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Electrocell 10-03-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444609)
Let's pretend that Jack and I finally just won the Arkansas Powerball for $173 million. :)

After taxes, that's about $100 million left over.

Let's pretend that we're building a compound on about 400 acres just north of where we currently live. :)

Would you want to live on a BFP compound?
What skills can you contribute?
Would you want to do community meals every night in the "Mess Hall"?
Would people still need to pay something into the system like rent, even if it was only nominal?
Do you think you'd get tired of living with family all year long?
What pro's and con's can you see to this idea?
What input do you have?

Let's speak it into the Universe!

Well I grew up on a farm so have some knowledge about that. Also have an electrical/hvac background. Have done plumbing work as well as some carpentry, laid ceramic tile , tile and laminate floors. Don't care for dry walling tears my sinuses up but can do it. Have a Class A CDL so we could have our own truck for the community to haul and sell excess food.
Meals maybe on the weekends or special occassions. .Would rather buy the land so I owned it.Have my own place to get away. Could charge a fee like a gated community to pay for security.

Rockinonahigh 10-03-2012 10:14 PM

Not long ago I was surfing the web for places in general for sale,I found a 17 acer castle on the arkansaw river,its an island into it self.I thought,yeah..we could do that.Its only about $17 million bucks and some lose change.

Corkey 10-03-2012 10:19 PM

Background in Security and Law Enforcement. Desk job these days.

Electrocell 10-03-2012 10:35 PM

Oh yeah need somwhere in the community to go fishing too.

Corkey 10-03-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Electrocell (Post 667716)
Oh yeah need somwhere in the community to go fishing too.


Now see you're talking right up my alley and you and I can do some woodworking....

Electrocell 10-03-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkey (Post 667720)
Now see you're talking right up my alley and you and I can do some woodworking....

Yep use to work for a place that made cabinets for schools we could make them for the community as a hobby.

RockOn 10-03-2012 11:23 PM

I could build a great big bbq pit and grill some great meat for non-vegetarians on special occasions. Bet Corky would help me with all that cooking. Corky has exceptional cooking talents. That type atmosphere creates a terrific social. Ami and Corkey, you both must move to the compound area, please. I say area because I would like to buy about 5 acres up against compound land.I enjoy people but not all the time. I need a hidey-hole a little away from the main. Otherwise, I would get cranky. Also, can help others with woodworking, painting, caulking, landscaping - most anything . And my chainsaw will do well when we need to clear off some of the land.
When can be get started?
:)

Electrocell 10-03-2012 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 667736)
I could build a great big bbq pit and grill some great meat for non-vegetarians on special occasions. Bet Corky would help me with all that cooking. Corky has exceptional cooking talents. That type atmosphere creates a terrific social. Ami and Corkey, you both must move to the compound area, please. I say area because I would like to buy about 5 acres up against compound land.I enjoy people but not all the time. I need a hidey-hole a little away from the main. Otherwise, I would get cranky. Also, can help others with woodworking, painting, caulking, landscaping - most anything . And my chainsaw will do well when we need to clear off some of the land.
When can be get started?
:)

LOL sounds good to me will bring my chainsaw too. Now if we can find someone to bulldoze for us we'll be in good shape. Can understand I need my space too. You could buy enough inside also -wouldn't have to associate every day. Community house with a big ole fireplace in it would be nice too.

Corkey 10-03-2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 667736)
I could build a great big bbq pit and grill some great meat for non-vegetarians on special occasions. Bet Corky would help me with all that cooking. Corky has exceptional cooking talents. That type atmosphere creates a terrific social. Ami and Corkey, you both must move to the compound area, please. I say area because I would like to buy about 5 acres up against compound land.I enjoy people but not all the time. I need a hidey-hole a little away from the main. Otherwise, I would get cranky. Also, can help others with woodworking, painting, caulking, landscaping - most anything . And my chainsaw will do well when we need to clear off some of the land.
When can be get started?
:)

Flattery will get you food, but you knew this... LOL

Ashton 10-04-2012 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 444643)
Well if there were such a place I have many skills that can contribute to the up keep of the compound,Im good with animals,cand build barns and have extensive ablities in all phases of farm work,cook real good annnnnd I have a more that fair amount of medical expertise with both humans and animals.....sort of a jack of all trades hear.I would need a cottage for me and the fur kids,space for a pool table not to mention the bazillion books one alllll kinds of subjects I get every month in the mail,I promiss it will be worth it.

