The same way I'd like to be treated for the rest of the relationship!

Appreciated, seen, honored, worshiped.

So Atomic...clear as mud...lol.

Femmes are just people and we all like different things.

Maybe ask a woman you are talking to what she likes on a date? :) If it's hella expensive...skip her and try someone else...lol.

Seriously, I hope you can see that there are so many options for dates and getting to know women that do not include spending a ton of cash. :)

When I first started dating the bf, we did inexpensive things involving him messing up the kitchen and us messing up his bed sheets.

Later when it got more romantic, he paid for everything but you know, he didn't need to. I would have been happy to have paid my own way. What I really appreciated was that he cared. He smiled when I smiled, laughed when I laughed, listened when I spoke, held my hand during dinner, always said yes to dessert, seemed so pleased to be there every time we met, and every time we parted could never wait to see me again.

I barely remember our dates, all I remember was him and how lovely he was.

What a perfect answer.

rough trade
 

like you found me on grindr (within 15 feet).

Simple and fun-
 

I want to be made to feel very comfortable and appreciated... I love seeing my date's eyes sparkle with amusement or intrigue when I'm goofy or witty or audacious or sexy.

I really want to know that my date is interested in me, and also that s/he is confident in what s/he brings to the table. Delicious conversation is a must. When I ask you what you're thinking, tell me - even if it is silly. Ask me what I'm thinking, or my thoughts about a certain subject, or my response to an experience we've shared. I want you to want to get to know *me,* because I wouldn't have accepted your offer if I weren't interested in the real you.

I want to have my femininity cherished but not treated as fragile. I love chivalry, but only when it is a natural expression of your desire to take care of me and treat me respectfully. Oh, and I want the chivalry to come from an assured, masculine adult - not a sweaty-palmed teenager. Nervous can be cute for a while, but a lack of confidence is not.

I want a simple activity with talking - picnics, cooking together, the aquarium, a movie at home, dancing after a meal (or a dance lesson!), listening to favorite CD's in the car with the seats leaning back... they all allow us both to be comfortable and really talk, touch each other and be affectionate, flirt and be playful, and there's an attached activity to prevent awkwardness if the conversation is occasionally a little slow or i need to blush. lol.

There's so much that goes into an amazing date, but the funny part of it is that it requires simply opening yourself up, paying attention, offering something in return, being appreciative, and allowing yourself to have a lot of fun. ...and good, good kissing. *giggle*

yes. If I haven't met them before at an event or a party or a night out, and it's been off a forum, for the last few year before I met the wife I had "pre-dates" where I'd just ask someone out for a beer/coffee as a friend to see what kind of chemistry there was and how the conversation flowed and how natural we were with each other (I give an hour at the beginning to get over nerves - if they are so nervous it takes three dates to get over nerves, then were really aren't for each other).

I made a great friend though one of them! She still flirted with me a bit through out the friendship but in a very charming way which felt nice.

like you were dating kate middleton

I recently went on a date with a great sweet beautiful gal. The best part of it was just talking, getting to know each other, and being silly. We had dinner, talked, smiled, lots of flirts and laughs. We went to a park, got on big swings and stared at the stars. I pushed her on the swing, she giggled wanted higher and loved it. lol It was so much fun. It had been awhile since I was on a date. I enjoyed it and her company a lot. (:

I tend not to absolutely pamper a girl on the first date because I don't have all the green in the world to throw around on someone who I'm not 100% positive I'll be with for more than a week. That doesn't mean I'm picking her up in a muddy white pickup truck in dirty clothes with no smellgood stuff on and taking her down to Micky D's. Just means I don't plan on fine dining. I like to start out a relationship with a good first impression of me myself and I, not me myself and I's money. I've come across a few femmes who insist on being spoiled within the first week of dating, and when I don't I'm called "cheap" or "a jerk".

That being said though, I know first hand that not all femmes are like that, and maybe a few butches are like that. But the ones I go for are a little more down to earth. Despite who I'm dating though, I'm always the same. First date: A nice, clean pair of jeans and a ironed shirt, maybe I'll lose the hat, clean white teeth and brushed out good smelling hair. Tennies or nice boots and maybe a little blingbling, but nothing flashy whatsoever; I don't even own anything that flashy. lol

We'll do something fun but simple and maybe old fashion like a dinner and movie or something similar, I like KISS: keep it simple stupid. If she don't like it, I'll drop her. Whatever. My wify loves my simpleton personality lol, she's pretty down to earth and laid back too and that's always been the girl I go for. I don't like girls who act like brats, either act your age or get out of my car. :D

Question...
 

