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betenoire 08-02-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by honeybarbara (Post 166637)
you might also like

http://www.youtube.com/show?p=xRhD6qsQC3w&feature=fvsp

it's the entire second series to green wing. batty, weird and awkward english humour.

Set up is a bit difficult but one point important: Guy, who is a doctor, took the blonde Head of Administration out for a fast lay then they both discovered after the fact that she's his mother.

point two, the scottish insane woman is madly in love with the red haired doctor in a coma. she's jealous of his gf so is trying to either marry him while he's in a coma or steal some sperm to get pregnant.

it's very absurd and nonsequiture at times but it's fabulous :)

I tried to watch it but

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This video contains content from Channel 4, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
I have no idea who this Channel 4 is, but they need to seriously check their bullshit meanypants hatred of Canada. *irate*

I am going to make a thread about this!

imperfect_cupcake 08-02-2010 05:18 PM

suck!!!

that means I can't watch 4od when I move back. grrrr.

london drives me mental but not having english comedy at my disposal is going to blow. I won't be able to get BBCi player either. radio yes, but not tv.

bullocking bullox. stupid licensing laws. great. I'm stuck with ancient episodes of red dwarf and corrination street on PBS when I move back. fuckitygibblits.

betenoire 08-02-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by honeybarbara (Post 166674)
suck!!!

that means I can't watch 4od when I move back. grrrr.

london drives me mental but not having english comedy at my disposal is going to blow. I won't be able to get BBCi player either. radio yes, but not tv.

bullocking bullox. stupid licensing laws. great. I'm stuck with ancient episodes of red dwarf and corrination street on PBS when I move back. fuckitygibblits.

Naw, you can probably still find reruns of "Are You Being Served?". That show is great.

I wonder if someone who is smart with computers can set you up on a proxy server / fake IP addy situation so that the internet will THINK you are allowed to watch stuff that is apparently being kept top secret from Canadians.

imperfect_cupcake 08-02-2010 06:12 PM

not a bad idea!!

I need my "Mock the week" fix. And I'll still get british movies. thank you, I'll look into that!

suebee 08-02-2010 06:15 PM

It seems to me that you an get BBC on some cable or satellite packages.

AtLast 08-02-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Thoreau (Post 166726)
I find several things funny -
1. the video it was hysterical especially considering what was being advertised as one watched the video. would have been more hysterical if they advertised douche and tampax tho.

2. I find the fact that this is aobut "cougar lesbians" and so many people on B-F sites state frequently the term lesbian IS NOT their identity who are PERSONALLY offended by this..

3. I find it hysterical that of the hundreds of thousands of blatantly offensive, crude, deceitful, lying, pornographic videos on the internet,,,this is the one people find offensive.....

Sorry there is a lot more I find offensive than this 30 second video that is not worth the 30 seconds of typing I had to do to write this post.

Namaste


Lesbian is my identity as it is for many members here. And the admin has now included anti-lesbian/lesbian-phobic rhetoric in the Planet's TOS along with transphobia, sexism, sizeism, homophobia, racism, etc.

I agree that there are many blatantly offensive, crude, deceitful, lying, pornographic videos on the internet
that are quite offensive. However, there are members here that find this video offensive from a lesbian-phobic stance.

I wouldn't care for a clip that is offensive to any of the identities represented here. I feel like your comment is minimizing (or just plain disregarding other identities) the effect that the clip can or does have on those of us who do identify as lesbian and wanted to make our reasons clear.

TickledPink 08-02-2010 07:04 PM

There is nothing appealing about taking advantage of someone who is puking and intoxicated. Blech!

Further, now I'm depressed because I'm 42 and "could" be a Cougar???

Corkey 08-02-2010 07:07 PM

Just because I am not a lesbian doesn't diminish how distasteful and gross that clip is. I have every right to my opinion as a Human.

MsMerrick 08-02-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by honeybarbara (Post 166571)
um. I'm kinda in this disagreement too. but no one seems to be pointing out the same things to me and it's sort of wierding me out, folks. I don't want to read into that and I'd like some reassurance.

it's actually cause I smell, isn't it. you all won't fight with me cause I haven't bathed today.


actually I went back and looked at the other film that was on second city. mn. well. personally that was american collage style humour a la Adam sandler. Not Satire. So now I'm thinking second city has seriously dropped in their caliber of comedy since I was a teen/20's.

lame ass. not funny.

that said, I still don't think that first piece was promoting rape. Just poorly executed and badly written. which I think is a bigger insult than "offensive." But that's me.

I was kind of wondering exactly that ....I mean, I did too .. Admittedly I didn't have time to stick around and say it a couple more times ..!

AtLast 08-02-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 166736)
Just because I am not a lesbian doesn't diminish how distasteful and gross that clip is. I have every right to my opinion as a Human.

Yup, you do as a human... and also you and all lesbian members are now covered under a revised TOS contract on The Planet:

5. No Intolerant Behavior! - Racially offensive, Sizist, Sexist, Transphobic, Classist, Ableist, Elitist, Misogynist, Homophobic, Lesbian-phobic or otherwise hateful speech is NOT acceptable here. If you make an asshattish or hateful comment, you can expect your fellow community members to want to engage with you about it. Also, making a comment that is racist, ageist, sexist, sizist, Lesbian-phobic or generally offensive and then adding "It's just my opinion" or "It's my First Amendment Right!" does NOT negate your personal accountability for what you just said.

