another preface is that I am a sucker for good marketing and these folks definitely believe in putting time into their presentation. Another thing to mention is that their flavors are pretty renowned for being "artisanal" and "different". Lots of tea-based flavors and lots of nice citrus.

I ordered the "Little Bit of Everything" sampler which gives you 15 tiny little 5ml bottles of every flavor they have.

When I opened the box, I was greeted with this:

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...psd4d93d19.jpg

And YES, I love the little Alice-themed playing cards and personalized message. On the back of the message is a receipt for my purchase, order number, and a phone number to call for questions.

Under the receipt was this. BEHOLD:

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...psf814dce3.jpg


As far as the flavors, I usually do a "dot test" on the back of my hand and taste a dot of the juice before I vape it to get a good idea of what to expect. They all tasted pretty amazing except for "White Rabbit" which had a peppery taste. I know this is not a litmus test since these flavors are meant to be vaped and not drank but I was surely tempted to turn up the bottles and squeeze each one into my mouth, they were that good.

Another preface is that AiV juices are much "lighter" in flavor than other juice. This is not a bad thing. Your mouth doesn't get overwhelmed with a saccharin sweet film of flavor and you actually enjoy each vape as a delicacy. Think of it as the difference between a ribeye steak perfectly cooked so that it needs no sauce and a deep-fried monstrosity covered in every sickening condiment known to man so that the flavor is overwhelming and thus, imperceptible.

"Lemon Loves Cake" is an amazing blend of light, buttery poundcake with a custardy lemon undertone. And it's not the nasty, Lysol-tasting lemon that I've encountered with other vendors. It's muted. It is airy and delightful and I will definitely be ordering another bottle (a HUGE ONE!) of this!

"Black and White Cookie" - If you want to vape an Oreo cookie, vape this! This is a rich, chocolately/vanilla blend with a nice cookie biscuit undertone. Probably the best chocolate flavor I have ever vaped. A huge bottle of this will be ordered!

"Cupcake City" - Holy Buttery Homemade Cupcakes, Vapeman! This made me think of giant, fluffy french vanilla cupcakes coated with whipped buttercream. Super delicious! WANT. MORE.

"Cherry Blossom" - Cherries and something mildly floral. NOT perfume-floral, but floral in the way of inhaling a nice jasmine or honeysuckle. Mouthwatering and divine!

"Bandersnatch" - I'm a banana hound and this definitely satisfies! There is a light coffee and caramel undertone and a hint of black tea. It is a smoooooooothe and delicate flavor and intensely relaxing. Reminds me of curling up with a flannel blanket on a cold night.

"Mystic Mandalime" - This was apparently a customer contest winner. It is definitely a mix of lime, mandarine orange, tea, and cream. Lemony and subtle and super good after a heavy meal.

"Zombie Apocalypse" - FUCKNG YUM. If an Oreo milkshake had a strawberry afterburn, this would be it. The fruitiness of this is not that overpowering fruit of other juices, it's a "we made you a cupcake and misted it with strawberry juice" kinda thing. DELICIOUS!

"Frost Blossom" - A chocolate orange meets mint. You might think this won't be awesome. You'd be WRONG. This is winter morning meets orange groves in Florida. Very good!

"Creamsicle" - Remember those Creamsicle popsicles that had the white creamy middle from when you were a kid? This is it. DELISH!

"Crunkberry" - Captain Crunchberry on a cupcake with a side of cream. Very layered in flavor and GOOD!

"Sweet Tease" - A definitive tea flavor that they should have named "Southern Sweet Tea" because that's what it reminds me of. There is a nice juicy lemon garnish on the glass too! ORDERING MORE!

"Afternoon Tea" - I wanted to turn this up and drink this. Think of a high-quality Earl Grey with cream and the tiniest hint of pekoe. YUMMY.

"Twas Brillig" - If you had a nice cup of tea and a hot piece of blackberry crumb cake on the side and the hot aroma steam combined right under your nose? This would be it. A-MAZ-ING and unique. Want More!

"A Quiet Morning" - I saw a lot of hype about this one and now I know why. Green tea with honey and a soft fruity flavor - maybe mango? Something a tiny bit tropical. Probably going to become a daily vape for me.

"White Rabbit" - I can't describe this flavor except to say there is something dark about it - Maybe cappuccino or coffee or really dark tea but also a buttery blend with hazelnut overtones. It's very good.


