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MsDemeanor 06-21-2010 08:40 PM

Great video. It's interesting how the new extreme pushes the old extreme to the center. Kinda reminds me of how, back in the day, Greenpeace was considered radial. Then someone moved the bar on 'radical' by starting a little group called Earth First....

Rockinonahigh 06-21-2010 08:51 PM

AHHHHHH I may have herd this wrong on tv but didnt bp buy 30 someodd centerfuge machines form KevinCostner???Wher the H are they>& why arent they in use if they have them???????

MsDemeanor 06-21-2010 10:58 PM

The first three arrived this past weekend, 10 more will be there soon.

linkyloo

AtLast 06-22-2010 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 135592)
The first three arrived this past weekend, 10 more will be there soon.

linkyloo

Whoa, this is something!!

Andrew, Jr. 06-22-2010 09:52 AM


Now is the time of mating and birthing of some animals. I hope and pray that these machines help tremendously. :praying:

Jet 06-25-2010 04:20 PM

Kevin Costner cleanup device gets high marks from BP

Story and videos of Costner testifying on spill cleaning technology

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts2851

Yahoo News

It was treated as an oddball twist in the otherwise wrenching saga of the BP oil spill when Kevin Costner stepped forward to promote a device he said could work wonders in containing the spill's damage. But as Henry Fountain explains in the New York Times, the gadget in question — an oil-separating centrifuge — marks a major breakthrough in spill cleanup technology. And BP, after trial runs with the device, is ordering 32 more of the Costner-endorsed centrifuges to aid the Gulf cleanup.

The "Waterworld" actor has invested some $20 million and spent the past 15 years in developing the centrifuges. He helped found a manufacturing company, Ocean Therapy Solutions, to advance his brother's research in spill cleanup technology. In testimony before Congress this month, Costner walked through the device's operation—explaining how it spins oil-contaminated water at a rapid speed, so as to separate out the oil and capture it in a containment tank:"Doug Suttles was the first guy to step up in the oil industry," Costner said at the presser, "and I'm really happy to say when he ordered 32 machines, it's a signal to the world, to the industry, where we need to be."

Suttles said the additional machines will be used to build four new deep-water systems: on two barges and two 280-foot supply boats.
"We tested it in some of the toughest environments we could find, and actually what it's done — it's quite robust," Suttles said. "This is real technology with real science behind it, and it's passed all of those tests." He added that Costner's device has proved effective at processing 128,000 barrels of water a day, which "can make a real difference to our spill response efforts."

In his congressional testimony, Costner recounted his struggle to effectively market the centrifuge. He explained that although the machines are quite effective, they can still leave trace amounts of oil in the treated water that exceeds current environmental regulations. Because of that regulatory hurdle, he said, he had great difficulty getting oil industry giants interested without first having the approval of the federal government.
[Before 'Waterworld': See Kevin Costner in the '90s]

It's true, as Fountain notes in the Times, that innovation on spill technology has been hobbled in part by the reach of federal regulation — though Fountain also notes that oil companies have elected to devote comparatively little money for researching cleanup devices in the intensely competitive industry.

Costner said that after the device was patented in 1993, he sought to overcome oil-company jitters by offering to allow U.S. oil concerns to use it on a trial basis. He'd extended the same offer to the Japanese government in 1997, he said, but got no takers there either.

— Brett Michael Dykes is a national affairs writer for Yahoo! News.

Soon 06-26-2010 03:02 PM

via Think Progress
 
Brian Kilmeade Provides Fox News Entertainment By Embarrassing Himself


Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade has been embarrassing himself more than usual over the last few days on Fox & Friends. Yesterday, after news broke that the cap BP placed on its leaking oil well had to be removed because one of its robots bumped the well’s venting system, Kilmeade had some harsh words for the robot. “I’d love to talk to that robot that knocked…the top off the cap that was in the bottom of the Gulf yesterday,” Kilmeade said. “What was that robot thinking?” he asked in disgust.

Then today, as Media Matters notes, the Fox co-host had had this dim-witted question for President Obama:

KILMEADE: The President took a matter of hours to pick a commander in Afghanistan so why is it taking months to plug the leaking oil?

It’s unclear how Kilmeade believes that appointing an individual to lead the war in Afghanistan is comparable in difficulty to plugging an oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico. Even Newt Gingrich found the comparison hard to swallow. “Is it fair to draw a correlation between the two?” co-host Gretchen Carlson asked. “No. No, no. The oil spill is more like the entire Afghan campaign,” Gingrich said.

