Off-duty or not, it's illegal.


Now, the ethics of it... part of me can understand it. The amount of alcohol and other "stuff" that goes on, as well as some of the over zealousness of some fans towards or against sports figures could warrant it. There is another part that wonders how much of a threat he really was and whether it was just frustration on the part of the security guards.



The question that is appropriate is how well trained was the individual in the use of the taser. If trained well, they have saved lives on both sides of the taser. Unfortunately, I have doubts as to how well some are trained. There have been a few too many cases where the use of tasers (stun guns) have resulted in deaths of individuals (some were due to improper training, others due to the health of the individual in question).

Death penalties have been proven as an unsuccessful deterrent in addressing behaviorial issues/challenges in society. I think removing the "beer" aspect of sporting events would be a little better at deterring this kind of behaviour.

As for kids and parents, this is part of life. Kids will scream in the most inappropriate places. While we don't like it, it is part of their and their parents "growing up" stages.

Stun guns may be illegal for every day people, but they are not illegal for police officers.

(e) EXCEPTIONS.-- Nothing in this section shall prohibit the possession or use by, or the sale or furnishing of any electric or electronic incapacitation device to, a law enforcement agency, peace officer, employee of a correctional institution, county jail or prison or detention center, the National Guard or reserves or a member of the National Guard or reserves for use in their official duties. Taken from here.


Now that I live relatively close to Philly, I see first hand how truly obnoxious Philly fans can be - the news is constantly filled with just bad, middle-child behavior (not just sports-related) - and each year it just gets worse.

I'm not an advocate for excessive force, and I am certainly not an advocate of force against minors - but I do think being tasered is hella better than being shot. I also think it sends a loud message that this behavior will not be rewarded with just a mere slap on the wrist and a big "ha-ha".

Sitting in a tank for the remainder of a game isn't necessarily going to dissuade someone from doing it again - they've already "achieved their goal". At the same time, I am not saying to tase the shit out of the whole stadium.

Maybe the fines aren't large enough, or maybe jail time needs to be imposed (if it isn't already, idk) - but I do think that they need to do something before sports events are viewed behind a gigantic iron gate, yanno? (.... or worse, someone gets hurt again .... keeping Monica in mind.....)

I am all for tasering or the use of baseball bats. If you are dumb enough to run out onto a field in the middle of a game - you deserve it. If you are dumb enough to run from the police who are telling you to stop - you deserve it. If you are dumb enough not to listen to someone that gets paid (poorly) to carry a gun -you deserve it.

As for him being 17 - as the mother of a 17 year old girl, I think all 17 year olds should be tasered on their 17th birthday so they know what it feels like. That way when they go to a party with all their stupid friends and the police show up, they don't think running their mouth is such a great idea. I would like to buy a taser actually, it would save me from losing my voice like I do currently. That and I bet her room would be immaculate.

In Florida they are fond of tasering elementary kids. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11...r_kids_zapped/

I do draw the line there. Keep tasers out of elementary school. But, high school - 16 and up - go for it.

my parents didn't use a taser *once* and my room was immaculate and my curfew was 10pm until i was 18--i was late one time.

i can't speak to mouthing-off to cops because that was/is beyond inconceivable, my parents made it perfectly clear that if i ever was arrested/picked up by the cops that i should under no circumstance waste a phone call on calling them because my dad would *NEVER* bail me out of JH/jail.

so, it's probably not the taser (or bat)--though my dad was and probably still is an excellent shot. (target practice, mainly.)

Yeah. I don't think making light of using excessive force on minors is funny.
Coming from a person that survived a mother who used it regularly.

Well, the kids are going to be kids. It's up to the parents how to deal with it.

This goes back to the parents and then we'll get into the whole 'who's a good parent' discussion and that will go all to Hell in a pretty lil hand basket. With streamers and glitter, no less.

So, to stop that in its tracks, I too knew better even though I did not have a good parental influence and spent years in the system.

So, the responsibility for the infraction goes firmly on the shoulders of the idiot who committed it, where it belongs.

I am very glad my parent never advocated violently assaulting me for no reason, "just so I knew what it feels like."

Wow.

"Civil journalism", and more threads such as this, along with videos, are good for folks who were/will be victims of excessive use of force with tasers. Do we have legislation to protect them?

So we are going to tase and possibly hang children if they interrupt sports.

Yeayyy.

I am proud as pie of us. Sports. Something that is supposed to be recreational and fun. Relaxing even.

My parent did take to assaulting me physically..but did not really give me a reason.

Maybe the Dad should have been tased instead of the kid?

Again, for me it is incomprehensible to get so upset over a ball game that some of us think violence to children is the way to control crowds.

Wow.

I am now clear on why I am not into sports....I thought it was dodge ball, but no...it was fans who think that nothing should get in the way of competition. :explode:

Now, if only the kid that ran out on the field thought this way too. I'd rather hold HIM responsible for HIS actions first and foremost. Why don't we do that once in a while? ;)

Tasers can be deadly.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...s&dlvrit=99756