Is the floor open to everyone now?

Thanks

Thanks sister femme-I was wondering about that myself!

Nope. Please folks, this is for femmes only. Thx.

For me, how you ask me on a date is directly related to whether or not we will have a first date. Do not give me your phone number and ask *me* to call *you*. It won't happen. Do not ask, "Don't you think it would be nice to go out one night?" The answer will be, "No".

If you want to date me and I haven't necessarily encouraged your attention, then it is your job to show me why I should make time for you - because I don't date everyone who asks. I am attracted to butches, in part, for the level of self-confidence they possess to be true to who they are in the face of the world. Please, let's begin this dance with a show of self-confidence in the way that you approach me.

If we haven't talked much in the past, inquire a bit to find out a few things about my likes and preferences and then plan something nice. Simple is fine. Fancy is fine. What matters most is that you demonstrate that you've listened to me and have put some thought into what you believe is a nice outing. If you can't come up with one idea for what we can do together, then we won't be going out on a date.

Neat and clean is essential. When you come to pick me up, I will not come to you if you honk the horn. As a matter of fact, I will not even open the door to let you know I've heard. You are welcome to bring me flowers, but roses are not an appropriate first date gift, in my opinion. For that matter, no "gift" is really appropriate on a first date, beyond flowers or a bottle of wine. I cannot be bought.

I expect help with my jacket, my doors to be opened, and my chair to be pulled out. When I used to smoke, I expected my cigarettes to be lit - and, no, I will not lean into you. If we go out to supper, I will let you know what I would like to order and allow you to handle the conversation with the wait staff. And, since you asked me out on this first date, I do expect you to pay for the evening. Should we have another date and I ask you, then I will pay for that outing.

Conversation is extremely important. Yes, I do want to hear about you, your life, and what you do for work - but all in moderation, please. If I find something particularly intriguing, trust me, I will ask you lots of questions. At the same time, I appreciate your interest in me. Chances are, I don't know what exactly interests you, so help me out with some questions. But, as we talk on our first date, I truly have no interest in hearing about your last date or your ex. Although, those are okay topics on subsequent dates.

If you must keep your cell phone on buzz-mode because of work or kids, I understand and respect your need to see if you must excuse yourself for a short call. However, if you haven't mentioned this at the front end of our date, I will assume that I am boring you and will seek to end the date sooner rather than later.

Please do not presume that because you are paying that you have the privilege of touching me. As we walk, you're welcome to put out your arm and I very well may take it in mine. If you ask if you may hold my hand, the answer will likely be yes - unless you have bored me with your conversation or your manners are atrocious. As for a kiss at the end of the evening... If you don't ask, you will be left groping for air as I move swiftly inside my house. If you do ask, well, it will all depend upon whether or not I'm interested in a second date.

With all this said, should we have a first date, I would like for you to know that you will have my undivided attention. When you do me the courtesies of opening my door, etc, I will smile and look you in the eyes and say thank you. Should your tie be askew, I'll ask if I can straighten it for you. If I see your hair is out of place and it's clear you care about such things, I'll discreetly let you know so you can take care of it. Everyone in the room and on the street that we pass will know that I am proud and happy to be by the side of a handsome butch.

If necessary, I will accompany you to the restroom without your asking. Should someone make an unwanted remark about the b-f dynamic or your butchness without you being present, I will firmly assert myself and let them know it's none of their business. I will neither encourage nor accept attention from anyone else while we are on a date.

In short, I expect to be treated with respect for the femme that I am because I will treat you with the utmost of respect for the butch that you are.

Pink

I've always considered a date to be a "social gift.". We obviously think enough of each other to spend time together. Since it is a compliment to be asked out, I don't impose strict expectations. If we don't mesh, we don't mesh. But impossible expectations can strangle a date.

[COLOR="Indigo"] Since I am in a relationship, I will approach this question from that angle. When we go out, I want her eyes on me, not on the televisions or on her phone, which I would prefer to be on vibrate (since she has kids, they can still reach her). I appreciate the door being opened for me and simple gestures of affection like touching my hand as she smiles. It took me by surprise the first few times she ordered for me but now I kind of expect it. I'll just tell her what I want and she tells the waiter what I want; I like it./COLOR]

I don't mind being treated, but it has to go both ways once in a while. I also don't mind a great homemade picnic down at a park or somewhere pretty, a walk along the river gives a great chance to talk and get to know one another.