Yes, I tested all of these since last night. YES, they are all very good. YES, I will probably go broke buying from these people. By far, this company has offered some of the most complex and interesting flavors I have vaped yet. The attention to detail and packaging is a huge bonus.
I will be waiting with baited breath for them to open the website up to ordering on Wednesday so I can get my fix.

Afterword: Taste is subjective. These are only my opinions. Have your pets spayed or neutered. ^^--Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I just saw this! I don't know why I didn't notice it the other six times :|


I'm taking your word for it, and if I get in tonight, and am able to order, I'm ordering the giant bottles of Black and White Cookie, and A Quiet Morning. Wish me luck! I'm watching the clock like a hawk, and I'm refreshing the screen now and then to make sure I don't miss an early opening!!

Hollylane 02-26-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 757719)

I'm taking your word for it, and if I get in tonight, and am able to order, I'm ordering the giant bottles of Black and White Cookie, and A Quiet Morning. Wish me luck! I'm watching the clock like a hawk, and I'm refreshing the screen now and then to make sure I don't miss an early opening!!

SUCCESS!!!!!

uncommondialogue 02-27-2013 12:42 PM

VG-PG
 
What does the rating for VG-PG mean? I have gone to sites for juices and it has options for different numbers for the VG-PG and no idea what this means. Help?

Loren_Q 02-27-2013 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncommondialogue (Post 758021)
What does the rating for VG-PG mean? I have gone to sites for juices and it has options for different numbers for the VG-PG and no idea what this means. Help?

I think there are posts in this thread with the info, but here's a short sweet version:
PG is propylene glycol, VG is vegetable glycerin.

PG is great for throat hit and a better flavor carrier; VG is great for vapor and is thicker. Some folks can't handle PG so there's also 100% VG juice.

Since I'm more into throat hit and flavor, I use a 60/40 or 70/30 pg/vg mix.

meridiantoo 03-02-2013 12:48 PM

Buying my first ecig
 
How long does 1 cartomizer last for a manual ecig?

And if you get the nicotine one, how do you decipher what mg. to purchase? They have from 4mg to 36mg. When I researched the nicotine content of my particular brand of cigarette, it was only 1.1. So that means the 4mg would be enough, right? or no?

:thinking:

meridiantoo 03-02-2013 01:44 PM

Still reading this thread and looking up info on this topic
 
Okay, so I think I'm ordering this ecig from http://www.vapor4life.com/ (randomly selected site):

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...psc225a473.jpg

My question is, do I need a tip or anything else to go with this? Or just the ecig, charger, cartomizers, battery, and carrying case?

Thanks for your help!

Loren_Q 03-03-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 759762)
How long does 1 cartomizer last for a manual ecig?

And if you get the nicotine one, how do you decipher what mg. to purchase? They have from 4mg to 36mg. When I researched the nicotine content of my particular brand of cigarette, it was only 1.1. So that means the 4mg would be enough, right? or no?

:thinking:

The first question is kinda hard to answer because it depends on how long you draw, how often, etc. When I used pre-filled cartos I would say 1 would last a day. I now use fillable cartos, so I top off as needed and a single carto with a specific flavor lasts 3 to 5 days.

If you're smoking lights, you might want to start out low nic. I vary from 0mg to 12mg. I mostly use 0 and 6/8mg with 1 12mg juice for those times where my brain really seems to need the nic.

This is all my personal experience, YMMV.

Loren_Q 03-03-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 759784)
Okay, so I think I'm ordering this ecig from http://www.vapor4life.com/ (randomly selected site):

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...psc225a473.jpg

My question is, do I need a tip or anything else to go with this? Or just the ecig, charger, cartomizers, battery, and carrying case?

Thanks for your help!

I think any site will have a 'starter kit' with various options. You would need to determine how long you want the battery to last and what you want as a liquid container (tank, carto, clearo, etc).

If there's a vape store near you I would go there. They would have equipment, answers and appropriate recommendations.

You could also go check out the e-cigarette forum or nu-vapor forum, those are dedicated to vaping with a ton of info for newbies.

daisygirl 03-03-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 759784)
Okay, so I think I'm ordering this ecig from http://www.vapor4life.com/ (randomly selected site):

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/...psc225a473.jpg

My question is, do I need a tip or anything else to go with this? Or just the ecig, charger, cartomizers, battery, and carrying case?