To top it all off, on the Fox and Friends set this morning, Kilmeade played a little one-on-one with last night’s NBA draft top pick John Wall. After Wall dunked on Kilmeade and blocked his shots, Carlson had to show him how it’s done. Watch a compilation:








John Stewart's Response:


STEWART: The BP guys, or the robot. Kilmeade. Robots don’t think. They’re machines. They don’t cry. They don’t fall in love. They can’t be your girlfriend. They’re f***in’ robots. It’s like talking to your toaster. “This English muffin is burnt! Why toaster!? Why?!?! Why have you done this to my breakfast?” Fox and Friends, I don’t want to have to do this everyday.

:rofl:

Jet 06-27-2010 10:26 PM

Top New Orleans chef sues BP over seafood losses

NEW YORK (Reuters) – Susan Spicer, one of New Orleans' most prominent and highly regarded chefs, has sued BP Plc for damages to restaurants that have lost normal seafood supplies because of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. More....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100627/...bayona_lawsuit

Kast 06-28-2010 12:32 PM

Dear God, I have tried to give you the warnings, America. I love my country, it pains me so to see what's happening. Look at my previous posts to understand... they will be disarming America next, you lost your Internet privledges yesterday... forced vaccines with the "mark of the beast", no exceptions - see Lindsey Willams video In DVD 8, He talks about how we are being 'marked' with 'chips' by the vaccines, that the chips are put in the needles and are 'nano' in size. That the health care bill is about total government takeover, to read the fine print.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMtHvODtoQ"]YouTube- Lindsey Williams - The Elite Speak - DVD 1 Part 1 - Jan/Feb 2010 (To Seduce a Nation)[/nomedia]

'that the fall of America would begin by an internal revolution started by the 'Communists'. Some of the people will start fighting against the government. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then from the oceans Russia, Cuba, Nicarauga, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries will attack and defeat America within one hour. Revelation 18, Jeremiah 50-51, other verses in the Bible will be fulfilled." ('The Elite' are behind this making the Bible versus come true.)


Supreme Court limits local gun bans

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37972148...ime_and_courts

U.S. government panel now pushing "vaccinations for all!"

http://www.naturalnews.com/029081_va...ic_health.html

EU666 & US666 Biodefense Stockpile

http://www.prisonplanet.com/eu666-bi...stockpile.html

Internet kill switch plan approved

http://news.techworld.com/security/3...enate/?olo=rss

Hurry, ask questions, time is running short! America is committing suicide, that is an indirectly American funded company behind this, and posioning the waters, she must be stopped soon to preserve the world's waters. Russia is sitting in Cuba drilling oil, Cuba will not allow oil to come on her shores. Store water and food, they have a moral code to tell us what they are going to do, before they do it, it's ok to share this information.

Andrew, Jr. 06-28-2010 01:04 PM


Kam,

Is this from the thinking of the New World Order?

Toughy 06-28-2010 05:03 PM

me in this color

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kam (Post 140318)
Dear God, I have tried to give you the warnings, America. I love my country, it pains me so to see what's happening. Look at my previous posts to understand...

they will be disarming America next,

Did you read your own link? The Supreme Court is striking down laws by local communities that ban hand guns.


you lost your Internet privledges yesterday...

Again, did you even read your own link? The article says this:
<snip> Senator Joe Lieberman and other bill sponsors have refuted the charges that the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act gives the president an Internet "kill switch." Instead, the bill puts limits on the powers the president already has to cause "the closing of any facility or stations for wire communication" in a time of war, as described in the Communications Act of 1934, <snip>



forced vaccines with the "mark of the beast", no exceptions - see Lindsey Willams video In DVD 8, He talks about how we are being 'marked' with 'chips' by the vaccines, that the chips are put in the needles and are 'nano' in size.

Can you explain how the government is going to 'forcibly' vaccinate the entire 310 million people in this country? Public health folks have been pushing vaccinations for all kids (and some adults) since Salk and Sabin discovered the polio vaccines. I'm not even gonna comment on nefarious nanos in vaccines.


That the health care bill is about total government takeover, to read the fine print.

This is utterly and stupendously ridiculous. You can read the entire health bill on line. You find the 'takeover' in the fine print (that does not exist) and show me where and how a government 'takeover' is gonna happen.