SOLD Rockinonahigh is the community librarian!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jett (Post 444656)
I'd go for it, I can build sound shelters and fix almost any vehicle... just mush on me in exchange and I'm all good ;)

MUSH MUSH MUSH...getting my mushing in early so I got a decient line of credit


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Originally Posted by guihong (Post 444740)
I could teach the kiddies :)

Teaching is necessary especially if we are a community with our own school then we can insure the safety of the children against the hatred ect, & more importantly think of the care and attention each child would receive. Although sending their children to public school should be an option as well

Quote:

Originally Posted by guihong (Post 444740)
What about relatives and friends, would they be allowed to visit on the premises?

I should think so I know I would like for my family/friends to feel free to come visit me. I'm very close to my family I would hate to not have them in my home.


Quote:

Originally Posted by guihong (Post 444740)
Communal living in a kind of utopia always sounds good on paper, but hasn't worked in reality. And maybe I shouldn't post, as I'm crabby ;).

If I'm understanding the concept right it would be more like a city/town in and of ourselves with our own government to run things. Then what you are referring to, I've always seen that sort of thing as a totalitarian type system, which why it doesn't work.

Don't think of it as being crabby think of it more in light of playing the devil's advocate!! :)



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Originally Posted by Just_G (Post 444749)
I would love to have a workshop where I can build things and keep my tools. I would be able to team up with some of the other handy folks from here and build things/fix things/ and remodel things. I could also use my new degree to design houses/cottages to suit the residents. (using the sustainable design that I have been studying)


Yes deffinately a workshop serve both for recreation & utilitarian needs. I love woodworking built several pieces. Did construction for a number of years...can you see me framing & sheet rocking!?!? Not so much anymore still do furniture refinishing and repair and building. Can make toys too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 444772)
Let's name the streets!

We have:

Zombie Street
Penpal Street

I'd like to see a "You are belong to me Way"

"Out Yonder St" I want to live on "Out Yonder St"

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Originally Posted by durrrrrrrr (Post 444784)
I suppose the street signs should be green with pink letters?

That'll work better then Pink with green letters

Quote:

Originally Posted by little_ms_sunshyne (Post 444828)
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!! WIN THE LOTTERY ALREADY!!!!

Hmmmmmm...What can I contribute.....

I can bake :) That may be the extent of the talents lol

How about you just tell me where we need help!

Uh your a teacher aren't you!?!? Sure gonna need those!

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Originally Posted by Daywalker (Post 444867)
I haven't read back,
I just know I want dibs on the Gardening.

:weedsmoke:

:daywalker:

How did we not know this!! hee hee luv ya Day!!

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 444948)
solor power everything, just saying

Wind too my friend
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nat (Post 445047)
I want to live in the yard-art-is-okay section :)

You can take the girl out of Austin but you can't take Austin out of the girl!!

Ashton 10-04-2012 01:09 AM

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pajama 10-04-2012 01:41 AM

I think this would be awesome. I used to visit friends that had a communal farm south of Memphis years ago. I loved the energy.

I agree with what many have said about boundaries, private space, setting up leadership.

What I can contribute to the community: I'm a mechanic. I can do plumbing. I can prepare all our taxes. I cook and bake. I can do healing work and massage and Reiki. I can paint and do framing/building with guidance.

I do not like to do yard work or gardening, so that would have to be someone else's gig.

So when are we moving?

Ginger 10-04-2012 05:00 AM

I'd love to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. I like being immersed in a world that isn't planned.

deb0670 10-04-2012 05:06 AM

I think this would be so fantabulous! i can cook, bake, crochet, um.. help with the garden, babysit, um.. i have been told i give good hugs... um.. ooo i can fish and i do not even mind baiting my own hook!.

cinnamongrrl 10-04-2012 05:09 AM

I'd be happy so long as we could raise alpacas....and go hiking a lot. I'm simple...