Thanks for your help!

Vapor4life is a ripoff site. They push their products and charge a lot for what they sell. If you scroll back a page or two you'll see my suggestions for good starter kits and an explanation of all of them for under $20! In the second post, i listed that the automatic kit had dropped down to the price of a manual and then an even better kit for only $24.

As far as nic goes, you'll probably want to start at at *least* 12 mg, even if you smoke lights, the nicotine in an ecig is not as strong as that inhaled in a traditional cig. I smoked normal strength cigs and had to start at 24 mg, but that's just me. I went down to 18 a few months ago (I've been vaping a year as of Feb) and now i vape between 12-18 mg.

If you don't have enough nic to satisfy you, you'll find yourself vaping a lot more often and going through more cartos and juice than you really need to.

If you need any help, I'd be glad to assist - but before you invest at V4L, check out the kits i posted a couple pages back. I wrote an original post, then an update a couple posts later about a really good starter kit that went on sale. I picked that site because I've used their products - I'm not in any way connected to them.

You don't want to go with just a randomly selected site or you may find yourself trapped in a VERY expensive system that would cost you very little otherwise. It's great that they have all the guarantees, etc. But every site will honor manufacturers' warranties and i just hate seeing people order from a rip off place.

GL :)

-daisy

meridiantoo 03-03-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisygirl (Post 760852)
Vapor4life is a ripoff site. They push their products and charge a lot for what they sell. If you scroll back a page or two you'll see my suggestions for good starter kits and an explanation of all of them for under $20! In the second post, i listed that the automatic kit had dropped down to the price of a manual and then an even better kit for only $24.

As far as nic goes, you'll probably want to start at at *least* 12 mg, even if you smoke lights, the nicotine in an ecig is not as strong as that inhaled in a traditional cig. I smoked normal strength cigs and had to start at 24 mg, but that's just me. I went down to 18 a few months ago (I've been vaping a year as of Feb) and now i vape between 12-18 mg.

If you don't have enough nic to satisfy you, you'll find yourself vaping a lot more often and going through more cartos and juice than you really need to.

If you need any help, I'd be glad to assist - but before you invest at V4L, check out the kits i posted a couple pages back. I wrote an original post, then an update a couple posts later about a really good starter kit that went on sale. I picked that site because I've used their products - I'm not in any way connected to them.

You don't want to go with just a randomly selected site or you may find yourself trapped in a VERY expensive system that would cost you very little otherwise. It's great that they have all the guarantees, etc. But every site will honor manufacturers' warranties and i just hate seeing people order from a rip off place.

GL :)

-daisy

Thank you so much for replying and telling me all this!

I went to your link for the 510x kit, but it is sold out. However, the 510 M Starter Kit is still for sale, so I am looking at that one.

I also visited the Alice in Vapeland site, but it is down until Tuesday night.

I appreciate your help.

meridiantoo 03-03-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren_Q (Post 760849)
I think any site will have a 'starter kit' with various options. You would need to determine how long you want the battery to last and what you want as a liquid container (tank, carto, clearo, etc).

If there's a vape store near you I would go there. They would have equipment, answers and appropriate recommendations.

You could also go check out the e-cigarette forum or nu-vapor forum, those are dedicated to vaping with a ton of info for newbies.

The nu-vapor forum was very helpful. Thank you so much!

:flowers:

meridiantoo 03-04-2013 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 754936)
You are going to LOVE that Dragon's Blood from ECBlend but I found that I had to let mine steep for about a week before it was truly melded.

Y'all - I am glad to say that I am 52 days without nicotine of any kind. Jackhammer is almost that long without snus. I have only had a few noticeable cravings and I think they were more of the "habit" cravings than the physical craving.
For example, I was on the phone with June the other night and had an overwhelming urge to go out on the deck and do a deep inhale while we processed. This was more about "my routine" of talking to Juney on the phone and smoking the whole time than an actual physical need for nicotine. I overcame it by talking about it and inhaling some Cinful Pear from HHV.

I am going to make another post about the order I received yesterday from Alice in Vapeland. It was, in short, INSPIRING.

Okay, I am about to purchase my first e-cig and am very excited :cheesy: but also very nervous :nailbitin: !