YouTube- Lindsey Williams - The Elite Speak - DVD 1 Part 1 - Jan/Feb 2010 (To Seduce a Nation)


'that the fall of America would begin by an internal revolution started by the 'Communists'.

ok this made me laugh out loud for real


Some of the people will start fighting against the government. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then from the oceans Russia, Cuba, Nicarauga, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries will attack and defeat America within one hour.

This also made me laugh loudly and snort. So the US government is not capable of multi-tasking? Geography is such a useful thing to know. Nicaragua is part of Central America. What other 2 countries? Defeat the US in an hour?????????? that would be another snort


Revelation 18, Jeremiah 50-51, other verses in the Bible will be fulfilled." ('The Elite' are behind this making the Bible versus come true.)

'The Elite'??????? Which version of the Bible are you reading and in which language? What year was it published?


Supreme Court limits local gun bans

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37972148...ime_and_courts

U.S. government panel now pushing "vaccinations for all!"

http://www.naturalnews.com/029081_va...ic_health.html


EU666 & US666 Biodefense Stockpile

http://www.prisonplanet.com/eu666-bi...stockpile.html

Do folks just make this stuff up in their heads? I cannot find any reference to EU666 or US666 from a reputable source. Do you have one? And I don't mean sources from end of world/conspiracy websites.

Internet kill switch plan approved

http://news.techworld.com/security/3...enate/?olo=rss


Hurry, ask questions, time is running short! America is committing suicide, that is an indirectly American funded company behind this, and posioning the waters, she must be stopped soon to preserve the world's waters.

How short is time running? A year, 10 years, 20 years (I will be almost 80 so I won't care)? What company? Please name names. Yes water pollution (both sweet and salt) is a huge issue; as well as sweet water being a limited resource with huge potential supply problems acros the world in this century.


Russia is sitting in Cuba drilling oil, Cuba will not allow oil to come on her shores.

Russia is not drilling oil in Cuba. Cuba's oil and natural gas is owned and drilled by the state/government oil company called Cubapetroleo. Cuba imports some oil from Venezuela.


Store water and food, they have a moral code to tell us what they are going to do, before they do it, it's ok to share this information.

They who? I live about 5 miles or so from the Hayward Fault.....big time earthquake country and I have emergency supplies because of that. I also have about 3 days worth of food/water and will probably increase that to 5 days.


Aj......this nicely fits with the 'diversity of ideas' discussion that has been going on......

Corkey 06-28-2010 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kam (Post 140318)
Dear God, I have tried to give you the warnings, America. I love my country, it pains me so to see what's happening. Look at my previous posts to understand... they will be disarming America next, you lost your Internet privledges yesterday... forced vaccines with the "mark of the beast", no exceptions - see Lindsey Willams video In DVD 8, He talks about how we are being 'marked' with 'chips' by the vaccines, that the chips are put in the needles and are 'nano' in size. That the health care bill is about total government takeover, to read the fine print.

YouTube- Lindsey Williams - The Elite Speak - DVD 1 Part 1 - Jan/Feb 2010 (To Seduce a Nation)

'that the fall of America would begin by an internal revolution started by the 'Communists'. Some of the people will start fighting against the government. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then from the oceans Russia, Cuba, Nicarauga, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries will attack and defeat America within one hour. Revelation 18, Jeremiah 50-51, other verses in the Bible will be fulfilled." ('The Elite' are behind this making the Bible versus come true.)


Supreme Court limits local gun bans

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37972148...ime_and_courts

U.S. government panel now pushing "vaccinations for all!"

http://www.naturalnews.com/029081_va...ic_health.html

EU666 & US666 Biodefense Stockpile

http://www.prisonplanet.com/eu666-bi...stockpile.html

Internet kill switch plan approved

http://news.techworld.com/security/3...enate/?olo=rss

Hurry, ask questions, time is running short! America is committing suicide, that is an indirectly American funded company behind this, and posioning the waters, she must be stopped soon to preserve the world's waters. Russia is sitting in Cuba drilling oil, Cuba will not allow oil to come on her shores. Store water and food, they have a moral code to tell us what they are going to do, before they do it, it's ok to share this information.


Kam, the sky is not falling and the sun will rise in the morning. You're preaching is beginning to sound rather hokey, for lack of a better word. Do you really think all this, or are you under some influence? The Maya did not say the it will be the end of the world, only the end of a cycle.

dreadgeek 06-28-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kam (Post 140318)
they will be disarming America next, you lost your Internet privledges yesterday...