BstlMyhart 10-04-2012 06:15 AM

I've actually thought of this myself. The "compound" would be in the mountains of Ruidoso, NM though lol And everyone would have their own space...house/cottage...with 1 large building for gatherings. Figured a couple of hundred acres in the mountains would do the trick.

Electrocell 10-04-2012 09:40 AM

The amish and menonite make it work. We could even set up windmills or if near water use it for our power supply. Then there is solar.

Looks like we have mutiple talented people in the community. Oh well never hurts to dream never know when it might become a reality.

Rockinonahigh 10-04-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashton (Post 667749)
SOLD Rockinonahigh is the community librarian!!



MUSH MUSH MUSH...getting my mushing in early so I got a decient line of credit



Teaching is necessary especially if we are a community with our own school then we can insure the safety of the children against the hatred ect, & more importantly think of the care and attention each child would receive. Although sending their children to public school should be an option as well



I should think so I know I would like for my family/friends to feel free to come visit me. I'm very close to my family I would hate to not have them in my home.




If I'm understanding the concept right it would be more like a city/town in and of ourselves with our own government to run things. Then what you are referring to, I've always seen that sort of thing as a totalitarian type system, which why it doesn't work.

Don't think of it as being crabby think of it more in light of playing the devil's advocate!! :)





Yes deffinately a workshop serve both for recreation & utilitarian needs. I love woodworking built several pieces. Did construction for a number of years...can you see me framing & sheet rocking!?!? Not so much anymore still do furniture refinishing and repair and building. Can make toys too.


"Out Yonder St" I want to live on "Out Yonder St"



That'll work better then Pink with green letters



Uh your a teacher aren't you!?!? Sure gonna need those!


How did we not know this!! hee hee luv ya Day!!


Wind too my friend

You can take the girl out of Austin but you can't take Austin out of the girl!!

Thank You Ashton,the position suits me fine,I love checking out and keeping news and facts.

Rockinonahigh 10-04-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Electrocell (Post 667983)
The amish and menonite make it work. We could even set up windmills or if near water use it for our power supply. Then there is solar.

Looks like we have mutiple talented people in the community. Oh well never hurts to dream never know when it might become a reality.


Yes the reality of this is definatly a can do,I keep hopeing it will one day happen.

chefhmboyrd 10-04-2012 10:02 AM

Count us in!!!
 
Would you want to live on a BFP compound?
That would be awesome....
Ginger and I have talked about communal living. of course there would have to be "private" space for everyone, and some form of leadership but i think it should be very cool
What skills can you contribute?
I can cook, (executive chef experience, food inventory management, menus, sanitation certifications etc. nutrition) i can do yard work, i also have farm experience, especially with horses. (horse whisperer)i am also a skilled dog trainer. i can also sweep chimneys, do carpentry, drywall, masonry, etc...
oh and provide a little eye candy working up a sweat in my A-shirt... heh
Would you want to do community meals every night in the "Mess Hall"?
i think the mess hall would be the best way to do at least one big meal a day, have food available to all and folks could have their own kitchens as well.
Would people still need to pay something into the system like rent, even if it was only nominal? i think there should be a small fee like dues just to help with the upkeep as you would not want all that to come out of your pocket, but i think much of it could be traded out in work for the community: gardening, yard work, kp duty, carpentry and general maintenance.
Do you think you'd get tired of living with family all year long?
Never. we would be free to come and go as we please. it would be like a home base...
What pro's and con's can you see to this idea?
the only con that i can foresee is making sure that everyone has jobs, or some form of income in the area. True communal living requires a lot of work, cooperation, strong fair leadership and a buy-in from all.
BUT i think it could definitely work...
What input do you have?
i think i could definitely bring some ideas on the layout and how to design a kitchen/messhall/dining facility. i was a food service professional for many years. Apoc and I can rock some Food and Beverage events and shit.....

oh and i can definitely provide Entertainment...

Arwen 10-04-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 444862)
Blood Curdling Scream

"Hang on, there's something that just hit the deck, an armadillo or a bear"

"It's an armadillo"

"You know what? That armadillo does not belong to me"

--Medusa

:|

Yeah, let's all move to Arkansas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arwen (Post 444876)

In my sappy texting, I may have texted two girls I know pictures of an attack armadillo.