My three questions are:

1) Do you experience withdrawals at all when switching to the e-cig if you have nicotine juice? I will be starting with 24mg.

2) Are cartomizers refillable? Like all of them? No matter what brand/model of e-cig you have (other than disposables)?

3) While I understand the concept of steeping, I don't quite understand what this means? Do I steep every bottle of juice I get? Or only if I mix them? What do I do exactly to steep the liquid?

Thanks for your help!

daisygirl 03-04-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 761053)
Okay, I am about to purchase my first e-cig and am very excited :cheesy: but also very nervous :nailbitin: !

My three questions are:

1) Do you experience withdrawals at all when switching to the e-cig if you have nicotine juice? I will be starting with 24mg.

2) Are cartomizers refillable? Like all of them? No matter what brand/model of e-cig you have (other than disposables)?

3) While I understand the concept of steeping, I don't quite understand what this means? Do I steep every bottle of juice I get? Or only if I mix them? What do I do exactly to steep the liquid?

Thanks for your help!

Hi :)

Q1 - with 24 mg liquid you should be fine. I didn't have any withdrawal symptoms, i just reached for my e-cig when i had the craving (like i would have with a regular cig).

Q2 - Yes, they're all refillable but will eventually gunk up and wear out so try to keep a couple of spares on hand. You may also find it more comfortable vaping if you remove the rubber plug from the mouthpiece and use a drip tip in its place. It doesn't hold more liquid but it's more like having a filter on a ciggie, especially when you get the occasional bit of liquid that comes out of the top (ie if you overfill it) and a drip tip will help keep that out of your mouth (it's icky).

Q3 - Steeping simply allows all the ingredients in an ecig juice or liquid (whatever you want to call it) time to meld. There are some flavors that you can vape instantly and some that take a bit longer - and that's personal preference in most cases. The more complex the flavor, the more time it may need to steep, and almost all tobacco flavored juices need steeping time. You can steep by either leaving your juice in a dark drawer or cupboard, or - if you want to speed up the process - you can run a super hot sink and float your bottles in it. It helps to wrap the bottles with scotch tape or packing tape if you go this route so the label won't wash off on you. When steeping in the dark i try a flavor every week (unless it's one i know from experience needs more time) and if I water bathe it, i run it through 3 sink-fulls of the hottest water i can run until it cools each time.

GL with quitting - you should enjoy vaping much more, you'll be amazed how much your taste buds may change on you in the first couple of months, so unless you're really sold on a flavor - buy less than 15ml at a time of juice/liquid in case your taste buds to a reverse on you and suddenly it doesn't taste as good. There's also a short phase some of us call "mud mouth" where nothing tastes really good and it happens periodically, even if you've been vaping a while :)

If i can help in any other way, please msg me and let me know!

-daisy

meridiantoo 03-05-2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisygirl (Post 761724)
Hi :)

Q1 - with 24 mg liquid you should be fine. I didn't have any withdrawal symptoms, i just reached for my e-cig when i had the craving (like i would have with a regular cig).

Q2 - Yes, they're all refillable but will eventually gunk up and wear out so try to keep a couple of spares on hand. You may also find it more comfortable vaping if you remove the rubber plug from the mouthpiece and use a drip tip in its place. It doesn't hold more liquid but it's more like having a filter on a ciggie, especially when you get the occasional bit of liquid that comes out of the top (ie if you overfill it) and a drip tip will help keep that out of your mouth (it's icky).

Q3 - Steeping simply allows all the ingredients in an ecig juice or liquid (whatever you want to call it) time to meld. There are some flavors that you can vape instantly and some that take a bit longer - and that's personal preference in most cases. The more complex the flavor, the more time it may need to steep, and almost all tobacco flavored juices need steeping time. You can steep by either leaving your juice in a dark drawer or cupboard, or - if you want to speed up the process - you can run a super hot sink and float your bottles in it. It helps to wrap the bottles with scotch tape or packing tape if you go this route so the label won't wash off on you. When steeping in the dark i try a flavor every week (unless it's one i know from experience needs more time) and if I water bathe it, i run it through 3 sink-fulls of the hottest water i can run until it cools each time.

GL with quitting - you should enjoy vaping much more, you'll be amazed how much your taste buds may change on you in the first couple of months, so unless you're really sold on a flavor - buy less than 15ml at a time of juice/liquid in case your taste buds to a reverse on you and suddenly it doesn't taste as good. There's also a short phase some of us call "mud mouth" where nothing tastes really good and it happens periodically, even if you've been vaping a while :)

If i can help in any other way, please msg me and let me know!