Oh, THAT would explain the SCOTUS decision striking down the Chicago handgun ban and expanding the right to purchase, own and carry a handgun? So, by making it easier to get a handgun Americans are going to be disarmed?

Quote:

forced vaccines with the "mark of the beast", no exceptions - see Lindsey Willams video In DVD 8, He talks about how we are being 'marked' with 'chips' by the vaccines, that the chips are put in the needles and are 'nano' in size. That the health care bill is about total government takeover, to read the fine print.
Okay, I didn't really take this when you last posted it so now I'm going to since you have twice repeated the same myth. Since you are going to throw around the term "nano" because it's unfamiliar to most of the people reading this, I'll have to explain what it is you're saying and why what you are saying is not currently possible.

Nano refers to nanometer (British nanometre). It is 1 billionth of a meter. This is extremely small. How small?

Going from smallest to largest:

Single carbon nanotube--1nm
A cell membrane is 6 - 10 nm in width.
HIV virus is about 90 nm across.
The wavelength of violet light is between 380 and 435 nm.
Red light is between 625 and 749 nm
A red blood cell is 1 micron across
A human hair is 100 microns across

So what you are saying is that we are, currently, capable of building electronic chips capable of sending out some kind of EMF signal (if you can't send a signal, what's the point of the chip) that are 1000 times SMALLER than a human hair! Really? And who won the Nobel Prize in Physics for inventing this technology because if such a chip exists then that person DEFINITELY deserves a Nobel prize. Kam, the smallest chip currently possible is 2.5 nm across. It is a logic gate so it has no power source or anything to make it freestanding. You are claiming that we have built a chip that is self-powered and and is so small that you need an electron microscope to even see it! You are also claiming that these chips are being put into vaccines and that these chips are capable of sending out EMF waves. What you are claiming is NOT technologically possible using current technology. Not. Possible. In another quarter century, if everything goes right, we MIGHT be able to build a self-contained chip that is only a nanometer or so across but we cannot do so now.

What's more, any signal that is small enough to be broadcast by such a chip would be so energetic that the person with such a chip implanted would be in VERY big trouble VERY quickly. Because we are talking about wavelengths on the alpha-particle scale. Nothing in a frequency used for communications is strong enough to make it out of the human body broadcast from such a chip and anything strong enough to do so would cause such immediate tissue damage as to be obvious within minutes of being introduced to the human body. This is for reasons having to do with quantum effects that I'm not going to get into here because it's just TOO arcane and technical. Suffice to say that the major problem here is that the wavelength of the signal is larger than the transmitter of the signal by a couple of orders of magnitude. In order for this chip to do send-receive (and if it is a tracking chip it needs to be able to do bidirectional) the *inbound* waves would have to be smaller than a nanometer otherwise the object will be invisible to the wave (the object will sit in the trough of the wave). The only candidates are X-rays and gamma rays. To imagine how ludicrous Kam's suggestion is. Imagine putting two objects in a stream of running water. One is a pebble and one is a rock--large enough to take effort to lift but still liftable, if only briefly, by a single adult. The pebble is so small that the waves will pass over the rock without being disturbed unless the waves are VERY energetic (short wavelength). The calmer (longer wavelength) the wave the more invisible the pebble. The rock, on the other hand will disturb the water with both energetic and low-energy waves because it is larger. What Kam is saying is that radio waves or microwaves (which are what are typically used for communications) can be used to send-receive with these nanochips even though the nanochips are pebbles in a stream of very low-energy waves. This violates a *fundamental* principle of electromagnetism.

So what you are saying is that in vaccines there are devices, living in non-vacuum conditions, that send-receive on the X-ray or gamma wave part of the EMF spectrum and which are *undetectable* even though they are pumping out highly energetic photons that do things like cause tissue damage, etc. (The reason why we use X-rays to peer inside of your body is that they are energetic enough to get past the skin. The reason why we dont' use gamma rays for the same purpose is that gamma rays are SO energetic that they start to cause serious problems with DNA breaking immediately. Kam is saying that people are being implanted with devices that have no other option than to use rays in that energy range.)

This violates so many *different* areas of basic physics and chemistry that I don't even know how to capture them all in anything less than book length.

Folks, what Kam is suggesting vis a vis the chips in vaccines is impossible at current technology and some of what is being suggested is impossible with ANY level of technology. IMPOSSIBLE. Like violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics impossible. Perpetual motion machine impossible. Your broken glass spontaneously reassembling itself impossible. Your flat tire spontaneously reinflating impossible. Some of what Kam is suggesting is even less possible than THAT.