Some things still make me giggle hysterically.

Daywalker 10-05-2012 07:31 PM

It's wayyyy too hot there for me...and mah plants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BstlMyhart (Post 667853)
I've actually thought of this myself. The "compound" would be in the mountains of Ruidoso, NM though lol And everyone would have their own space...house/cottage...with 1 large building for gatherings. Figured a couple of hundred acres in the mountains would do the trick.

I do not think the NM would be Daywalker friendly.
:|

Mountains in the California, very DW Friendly.
:cannabis:

:daywalker:

Duchess 10-05-2012 08:11 PM

Count me in!!!!

I can sew, clean, hostess lingerie parties, work in garden and make awesome martinis. I will even create a signature BFP martini. :)


Duchess


Electrocell 10-06-2012 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daywalker (Post 669159)
I do not think the NM would be Daywalker friendly.
:|

Mountains in the California, very DW Friendly.
:cannabis:

:daywalker:

Sure you could just would have to grow them underground lol.

Syr 10-06-2012 06:41 AM

Sounds great. But not in the U.S. for me. I'll be staying right here 'til the end ;)

StrongButch 10-06-2012 07:03 AM

Compound
 
Looks at Duchess I have a compound right outside of Atlanta maybe you can practice here (lol) Come show me your skills (sew,clean,lingerie parties and martinis) and whatever else you wanna throw in. (lol)

*Anya* 10-06-2012 08:29 AM

Reading this thread prompted me to think about the reality of a large group of people of different ages living together. I first posted in this thread, October 2011 and must admit my thoughts are a little different, a year later (and a year older).

On the face of it, it is a wonderful idea and hopefully, not just a pipe dream.

We are a diverse group of people, of not only identities but culture, backgrounds, education, employment and physical abilities (not to mention personalities!)

Currently, we do have a lot of Planet folks with physical disabilities (and perhaps also emotional). To make a dream of communal living a reality, all of these issues would need to be considered.

Boomers never think we will age. I didn't. In my mind, I would always be 25. Somehow, that did not happen! I like what one of the articles below called it: the Peter Pan Syndrome!

Would we have levels of care to try to keep aging LGBTQ folks living independently as long as possible?

Would we ensure that all environments would accommodate those that use canes/wheelchairs and other adaptive devices?

We will continue to age, whether we want to or not or regardless if we like it or not!

Darn it!

Some facts on costs, which may be even higher than when the Healthsense white paper was written:

30 million seniors living independently in their homes: Cost effective

11,000 attending or receiving
Adult Day/Home Health Care: 20K per year

21,000 in Independent Living Facilities Facilities: 20K to 30K per year

2,240 in Continuing Care Retirement Communities (CCRC’s)
$32K/year

33,000 in Assisted Living facilities
30K per year

17,000 in Skilled Nursing/Memory Care Facilities
$74K/year

1. Seniors’ Desire: Live as independently as possible for as long as possible
2. Cost effective alternatives to expensive SNF’s

"According to a new survey from the Hartford and the MIT AgeLab, half of boomers plan to stay in their current home as they age; however most have not made a plan to make their home more usable as physical abilities change.

The Hartford survey revealed that as far as adults ages 46-65, are concerned, 77% have talked to their spouse or partner about future housing needs but only 29% have made a plan, and 96% of those surveyed were aware of changes they could make to their current home to make it more livable as they age, but only 26% have made such changes.

That suggests too many of us are living in what some experts have dubbed Peter Pan housing - homes designed for people who will never get old.

I’m the first to admit that baby boomers actually don’t think we will get old."

http://www.healthsense.com/phocadown...ate/hs_aip.pdf

http://www.purdue.edu/retirees/docs/SeniorLiving.pdf

http://www.retiredbrains.com/Home/Se...e/default.aspx

Duchess 10-06-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by StrongButch (Post 669398)
Looks at Duchess I have a compound right outside of Atlanta maybe you can practice here (lol) Come show me your skills (sew,clean,lingerie parties and martinis) and whatever else you wanna throw in. (lol)

Ummm, ok!!!:blush::spruceup::cheerleader:

girl_dee 10-06-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pajama (Post 667759)
I think this would be awesome. I used to visit friends that had a communal farm south of Memphis years ago. I loved the energy.