-daisy

Daisy,

Thank you so much for responding to me. I needed this information before I could confidently make my first purchase. I have concluded that I will need about 15 cartomizers and about 1 15ml. bottle of liquid to start. Does this sound about right? I am getting a manual e-cig with a usb charger/wall charger. Will this do, do you think?

I understand about your taste buds changing. I quit smoking for 2 years long ago and my taste buds totally changed. I loved it once they settled down and I got full taste back!

I really appreciate your help with all this. It's new to me and while I can read about it, nothing compares to hearing someone's personal advice and experience.

Meri :bow:


AmazonWoman1 03-05-2013 01:37 AM

Does vaping truly help reduce sugar cravings?
 
I love sugar.Does it really help you not want sugar?& is it artificial flavorings or bad stuff used to make it?

meridiantoo 03-05-2013 02:31 AM

The Alice in Vapeland site is down for orders until Wednesday morning, but apparently you can still view their products on the site. So, I was looking around to see what they have to offer and came across some helpful information that I am going to share for anyone following this thread:

This is a list/chart of the different nicotine concentrations and their equivalents for smokers who are trying to quit:



24 mg = Comparable to non-filters
18 mg = Comparable to full-flavored
14 mg = Comparable to mediums
11 mg = Comparable to lights
6 mg = Comparable to ultra-lights
0 mg = Flavorful, but contain no nicotine at all


Ingredients commonly found in e-liquid:

Propylene Glycol (PG) slightly sweet and colorless, produces more flavor and throat hit
Vegetable Glycerin (VG) thicker and sweeter produces more vapor
Flavorings specifically selected for vaping
Distilled Water (DW)
Pure Grain Alcohol (PGA)


I will post more information as I find it.

:chemist:

meridiantoo 03-05-2013 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie (Post 747114)
Forgive me if anyone posted about this already. I haven't read all pages here.

I'm wondering if anyone has had problems with "Dry Mouth?" I have been vaping for about a yr and half and I have major problems with dry mouth. I've researched it and only find that if people get this, it only lasts about 2 weeks. For me, it's so bad that I can not create any saliva to the point I have a lisp. I have spoke to my local store and they have only heard of this from one other person. For her she knew she was alergic to the propylene glycol and takes that chance for cigarette free life. I haven't spoken to my Doctor yet, that's coming. I also know it's used in toothpaste which would explain why (I think) my mouth is dry after I brush.

I also know when Vaping you are to drink a lot of water! This hasn't helped me with the "Dry Mouth" it has almost made it worse.

I guess what I'm asking is if anyone else has had this issue? It sucks because I went for 4 months without smoking (one wknd I had 4 cigs) but couldn't take the dry mouth any longer.

Does anyone use Liquids with out the Propylene glycol in their liquids. If so where do you get them and can you shoot me the site you get them from.


I am reading this thread closer and coming across posts to respond to...

I am still in the ordering process of my first starter kit, so I have no idea what the dry mouth thing is about, but I'm sure I will find out soon enough.

However, smoking dries my mouth out, so I have tried a dry-mouth mouthwash specifically to lubricate and it helps a lot. One that I use is by Biotene and it works really well. Just a thought.

daisygirl 03-05-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 761740)
Daisy,

Thank you so much for responding to me. I needed this information before I could confidently make my first purchase. I have concluded that I will need about 15 cartomizers and about 1 15ml. bottle of liquid to start. Does this sound about right? I am getting a manual e-cig with a usb charger/wall charger. Will this do, do you think?

I understand about your taste buds changing. I quit smoking for 2 years long ago and my taste buds totally changed. I loved it once they settled down and I got full taste back!

I really appreciate your help with all this. It's new to me and while I can read about it, nothing compares to hearing someone's personal advice and experience.