BornBronson 06-28-2010 05:57 PM

Drives for a living
 
I don't have much to say about this oil spill.I do know I will be paying 10 dollars a gallon at the pumps soon,we all will.But hey,life goes on.

Toughy 06-28-2010 06:54 PM

Aj

Maybe this 'mark of the beast/666/nanochip' stuff is derived from those microchips planted in dogs and cats that contain contact info and maybe some medical info melded with all that info on your drivers license.....shrug

Toughy 06-28-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BornBronson (Post 140510)
I don't have much to say about this oil spill.I do know I will be paying 10 dollars a gallon at the pumps soon,we all will.But hey,life goes on.

I wish gas would skyrocket to 10 bucks a gallon........maybe we would get a low to moderate priced, non to very little fossil fuel powered car within 5 years........

dreadgeek 06-28-2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 140533)
Aj

Maybe this 'mark of the beast/666/nanochip' stuff is derived from those microchips planted in dogs and cats that contain contact info and maybe some medical info melded with all that info on your drivers license.....shrug

J suggested as much the first time this came up on the Breaking News thread. If that's the case then Kam has the not-inconsiderable task of explaining how microchip can A) be hidden in a vaccine and B) be inserted using a needle when the chip is larger than the circumference of the needle. I hate needles T, there is no way that anyone would sneak bupkis past me in a needle. I hate needles so much that if someone came up to me and said "I have this drug, if you take it you will immediately achieve Buddha consciousness, let me just stick this needle in your arm." I would respond "sorry, you lost me at needle in your arm".

I am at a complete loss at how to even begin answering this stuff--in part because there's so damn much of it ranging all over hells' half-acre.

:seeingstars:

MsDemeanor 06-28-2010 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BornBronson (Post 140510)
I don't have much to say about this oil spill.I do know I will be paying 10 dollars a gallon at the pumps soon,we all will.But hey,life goes on.

I doubt this. If the spill were going to affect pump prices, it would have already. Funny, though, time after time the companies all raise prices because one of them has some negative event at a refinery. To me, this pretty much proves what a *cough bullshit cough* excuse that is, and gives me further reason to wonder why the only people in this entire country who don't see the lies and collusion are our elected representatives who investigate this stuff. I know exactly why, actually, it just frustrates me to no end.
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadgeek (Post 140553)
I am at a complete loss at how to even begin answering this stuff--in part because there's so damn much of it ranging all over hells' half-acre.

Why bother? It's like the tons of spam email that we all get, bogus crap that belongs in the computer trash bin.

dreadgeek 06-29-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 140654)
I doubt this. If the spill were going to affect pump prices, it would have already. Funny, though, time after time the companies all raise prices because one of them has some negative event at a refinery. To me, this pretty much proves what a *cough bullshit cough* excuse that is, and gives me further reason to wonder why the only people in this entire country who don't see the lies and collusion are our elected representatives who investigate this stuff. I know exactly why, actually, it just frustrates me to no end.

Why bother? It's like the tons of spam email that we all get, bogus crap that belongs in the computer trash bin.

Because you and I both know that the minute this stuff sits there without challenge it will gain credibility of the "well, it could be true and since no one has said anything to the contrary, maybe it is true. Oh my god, the chips that are being inserted into vaccines are causing autism!" We've seen it before. You're absolutely right these rantings are a species of spam but the only filtering we can do in this venue is to counter the bad information with good information that points out just how truly laughable these ideas are.

Cheers
Aj

MsDemeanor 06-29-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadgeek (Post 140837)
Because you and I both know that the minute this stuff sits there without challenge it will gain credibility of the "well, it could be true and since no one has said anything to the contrary, maybe it is true. Oh my god, the chips that are being inserted into vaccines are causing autism!" We've seen it before. You're absolutely right these rantings are a species of spam but the only filtering we can do in this venue is to counter the bad information with good information that points out just how truly laughable these ideas are.

Cheers
Aj

This is high on the list of reasons why I adore you so....

Andrew, Jr. 06-29-2010 10:15 AM


Is anyone here tracking Alex? I hope and pray that this oil slick is stopped sooner than later. It makes me sick to watch. I have to change the channel when it comes on. It is so upsetting to see the dead animals and oil on the beaches, and in the ocean.