I agree with what many have said about boundaries, private space, setting up leadership.

What I can contribute to the community: I'm a mechanic. I can do plumbing. I can prepare all our taxes. I cook and bake. I can do healing work and massage and Reiki. I can paint and do framing/building with guidance.

I do not like to do yard work or gardening, so that would have to be someone else's gig.

So when are we moving?

pajama could i be your co-therapist? reflexology and reiki with a side of hypnotherapy all around.

i like the gardening as long as a lawn tractor is involved!


girl_dee 10-06-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syr (Post 669387)
Sounds great. But not in the U.S. for me. I'll be staying right here 'til the end ;)

Maybe everyone could come live HERE Syr!!! i bet you love that idea...

:innocent:

Syr 10-06-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajun_dee (Post 669586)
Maybe everyone could come live HERE Syr!!! i bet you love that idea...

:innocent:

Ummmmm...... Sure....would take a lil planning I think.

Sachita 10-06-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syr (Post 669622)
Ummmmm...... Sure....would take a lil planning I think.


when I sell the farm and semi-retire to write my book I'd like to come park my RV summers up by you guys but once that cold starts up I'm history! lol

Just make sure all the people that want to come also know they have to work at stewarding the land. Few people know whats really involved in taking care of rural property especially as you move closer towards sustainability. As you know its a day to day that has to be done no matter how sick or tired you are.

DanieClarke 10-07-2012 09:03 AM

Don't sell the farm LOL
 
Hey i use to live in a RV and it was hell. I am glad to have finally purchased my own little farm.

Anyway i have a small 6 acre farm surrounded by mostly large amish and mennonite farms in central Pa along the appalchia Mountains.

I am seeking someone who is rough and ready and able to live rustically.

That means i have chamber pots and outhouses and barns and no indoor plumbing except for a hand pump in the basement which pumps springwater yr round.

I think an older FTM might really enjoy sharing this place with me.. Oh yea i am in my late 50's and caregiving my 89 yr old mom here. They too should be older and respectful of the local amish and mennonites.

I happen to be a celibate and single for the last 14 yrs so i am hoping to find the same.

Oh i can't deal with a couple as that dynamic is too much for me and mom.

Right now we sleep in the livingroom as mom can't make it up the steps and the wood heater in the livingroom needs to be filled every few hours all winter long.

Oh i am a 14 yr post op MTF living mostly androgynously as most who don't know me think i am a FTM which suits me fine..

PS: No smokers or drugs or lazy people :)

Gemme 10-15-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajun_dee (Post 669586)
Maybe everyone could come live HERE Syr!!! i bet you love that idea...

:innocent:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syr (Post 669622)
Ummmmm...... Sure....would take a lil planning I think.

Oooooh! I can do stuff. I can help! I'm a pretty good cleaner and generic, follow a recipe kind of cook. I can braid hair and fur and manes for that pretty, out of the face (or butt) kind of look. I don't mind a little muck but not every day.

Ummmm....chickens! I can feed the chickens 'n stuff. Okay, fine. The rest of the animals too. But especially the chickies. It strengthens my rock skipping wrist.

No slaughtering though. My gramps had a small working farm when I was a munchkin and I saw them slaughter some of the animals and I just never looked at him the same way after that. :(

Angeltoes 10-15-2012 07:39 PM

What about my 2 little boys, though? They can pull weeds or pick blueberries. lol. They're pretty well behaved. I don't know what I can do on a compound because my skills are mostly office based. I did have a fabulous garden this year but I'm no expert. I think Gemme and I are pretty much in the same skill set. I'm willing to learn though. I can give manicures. Hello, femmes...you need manicures.

Gemme 10-15-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Angeltoes (Post 676355)
What about my 2 little boys, though? They can pull weeds or pick blueberries. lol. They're pretty well behaved. I don't know what I can do on a compound because my skills are mostly office based. I did have a fabulous garden this year but I'm no expert. I think Gemme and I are pretty much in the same skill set. I'm willing to learn though. I can give manicures. Hello, femme...you need manicures.

Well, they need people on the phone to order goodies, no? We can maintain the office. That's where a lot of my strengths lie as well. How about that?


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