Meri :bow:


I'm glad i can help! You'll want more than one bottle of liquid. Try a few flavors. Each cartomizer can easily hold 1.2 ml of liquid so you'll find yourself needing more than 15ml. There are sites that sell decent inexpensive liquid. The Alice in Vapeland stuff is good - but it's expensive and in the beginning you should start with inexpensive so you can figure out what you like. Mt Baker Vapor is one place to get decent flavors and it's not expensive - i haven't ordered from them for a while but i liked what i got. There's one liquid i highly recommend and that's lily's liquid, sold by bamsbbq on nu-vapor (he takes orders through pm's and referrals) and he makes it all himself. He charges what is the *usual* standard of $.50/ml. When you start paying much more than that you're getting into the more gourmet flavors and in the beginning you'll want to try a bunch so it doesn't hurt to start with a non-gourmet juice maker.

15 cartos will last you a while, especially if you have a handful of flavors, you'll have some back-ups. A manual is the best choice, you get used to pushing the button really quick, it's just going to be a difference in how you inhale because you can't draw on it like you would a ciggie - but you'll figure that out too :) As long as you get the usb and wall chargers, you should be set to start!

I'm daisygirlie on nu-vapor and i chat there (video chat, then click text chat once you see the list, we're normally there in the evenings) if you want to come learn some stuff, we're all there to help and we love helping new people. Some people will even help with juice, etc. to help you get started so you don't have to pay a fortune for things :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by meridiantoo (Post 761785)

I am reading this thread closer and coming across posts to respond to...

I am still in the ordering process of my first starter kit, so I have no idea what the dry mouth thing is about, but I'm sure I will find out soon enough.

However, smoking dries my mouth out, so I have tried a dry-mouth mouthwash specifically to lubricate and it helps a lot. One that I use is by Biotene and it works really well. Just a thought.

I agree on the Biotene, i have it too. I started using it after i got my tonsils out 2 months ago (not a fun time for a grown up or a vaper, lol) and i found that it helps when i'm vaping high PG juices, because PG causes dry mouth. If you're having a lot of problems, i'd switch to a lower PG, higher VG or all VG juice. Hopefully Strappie will see this too :)

-daisy

meridiantoo 03-06-2013 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisygirl (Post 762275)
I'm glad i can help! You'll want more than one bottle of liquid. Try a few flavors. Each cartomizer can easily hold 1.2 ml of liquid so you'll find yourself needing more than 15ml. There are sites that sell decent inexpensive liquid. The Alice in Vapeland stuff is good - but it's expensive and in the beginning you should start with inexpensive so you can figure out what you like. Mt Baker Vapor is one place to get decent flavors and it's not expensive - i haven't ordered from them for a while but i liked what i got. There's one liquid i highly recommend and that's lily's liquid, sold by bamsbbq on nu-vapor (he takes orders through pm's and referrals) and he makes it all himself. He charges what is the *usual* standard of $.50/ml. When you start paying much more than that you're getting into the more gourmet flavors and in the beginning you'll want to try a bunch so it doesn't hurt to start with a non-gourmet juice maker.

15 cartos will last you a while, especially if you have a handful of flavors, you'll have some back-ups. A manual is the best choice, you get used to pushing the button really quick, it's just going to be a difference in how you inhale because you can't draw on it like you would a ciggie - but you'll figure that out too :) As long as you get the usb and wall chargers, you should be set to start!

I'm daisygirlie on nu-vapor and i chat there (video chat, then click text chat once you see the list, we're normally there in the evenings) if you want to come learn some stuff, we're all there to help and we love helping new people. Some people will even help with juice, etc. to help you get started so you don't have to pay a fortune for things :)


I agree on the Biotene, i have it too. I started using it after i got my tonsils out 2 months ago (not a fun time for a grown up or a vaper, lol) and i found that it helps when i'm vaping high PG juices, because PG causes dry mouth. If you're having a lot of problems, i'd switch to a lower PG, higher VG or all VG juice. Hopefully Strappie will see this too :)

-daisy

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I am still doing research and learning all I can. I keep reading your older posts also. You've been wonderful, I really appreciate it.

Meri :moonstars:

meridiantoo 03-07-2013 12:49 AM

Daisy,

So, I know you recommended not ordering through vapor4life. And maybe it will end up being a regret, but I wanted the easiest method of starting this. So, I ordered one of their starter kits tonight and 2 - 30ml bottles of liquid with 15 cartomizers. I'm hoping this will be a decent way to get my feet wet and see if it's the answer for me.

Thank you again for all of your help and guidance. I keep reading on the nu-vapor site and researching in general, so I should have a pretty good idea of what I am doing by the time the order arrives.

:flowers:


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