Toughy 06-29-2010 05:56 PM

I am watching an interesting 2 hour documentary on History Channel (yeah yeah I know...) titled Crude. It's traces the history of oil from it's origins in the Jurassic Period until today. It's interesting.

It is a bit pro oil so far...........but it is the rich white man's History Channel.

AtLast 06-29-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadgeek (Post 140837)
Because you and I both know that the minute this stuff sits there without challenge it will gain credibility of the "well, it could be true and since no one has said anything to the contrary, maybe it is true. Oh my god, the chips that are being inserted into vaccines are causing autism!" We've seen it before. You're absolutely right these rantings are a species of spam but the only filtering we can do in this venue is to counter the bad information with good information that points out just how truly laughable these ideas are.

Cheers
Aj

Oh, yeah! What tales will be accepted as fact? What I am continually amazed with is that we have the internet now (I'm old)- it isn't like we have to go do lit reviews at a library.... And it isn't difficult at all to click past the immediate BS citations and go to the primary lioterature...

cinderella 06-29-2010 07:32 PM

My dearest Kam. You know I love you dear. But, as I've always said, if all the things you are predicting, or think will happen (and maybe they will), we cannot stop it. Do we launch a spaceship and go to another planet? Do we stay here, in our homeground and fight it out (if we can). It sounds like Armageddon indeed, in your view - maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. We, us humans, have had many times when we thought our time was/is running out. But somehow we've survived it. Only time will tell, dearest. It does nothing for you, personally, to carry on like this. Many will scoff and laugh. Please don't expose yourself to ridicule, because that is what you are doing, my sweet. We hear your words. If we choose to harken, or not, that is our choice. You have done the best you can, don't exhaust yourself any longer.

Toughy 06-29-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 141419)
My dearest Kam. You know I love you dear. But, as I've always said, if all the things you are predicting, or think will happen (and maybe they will), we cannot stop it. Do we launch a spaceship and go to another planet? Do we stay here, in our homeground and fight it out (if we can). It sounds like Armageddon indeed, in your view - maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. We, us humans, have had many times when we thought our time was/is running out. But somehow we've survived it. Only time will tell, dearest. It does nothing for you, personally, to carry on like this. Many will scoff and laugh. Please don't expose yourself to ridicule, because that is what you are doing, my sweet. We hear your words. If we choose to harken, or not, that is our choice. You have done the best you can, don't exhaust yourself any longer.

look Carmin............nobody gets to spout of stuff that is impossible........and not get called on it.

Besides, I asked some honest questions and get no answer.....I do like to try and find out if there is grain of fact in this stuff and where folks get these ideas.

Soon 06-30-2010 01:26 AM


Corkey 06-30-2010 01:39 PM

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...e-is-important

dreadgeek 06-30-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 141419)
My dearest Kam. You know I love you dear. But, as I've always said, if all the things you are predicting, or think will happen (and maybe they will), we cannot stop it. Do we launch a spaceship and go to another planet? Do we stay here, in our homeground and fight it out (if we can). It sounds like Armageddon indeed, in your view - maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. We, us humans, have had many times when we thought our time was/is running out. But somehow we've survived it. Only time will tell, dearest. It does nothing for you, personally, to carry on like this. Many will scoff and laugh. Please don't expose yourself to ridicule, because that is what you are doing, my sweet. We hear your words. If we choose to harken, or not, that is our choice. You have done the best you can, don't exhaust yourself any longer.

I'm curious--if someone was spreading false information, would you rather it continue to spread or would you prefer it be countered by facts? You're absolutely correct, the end has been predicted many, many, many, times before and every single time it has been wrong. That should tell us something. In the 19th century the Millerites thought the end was near--and it wasn't. In the early 20th century the Jehovah's Witnesses thought the end was near--and it wasn't. Throughout the 20th century this or that sect has predicted Armageddon or the return of Christ or the 'final alien invasion' and none of them have come to pass.

What I find most fascinating about this is that people will give any credence to the most wild-eyed fantasies of Armageddon or alien invasions but will scoff at real-world threats like climate change or an asteroid strike. Will there be an end to the world? Yes. Actually, there will. In about 5 billion years the Sun is going to start to die and expand out to about the orbit of Mars which, of course, will put Earth in the outer layers of the Sun. Good-bye Earth. That's 5 billion years from now, if we are still stuck on this planet without having flung our genes out to the stars we *deserve* extinction.

