What doesn't! (i.e. Sometimes it simply feels that everything attracts me to Ftms!!!)

Sorry, I hadn't been reading the thread and that's what popped into my head.

A gentle moderating moment...

Before things get too far off track, let's please focus on the original intent of the thread.

It's possible (and preferred) to state what you *do* like and what *attracts* you to ___________ without tearing down anyone or anything else.

Just focus on the positive, please.

shoes. it's the shoes. :blueheels:

SuperFemme!!! I am so glad to see you...GB-less! Been praying for you all day and night...to ease your pain..

yes...I do so love their shoes...and the way they wear their socks...

I do have a foot fetish....

What is a FTM? I ask that because in another thread the differences in IDs are being discussed and what those IDs mean. And they mean many different things to many different people! My partner does not define himself as a FTM even though many looking at his experiences might define him that way. He's queer. I'm queer. He's a butch. I'm a femme. I am very happy with Mahhhh Man!

I'm sorry I know we were asked to keep it on track but I don't want this post to just sit here unchallenged. That's really a condescending way to speak to someone who replied to you in a restrained, respectful manner.

again, sorry Thinker for the derail. I just had to say something.

just to inform you of my tone in that post was respectful not condescending. Please do not put "tones" to my words that are not there.

And I think if a mod gives a gentle moderation, he means it...

It appears you misinterpreted the post.

Let it rest, and let the original and intended discussion continue. If you have any questions about it, please contact me via PM.

Thinker

i like nice hands too.
a good manicure.
or rough hard working calloused hands.
of course, i prefer them still attached and not in a jar.
i'm picky like that.

oh. and concert t shirts.
i cannot date anyone that doesn't have some amazing concert t's.

some people always rain on my delusional parade.

and i can tooooo date. it's just that my dating pool consists of one amazing guy. with concert t's. hahahaha. neener neener.

can i borrow your umbrella now?

whew, too tough. and a hard act to follow.

I've thought about this and thought about the FTQ/FTM that I've dated/screwed around with to see if there was anything unifying about them that may be different than anyone else I've dated.

The only thing that seems to stand out is the ones I've dated/fucked about with were very bender-ish. In that, they were *totally* comfortable in queering their masculinity and coming up with their own masculine gender now that body matched their head a bit more. Thus we could get up to some seriously fun (for me me me and them them them) queering/bender-sex role play.

The butches I tended to date at this time were a little more uncomfortable with that kind of mind gender-fuck. I'm sure tons were able to, I just had no access to any as at the time no one was admitting to any of it, thus I couldn't ask any out. I did discover that once my partners were comfortable with who I was and that they trusted I respected them, they got more willing and curious and able.

I think, at the time and place, the FTQ/M I had access to were just there a bit faster.

That's really the only difference I can think of.

BI (before Inki) in london, I did turn down a couple of straight FtM dates as I didn't really see that jiving. They didn't see themselves as heteroqueer or queer in anyway. So I said no. I don't date straight blokes. TBH, I didn't (and don't) really know very many straight FtMs. Most that I know ID as queer or heteroqueer (and half of those aren't queer in sexuality - they don't have sex with other men of any origin, they just feel their journey aligns them with a queer philosophy and outlook and bendy sex games lol)

but as for why those FtQ/M were attractive? Nothing about them being FtM. They displayed characteristics I find hot in anyone - cheeky, funny, thoughtful, non-rigid, able to take the piss, treat me like a human rather than "a girl", cocky (in the good way: see cheeky) and self confident.

Actually that's not entirely true - there are certain aspects in femmes I find attractive and hot that I don't find attractive in butches or FtQ/Ms. And vice versa. hmn. Have to think about that.

Everytime I think about this subject I come up with nothing. I think what it all boils down to is I"m attracted to energy. Generally speaking, I tend to gravitate more to abundant masculine energy more, with a touch of feminine. Most butches, and FTM's I"ve dated embrace thier inner fag. I like that. It's hot.

I like this.

I'd like to steal it (and give you credit).