RockOn 08-02-2010 07:40 PM

offensive
not funny in the least

Stearns 08-02-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TickledPink (Post 166733)
There is nothing appealing about taking advantage of someone who is puking and intoxicated. Blech!

This is nothing against you, TickledPink. I'm just using your post to make a point. "Taking advantage" of someone would be more akin to someone having a few drinks that merely lowers their inhibitions, but they are still fully capable of giving or withdrawing consent. When someone is completely intoxicated, as depicted in the video, they are incapable of giving consent, in a legal sense. The act then rises to the level of - and indeed is - a sexual assault. Of the felony variety.

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Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 166736)
Just because I am not a lesbian doesn't diminish how distasteful and gross that clip is. I have every right to my opinion as a Human.

Right on. I'm glad the logic of not being able to be offended unless one is a member of the targeted group didn't apply to Lincoln and slavery and Johnson and civil rights.

MsMerrick 08-03-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stearns (Post 166767)
This is nothing against you, TickledPink. I'm just using your post to make a point. "Taking advantage" of someone would be more akin to someone having a few drinks that merely lowers their inhibitions, but they are still fully capable of giving or withdrawing consent. When someone is completely intoxicated, as depicted in the video, they are incapable of giving consent, in a legal sense. The act then rises to the level of - and indeed is - a sexual assault. Of the felony variety.


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Well yeah except that, in the words of the players, what they wanted from these overly intoxicated straight women, was for them to "lick my twat"

Now, anyone who thinks that a falling over intoxicated woman or man, with or without experience, is going to be capable of doing that with any actual "fun" results.. raise your hand... :0
Seriously, yes blech and yes stupid..But yes satire... very badly done satire.....

Stearns 08-03-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMerrick (Post 167066)
Well yeah except that, in the words of the players, what they wanted from these overly intoxicated straight women, was for them to "lick my twat"

Now, anyone who thinks that a falling over intoxicated woman or man, with or without experience, is going to be capable of doing that with any actual "fun" results.. raise your hand... :0
Seriously, yes blech and yes stupid..But yes satire... very badly done satire.....

I just got a mental picture of you in a jury box, Olympic-sized scorecard in hand, ready to rate the vic's performance, based on testimony from the perp :readfineprint:

Seriously, though, I just don't find depictions of sexual assault/sexual assault scenarios, regardless of how well-crafted or executed, regardless of vic gender or age - amusing. The lesbians-as-perps angle was particularly disturbing and it concerns me that the non-knowing will take it as truth more often than not. People viewed this video with different 'eyes'. Those were mine.

BullDog 08-03-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stearns (Post 167268)
I just got a mental picture of you in a jury box, Olympic-sized scorecard in hand, ready to rate the vic's performance, based on testimony from the perp :readfineprint:

Seriously, though, I just don't find depictions of sexual assault/sexual assault scenarios, regardless of how well-crafted or executed, regardless of vic gender or age - amusing. The lesbians-as-perps angle was particularly disturbing and it concerns me that the non-knowing will take it as truth more often than not. People viewed this video with different 'eyes'. Those were mine.

Yeah, I agree with you Stearns. I don't see how depicting sexual assault could ever be amusing or effective as satire no matter how well-crafted it was.

Some people seem to be implying that people objecting to this video don't get it was supposed to be satire or that we don't see the subtleties. Yeah, I think pretty much everyone gets it was supposed to be satire. That's not what is important to many of us.

betenoire 08-03-2010 04:38 PM

I do have to wonder at what point will negative representations of lesbians (or gay men, or bisexuals, or transsexuals, etc) in fictional media be considered okay? How many GOOD representations of lesbians do you need to balance out one bad one? When will poking fun at lesbian stereotypes no longer be considered too taboo?

I mean, 15 years ago when there were no (that I can think of) representations of lesbians on television - I can see this video being a HUGE deal. Like "Oh nice, you all finally get around to putting us on teevee and you pull this lesbian cougar shit. Assholes." But now? Really?

Lesbians are portrayed on television more and more - so you can't -really- expect that every portrayal of a lesbian is going to be a positive one. It's actually a little unreasonable to demand that. You can't expect entertainment media to treat you with kid gloves forever.

AtLast 08-03-2010 05:15 PM

Thinking about the kind of talent someone has that does put together satire that actually produces Ah, Ha moments, the ability to laugh at oneself and has some social value. This, just doesn't on the face of it. It is an insult to those talented folks that know what they are doing.

I am not crazy about the subject matter as well and the lesbian-phobic nature of it at all. But, I bet there are satirists that could pull it off in some meaningful way.... well, maybe....


Random 08-03-2010 06:00 PM

I don't find it funny.. I turned it off at the passed out frat girl part..

But I can see why some people would find it humorous..

My sexuality is not a sacred cow... If comedians/snl/second city can make fun of other people.. Rednecks,Mom Jeans, Republicans, Blonds, Brit Spears, then why not lesbians...

I don't like that kind of humor.. I have an embarrasment factor... When people make asses of them selves, It embarrasses me..

You should see me react to Borat and the other movie..

ugh...

Heart 08-03-2010 07:22 PM

Wait a sec -- let's not start with the whole humorless-lesbians-should-just-get-over-themselves stereotype. I specifically said that the Simpsons skewering of lesbians is successful satire -- meaning its damn funny. I can also remember falling off my chair laughing at Kat Clinton's ribbing menopausal lesbians to hysterical effect.

Scorp 08-03-2010 08:16 PM

Absolutely stupid...I wasted a couple of minutes of my time watching this hideous, dumbass video................ :beatcomputer:


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