Before that happens, though, a big rock could hit the Earth and cause a really, really bad day for us. That happens periodically--we know that.

Chances are, folks who would accept an alien invasion would look at those scenarios as science fiction even though both of them are based in fact and one of them (the sun dying) is inevitable.

Cheers
Aj

Toughy 06-30-2010 03:17 PM

cinderella (carmin) is on a 6 week time-out so she will not be replying...........

AtLast 07-01-2010 01:33 PM


OK, I get the fear of oil rig employees in the Gulf. These are such difficult economic times. Yet, why are they not looking at the fact that 1000's are dealing with the economic ramifications there? I know it's hard to look past oneself when freaked-out, but, there is so much more in this big picture. And off-shore drilling must be investigated fully.

I find myself just internally accepting another oil rupture will happen. My soul is full of dread because I just don't see people understanding that as it stands today, we could be in peril with all of the oil rigs in the gulf as well as other areas in the US.. and the damn world!!

I absolutely do not trust what is under those rigs that have been operating with sub-standard safeguards for years now. Obviously, they have not been built or maintained safely! And this spill alone could prove to be something un-stoppable. What is wrong with people?

Shut the damn things down! No more permits for off-shore drilling! I know, naive statements. Not going to happen.


What will it take for people to get their heads out of their butts? Oh, money, that's right. How stupid of me. Now, if I honestly could believe that those who do have the scientific and technical knowledge with drilling off-shore and that the bucks were put into dealing with worst case scenarios, I might be able to see continued drilling like this. But, I just don’t see this happening. Simply do not. And what of the obvious lack of knowledge about the long term effects of what is in the Gulf right now?

Oh, that's right, it is the governments fault. And private mega-billion dollar corporations have the little people's interests at heart.... I forgot... private corporations will honestly pour $ into environmental safeguards to save themselves. Yeah, right!

What will it take to wake us up?

SuperFemme 07-01-2010 05:08 PM


Kast 07-01-2010 05:31 PM

Greetings, Kam is an angel, trust me - 'they' are making all the prophecies come true... the Hopi, the Bible, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce... EVERYTHING that is going on... is on this site. "They"... are allowing us to share this information. This time is promised, do not be afraid:

http://lymebusters.proboards.com/ind...d=14003&page=1

dreadgeek 07-01-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kam (Post 142852)
Greetings, Kam is an angel, trust me - 'they' are making all the prophecies come true... the Hopi, the Bible, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce... EVERYTHING that is going on... is on this site. "They"... are allowing us to share this information. This time is promised, do not be afraid:

http://lymebusters.proboards.com/ind...d=14003&page=1

Kam;

I'm curious--and I ask purely out of curiosity--are you actually going to engage with anyone here or are you just going to post links at us? If you're not, there's nothing we can do about that, but it would be nice to know if you are going to talk WITH us or just AT us using links.

So the Hopi and the Bible and Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce all prophesied the same things? Fascinating. I would never have guessed that the Hopi, with their very own cosmology would have identical prophecies to a group of pastoralists living 2000 years ago in the Levant. And who would have guessed that those two groups would have the same prophecies as a French con-artist (I mean fortune teller) and a late 19th/early 20th century flim-flam artist (sorry, I meant prophet).

You have suggested that something technologically impossible (at present) and in violation of a fundamental law of physics is happening on a daily basis. Or have you moved on from that 'prophecy' since it has been thoroughly debunked?

Cheers
Aj

dreadgeek 07-01-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 142833)

I could only get as far as 2:45 and couldn't take anymore.

Cheers
Aj

SuperFemme 07-01-2010 05:43 PM

you may have made it farther than i did, but i came back and watched again.
it makes no sense to me to be living in fear of the end times.
or to think that i am somehow not chosen because i am not looking for the horsemen and such.

i don't get the fear mongering. i really, really, don't.

Toughy 07-01-2010 09:46 PM

I made it 4 minutes...........and my head started to explode..........

Adele where in the hell do you find this stuff? You find the most head exploding little videos on any subject....

AtLast 07-01-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 142833)

UGH... and no, I couldn't watch the entire thing...

MsDemeanor 07-01-2010 10:40 PM

i can't even bring myself to hit "play"....

AtLast 07-01-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 143047)
i can't even bring myself to hit "play"....

Don't do it... you really don't want to!

Toughy 07-02-2010 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 143047)
i can't even bring myself to hit "play"....

awww come on..............just do it.........your head must need a little 'boom'...............


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